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You think we can get this on the G1?
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Original Android <3ers! said:
You think we can get this on the G1?
http://bit.ly/cNzpfv
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simple answer: nope
RandumAccess said:
simple answer: nope
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Something ive learned with g1 dev, never say "nope", way to many times stuff which had been said impossible has been done.
But
1) OP do you know what you can over clock your g1 (not to 1 ghz though)
2) whats the full clock speed of the cpu 4 the moment?
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Something ive learned with g1 dev, never say "nope", way to many times stuff which had been said impossible has been done.
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1) OP do you know what you can over clock your g1 (not to 1 ghz though)
2) whats the full clock speed of the cpu 4 the moment?
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sorry but really? Are you being at all serious?
A processor clocked at 384mhz (g1) being overclocked to over a gig? What you gonna use to keep it cool? Liquid nitrogen?
true that... even at 576 mhz it gets way too hot while using wifi... besides, the phone just locks up when you go over 650 mhz or so. i have tried. i dont think it can handle it.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sorry but really? Are you being at all serious?
A processor clocked at 384mhz (g1) being overclocked to over a gig? What you gonna use to keep it cool? Liquid nitrogen?
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Reread what you quoted. He said you can't do that.
ummm... i have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet
bestofrhcp said:
ummm... I have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet
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this guy just treated all of your lives! I love you bestofrhcp!
The thing is the moment runs at 800 Mhz stock so 1006-800= 200 Mhz overclock, or a 25% overclock. Our G1's were built for 385, but I've gotten mine stable up to 729, so an 89% overclock. Granted, the CPU inside the G1 was designed for 528 but HTC underclocked it for battery purposes, so it's only a 38% overclock. The samsung moment has a really crappy samsung chip (pre-hummingbird), but it should be able to squeeze out a few more mhz. I don't have much hope for anything more than 729 on our phones, at least not without an overvolt kernel and some sort of liquid cooling system.
Processor Qualcomm® MSM7201A™, 528 MHz
I am really getting sick of all the overclocking nonsense.
There is MORE TO SPEED THAN CLOCK RATE!!!!
You can clock these CPUs as fast as you want, but the overall effect on performance will be measurably negligible. You may, at most, THINK that it is faster when in fact, it is NOT.
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I am really getting sick of all the overclocking nonsense.
There is MORE TO SPEED THAN CLOCK RATE!!!!
You can clock these CPUs as fast as you want, but the overall effect on performance will be measurably negligible. You may, at most, THINK that it is faster when in fact, it is NOT.
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Hehe It might be placebo but Raging Thunder 2 is MUCH more playable at 700 Mhz than at 528.
It is true that there is more to speed than clock rate, I'm not going to argue about that. A Core 2 due at 3.3 Ghz doesn't compare to a Core i3 at 2.2 Ghz, since the core i3 has more cores and is a more efficient platform. But a Core i3 at 1.6 Ghz in a netbook won't compare to a Core i3 at 2.4 Ghz in a desktop. Clock speed can make a big difference in performance. You can optimize all you want but using brute force helps out. Of course I only overclock when I want to play some 3D racing games and I'm close to a power source. I usually run it at 352 or 480.
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ummm... i have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet
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Can you cook bacon on it?
1ghz would probably fry the whole motherboard :| What we really need is some ram, which will be no problem when I upgrade.
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ummm... i have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet
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Why would you want to OC that much, I'm sure your battery last all of about 4 hours tops
I'm currently running phoenix ultimate w/Tagrak.
It's OC'ed at 1.3 GHz ATM.
It has made a seeming performance change to my phone. But i want to take it further and OC to 1.5 or even 1.6 if possible. After hours of researching, the CPU in the Cappy is capable of running at 1.6 at the fastest.
Does anyone know any APP that will allow you to OC higher than 1.3 GHz? and has OC'ed higher than 1.3?
Thanks a bunch
What kernel are you running? AFAIK the only kernel that supports 1500/1600mhz is Onix, which is the kernel I'm running. Best OC experience I've gotten on the captivate was 1344. I was using Phoenix with the Paragon 1344 kernel.
Once you get Onix, voltage control will let you OC to 1600, but you might not even be able to hit 1400 and stay on for more than 5 mins (my situation)
I'm pretty sure this should be in Q/A, no?
There is already a thread in this section (currently 4 posts down) about this topic.
I've been running a custom oc at 3200mhz stable for 3 days now.
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I've been running a custom oc at 3200mhz stable for 3 days now.
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3.2ghz?? On what your laptop???
studacris said:
3.2ghz?? On what your laptop???
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no reason the chip cant do that running @ 3volts with dry ice or liquid nitrogen cooling
superasian827 said:
I'm currently running phoenix ultimate w/Tagrak.
It's OC'ed at 1.3 GHz ATM.
It has made a seeming performance change to my phone. But i want to take it further and OC to 1.5 or even 1.6 if possible. After hours of researching, the CPU in the Cappy is capable of running at 1.6 at the fastest.
Does anyone know any APP that will allow you to OC higher than 1.3 GHz? and has OC'ed higher than 1.3?
Thanks a bunch
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the kernel needs to support the different timing modes used. onix will allow up to 1600. to my experience nearly all phones go up to 1200 a vast majority to 1280-1300 im barely stable @1300 myself. but 1344-1400 is the limit with only a few exceptions. every chip is different and i have a feeling the earlier phones had less consistant manufacturing. samsung may also be cherry picking chips that clock better for the galaxy s 2 mini which is supposed to be a hummingbird clocked up to 1400 out of the box.
keep in mind that 30% overclock is significant. if i tried that on my pc it wouldn't run very long.
I can get mine stable at 1.4 using Onix kernel and Serendipity rom. I tried 1.5 and 1.6 but was not able to get it to run.
I've come to the conclusion that OC achieves very little... UV even less.
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Dani897 said:
keep in mind that 30% overclock is significant. if i tried that on my pc it wouldn't run very long.
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My computer has just over a 35% overclock on the CPU...
I went from 2.8 GHz to 3.8 GHz.
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MikeyMike01 said:
My computer has just over a 35% overclock on the CPU...
I went from 2.8 GHz to 3.8 GHz.
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A ) im guessing not on the cheapo heatsink they sold you with the cpu unless it is one of those "black edition" something or other chips that are marketed towards overclockers
B) i dont see aftermarket heatsinks out there for cell phone processors
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B) i dont see aftermarket heatsinks out there for cell phone processors
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Just wondering. Is it at all possible to squeeze in an effective heat sink on the captivate? would be an interesting mod to have.
My Cappuccino can run at 1400 stable, but the extra 400 MHz didn't really make a difference.
CM7 Inspire 4G
hi all, i was just wondering, will OCing my captivate to 1.6 Ghz damage the CPU?
thanks!
stewi21 said:
hi all, i was just wondering, will OCing my captivate to 1.6 Ghz damage the CPU?
thanks!
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Couple of things for you:
First, I doubt your device will run stable at 1.6 GHz. Most Galaxy S-type devices won't run stable above 1.4 GHz, and while some do, only a very lucky few can run at 1.6 GHz.
Second, yes, you can damage your CPU doing that. Higher clock speed = more heat generated & more time at higher voltages. That means more chance of doing physical hardware damage to your device.
That being said... you are *probably* not likely to do harm to your device if you overclock to 1.6 (and it manages to be stable) and you aren't running benchmarks 24/7.
I think the real question for you, is why would you want to run your device that fast? If you want high benchmark scores to impress your friends, just cheat Quadrant, way easier, and less chance of causing problems. If your device is so unresponsive at it's current speed, then find a different ROM/software setup.
1.6 GHz should never really be necessary.
oh okay, it hasnt actually arrived yet, i was thinking it would help running games meant for dual core procs.
thanks for the reply!
stewi21 said:
oh okay, it hasnt actually arrived yet, i was thinking it would help running games meant for dual core procs.
thanks for the reply!
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Take a look at Chainfire3d with the Nvidia module.
Long story short, all of the current "dual core" phones are running Tegra2. But Tegra2 GPU <= Hummingbird GPU.
Problem is, games optimized for the Tegra will have a harder time running on our PowerVR. Not because of graphics horsepower, but because of specific optimization done by the programmers.
Chainfire's driver deal should help with that, in fact there is a thread floating around here somewhere with all the files you need.
PS Don't worry about those dual cores phones beating up on your little Captivate. Once you get it rooted, loaded up with a custom ROM and kernel, and running Gingerbread, I think you'll find none of the competition comes close...
I tried 1.6 ghz once and it was like insta-freeze. I'm very stable at 1.4 though.
Samsung Captivate running Paragon RC6 with 1.4ghz kernel.
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Is it possible to overclock the CPU to more than 1.5ghz? Most ROMs only go to 1.5.
I'm asking because the sensation xl has the same CPU but people are overclocking that to over 1.5 safely.
Virtuous Quattro ICS rom (and its kernel) goes to 1.9 safely
Is there a kernel that is compatible with sense 3.0 or 3.5 ROM?
i'm not sure, i dont use a sense rom
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Is there a kernel that is compatible with sense 3.0 or 3.5 ROM?
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Yes. Endymion/Hyperion kernels allow up to 1.5Ghz.
Unity9 allows up to 2ghz. Its mot recommended however, as the kernel is old, and 2ghz isnt safe
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Yes. Endymion/Hyperion kernels allow up to 1.5Ghz.
Unity9 allows up to 2ghz. Its mot recommended however, as the kernel is old, and 2ghz isnt safe
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Yeah but is there a sense kernel that allows higher than 1.5?
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Yeah but is there a sense kernel that allows higher than 1.5?
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Yes.. I just said Unity9...
It's not recommended. It's old and has bugs with the front camera.
In the first place, you shouldn't OC higher than 1.5ghz. The chip isn't designed to run a frequencies higher than 1.5ghz for ling periods of time. In the long run, you will damage to motherboard, fry the chip etc. Battery life will also be significantly shorter too.
If your intentions were to do that, i don't think you should have got this phone in the first place, and you should have just stuck with the Sensation.
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325i. said:
Is it possible to overclock the CPU to more than 1.5ghz? Most ROMs only go to 1.5.
I'm asking because the sensation xl has the same CPU but people are overclocking that to over 1.5 safely.
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the sensation xl is shipped at 1.5GHz. There's no need to exceed 1.2GHz in my opinion, at least not yet.
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the sensation xl is shipped at 1.5GHz. There's no need to exceed 1.2GHz in my opinion, at least not yet.
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The Sensation has a dual core 8260 Snapdragon CPU, our has 8255 (single core) so i think that 1.5 Ghz for the DS is more than enough and safe, also reading somewhere that the 8255 is designed to run at 1.4 Ghz as an optimal freq and that the mobile manufacturers are free to undercloock/overclock for specific needs
I personally use the 8255 at 1.1 Ghz...never had lags
Hey,
I limited all my kernels, Hyperion, Endymion and Reaper kernels to around 1.5GHz, as it is way more than enough. I did this for some reasons:
- As it has been discussed all over these forums, devices handle OC/UV differently, no matter if the cpu is the same. This has to do with sheer luck with what part you get from the factory, your phone is only guaranteed to work at up to 1GHz. It may seem stable at 1.5 but reboot once a week, some phones may not boot at 1.2, and some phones can chug along happily at 2GHz.
- Every newbie that lands on these forums will instantly set the frequency as high as they can. Then they will get a freeze now and then. Then they pull the battery. Then they kill the phone. THEN they check the forums and read that they should not have pulled the battery.
- With my current roms, where the kernels are tested, there is no need for overclocking. Things run very very smooth at stock values. But I believe in "power to the user", that's why I even give the option to OC. The last time I had to overclock my phone due to lag/choppiness was with Virtuous 2.39 or whatever, months ago.
So ask yourself why you want to go higher. Bragging rights? Quadrant scores to show your mates? Do you even notice a difference between, let's say, 1.2GHz and 1.5GHz? Is it really worth it?
Think about it.
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So much detail, couldn't have said it better myself In short, 1 Ghz is enough for most, 1.5 is more than enough. Anything above that is DANGEROUS and should be avoided.
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cpx07 said:
The Sensation has a dual core 8260 Snapdragon CPU, our has 8255 (single core) so i think that 1.5 Ghz for the DS is more than enough and safe, also reading somewhere that the 8255 is designed to run at 1.4 Ghz as an optimal freq and that the mobile manufacturers are free to undercloock/overclock for specific needs
I personally use the 8255 at 1.1 Ghz...never had lags
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Yeah, that's the regular Sensation.
We are taking about the XL which has a single core 1.5ghz CPU.
+1 agree with lowveld. I Never OC'ed for normal usage. I don't feel the need. You can't tell the difference in performance IMO
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I'm sorry if I missed the point, but is there anything overclocking that much is necessary for? I mean, I'm at 1,3 GHz max now but my phone runs at 1 GHz 60% of the time, rest of the time lower. I never reached something above 1 GHz.. ?
So why overclocking even more?
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My mistake, 60% of time it's at 245 mhz and only 30% of time at 1GHz.
But my question is still the same..
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Hi guys.
I wanted to ask you something, because in our sl i9003 is the maximum possible overclock 1300 mhz?
The Artex-A8 processor is not it?
It should be a very powerful processor, but even though I've always overclocchi various lag to 1.3, with any rom.
And my device has no flaws ..
So, back to the main question .. because the maximum overclock is only 1.3?
Now I'm using the rom with the look dell's3 and formatted EXT4 but is slow and full of lag .. Help!
Thanks.
I'm wrong or sI9000 can be overclocked more with the same cpu?
davibs said:
Hi guys.
I wanted to ask you something, because in our sl i9003 is the maximum possible overclock 1300 mhz?
The Artex-A8 processor is not it?
It should be a very powerful processor, but even though I've always overclocchi various lag to 1.3, with any rom.
And my device has no flaws ..
So, back to the main question .. because the maximum overclock is only 1.3?
Now I'm using the rom with the look dell's3 and formatted EXT4 but is slow and full of lag .. Help!
Thanks.
I'm wrong or sI9000 can be overclocked more with the same cpu?
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are u confused in between i9000 or i9003 phone?
Max overclock i9000 - 1.6ghz (i think)
Max overclock i9003 - 1.38ghz
vishal24387 said:
are u confused in between i9000 or i9003 phone?
Max overclock i9000 - 1.6ghz (i think)
Max overclock i9003 - 1.38ghz
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No , he would be know why for our phone the max overclock is 1.38 ghz.. I would it know to..
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Our Max is 1.45(I think can't rmb). Each chip has different oc capabilities, my g3 could oc from 667mhz to 1.4ghz with no problems .
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Could so anyone develop a kernel with 1.45 ghz ??
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Could so anyone develop a kernel with 1.45 ghz ??
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As I said I don't rmb clearly, but its in 1.4-1.45 ghz
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Well, you can easly push your phone at 1500MHz (BCK kernel feature: Evolved sysfs interface for variable overclock or underclock), but the phone is not usable. I tried once to slowly change the frequency to see my limit and @1400MHz the phone became unusable.
Other than being unstable because, quoting XDA_Bam, "Anything more than 10% higher than the highest stock frequency is likely to be unstable", I think the voltage set for the 5th OPP is too low for anything higher than 1300MHz (maybe I'm wrong).
Proof? here.
Actually, this is "fake". To take this screenshot I had first disabled the 5th OPP, then I changed its frequency so that CPU Spy showed 1500MHz even though I wasn't really using it. The time spent at that frequency was actually the time the CPU spent at 1200MHz before I had disabled the 5th OPP
I did that to show you that it's actually possible to (easly) change the max frequency to anything higher 1380MHz.
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And BTW devs are continuosly improving this device, we were first limited to 1100MHz, now some phones are stable at 1300MHz. Remember that our cousing (I9000) is older and has a huge community.
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"I'm wrong or sI9000 can be overclocked more with the same cpu?" => "I'm wrong or sI9000 can be overclocked more with a totally different cpu?"
vishal24387 said:
are u confused in between i9000 or i9003 phone?
Max overclock i9000 - 1.6ghz (i think)
Max overclock i9003 - 1.38ghz
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EDIT: -Looks like i am wrong too?
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I'm wrong or sI9000 can be overclocked more with the same cpu?
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You are wrong: the CPUs are different
i9003 has TI OMAP 3630 1GHz and i9000 has Samsung S5PC110 1GHz (code-named "Hummingbird")
Cortex A8 is just instructions and specifications for CPU. It's like DX10 for GPU. You can say Nvidia XXX card supports DX10 and AMD YYY supports it, why clocks for these cards and overclock potential are different?
I think the cpu of the i9000 is wors then the from i9003 so why is the i9000 overclocked to 50% and in our is it only 35%?
Cuold we not work on an overclock like 1.45 ghz for our phone ? Would it be unstable or is it because we need developers that can make it stable?
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I think the cpu of the i9000 is wors then the from i9003 so why is the i9000 overclocked to 50% and in our is it only 35%?
Cuold we not work on an overclock like 1.45 ghz for our phone ? Would it be unstable or is it because we need developers that can make it stable?
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But can anybody tell me that whats the use of such higher OC (1.45ghz) when u can do same stuffs smoothly on 1.2 ghz easily??? Also OC looks very attractive feature but in my opinioin its a deadly battery killer feature. OC upto 1.35 ghz is more than sufficient (I am satisfied with 1ghz max with superb performance & good battery backup).
Instead of wasting time on overclocking developers should work on overclocking gpu, kernel 3.0 or video codec, video recording in cm7, cm9, miui, aosp roms. Because for now thats a big problem for our phone.
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But can anybody tell me that whats the use of such higher OC (1.45ghz) when u can do same stuffs smoothly on 1.2 ghz easily??? Also OC looks very attractive feature but in my opinioin its a deadly battery killer feature. OC upto 1.35 ghz is more than sufficient (I am satisfied with 1ghz max with superb performance & good battery backup).
Instead of wasting time on overclocking developers should work on overclocking gpu, kernel 3.0 or video codec, video recording in cm7, cm9, miui, aosp roms. Because for now thats a big problem for our phone.
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I am with you, we reached the limits of "smoothness" really (On stable roms, we shouldn't blame hardware when using buggy or incompletete roms or even stupid samsung roms.)
It would be better if devs focus on the GPU.
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I think the cpu of the i9000 is wors then the from i9003 so why is the i9000 overclocked to 50% and in our is it only 35%?
Could we not work on an overclock like 1.45 ghz for our phone ? Would it be unstable or is it because we need developers that can make it stable?
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Remember when OCing just happened on our device? we were limited to 1080 Ghz, then to 1100 Ghz, then to 1200 Ghz/1300 Ghz, and now 1380 Ghz, devs will always figure out a way to squeeze more power and keep it stable, it needs time and effort.
The Galaxy S has a different CPU (That has lower OC potential then ours theoretically if i remember correctly) but has a bigger number of developers, it was released in 2010, our device was released in 2011 so it is kinda new.
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But can anybody tell me that whats the use of such higher OC (1.45ghz) when u can do same stuffs smoothly on 1.2 ghz easily??? Also OC looks very attractive feature but in my opinioin its a deadly battery killer feature. OC upto 1.35 ghz is more than sufficient (I am satisfied with 1ghz max with superb performance & good battery backup).
Instead of wasting time on overclocking developers should work on overclocking gpu, kernel 3.0 or video codec, video recording in cm7, cm9, miui, aosp roms. Because for now thats a big problem for our phone.
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Yes of cours but some developers can't fix this bugs.. But maybe they are able to overclock the phone (like uc team) and i think it's not a battery killer.. If i have battery problems i buy for 10 € a new battery.. Some games and if i have 2 apps open the phon is luggy.. Maybe with an haiey overclock it will be smoother
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Remember guys, even if you OC the CPU, there will always be the weight of our outdated GPU dragging us down. Even if we OC to 1.45Ghz, you will always experience little bits of lag due to our PowerVR530. If I compare my friend's stock I9000 (No Mods, No Root, No OC:1Ghz) to my I9003 (with OC 1.38Ghz). My friend's I9000 will always be smoother due to both an advanced CPU and GPU.
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Remember guys, even if you OC the CPU, there will always be the weight of our outdated GPU dragging us down. Even if we OC to 1.45Ghz, you will always experience little bits of lag due to our PowerVR530. If I compare my friend's stock I9000 (No Mods, No Root, No OC:1Ghz) to my I9003 (with OC 1.38Ghz). My friend's I9000 will always be smoother due to both an advanced CPU and GPU.
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Only their GPU is superior..
If someone could OC the gpu, we can probably reach their performance.
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Only their GPU is superior..
If someone could OC the gpu, we can probably reach their performance.
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The uc team has tried but it seems the gpu frequency is locked
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bscraze said:
The uc team has tried but it seems the gpu frequency is locked
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Nope
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451218&highlight=gpu+overclock
V9:
-Performace gpu and test overclocking to 300Mhz.
-Apply patch swa sources.(Many thanks to xda_bam)
-fix some small fix codes.
-Add vurrutCWM with many addons
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Nope
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451218&highlight=gpu+overclock
V9:
-Performace gpu and test overclocking to 300Mhz.
-Apply patch swa sources.(Many thanks to xda_bam)
-fix some small fix codes.
-Add vurrutCWM with many addons
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Yes as they said they're testing, they themselves said there is no way they can confirm its working
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Yes as they said they're testing, they themselves said there is no way they can confirm its working
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But in the next version 9.1 they stated that they lowered the OC, (Still OCed) and this is the latest working version.
V9.1:
-Fix problems in recovery.
-Reduce overclock gpu to 220Mhz.
-Voltage ajustement.