So I've acquired an HTC Sensation and have unlocked, rooted, and installed a few ROMs so far. Stock, CM7.1, and Android Revolution HD. That last one is the one I'm on.
My battery life sucks. Whereas my Blackberry Bold 9700 would go one to two days with constant, heavy usage, this phone gets about 4 to 6 hours. My battery graph says that Display is using 80% to 90% of my battery. I've turned off auto-adjust and set the brightness to minimum, it hasn't helped. Am I ****ed?
I've tried other things, underclocked to 1Ghz, different ROMs, battery calibration, no HTC Sense account, no friendstream, disabled background data and autosync. I've tried everything, and yet the display is totally destroying my battery. Keep in mind too, I mentioned the Blackberry, but I've had Android experience before. I'm not a total noob, and I'm not a pro.
EDIT: If you've got semi-****ty battery, check my last post on page 2. It might help ya out. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19062683&postcount=20
That's an LCD screen for you. It will always be the biggest power consumer of this phone. I believe that in general, the screen will always be the biggest power consumer of a phone, but LCD is especially bad. It doesn't help that the Sensation has an average-sized battery either.
That said, I can't believe your battery life is that bad, considering you've underclocked, tried different ROMs, calibrated the battery (although I've heard that this can actually decrease batt life), and disabled background data. Make sure you have matching radio + ril in case you haven't yet. I just can't believe that if you're doing all those battery saving tricks at the same time that your batt life would still be bad. Or did you try those things by themselves? You should try several things at once, but I'm assuming you already have.
LCD screen tech really needs to hit the grave. I like qHD resolution, but otherwise I hate the Sensation's screen. I don't get why so many Sensation owners think it's a good screen. LCD is absolutely worthless outside - I turn brightness all the way up and I can still hardly see it. I don't care if SAMOLED has oversaturated colors - as long as it's usable in any conditions I think it's better. Not only is SAMOLED much brighter and usable, it is much more power efficient than LCD. Honestly the screen alone of the Galaxy Nexus is making me consider it just because I hate the Sensation's screen that much (as well as other things about this phone).
I'm doing them all at once. I flashed the radio that mike (author of the ROM I'm using) suggested because he said the RIL file(s) are built in.
I'll post a battery stats screen cap when I can, but I don't have the means to do so right now.
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Edit: There it is. Normally, I don't partial charge, but I had to take it off briefly a few minutes ago. As you can see, it was hitting critical levels around 5 hours in before I threw it back on the charger. The line drops steadily usually when the display is being used.
Here's the shot that claims Display is the culprit.
I feel like android never goes into detail as to how much being on 4G drains your batteries. If you switch to EDGE (2G) only, you could see an improvement in battery life. You can get to it from Settings>Wireless Networks>Mobile Data.
If that doesn't work out for you, consider trying out Juice Defender on the market, it's helped me extend my battery life a considerable amount. It does nothing while you're using your phone, but when your screen is off, it'll disable mobile data, and every 15 min (or 30, you could change this in settings), the phone will enable mobile data for a minute so Facebook/Twitter/Messenging Apps can sync.
Aside from that, you can try turning down the brightness levels.
If you're willing to shell out a little cash, your next option would be to cop an Anker battery from eBay or Amazon. This would help the most, imo.
I have tried many things but so far the biggest thing to affect my battery life is disabling bluetooth. That alone takes about 2% per hour of battery life even if I never use it. My usage is light with some games, mail, and texting. Included is a snapshot of today's random usage. I don't know why but my display isn't listed in the snapshot.
One thing I would check is the spare parts app that hopefully is included in android. Look at the battery history->other usage->since last unplugged. Specifically the percentage of running. Mines says running is 12%, screen on is 4%, wifi on is 83%. If your phone is 100% running, then it is never going to sleep.
Is the Sensation a 4G device? if so, which carrier?
Not real 4G, max speed 14.4 mbps where available for TMOUS.
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mattbutsko said:
So I've acquired an HTC Sensation and have unlocked, rooted, and installed a few ROMs so far. Stock, CM7.1, and Android Revolution HD. That last one is the one I'm on.
My battery life sucks. Whereas my Blackberry Bold 9700 would go one to two days with constant, heavy usage, this phone gets about 4 to 6 hours. My battery graph says that Display is using 80% to 90% of my battery. I've turned off auto-adjust and set the brightness to minimum, it hasn't helped. Am I ****ed?
I've tried other things, underclocked to 1Ghz, different ROMs, battery calibration, no HTC Sense account, no friendstream, disabled background data and autosync. I've tried everything, and yet the display is totally destroying my battery. Keep in mind too, I mentioned the Blackberry, but I've had Android experience before. I'm not a total noob, and I'm not a pro.
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Ur comparing the sensation to a bb 9700? 9700 is not dual core or a 4.3 inch screen. Androids typically have the worst battery life when compared to iPhones and blackberrys. Also HTC phones usually have the worst battery life out of all the android phones.
How long have u had ur phone? Have u gone through at least 5 charging cycles? Did u calibrate ur battery after flashing new roms?
The other day I got this...maybe it makes you feel better...(1900mAh Anker Battery)
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@secano,
What game where you playing? I have played some that will kill my anker battery in 3.5 hours but never in just over 2!
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@secano,
What game where you playing? I have played some that will kill my anker battery in 3.5 hours but never in just over 2!
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I was using Skype with full brightness.
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I have the same problem, more or less.
I had a great improvement installing "juice defender", this app cutting off the 3g as soon as the screen is off, putting it on once every hour to chek mail etc.
try it.
it's an improvement, but my battery drain remain awful. I had a HTC HD2, and was used to 4-6 ma, now, if it's under 80, i'm happy...
Turn the brightness down. I only use auto brightness in the daylight. I used a app called dimmer to turn the brightness down to 10. The minimum setting the phone will allow is 30 so dimmer turns it down more. The dimmer app is nice it switches brightness down to 10 and the next click sets it back, so I have it switch between auto and 10. Full brightness will kill your battery fast.
ak29 said:
Ur comparing the sensation to a bb 9700? 9700 is not dual core or a 4.3 inch screen. Androids typically have the worst battery life when compared to iPhones and blackberrys. Also HTC phones usually have the worst battery life out of all the android phones.
How long have u had ur phone? Have u gone through at least 5 charging cycles? Did u calibrate ur battery after flashing new roms?
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I never directly compared them, I'm just sharing my past experiences. I never expected the sensation to come even close in battery life.
anyhow, ill try juice defender and my Bluetooth and brightness are off and set to low. it just sucks cause I seem to only lose a lot when the screen is on, but I don't want to blame S-LCD because this seems to only affect a small percentage of users.
worst case scenario, ill buy a new battery. thanks everyone for taking a look, please excuse the grammar, on my sensation right now
@OP... don't worry about battery life. I am in the same scene as you are...
Running an HD game would drain by battery in 2 to 3 hrs with lowest brightness and everything off.. My only problem is low network signal...
if you start using your mobile as laptop like playing games etc then you get as much time as a laptop gives u... But if you use it as a phone, out will do all say..
So either change device or line with it..
In Android Revolution the kernel spends the battery. You can flash the bricked kernel and you will see the battery life in normal use under 20 hours. You can find it under android development for sensation here in xda. I flashed yesterday and with wifi on and all sync on I have 45%. 12 hours from the last charge.
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In Android Revolution the kernel spends the battery. You can flash the bricked kernel and you will see the battery life in normal use under 20 hours. You can find it under android development for sensation here in xda. I flashed yesterday and with wifi on and all sync on I have 45%. 12 hours from the last charge.
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I will most definitely try this when I return from work. I may have to flash cyanogenmod, which seems to give me slightly better life. is the stock AR HD kernel really that bad?
edit: okay I went ahead and flashed the bricked kernel while at work. hope it helps, but I lost 10% battery to do it and I'm down to 20% left. we'll see how it does.
From what I read we have a new faux kernel. You can check it after bricked.
Hey guys. Small update.
I am recalibrating the battery, again, yet something special is happening this time. I ran the phone down and it played a 1080p video on max brightness with wifi, bluetooth, gps, background data all on. It played the video for 15 to 20 minutes while sitting at 0%! Now, I'm currently recharging it and best part, it's been at 100% and still charging, orange LED and all, for about 40 minutes now. Considering my charger charges at .75A an hour, thats something like .50ish A, or 500mAH that I didn't have before. That could explain my pathetic battery life. Imagine if it charges at 100% for an hour! That's 750 mAH that I lost due to bad calibration, half my battery!
Hopefully with a few more cycles, and some good luck, my battery meter will correct itself and I'll see regular battery life!
edit: Two hours In, I'm overclocked to 1.5ghz, have max brightness, wifi, GPS, Bluetooth all on. background data and auto sync enabled. the screen has been on almost the entire time. current battery? 40%! that's with constant interaction, at times, I was playing games and listening to music at the same time. I mean Im using this phone to the max and its performing incredibly.
in real life, I will underclock to 1 or 1.2ghz (still an underclock since the system is clocked at 1.5ghz default) and wont have the screen on the entire time, so I shouldn't have a hard time making it through a day with moderate to heavy use I also never really use BT and wifi is a rarity. background data will likely stay enabled, but we'll see.
please excuse grammar, on the sensation right now and I just gave up the BB 9700 keyboard just two days ago, one of the only good things about that phone!
edit2: okay so I ran down the phone. it shut down just minutes before the 3 hour mark. this is very exciting because my battery barely decreases while the screen is off. on Max brightness and wifi/GPS/Bluetooth/4G on, and the screen on for all but about 10 minutes, I got about 3 hours. this is exceptional. ill do a real world test tomorrow and report back, but things are looking up. currently, brightness is set to auto, wifi is off, GPS and Bluetooth are off, processor is clocked at 1.2ghz. very excited that this one calibration actually did something!
also, I consider HSPA+ to be 4G cause its about 10 times faster than any 3G out there and it's actually been official for a while.
www.phonearena.com/news/ITU-says-LTE-WiMax-and-HSPA--are-now-officially-4G_id15435
Edit3: It helped, but I'll be buying a Chichitech battery, ordering it tomorrow. 1900mAh better make a difference.
So its been a few days, but here's what I did to get acceptable battery - all at once:
Flash a Cyanogenmod rom, HyperSensation, the other one, Selfkang or whatever is a MAJOR battery destroyer for me. Any kernel, any clock speed, I'd lose 5 to 10% an hour just idling. I lost 15% alone playing 4 mp3s through my AUX cable. Not saying it's like this for everyone, but it was for me.
Flashed Faux's kernel, Joe's RCU from his thread.
Underclocked to 1.08Ghz while the screen is on, 540Mhz while the screen is off.
Undervolted the processor using FauxClock to -37.5mV, might go even lower if it's stable.
Ordered a 1900mAh ChiChiTech battery from Amazon, http://www.amazon.com/CHICHITEC-T-mobile-Sensation-Cellphone-Battery/dp/B0057US9YW - whether or not it's 1900mAh doesn't really apply, but what does is that I instantly got 20% more and I'm not even done conditioning. It's only 23 bucks, two for thirty. I was so anxious to try to get a battery that I next-dayed it for 17 bucks.
I'm a moderate to heavy user, I used some wifi hotspot today, automatic brightness for the display, background data and auto-sync, listening to standup comedy mp3s for 1.5 to 5 hours a day, web for probably 30 minutes to an hour a day, and today specifically, 45 minutes of Legends of Yore (fun rogue-like!) and 15 minutes of Age of Zombies.
Only two thirds of my battery used and I've been off the charger for 13 hours. My old battery would have given out about 6 hours ago, and that's if I cut my activity in half.
Anyhow, problem's solved, but I figured it'd be a good read for anyone in a similar boat.
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I see people saying rooting added 24 hours to their battery life. With root and CPU tuner i get around 12 hours of battery life no matter what. I woke up and idle/ standby used around 30 percent of my battery. Is that normal?
Usually my display tops the battery list but it drains quicker than I'd expect it to since i run 11% brightness. I run conservative governor and 245-1000mhz with 60 up 33 down. I have a weather widget, 2 battery widgets, and a ram widget.
Can anyone recommend me anything or give me tips top find out why this is happening? I'm running iced glacier 1.1.4 and gr8s 2.3 kernel.
I'm down to 80% in a little over an hour with display at 75% and nothing else over 10%. I do have a screen off profile too which makers me wonder how I lose that much overnight. I have the weather channel widget but its not on the battery screen so I doubt that is the problem or could it be?
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I never get more then 14 hours no matter what I do.
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Ugh just got 8 hours battery time on a day of moderate use. This is horrible. I'm gonna need a new battery in under a year I'm charging it ever damn day. I check the processor speed a lot too it's usually on ~360 mHz which is extreme underclocking. How is the new Cyno Alpha ROM for battery life? I might have to try that / new kernel and see if that helps anything. This is annoying beyond belief.
xFate said:
Ugh just got 8 hours battery time on a day of moderate use. This is horrible. I'm gonna need a new battery in under a year I'm charging it ever damn day. I check the processor speed a lot too it's usually on ~360 mHz which is extreme underclocking. How is the new Cyno Alpha ROM for battery life? I might have to try that / new kernel and see if that helps anything. This is annoying beyond belief.
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Only real things you can do are:
Check widgets and apps for update times and make them update less frequently
Turn brightness down
Use 'conservative' setting on set cpu and setup screen off profile.
Maybe some other people have good ideas. 8 hours seems low.
I dont think thats even close to normal, I have mine set at 1.7ghz and used it here and there through out the day and was trying to run the battery down as I had just bought it that week, it took me into the next day before I recharged it...
Me neither. I have everything that jj had mentioned done and still get between 8-12 hours. I have to charge it like twice a day on some days even running on 350 mhz. I'm about to call tmobile and ask for a new battery.
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I had major battery life issues, I don't think the phone was sleeping properly (it would always randomly turn the screen on, among other weird things).
as soon as I switched to CM7 my problems ceased and I'm getting through an entire day of good use without charging
Battery life for me is very solid.... yesterday took phone fully charge off the charger around 6am, moderate to heavy use throughout the day, mainly emails & web browsing. Came home around 8pm and had about 45% left of battery.
Charged it till full last night before I went to bed, pulled it off the charger around 11 I think. Woke up this morning and it still at 100%, received a few messages & emails. Running CM7
It does sound like either some people have crazy background data they aren't aware of (or wake-lock issues) or there are some bad batteries.
I did a test yesterday to find out how well the battery would hold up as I see a lot of complaints regarding battery life.
I am running a stock rom that I rooted and removed the crap I didn't want / use (including the News and Stocks app). I do have setCPU scaling down the CPU when the screen is off, that's really it though. Scaling is ondemand.
I run 3 push email accounts (1x Exchange and 2x Gmail) and weather updates every 3 hours.
I took it off of the charger when I went to bed the previous night at 11 pm. It was off of the charger for 20 hours. I spent about 13 of the 20 hours on wifi, the rest on 3G. It had moderate use (web browsing, XDA, some photos and videos of the kids, about 25 text messages).
At the end of the 20 hours I had a 35% charge still.
For the people only getting 8 hrs out of the battery I am curious how the use/background data differs.
I don't have any email linked besides gmail. I never use wifi or blue tooth. A normal day consists of mobile network only on low processor speeds with 11% brightness. I do haves screen off profile too.
I'll check facebook/twitter here and there (both have background update turned off). I text more than anything, browse the web a bit, and use the xda app a bit. The only thing i can think of is the battery monitor widget monitoring my but before that the battery life was bad too.
I literally have most things turned off and what I have on is at its minimum. I do have transition animations on but I doubt that would kill a battery that fast. There's never apps or widgets above like 2% on the battery usage screen. It's always display above 70% then idle/standby and android OS. I do think it is a battery problem cause I have low brightness but it still leads my usage by a lot.
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Hmm, that's weird - I do think 8 hours is pretty low. I'm a typically light-moderate user: few phone calls, text messages, google chatting, light browsing, some gaming. And usually what amounts to about an hour a day of just playing with my phone without actually doing anything . My routine is generally to charge it overnight while I sleep. I take it off the charger around 8am, and it easily lasts until bed later that night. On the days when I've used it on the heavy side, it gets down to 10% or less by bedtime, but still - always makes it well past 8 hours! Plus, I keep it on automatic brightness. BTW, I'm running stock (no need to root it IMO).
For you to be getting 8 hours with the settings you describe doesn't seem right. Might want to contact TMO about getting a replacement battery or something.
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I don't have any email linked besides gmail. I never use wifi or blue tooth. A normal day consists of mobile network only on low processor speeds with 11% brightness. I do haves screen off profile too.
I'll check facebook/twitter here and there (both have background update turned off). I text more than anything, browse the web a bit, and use the xda app a bit. The only thing i can think of is the battery monitor widget monitoring my but before that the battery life was bad too.
I literally have most things turned off and what I have on is at its minimum. I do have transition animations on but I doubt that would kill a battery that fast. There's never apps or widgets above like 2% on the battery usage screen. It's always display above 70% then idle/standby and android OS. I do think it is a battery problem cause I have low brightness but it still leads my usage by a lot.
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If you look at Spare Parts is there anything with a lot of partial wake usage?
Any more suggestions before I call them up?
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I'm terribly disappointed in this phone's battery! If HTC comes out with a phone that has all these features, it should be able to handle the the power needed! I read all these threads ... turn down screen, turn of this and that. So basically to make the phone ... usable you have to turn everything down and off. Just pisses me off. If i can have sync on for 24 hours something is wrong. if i can't have my gps on and listen to the radio for maybe 20 minutes a day, watch tv for half our, check my email send text without carrying an extension cord ... then htc should have just mentioned that. Instead they give you a battery llife that isn't accurate. I'm just so pissed! it's like me telling you that your new bmw sports car is pretty fast but you have to change the tires, don't listen to the radio and keep your lights off or you'll need to recharge battery and gas every hour.
Anyhow ... i get 11 hours on my battery. I have ADW launcher and fancy widget. I have my tmobile and facebook contacts sync'd. I don't check face book more than twice a day so I don't have the refresh on. The weather is every 6 hours i think. 11 Hours 50 minutes is the longest my phone survived with 11% screen brightness wifi / blue tooth / gps / etc off. I do have vibrate and sound off. I haven't made any phone calls on it yet. I send and received about 25 text. 5-10 min web page surfing. I would probably go mad if i had to make a call. I would definitely go mad if i used this phone normally.
I noticed my weather widget in sense and fancy widget was running when checking running tab in applications. Since sense runs in the background, does this mean i'm using battery running it or is it disabled? What else could I turn off in sense when using a different launcher?
Before rooted I got around 12-13 hours of moderate use, so I think your battery is not functioning well. You may call T-Mo for a replacement. Anyway, after rooted and flashed Iced Glacier (Stock launcher, bloatware removed), I always get 18 hours or more. You may wanna try.
I am running 9hrs moderate use on none rooted using wifi calling on all day in my home. Battery is 85%
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with 7% battery left
I got a replacement battery from t mobile.my phone is stock with adw.I'm in the red now. 1d6hours with 30 text, watching 30 min video, surfing web for 2 hours,fb 15 min., 3 6 min calls. Some other stuff.can't remember. Battery is definitely better. If I use gps for 45 min my battery drops like mad.i only hit 15 hours.
good battery life
i'm at 88% battery and it's showing 19 hrs and 46min, granted it was a lot of idle, but i'm pretty happy with this phone. and i'm only rooted, stock rom, no bloat (my account is the devil!) not underclocked (set cpu not even installed)
Cell standby 34%
phone idle 32%
display 25%
android system 3%
internet 2%
android OS 2%
htc launcher 2%
i sync friendstream every hour, weather every hour and yahoo every hour.
at this rate it's gonna last 3 days!
Insert whiny post about how much my battery life sucks.
Now that I've just rooted my Inspire, are there any fixes that are available that will help improve battery life? I am using the RCDMix3D rom, and my phone barely lasts 6 hours. I take all of the suggested actions like turning off bluetooth, gps, wifi, autosync, and background data, but it doesn't seem to help much. I even bought a 1600mAH battery, which lasts no longer than the standard 1230mAH one.
So, looking for anything I can flash, or download, or whatever that will help improve it. Good battery life is something I really need in a phone, and the Inspire's is the one thing that is making me consider switching phones. (which I'd rather not do, I love this phone!)
Thanks!
honestly if you are only getting six hourse with the setup you have, im tempted to say something is wrong with your phone......
unless you are getting 4 or more hours of screen-on time. how much screen on time?
i was getting 15 hours out of the box with 2 hours of screen on. now with leedroid, slightly underclocked, im getting about 24 hours with 3 hours screen time.
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honestly if you are only getting six hourse with the setup you have, im tempted to say something is wrong with your phone......
unless you are getting 4 or more hours of screen-on time. how much screen on time?
i was getting 15 hours out of the box with 2 hours of screen on. now with leedroid, slightly underclocked, im getting about 24 hours with 3 hours screen time.
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OP, if you're talking 6 hours to go from 100% to 0%, you've got something else going on. Big time. Especially of you're turning off all that stuff and *still* only getting 6 hours.
Now, if you had the screen on that entire time, I'd actually say you have great battery life, but I suspect that's not the case.
If it happens with both of your batteries, there has to be something else running on your phone, perhaps as a background service, that's sucking that much juice.
@ OP:
I get like 1 hour call per 18-20% battery on 3G/H. So 6 hours of call time from 100 to 0 is good in my opinion.
If not on calls: I did a stress test 2 days back. I got ~6.5 hours display time for movies from 100 to 5% battery with display at 25%.
So like people pointed out above, unless u r continuously on calls or having display on for atleast 3-4 hours with data transfer on 3g/h, something is wrong.
Here are my normal stats:
1 hour calls, 2 hours display exclusively with data transfer, all these on 3G/H, with about 12 hours standby, I come home with about 35-40% battery left.
I agree with the posters above there is definitely something wrong. Slightly UC & UV I get 6-7h screen time.
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Insert whiny post about how much my battery life sucks.
Now that I've just rooted my Inspire, are there any fixes that are available that will help improve battery life? I am using the RCDMix3D rom, and my phone barely lasts 6 hours. I take all of the suggested actions like turning off bluetooth, gps, wifi, autosync, and background data, but it doesn't seem to help much. I even bought a 1600mAH battery, which lasts no longer than the standard 1230mAH one.
So, looking for anything I can flash, or download, or whatever that will help improve it. Good battery life is something I really need in a phone, and the Inspire's is the one thing that is making me consider switching phones. (which I'd rather not do, I love this phone!)
Thanks!
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A lot of testing with legitimate lab equipment has proven that ProdiCell batteries are not actually 1600mah, rather 1060mah which is actually lower than stock. Sorry if you bought one of their batteries.
I wasn't able to find the blog I was reading last night, but I can link you to the amazon comment thread where I first started my online research. >> Link <<
Yikes, that would suck if it was something wrong with the phone. I bought it off someone and was practically brand new, but I think it is out of warranty now.
It did this both before and after I had rooted my phone, so I'm not sure what background processes there could be that would be causing this? I know that some of the AT&T bloatware was always running in the background before (like Blockbuster), but I have since removed all of that crap.
I planned on doing some stress-testing today just to see. So far it has been unplugged for 56 minutes with 15 minutes of display time on, a 3 minute phone call, and using the internet for 5 minutes. Also sent/received about 20 SMS. Battery is at 94%.
Maybe I will switch back to the stock battery that came with the phone and see if there is any improvement. The one I am using now is meant for an HTC Desire, but I had read that those with an Inspire were able to use it with improvements. Not sure what brand makes it, but I do know it came from eBay That could be it by itself hah.
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Yikes, that would suck if it was something wrong with the phone. I bought it off someone and was practically brand new, but I think it is out of warranty now.
It did this both before and after I had rooted my phone, so I'm not sure what background processes there could be that would be causing this? I know that some of the AT&T bloatware was always running in the background before (like Blockbuster), but I have since removed all of that crap.
I planned on doing some stress-testing today just to see. So far it has been unplugged for 56 minutes with 15 minutes of display time on, a 3 minute phone call, and using the internet for 5 minutes. Also sent/received about 20 SMS. Battery is at 94%.
Maybe I will switch back to the stock battery that came with the phone and see if there is any improvement. The one I am using now is meant for an HTC Desire, but I had read that those with an Inspire were able to use it with improvements. Not sure what brand makes it, but I do know it came from eBay That could be it by itself hah.
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Have you tried a battery calibration? It's easy to do manually, but there's a convenient app on market called, wait for it... battery calibration, that makes it a one-click process.
I really doubt it's the phone hardware itself. Probably some combo of battery/calibration/rom/kernel/radio.
BTW, the phone just came out in mid-February, so technically it's not out of warranty. It's like a year or year and a half or something.
I'll try that app for sure. Thanks!
When I called HTC in May to order replacement battery/SIM door covers, they said my warranty would run out in the next month. Maybe the CS rep was a moron.
Do a fresh install and calibrate your battery. Use titanium backup to freeze user apps. Add your apps one by one to find out which apps are hogging your battery. Also, try charging it before you go to bed. Take it off the charger, and when you wake, check to see if your phone uses more than 1% battery per hour.
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Also make sure to turn off WiFi & mobile data when not using it, that will extend your charge.
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Do a fresh install and calibrate your battery. Use titanium backup to freeze user apps. Add your apps one by one to find out which apps are hogging your battery. Also, try charging it before you go to bed. Take it off the charger, and when you wake, check to see if your phone uses more than 1% battery per hour.
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I literally just rooted/flashed my ROM yesterday. I charged the phone back up to 100% today and used that calibration app, and so far it seems to have helped. It definitely uses more than 1% an hour. So far it's at 45% after having been unplugged for 5 hours and 37 minutes, with 2 hours and 4 minutes of display time, 10 minutes of phone calls on 3G, sent/received about 100 texts, checked/downloaded about 20 emails, and taken 10 or so pictures.
Of course, WiFi/Background data/auto-sync/bluetooth/GPS are off, and brightness is at about 40%.
I've got a weird one on this particular battery cycle. I used the battery calibration app before I went to sleep last night and unplugged the phone at 100% charge. While I was asleep...the dialer used 16% of my battery according to my battery stats and the total battery was down into the 60%'s...I searched google, and other sources / forums report a reboot fixes it, and the issue likely occured from a "Wake Lock State" occuring at my last previous phone call the previous evening...ugh hell of a bug...I haven't rebooted it yet, and still notice even plugging and unplugging all day dialer still in low teens for batt. %...seems to be an Android thing although thre seemed to be a preponderance of HTC's...but they are popular devices and there was a Samsung tablet in there with the same thing...
I just got a whole day with 3 hours screen time and gmail and htc sense getting updates, more than 100 texts and 40 minutes of calls and wifi on half the time the battery on this phone is awesome. At night i get maybe 2-3% drain in about 7 hours. I suggest you find a ROM with some UV capabilities, the ones with the oc/uv daemon are great as they already have the settings built in.
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I just got a whole day with 3 hours screen time and gmail and htc sense getting updates, more than 100 texts and 40 minutes of calls and wifi on half the time the battery on this phone is awesome. At night i get maybe 2-3% drain in about 7 hours. I suggest you find a ROM with some UV capabilities, the ones with the oc/uv daemon are great as they already have the settings built in.
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Wow, that's pretty good. What ROM are you using?
Doing a nandroid backup, and then gonna flash Gingerbeast after work to see if battery improves or not.
That's another weird thing about my phone; one of the places I work my shifts are only 4 hours long. I go in and the battery is at about 95% because I've been streaming music on the way there. I come out, and it's down to 30%, or less. The funny part is I don't even get a cell signal down there, and when I do I send and receive maybe 20 texts during that time. Nothing else. Don't even turn the display on aside from that.
So, for Gingerbeast, is there a different kernel I need to flash? I was reading a little about it, but as I am still new to this whole thing, I'm not entirely sure what that is. Do I just flash it using CWM? I downloaded one from LordMod that is supposed to help.
Thanks again all!
elijahpr said:
Doing a nandroid backup, and then gonna flash Gingerbeast after work to see if battery improves or not.
That's another weird thing about my phone; one of the places I work my shifts are only 4 hours long. I go in and the battery is at about 95% because I've been streaming music on the way there. I come out, and it's down to 30%, or less. The funny part is I don't even get a cell signal down there, and when I do I send and receive maybe 20 texts during that time. Nothing else. Don't even turn the display on aside from that.
So, for Gingerbeast, is there a different kernel I need to flash? I was reading a little about it, but as I am still new to this whole thing, I'm not entirely sure what that is. Do I just flash it using CWM? I downloaded one from LordMod that is supposed to help.
Thanks again all!
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Someone asked which ROM I'm using, its the one in my Sig...when you dont have signal I would put it in airplane mode because your phone will search and search for a signal and that kills battery fast.
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elijahpr said:
Doing a nandroid backup, and then gonna flash Gingerbeast after work to see if battery improves or not.
That's another weird thing about my phone; one of the places I work my shifts are only 4 hours long. I go in and the battery is at about 95% because I've been streaming music on the way there. I come out, and it's down to 30%, or less. The funny part is I don't even get a cell signal down there, and when I do I send and receive maybe 20 texts during that time. Nothing else. Don't even turn the display on aside from that.
So, for Gingerbeast, is there a different kernel I need to flash? I was reading a little about it, but as I am still new to this whole thing, I'm not entirely sure what that is. Do I just flash it using CWM? I downloaded one from LordMod that is supposed to help.
Thanks again all!
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The reason why you are losing so much battery is your phone is trying to connect to a tower in order to gain service. Switch to airplane mode when at work.
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The funny part is I don't even get a cell signal down there
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There's the culprit!!! When phone does not have proper signal, it increases the radio power so that it may not lose connection. And when connection comes in, and is good enough, it starts to slowly scale down the power to the radio.
Hahaha, that's awesome. I was thinking the exact same thing as the three posts above me when I was working today... kind of an "oh, duh!" moment, then I come back and check the thread and ya'll confirmed it.
Flashing Gingerbeast right now, so hopefully that will show if it's the ROM or my hardware that's causing the battery drain. Gonna try it out for the rest of the day, though I will miss my Sense 3.0
Fellow MT4GS users,
How is your battery lasting you? I'm coming from a MT4G, even though I eventually modded it, and it I used to get at least a full day and have to charge that night at the worst unless I really heavily used it.
My MT4GS has been lasting me half a day or so before I get into the yellow/red and I'm usually charging before the sun goes down.
My main culprit according to the built in battery indicator is display at 65% (I'm on automatic brightness)
Just over 10 hours today for me before I had to charge.
ps- Anyone know how to remove the annoying low power notifications? I'm getting two pop ups in a row.
Yeah mine generally lasts about 14 hours at moderate usage, but it's only been 2 days, and I remember when I got the MyTouch 4G it died on me while I was still at work and then after a week or so it got much better...
Yeah, I can agree with you there I think my MT4G was a little wonky the first week or so. We'll see how it goes.
breakaway87 said:
Fellow MT4GS users,
How is your battery lasting you? I'm coming from a MT4G, even though I eventually modded it, and it I used to get at least a full day and have to charge that night at the worst unless I really heavily used it.
My MT4GS has been lasting me half a day or so before I get into the yellow/red and I'm usually charging before the sun goes down.
My main culprit according to the built in battery indicator is display at 65% (I'm on automatic brightness)
Just over 10 hours today for me before I had to charge.
ps- Anyone know how to remove the annoying low power notifications? I'm getting two pop ups in a row.
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Only lasting 6 hours yesterday ....
My battery lasted about 33 hours. After the 1st full charge. So way better than my other phones have done. This wasnt heavy usage though. No videos or music just a few calls, lots of emails and some web browsing.
One problem I am having is low call volume. My videos and music are perfectly loud, just the call volume sucks.
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My battery lasted about 33 hours. After the 1st full charge. So way better than my other phones have done. This wasnt heavy usage though. No videos or music just a few calls, lots of emails and some web browsing.
One problem I am having is low call volume. My videos and music are perfectly loud, just the call volume sucks.
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how did you get 33 hours because mine on the 1st day on lasted about 10 hours.
I'm getting 6 hours. Its terrible. This things gonna get flushed down a toilet soon.
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I'm getting 6 hours. Its terrible. This things gonna get flushed down a toilet soon.
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Well make sure, your phones screen brightness is on low. Also make sure wifi,gps,bluetooth are off. Also make sure you kill some of the apps you ran on a task manager. just gotta find ways to keep the battery life up.
Well when I first got the phone, I didnt charge it until it was almost dead. Then fully charged it.
Also I turned off GPS, WiFi ect. I also use task manager to kill background programs that I don't need or want running.
We will see if the battery life goes down after a few weeks. Sometimes they take time to normalize.
Oh what task you ended and what task manger you used?
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Well make sure, your phones screen brightness is on low. Also make sure wifi,gps,bluetooth are off. Also make sure you kill some of the apps you ran on a task manager. just gotta find ways to keep the battery life up.
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I appreciate the help but the logic is off. This is the latest ..and i stress smartttphone. It is supsupposed to be used as such. Bluetooth ..4g..music...video calling..maps..etc.. if u use of of these features six hours it will last. If you use them all try maybe 4 hours. Plus those boxes are annoying when the batterly is low. This phone has got to be rooted.
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I appreciate the help but the logic is off. This is the latest ..and i stress smartttphone. It is supsupposed to be used as such. Bluetooth ..4g..music...video calling..maps..etc.. if u use of of these features six hours it will last. If you use them all try maybe 4 hours. Plus those boxes are annoying when the batterly is low. This phone has got to be rooted.
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I'm gonna have to agree with that one, that's pretty much no different than saying buy a car but don't drive it so you can save gas lol
I have gotten to around 12 hours or more now. Still moderate overall but heavier browser usage.
I do not kill tasks or turn off wifi, gps or anything. My brightness is auto.
I uninstalled the recent maps update because I saw where G2 users seem to think the recent update is draining their battery so I wondered if it could maybe be causing issues here too.
Anyways my battery life has gotten into the acceptable range and that was all I really did other than have more days to monitor it.
Some technical specs on the battery:
Model: BG58100
Rating: 3.7V DC
Charge Capacity: 1520mAh
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This appears to be the same battery that is in the Sensation 4G according to Google.
For us this is good because Ebay and Amazon are already flooded with replacement batteries.
We need to find a higher capacity mAh battery but with the same size as to not make us have to get a replacement back. This shouldn't be that hard.
My old phone has a smaller battery with a higher mAh capacity so the battery in the myTouch 4G Slide is an utter disappointment. They could have easily produced a 3000 mAh battery for this beast of a phone.
Edit: Found a 1900 mAh battery for only 9.99.
sonicjam said:
Well make sure, your phones screen brightness is on low. Also make sure wifi,gps,bluetooth are off. Also make sure you kill some of the apps you ran on a task manager. just gotta find ways to keep the battery life up.
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Screen is on the least bright setting. I'm an ex blackberry user and dont even have one app. I could care less about apps. I'm charging every 5 hours and thats sometimes from just it sitting around/ not even using the phone. The thing better get it's act together. I'm starting to like the keyboard too but I'm up at 5am and if im charging at noon that's terrible. Especially with minimal use.
Akujin said:
Some technical specs on the battery:
Model: BG58100
Rating: 3.7V DC
Charge Capacity: 1520mAh
This appears to be the same battery that is in the Sensation 4G according to Google.
For us this is good because Ebay and Amazon are already flooded with replacement batteries.
We need to find a higher capacity mAh battery but with the same size as to not make us have to get a replacement back. This shouldn't be that hard.
My old phone has a smaller battery with a higher mAh capacity so the battery in the myTouch 4G Slide is an utter disappointment. They could have easily produced a 3000 mAh battery for this beast of a phone.
Edit: Found a 1900 mAh battery for only 9.99.
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I've found the slide version there too for $11.99. I've wonder how long it will last with that battery.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Anker-1900mAh-B...Accessories&hash=item4aad15c501#ht_3648wt_942
There must be something wrong. Mine lasts about that long playing videos and games, messing with the camera, web browsing etc..
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As I posted in my other thread, battery sucks on this phone. I had to keep wifi off all the day to keep it from dying by 6pm. Funny how 4g speed is so bad in nyc that wifi is the only other option to do something meaningful.
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As I posted in my other thread, battery sucks on this phone. I had to keep wifi off all the day to keep it from dying by 6pm. Funny how 4g speed is so bad in nyc that wifi is the only other option to do something meaningful.
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Weird I live in small city and 4G is crazy fast. When I get to a big city like Baltimore, Maryland the 4G was slow. My thoughts are there too many people on the 4G network. T-Mobile did promised us double the 4G speed and they need more Towers too.
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For the first couple days, my battery life was awful. I'd be getting low-bat notifications when I got home from an 8-hour day at work.
But of course that's always the case with new phones that haven't even had the settings tweaked...
- Placed a Wifi toggle widget on the homepage and turn it off every day after leaving home for work in the morning.
- Ensured certain programs and updates were not running in the background automatically:
~ Turned off Autosync on accounts (manual only)
~ Turned off autoupdates for weather
~ No Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi, unless turned on for a specific reason
~ Enabled power efficiency and power saver modes (30%)
~ Disabled Always-on data connection
~ Disabled auto-updates in various apps (Friendcaster, IM+ Pro, etc.)
- Turned the screen off when not in use
Today I'm at 40% after 14 hours of mixed use. I'd say that's DAMN good.
By the way, for those seeing the whole "Autosync off" thing and thinking that you can't do it, just do it. I don't get my work email or personal email on my phone unless I tell it to and it's utterly awesome. Less stress. Less looking at my phone constantly. It feels free and just plain great. And I used to be superconnected 24/7 syncing every 5 minutes (if push wasn't available).
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33% after 5 hours, but taking into account:
1. Phone set to GSM Auto (PRL), BT off
2. Screen brightness set to max, note how long the screen was on during the 5 hours from the screenshot
3. Three hours spent going in and out of signal/bad coverage areas
4. Music on headphones + DSP Manager enabled about three hours
5. Watched 1 hour of video (max brightness)
6. Heavy internet use and messaging for approx 4 hours
7. 15 minutes of phone calls
so 33%... does that seem normal after the above?
Looks quite typical to me. Music on for several hours? You're taxing the processor a bit there. You'll want to recharge the phone nightly (as all of us do...)
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Looks quite typical to me. Music on for several hours? You're taxing the processor a bit there. You'll want to recharge the phone nightly (as all of us do...)
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I end up having to charge it halfway through the day then again at night, as I use it quite a bit. But I was having concerns about battery life as my power usage readings were always higher than everyone elses when idle.
I use my phone as my music player while I commute, although that doesn't seem to be very taxing, I let the music play overnight with the battery at 100%, ten hours later it was still at 65%. But I was not sure about during use, I always felt the percentage went down too quickly.
I'm a Nexus S user, so I can't comment on what battery life is considered "normal" for Desire S.
What I do know is that:
With your usage, that would be normal for Nexus S. In fact, better than my setup (which is stock 2.3.4 ROM). Three hours of music + 1 hour of video and your phone's still alive?
Amazing.
What ROM are you on?
Now I want me a Desire S!!
Edit: I missed the fact that during the 3-hour music, the screen is mostly off. Well, no longer *that* amazing (sorry ), but still considerably better than my Nexus S!
The point to note is the angle of the graph when the screen is on compared to that when the screen is off
Without stating the obvious screen usage kills the battery, so I'd suggest keeping the screen bright ness to a minimum and I'd recommend against using the auto setting as it defaults way to high, you'll only need high brightness in direct sunlight
I get similar numbers, I'd consider your usage as heavy and undercut consider taking a spare charger with you so that you can top up during day after periods of heavy usage
Instal an application like battery monitor widget to log your battery usage while the device is sleeping (screen off and not playing music) to determine if you are suffering from a battery drain
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My battery lasts for 16+ hrs..
usage includes 1 hr of music,
1 hr of video, 1 hr gaming,
2-3hr wifi ON
Net always ON on EDGE (not 3G) for sync except the night where 6 hrs GPRS is off,
\m/
ben_pyett said:
The point to note is the angle of the graph when the screen is on compared to that when the screen is off
Without stating the obvious screen usage kills the battery, so I'd suggest keeping the screen bright ness to a minimum and I'd recommend against using the auto setting as it defaults way to high, you'll only need high brightness in direct sunlight
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Good tips. I just tried turning the brightness down (it was at max) and I barely noticed the difference until it got below 50%! This may significantly increase battery life, we'll see.
Thank you all for your responses
ben_pyett said:
The point to note is the angle of the graph when the screen is on compared to that when the screen is off
Without stating the obvious screen usage kills the battery, so I'd suggest keeping the screen bright ness to a minimum and I'd recommend against using the auto setting as it defaults way to high, you'll only need high brightness in direct sunlight
I get similar numbers, I'd consider your usage as heavy and undercut consider taking a spare charger with you so that you can top up during day after periods of heavy usage
Instal an application like battery monitor widget to log your battery usage while the device is sleeping (screen off and not playing music) to determine if you are suffering from a battery drain
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I've already tried using battery monitors - and I was constantly getting higher readings than other users (i.e. Battery Monitor Widget would never go below 14mA on sleep, when other users were getting 6-9 mA) so I was thinking maybe the readings are false. Hence the reason for this thread - rather than using mA readings, I thought I'd post this and compare the actual battery life with other users.
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I'm a Nexus S user, so I can't comment on what battery life is considered "normal" for Desire S.
What I do know is that:
With your usage, that would be normal for Nexus S. In fact, better than my setup (which is stock 2.3.4 ROM). Three hours of music + 1 hour of video and your phone's still alive?
Amazing.
What ROM are you on?
Now I want me a Desire S!!
Edit: I missed the fact that during the 3-hour music, the screen is mostly off. Well, no longer *that* amazing (sorry ), but still considerably better than my Nexus S!
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The screen wasn't off for the whole time while listening to music, I was using Whatsapp for most of the time along side. I'm on the 1.1 beta Superkid CM7 ROM.
Whoa! That's not normal battery life. Please see my guide thread, and especially see the last post I made this morning.
Ben is right though, screen brightness at 100% won't be helping your cause. I leave mine at 45% when indoors.
PM me if you need help.
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Whoa! That's not normal battery life. Please see my guide thread, and especially see the last post I made this morning.
Ben is right though, screen brightness at 100% won't be helping your cause. I leave mine at 45% when indoors.
PM me if you need help.
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Thanks, your guide was very handy. I've considered all the things there, but as I have been crying about for the last couple of weeks, no matter what ROM I use, my power consumption (according to Battery Monitor Widget) never went below 14mA. In CM7 (the ROM I use), the one item always eating most battery (whether phone is idle or heavily used), is "Mobile Standby". In other ROMs, "Mobile Standby" is much further down the list as it should be, but my usage is still never lower than 14mA.
I figured perhaps there was something wrong in the readings, or in the information displayed, so decided to just do a subjective test by using the device very heavily just to see what the battery drain would be like.
So my case above, was a 5 hour period of heavy internet browsing, internet messaging (Whatsapp), 3 hour music playback (continuous, while messaging/browsing), 1 hour video playback, with a combination of 2G, 3G, no signal, and bad coverage areas, a bit of GPS usage, and the screen was on for a large portion of the time, on 100% brightness.
As you said in your guide - when you do a second charge in the middle of the day, the battery life for that charge is lower than an overnight charge. Although I haven't really taken notice of this, the above took place in the afternoon, after being charged from around 50% to 100%. I kept it plugged into a USB charger until around 3pm, then conducted the above drainage test.
When you say this is not normal battery life, what do you mean? Should I have still had a lot more remaining charge after all that heavy drainage + screen on (at max brightness) for most of the time?
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Thanks, your guide was very handy. I've considered all the things there, but as I have been crying about for the last couple of weeks, no matter what ROM I use, my power consumption (according to Battery Monitor Widget) never went below 14mA. In CM7 (the ROM I use), the one item always eating most battery (whether phone is idle or heavily used), is "Mobile Standby". In other ROMs, "Mobile Standby" is much further down the list as it should be, but my usage is still never lower than 14mA.
I figured perhaps there was something wrong in the readings, or in the information displayed, so decided to just do a subjective test by using the device very heavily just to see what the battery drain would be like.
So my case above, was a 5 hour period of heavy internet browsing, internet messaging (Whatsapp), 3 hour music playback (continuous, while messaging/browsing), 1 hour video playback, with a combination of 2G, 3G, no signal, and bad coverage areas, a bit of GPS usage, and the screen was on for a large portion of the time, on 100% brightness.
As you said in your guide - when you do a second charge in the middle of the day, the battery life for that charge is lower than an overnight charge. Although I haven't really taken notice of this, the above took place in the afternoon, after being charged from around 50% to 100%. I kept it plugged into a USB charger until around 3pm, then conducted the above drainage test.
When you say this is not normal battery life, what do you mean? Should I have still had a lot more remaining charge after all that heavy drainage + screen on (at max brightness) for most of the time?
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I suppose if you have bad signal coverage AND heavy use AND screen at 100% brightness then maybe over 5 hours its to be expected. I must admit I've never tried recreating this. What do you get with more normal use typically? Or is this normal for you? I have found those current monitor apps/widgets to be so inconsistent I've stopped using them. Instead, I've started looking at apps that monitor CPU and Wake Lock times. I've found it much more helpful in tracking down battery drain.
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I suppose if you have bad signal coverage AND heavy use AND screen at 100% brightness then maybe over 5 hours its to be expected. I must admit I've never tried recreating this. What do you get with more normal use typically? Or is this normal for you? I have found those current monitor apps/widgets to be so inconsistent I've stopped using them. Instead, I've started looking at apps that monitor CPU and Wake Lock times. I've found it much more helpful in tracking down battery drain.
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Due to my long daily commute, this is almost my normal use (although not this excessive).
What app would you recommend to monitor CPU and Wake Lock times?
Thanks.
djsubtronic said:
Due to my long daily commute, this is almost my normal use (although not this excessive).
What app would you recommend to monitor CPU and Wake Lock times?
Thanks.
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decent battery stats application, that shows wake locks information in detail
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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decent battery stats application, that shows wake locks information in detail
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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That's the one!
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Having a look at the app, I don't see how it helps determining causes of battery drain? Could anyone shed a bit more light?
For example these are my top entry in "Wakelocks" and "Since charged":
android.media.MediaPlayer
com.tbig.playerpro.PlayerPro
3 h 51 m 1 s (13861 s) Count:180 44.1%
GTALK_CONN
Google Services
3 m 34 s (214 s) Count:1669 0.7
What do all those figures actually mean?
That's quite normal for a heavy usage with max brightness. But i also noticed that between 100% and 50% brightness there's not much difference. So i just set it around 50% outdoor and 30% indoor.
I think those figures mean that the music player is keeping your device awake for those 3 hours you played the music. Which probably explains the earlier part of your graph where it's awake but screen is not on. I think.
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That's quite normal for a heavy usage with max brightness. But i also noticed that between 100% and 50% brightness there's not much difference. So i just set it around 50% outdoor and 30% indoor.
I think those figures mean that the music player is keeping your device awake for those 3 hours you played the music. Which probably explains the earlier part of your graph where it's awake but screen is not on. I think.
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That particular info from BetterBatteryStats was not actually for the same period as in the screenshot, but I think what you said makes sense!
Thanks, your guide was very handy. I've considered all the things there, but as I have been crying about for the last couple of weeks, no matter what ROM I use, my power consumption (according to Battery Monitor Widget) never went below 14mA. In CM7 (the ROM I use), the one item always eating most battery (whether phone is idle or heavily used), is "Mobile Standby". In other ROMs, "Mobile Standby" is much further down the list as it should be, but my usage is still never lower than 14mA.
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How often do you allow your phone to check for emails? Maybe this is the cause of 14mA. Do you use a 3rd party email app?
I bought a used G2x in December 2011 and had okay battery life on the stock ROM. In January I started modding the phone with the Hell Phoenix and later Hellfire Sandwich ROMs. One day my phone started getting really hot and from that point on my battery life got worse and worse until it would only last a few hours. I ordered an 3500mAh extended battery from eBay, but it only increased the stamina of the phone to about 5 hours.
Since I never got a receipt from the previous user I had no warranty. However, I called LG and agreed to have the phone repaired for a fee that would not exceed $100 - they said it would cost between $40 and $100.
Fast forward 10 days and I received my phone back with a "replaced chipset" as it said on the note. And LG was nice enough to not charge me for the repair - kudos to LG!
I noticed that the phone was not getting hot or even warm anymore so I charged the 3500mAh battery to see how long it would last.
Unplugging the phone from the charger Thursday morning just before 8AM I used the phone as usual (light/medium use, but everything except BT enabled) all day Thursday, Friday and Saturday until the phone finally died Sunday morning at 2AM. Yes, that's 66 hours!!!
I'm still flabbergasted that this was possible, especially because I used the phone as usual and made several calls each day.
I'll try to attach a screenshot of the battery use. It was made at the time I went to bed Saturday night so it's not the full 66 hours.
Has anyone else ever gotten results like this or even higher?
Android version: Stock 2.3.3
Kernel: 2.6.32.9
Battery: eBay item 180721306295 from "bridge_wireless" $9 including shipping
Get Juice Defender Plus, it'll toggle your wifi automatically and save even more battery life.
Light usage (sending maybe a hundred texts and a couple web pages loaded) will easily get me through the weekend.
Using Faux DS Kernel and stock battery.
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redmonke255 said:
Get Juice Defender Plus, it'll toggle your wifi automatically and save even more battery life.
Light usage (sending maybe a hundred texts and a couple web pages loaded) will easily get me through the weekend.
Using Faux DS Kernel and stock battery.
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I tried Juice Defender Plus and Faux DS kernel in January but never got any amazing results, but maybe my phone wasn't that healthy back then. Also, I didn't do anything to save battery life during the 66 hour test other than setting the screen brightness to "Auto". I also made several phone calls - as far as I remember it was about one hour and thirty minutes in total.
This really makes me wonder how long I can get in "power-saver" mode (dim, wifi off, 2G, Juice Defender, Faux DS) with the 3500mAh battery. Has anyone tried this?
I would be happy with 12 hours of light/normal use.
Im using the trinity kernel. SetCPU,Juice defender, auto dim screen, Wefi plus,
the only thing that syncs often is facebook on the hour.
and I cant make it 8 hours on one charge.
I rarely use the phone for calls mostly use text for work and friends.
facebook & web through out the day. if i let the phone sit and dont touch it the battery will last all day
I know I am no "light" user. I bought the damn phone to USE it. but I wouldn't say I am always a heavy user. I dont expect to stream for 8 hours but it would be nice If i could listen to the stern show,check Email,facebook,Web & text and only need to charge once halfway through the day then again overnight
Most I've gotten was like 22 hours! -___-
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I am definitely a HEAVY user and get around 16-18 hours on a charge. Constantly have Wi-Fi on, sometimes mobile data, gaming such as Temple Run and Angry Birds, and atleast half the time listening to music through PowerAmp. Constant texting, and maybe about 20-30 minutes of calling.
Also, when your cell standby surpasses your display usage, it shows you aren't really using your phone.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
PhilipCourtois said:
Fast forward 10 days and I received my phone back with a "replaced chipset" as it said on the note. And LG was nice enough to not charge me for the repair - kudos to LG!
I noticed that the phone was not getting hot or even warm anymore so I charged the 3500mAh battery to see how long it would last.
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Have you popped open the phone to look at the board?
Just curious if there's any variation. Screened on revision number, etc.
PhilipCourtois said:
I bought a used G2x in December 2011 and had okay battery life on the stock ROM. In January I started modding the phone with the Hell Phoenix and later Hellfire Sandwich ROMs. One day my phone started getting really hot and from that point on my battery life got worse and worse until it would only last a few hours. I ordered an 3500mAh extended battery from eBay, but it only increased the stamina of the phone to about 5 hours.
Since I never got a receipt from the previous user I had no warranty. However, I called LG and agreed to have the phone repaired for a fee that would not exceed $100 - they said it would cost between $40 and $100.
Fast forward 10 days and I received my phone back with a "replaced chipset" as it said on the note. And LG was nice enough to not charge me for the repair - kudos to LG!
I noticed that the phone was not getting hot or even warm anymore so I charged the 3500mAh battery to see how long it would last.
Unplugging the phone from the charger Thursday morning just before 8AM I used the phone as usual (light/medium use, but everything except BT enabled) all day Thursday, Friday and Saturday until the phone finally died Sunday morning at 2AM. Yes, that's 66 hours!!!
I'm still flabbergasted that this was possible, especially because I used the phone as usual and made several calls each day.
I'll try to attach a screenshot of the battery use. It was made at the time I went to bed Saturday night so it's not the full 66 hours.
Has anyone else ever gotten results like this or even higher?
Android version: Stock 2.3.3
Kernel: 2.6.32.9
Battery: eBay item 180721306295 from "bridge_wireless" $9 including shipping
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What is your screen on/display time?
theking_13 said:
...Also, when your cell standby surpasses your display usage, it shows you aren't really using your phone...
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I'm not sure what you're trying to get at . As I said I used the phone as I normally do without any "battery saver" methods in place. I never claimed any heavy use during this test.
It'll be fun to try going in "battery saver" mode with the same battery and see if it'll last a week... Well - for ME it would be fun!
stkiswr said:
What is your screen on/display time?
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Not sure - I should have recorded that... Next time I will!
PhilipCourtois said:
I'm not sure what you're trying to get at . As I said I used the phone as I normally do without any "battery saver" methods in place. I never claimed any heavy use during this test.
It'll be fun to try going in "battery saver" mode with the same battery and see if it'll last a week... Well - for ME it would be fun!
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Well if I barely used my phone and mostly used it to check the time, I'd be surprised if it didn't last 3 days.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
theking_13 said:
Well if I barely used my phone and mostly used it to check the time, I'd be surprised if it didn't last 3 days.
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How fantastic - and thanks for the great constructive feedback! I love the warm feeling of knowing that the time I spend sharing my knowledge is appreciated without disbelief.
Really, I don't want to waste my time if you can't read. Just wanted to share my battery experience with stock 2.3.3, non-power saver configuration under normal phone use. And my idea of normal phone use is NOT just checking the time like you say. Compared to my experience when I originally got the phone I'm now getting way better battery life. I believe that the spread in battery performance is wide and far too many people settle with 4-6 hours of use before recharging with the reasoning that it's a dual-core phone and therefore swallows power as was it Gatorade. If I'm wrong and everyone knows that the G2X can go days on a charge then sorry that I brought it up.
Well when your display usage doesn't even show up, yet your cell standby and phone idle are at the top of the list, this means YOU ARENT USING YOUR PHONE. Any way you want to play this out, its not surprising that you get so much life out of your phone since its usually used as a fancy paperweight.
Maybe have your display usage on par with cell standby, then come show off amazing battery life.
Also, the 4-6 hours of life is most common on stock Froyo/GB. Not an issue anymore with custom roms.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
Guys, c'mon. You're not even talking about the same thing as each other. A debate is completely pointless.
theking_13 says you're not using your phone enough for the 66h to be that impressive.
PhilipCourtois says he wasn't bragging about how amazing his battery is, but just stating how much of an improvement it was over the stock experience.
Both of you are right. Philip is in fact not a very heavy user, so a longer life for a battery isn't completely surprising. However, phone idle accounts for 21%, whereas everything else accounts for 79%, which is by no means at all "a fancy paperweight". You can even see that the apps that were used account for 39% of the usage at that point, which is more than the cell standby. Furthermore, judging by the graph statistics, the phone was turned on relatively frequently.
Now for something on topic: I'd be interested in seeing someone do a proper test on a 3500mAh battery. Something along the lines of charging it up to 100%, leaving the screen on at 100%, settings both min and max CPU clock speeds to >1000MHz, and doing whatever else you would normally do on your phone in addition to that. Then posting a screenshot of how long that would last them. I predict somewhere along the lines of 9-12h, but it'd still be more informative than a lot of the reviews here. Not to say that the reviews here are unhelpful of bad, because they are very much so helpful.
Good point, but the app usage on GB is extremely inaccurate. I have had my phone on for 3 hours, 27% usage by cell standby, and I played Draw Something for two minutes, and it shows up as using 17% already? ICS graphs on the other hand, are more accurate.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
Hey, you said you get >16h and you're a heavy user. Now I'm not doubting that in any way, but I'm using the same ROM as you, as well as the ELP kernel, which not only is optimized for EB, but is also supposed to be a battery saving kernel. However I get probably around 12h on medium usage. I've tried the faux kernel, and it did give better battery life than the T15 Trinity kernel, but on ELP my device lasted longer (T15 < Faux OC/UV < ELP for me, in other words).
Anyway, my question is did that Anker battery give you far more life over your stock battery, or is your device just lucky when it comes to battery usage? An extra 50mAh is barely anything, but you did mention in another thread that it runs cooler. From personal experience, my phone battery drains faster when it's warmer, so maybe that's it?
I'm really just curious because I've been messing around with battery saving techniques/phone accessories these past few weeks, and I just seem stuck in that 10-14h range on medium (maybe even medium-light by your standards) usage.
My highest is 8 hours. WTF
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA
How much do you use your phone in those <8 hours? I have moments when I don't touch my phone for hours, and generally I go down at about 2%/h when on standby. So if you ignored those, I'd probably be in the same boat as you.
For example, this is me today:
As you could probably tell, I haven't exactly used my phone a lot today, so I'm at 47% after 11h. However, I tested my battery this weekend by setting my screen brightness to 100%, screen timeout to never, and CPU min/max to 1100MHz/1100MHz. These were the results:
As you can see, my battery didn't even make it to 4h, so it really depends on how you use your phone.
Bladedwings said:
Guys, c'mon. You're not even talking about the same thing as each other. A debate is completely pointless...
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You're right. I never wanted to start a debate - all I wanted was to shed light on the fact that battery life of the G2X can be fantastic - even on stock GB - with the simple upgrade to a 3500mAh, cheap ($9) battery. Before I had the chipset replaced, the phone did NOT last very long and from everything I read on the forums, crappy battery life should be expected if not flashing a custom ROM with battery saver kernel. I'm just saying that that's not true for every phone.
Bladedwings said:
PhilipCourtois says he wasn't bragging about how amazing his battery is, but just stating how much of an improvement it was over the stock experience.
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If by "stock experience" you mean the condition I bought the phone in - then yes. But by my standards, the phone is now in as close to a stock condition as you can get - all I did was put in the larger battery. It's running stock GB 2.3.3 with all the T-Mobile bloatware still on it, Google+ on, data sync on, WiFi, 4G etc. on and screen on auto. And I really doubt that LG put in a "special", fantastic chipset when I sent it in for a repair.
Anyway, it seems a real enlightening discussion is on the way once we really start comparing use versus battery life and see that our phones differ dramatically in this regard.
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Hey, you said you get >16h and you're a heavy user. Now I'm not doubting that in any way, but I'm using the same ROM as you, as well as the ELP kernel, which not only is optimized for EB, but is also supposed to be a battery saving kernel. However I get probably around 12h on medium usage. I've tried the faux kernel, and it did give better battery life than the T15 Trinity kernel, but on ELP my device lasted longer (T15 < Faux OC/UV < ELP for me, in other words).
Anyway, my question is did that Anker battery give you far more life over your stock battery, or is your device just lucky when it comes to battery usage? An extra 50mAh is barely anything, but you did mention in another thread that it runs cooler. From personal experience, my phone battery drains faster when it's warmer, so maybe that's it?
I'm really just curious because I've been messing around with battery saving techniques/phone accessories these past few weeks, and I just seem stuck in that 10-14h range on medium (maybe even medium-light by your standards) usage.
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Well I'll tell you everything I did in a sec. But the battery helped maybe 20 minutes, but it is a new battery, so its going to get better results than one that is say 9 months. If it was a brand new LG battery, I'd get the same results.
Now onto what I've done to get this much. First of all, I use EaglesBlood rom and Faux's v0.48 kernel, CM Driver, not DS. I use Wi-Fi constantly, say for about 3-5 hours of the 16 hours that its used. For the most part, I have the network set to only connect to EDGE, not UMTS or HSPA. So 2G for most of the day. Then on the way home, I use 4G for around 30 minutes to an hour, and thats what kills my battery like there's no tomorrow.
Some other things I've done are replaced the Gallery app (supposedly uses battery all the time scanning for files) and use QuickPic instead. Replaced the stock Browser with Dolphin Browser and not only is it smoother, but it doesn't run in the background after I've closed it. Also, turned off logging for the SU app, turned off notifications for Facebook, Play Store, Words with Friends, Scramble with Friends, and auto synching for my Google accounts. Basically turned off background notifications for all apps except Pulse (news app) and Voxer (walkie talkie app).
Lastly, I have my CPU set to 216-816 MHz all the time, unless I play a game and whatnot. I notice no lag whatsoever while playing music and texting/on XDA/ browsing Pulse/etc. I undervolted -25mv across the board, even after what was already lowered through Faux's kernel. Ill post a screen shot so you know what they are. I found if I lowered them more, I'd get reboots sometimes when turning on Wi-fi.
If you have any questions, reply here or PM me. I'll be happy to help.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.