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Thinking of getting the Sensation.

Was wondering if it was worth upgrading from a g2? What do you guys think about it? Let me have some pros and cons before I dish out my booze money I had saved lol.
[G2/HTC Vision]

no. just wait for the next one. the build quaility of sensation is really low.

henrik.dk said:
no. just wait for the next one. the build quaility of sensation is really low.
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agreed ,and henrik.dk was being nice because he could of said worse

henrik.dk said:
no. just wait for the next one. the build quaility of sensation is really low.
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dont get any worse than the build quality of the g2 ....get one

tigerz0202 said:
dont get any worse than the build quality of the g2 ....get one
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you also right thats why he should wait dont make sense to to dush out more money for another low build quality phone

Can you elaborate on poor build quality?
I bought yesterday and now you have me seriously worried.

phonegod said:
you also right thats why he should wait dont make sense to to dush out more money for another low build quality phone
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well i like mine ,ive got no probs with the build quality , i get a new phone every year so i only wait a year, my hd2 was the only phone i kept over a year, so its whatever your means are to keep up with the technology

mcpothead said:
Can you elaborate on poor build quality?
I bought yesterday and now you have me seriously worried.
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just read the forum post on sensation general,sensation Q&A theres alot of things that go on with the phone i for one like it not had some of the problems people have but this is my third sensation so ive had my bit of problems but on my third sensation everthing is good

phonegod said:
just read the forum post on sensation general,sensation Q&A theres alot of things that go on with the phone i for one like it not had some of the problems people have but this is my third sensation so ive had my bit of problems but on my third sensation everthing is good
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Thanks mate yea I saw the issues there they seem to be with certain handsets only.
I was just worried as the guy above made it sound like there was problem with all the handsets build quality

mcpothead said:
Thanks mate yea I saw the issues there they seem to be with certain handsets only.
I was just worried as the guy above made it sound like there was problem with all the handsets build quality
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sure no problem you will be ok just handle the phone with care the back piece is fragile very, try not to drop the back cover or you will loose your volume rocker or the power button and remember to slide it in and out the back cover head first thats what he meant about build quality i think

phonegod said:
sure no problem you will be ok just handle the phone with care the back piece is fragile very, try not to drop the back cover or you will loose your volume rocker or the power button and remember to slide it in and out the back cover head first thats what he meant about build quality i think
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Thanks again will take extra care when putting the battery in. Then the case and screen protector are going straight on

THIS IS THE WORST, MOST SHODDILY CONSTRUCTED PHONE THAT COULD EVER EXIST (Not)
The "build quality" of the phone is fine. There are a few problems associated with being early adopters, that a small fraction of people on XDA have. As far as I know, everyone with major issues had them resolved by returning their phone, in store and getting it replaced on the spot.
There are different displays one bye AUO and one made by Sharp, if you're having trouble and prefer either display you can go in-store and exchange it, after telling them the issues you're having with your phone.
Furthermore many of the so called "issues" with build quality are BS manufactured by XDA-ers. Like:
"If I turn of my screen and hold it at a 45 degree angle while shining a flashlight at it I can see a spec of dust under the screen, I'm really really worried ='("
or my personal favorite:
"When I press down on the buttons on the bottom of my screen I hear a slight creaking sound WTF HTC!?!?"
My personal second favorite is THE LAGGY SENSE ISSUE, which essentially goes like this :
"I saw a video on youtube and the HTC EVO 3D runs the HTC Sense homescreen carousel milliseconds faster and smoother than the HTC Sensation, WTF HTC !!! IS THIS WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR!?!?!?"
- I would like to note that this issue only came into existence after said video made its way to the forums and someone decided that it was an "issue" that a slightly newer phone, with slightly better hardware and a slightly more optimized ROM, ran sense 3.0 slightly better than our phones do at the moment.
- They aren't buttons... this is a touch screen phone and just because they look like buttons doesn't mean that they should be pressed like buttons.
- Wifi-Signal attenuation while holding the phone, in landscape, a particular way IS real, but only if you are far away from your router. ALL phones experience signal attenuation when all or parts of the radios are covered, our phones do not lost Cellular data signal when held in landscape as has been erroneously reported in some places.
Now I will tell you about my experiences with the phone. Both cameras perform poorly in low light conditions and other than that it's a beast of a phone. Absolutely phenomenal.Strangely enough, I don't hear many people talking about this, actual issue where the phone is not performing as one might realistically expect it to perform.
I got my device on launch day and haven't had one "issue" yet. I have seen and others have noted that some dust can get inside of the phone's case, near the headphone jack. I would consider this another NON-issue as it has not been shown to cause any issues. Furthermore dust frequently gets inside of electronics, that's why the good lord above invented compressed air. Some XDA-ers inhale it then try to find issues with their devices, I will use it to clean my phone in a few months, the same way that I do to my desktop PC or the way my little brother does to his gaming consoles.
It's a terrible phone if you only use it at 45 degree angles, in the dark, while shining a flashlight on it, with the display turned off as you press extra hard on the touchscreen (because YOU believe they are buttons to be pressed and not a screen to be touched), using your phone a mile away from your home router, in landscape while completely covering the top of the phone and watching videos of HTC EVO 3D's performing slightly better and getting jealous.
If you use your phone like a normal end-user or even a power user and NOT a beta tester in a laboratory setting then the phone is amazing.
I rest my case.

Thanks for the info guys. Much appreciated.
[G2/HTC Vision]

That was pretty good statement. +1
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk

BonesRed speaks the truth

Thanks for the info don't feel so nervous now

Thanks
BonesRed said:
The "build quality" of the phone is fine. There are a few problems associated with being early adopters, that a small fraction of people on XDA have. As far as I know, everyone with major issues had them resolved by returning their phone, in store and getting it replaced on the spot.
There are different displays one bye AUO and one made by Sharp, if you're having trouble and prefer either display you can go in-store and exchange it, after telling them the issues you're having with your phone.
Furthermore many of the so called "issues" with build quality are BS manufactured by XDA-ers. Like:
"If I turn of my screen and hold it at a 45 degree angle while shining a flashlight at it I can see a spec of dust under the screen, I'm really really worried ='("
or my personal favorite:
"When I press down on the buttons on the bottom of my screen I hear a slight creaking sound WTF HTC!?!?"
My personal second favorite is THE LAGGY SENSE ISSUE, which essentially goes like this :
"I saw a video on youtube and the HTC EVO 3D runs the HTC Sense homescreen carousel milliseconds faster and smoother than the HTC Sensation, WTF HTC !!! IS THIS WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR!?!?!?"
- I would like to note that this issue only came into existence after said video made its way to the forums and someone decided that it was an "issue" that a slightly newer phone, with slightly better hardware and a slightly more optimized ROM, ran sense 3.0 slightly better than our phones do at the moment.
- They aren't buttons... this is a touch screen phone and just because they look like buttons doesn't mean that they should be pressed like buttons.
- Wifi-Signal attenuation while holding the phone, in landscape, a particular way IS real, but only if you are far away from your router. ALL phones experience signal attenuation when all or parts of the radios are covered, our phones do not lost Cellular data signal when held in landscape as has been erroneously reported in some places.
Now I will tell you about my experiences with the phone. Both cameras perform poorly in low light conditions and other than that it's a beast of a phone. Absolutely phenomenal.Strangely enough, I don't hear many people talking about this, actual issue where the phone is not performing as one might realistically expect it to perform.
I got my device on launch day and haven't had one "issue" yet. I have seen and others have noted that some dust can get inside of the phone's case, near the headphone jack. I would consider this another NON-issue as it has not been shown to cause any issues. Furthermore dust frequently gets inside of electronics, that's why the good lord above invented compressed air. Some XDA-ers inhale it then try to find issues with their devices, I will use it to clean my phone in a few months, the same way that I do to my desktop PC or the way my little brother does to his gaming consoles.
It's a terrible phone if you only use it at 45 degree angles, in the dark, while shining a flashlight on it, with the display turned off as you press extra hard on the touchscreen (because YOU believe they are buttons to be pressed and not a screen to be touched), using your phone a mile away from your home router, in landscape while completely covering the top of the phone and watching videos of HTC EVO 3D's performing slightly better and getting jealous.
If you use your phone like a normal end-user or even a power user and NOT a beta tester in a laboratory setting then the phone is amazing.
I rest my case.
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thanks man

luis86dr said:
Was wondering if it was worth upgrading from a g2? What do you guys think about it? Let me have some pros and cons before I dish out my booze money I had saved lol.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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You should look into getting the mytouch 4g slide it comes out July 27th it has pretty much the same specs but you won't have to give up your physical keyboard and it can handle T-Mobile HSPA+
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

I am not sure what these guys are referring to as having questionable build quality. If anything that would apply to the G2 and that was my last phone...well, right before the G2x horror.
You should be quite happy with the Sensation, if you have nothing against HTC Sense, as it is a very good device. Very good. I am certain it will be bested in some way by another high end Android phone in a few months, or weeks (there's always something new) but I am flat out thrilled to be using one right now.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

Having had HTC HERO and A HTD HD7 I was more of inclined to go for the SENSATION,
But after hovering around both threads decided for the GAlaxy s2 due to better back camera and front camera(2mp) and also for the fact that it came with bootloader unlocked
ANd I guess that was the best decision I made cause of one more reason being....
You can flash the latest firmwares on samsung Devices with ODIN without the NEED TO ROOT which I think is really cool.
I am already on a leaked version of 2.3.4 running beautifully with gtalk video working really great and have not even rooted my phone yet
Just my thoughts.........

stablizer

just yesterday when i was at school with my friend i start using my camera and because my friend has n8 i wanted to see which one is best
for what i felt that since n8 have stablizer the picture was much better when my hand was moving but beside the screen was small
and in my sensation i noticed that my screen was very laggy and every time my hand moved all the screen would lose the area and distort
my point is because of the stablizer the video came better than my sensation even though i was recording in both with my hand
i want to know if it is possible for camera to use stablizer to make the image better because without it the quality isn't good
please reply and let me know if this can be done

16:9/Fullscreen camera photos - DOESN'T reduce quality at all

Ok so forgive me for those who know this already - I'm only posting this because despite this being an advanced developers forum, I'm NOT particularly advanced and I still come here so I'm assuming there are others like me and thought something basic like this might be interesting to know. No hate please if I'm stating the obvious!
Using my Galaxy s3 I hated the borders on photos (as opposed to the beautiful full screen snaps I'd get with my old htc one x). I used to think this was some special sensor on the one x and for an embarassing period of time I didn't realize that you can get exactly the same on the Galaxy, just by going to settings and changing the camera resolution to the '9mp' option. This will give you fullscreen, eye-pleasing 16:9 photos.
(yes, i know some camera enthusiasts hate the ratio but personally most of my photos stay on my phone so I'm not worried.)
For a long time I was worried about using it because I saw '9mp' and naturally immediately assumed this meant lower image quality. In actual fact, this option does not lower quality by one iota, all it does is crop and use a narrower field of view - which if you don't mind - leads to beautiful full screen shots at the maximum quality the gs3/gs4 allows.
There's an excellent video here explaining it better. It's for the htc one x, but the principle is identical:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU-NLQrjb9w&feature=player_embedded
Hope this is helpful (for someone) x

Anyone doubted this?

sigh.
Just thought it might help.
I'm sure most people here are experts in all areas of tech. But thought there might be a chance there are some who know their way around a phone but have limited knowledge concerning aspect ratios, sensor shape, and field of view intricacies.

I think this is a good point.:good:

Yea good, thanks mate. I knew anyway but always good to have something there for the people who don't know.

[Q] New Z3 owner - Almost perfect, but two major gripes.

I switched to T-Mo to get this phone because VZW pissed me off by releasing their bastardized version. I love the look and feel of the Z3. I love the water resistance. The screen is amazing. The interface is unobtrusive and actually adds some useful features on top of stock Android. All of that said, I have two major disappointments:
1. The camera. I was expecting a stellar camera experience. I can honestly say that the camera is one of the worst I've used on any phone in the past year. I have 10+ different smartphones, as I have to test them with software at work. Of all the flagship Android devices released this year, this is the worst camera experience I've had. I'm so disappointed, because I was really looking for a phone that would keep me from carrying an iPhone 6 around just for the camera. I'm sick of carrying two phones. I'm not trying to complain, rather ask if someone has any ideas to get better pictures out of this camera? It does just fine with anything that is standing still, but trying to take pics of a kid or animal in motion, even in decent light, seems like a losing battle.
2. The vibration motor is SO LOUD. Is this just me? Did I get a defective one? It's so loud that if it's sitting on the carpet two rooms away I can hear it vibrate. It kind of defeats the purpose of putting it into silent (vibrate) mode, because everyone sitting in a large conference room can hear it vibrate in my pocket.
Any feedback or suggestions on these two issues would be appreciated.

The camera works better once you go in manual mode and play with some settings there. As for your motor, my first Z3 was incredibly loud as well, and I exchanged it and this one I have now is much better. My other gripe is typing and not registering input... I've tried different keyboards with no luck.

I haven't had any of those problems. My Z3 catches every touch and the motor sounds normal to me.

Can't say I've ever known iphone cameras to be any good to be fair but the Z3 camera is one of the worst.
As for the vibration motor, mine is very quiet and not very powerful.
My keyboard is awful too and no keyboards fix it.

Auto mode for camera is not great, hopefully fixed in Lillipop update, but on manual it takes pretty great pics.

abhinav.tella said:
Auto mode for camera is not great, hopefully fixed in Lillipop update, but on manual it takes pretty great pics.
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I'm going to go back to T-Mo today and compare my vibration to the display model. I think there's something wrong there. As for the camera, I've been diving into the manual settings. Sure, with 10-15 seconds of setting up a shot with all the right settings, it can take decent pictures. That said, I can pull out the 6 Plus in full auto and snap something just as good, if not better, almost every time. With a kid and pets, it's all about being able to pull off spontaneous shots without fiddling with settings for 10 seconds. By then, the moment has passed. It's super frustrating.
I'm strongly considering exchanging for a Note 4. The Z3 is just so gorgeous, but I think the camera is a deal breaker for me. As someone who has had every variant of Sony's excellent RX-100 line, it's disappointing to see such a poor photo experience on a phone that should be incredible. This camera ticks every check box and should be an amazing performer.

For any of you with a laggy keyboard try uninstalling the last Google Search update and reinstalling. That fixed mine.
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MarkyD311 said:
I'm going to go back to T-Mo today and compare my vibration to the display model. I think there's something wrong there. As for the camera, I've been diving into the manual settings. Sure, with 10-15 seconds of setting up a shot with all the right settings, it can take decent pictures. That said, I can pull out the 6 Plus in full auto and snap something just as good, if not better, almost every time. With a kid and pets, it's all about being able to pull off spontaneous shots without fiddling with settings for 10 seconds. By then, the moment has passed. It's super frustrating.
I'm strongly considering exchanging for a Note 4. The Z3 is just so gorgeous, but I think the camera is a deal breaker for me. As someone who has had every variant of Sony's excellent RX-100 line, it's disappointing to see such a poor photo experience on a phone that should be incredible. This camera ticks every check box and should be an amazing performer.
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Or you could keep your z3 and buy a sony qx100. You will have photos at rx100 quality from you phone...

Go to settings, language and keyboard, click the tools icon on the keyboard you are using, scroll down to sound and vibrate, vibration intensity
See if that also fixes the vibrate mode in general

calinormy said:
Or you could keep your z3 and buy a sony qx100. You will have photos at rx100 quality from you phone...
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Lol

Lol ? You have no ideea what are you talking about...Read more before post something

Question Backup phone for pixel 7 pro?

Helloz
I haven't been able to make my mind so i decided to see what u guys think.
So now im rocking a 256gb pixel 7 pro.
My old phone was one plus 7 pro which is still in a very good shape. Like my all phones it was rooted.
My wife's old phone is an galaxy note 20 ultra which is in a good shape as well but not rooted.
I have to give out one of them and keep one.
Im really confused.
The OnePlus 7 pro with its no hole punch screen and its huge huge support and mod community. I really like the privacy of having a popup front camera. Note that i had to root my phone to get volte.
On the other the note 20 ultra. Damn this phone is one heck of a piece of hardware. I think the version we have is the oxynos. This phone is supported in my country and many others without any modifications or rooting. So here its advantages are, 5g, volte, esim capabilities.
What do u guys think?

I have oneplus7pro, the best phone so far,
but it is a time to move to the newer one,
and pixel 7 pro has the best software support and the easiest way to get root and other things.
however, that useless hole on the middle of the screen is highly annoying.

I have a OnePlus 7T and have been thinking of going back to it, it fully supports 2-SIM w/Different RingTones. Unfortunately, the last OS update for it was v12/12.1 and was pushed out in Nov/Dec 22. The only thing keeping me from going back is the Cameras on the Pixel 7 Pro. If you're doubting to get a Pixel 7 Pro - get the OnePlus 10 Pro instead.

Samsung note 20 is clearly the better device for multiple reasons.

robbbzilla said:
Samsung note 20 is clearly the better device for multiple reasons.
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Those a cool phones, have a coworker using one of them and the stylus pen appears to work great if you're taking inventory on new equipment.

I have personally used many OnePlus phones including the 7 Pro. I have had several Samsung phones all of which were sent back for various flaws too numerous to discuss here. Every OnePlus phone has been excellent for me! I highly recommend that you stay with the OnePlus phone because they just work! YMMV

x111 said:
however, that useless hole on the middle of the screen is highly annoying.
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Genuine question here:
Are you deducing that no face unlock would be a win...? Or do you just greatly prefer the sliding front facing camera (so that it's not always visible)?

NippleSauce said:
Genuine question here:
Are you deducing that no face unlock would be a win...? Or do you just greatly prefer the sliding front facing camera (so that it's not always visible)?
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never used and I genuinely will not ever use face unlock.
I'm using front camera only for video calls and would prefer low quality under display camera somewhere on the very top corner.
It is highly annoying that manufacturers cannot deliver this simple solution.

x111 said:
never used and I genuinely will not ever use face unlock.
I'm using face camera only for video calls and would prefer low quality under display camera somewhere on the very top corner.
I highly annoying that manufacturer cannot deliver this simple solution.
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Gotcha, thanks. Just note that it is *not* a simple solution to put a modern front facing camera at either of the front corners of the display (due to hardware restrictions). The only way to do so in a simple manner would prevent the front facing camera from being utilized properly without holding the phone in landscape mode - which I don't imagine many people would feel comfortable doing =/

x111 said:
never used and I genuinely will not ever use face unlock.
I'm using front camera only for video calls and would prefer low quality under display camera somewhere on the very top corner.
It is highly annoying that manufacturers cannot deliver this simple solution.
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It's not a simple solution because almost no one has your needs. Most people want Face unlock. And they want it to work. They demand more out of a Front Facing Camera than a low quality video call device

HipKat said:
It's not a simple solution because almost no one has your needs. Most people want Face unlock. And they want it to work. They demand more out of a Front Facing Camera than a low quality video call device
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I don't and will never use a front facing camera for unlocking my device, but I have to agree with you. People want a front-facing camera for that face. Unlock in for high quality video calls with family and friends. Also, putting a camera under the display so you can't see it should not be assumed to be "simple."
We often lose sight of what it took to develop and make these devices that we use from the planning, the development, the gathering of the raw materials, the engineering, etc. Are truly marvelous feats. That can be said for almost everything around us that we take for granted! We are very blessed and lucky to be living in this time!

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Most people want Face unlock.
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And from whence did you glean this tidbit?
I never used it, and I have no desire to use it. In fact everyone I know does not use it!
Hmmmm?

jaseman said:
And from whence did you glean this tidbit?
I never used it, and I have no desire to use it. In fact everyone I know does not use it!
Hmmmm?
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The huge number of people that demanded it on the Pixel 6 Pro. Then the number that complained about how slow it was at first.
Feel free to go look at that forum.
What YOU want is not what most people want. And BTW, that camera is barely noticeable. I have the Energy ring and I still barely see it.