[Q] HELP - Moto Triumph does not boot after font installation - Motorola Triumph

So I bought my Motorola Triumph a few days ago rooted it and it worked fine even after many reboots.
So a few days later, I installed new fonts and replaced all the existing ones using Font Installer. After I rebooted, the phone does not boot any more, it does not go beyond the M logo screen
I looked all over the internet but couldn't find something useful to fix the problem.
Plz help me solve this.
I appreciate any tips (note: I am not an expert)
Is it bricked?

Your gonna have to wipe dalvik cache and cache in recovery try to boot again. If that don't work wipe data in recovery and be prepared to set up phone again. Don't worry you wont lose root
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When I had this issue after a different mistake what I did was flash a stock rom. You're going to need a custom recovery to do so. If you don't have clockworkmod recovery on your phone you can find a installation guide and a download link HERE. As for the stock rom and how to flash it look HERE (I used the regular rom and not the deodex version, only because I honestly have no clue of the differnce xD)
Hope this helps.
~SkiZophr3nic~

Huh, just went through the same thing myself
If what is happening to you is what happened to me, you screwed up Clockopia.ttf (or replaced it with a font Android doesn't like) and are now stuck in a boot loop
Here's how to fix it
You need to install a custom recovery (you should have this anyway so you can backup before trying new things)
Here are detailed instructions, it's easy
http://androidforums.com/triumph-all-things-root/421674-clockworkmod-recovery-motorola-triumph.html
Now, at this point, you have a few options:
You can download a stock ROM, flash that, and go back to stock. You will lose everything
You can downloaad stock ROM, and just restore the /system. You do this under backup and restore -> Advanced restore. This will probably get you back up and running and you won't lose any data
You could replace Clockopia.ttf. Attached is a zip file that will do it for you. Put the zip file on your SD card and flash it using CWM (do not use "flash update.zip", use "flash zip file on sdcard" and navigate to it). This will replace Clockopia with the one from stock. Then reboot and you should be up and running

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[Q] I need help, bad.

Ok so my nephew got a hold of my phone and i'm not quite sure what he did. I had my nexus rooted and I guess he tried to install the new OTA, it didn't work so he wiped the memory card and cache etc..
now the phone doesn't go past the bootloader. Is that what it's called? the androids on it and the options are Reboot bootloader, reboot, recovery, and power off.
when I plug the phone in it doesn't get detected. Am i completely screwed here? Please let me know. I tried searching but I realized i'm not quite sure what to even search for. Any and all help is greatley appreciated!!
it doesn't sound like you are screwed but you may have lost all your data not found in the /sdcard. a few questions; did you have a custom recovery installed? and can you get to recovery?
If you can't even get into recovery then you will have to use fastboot to flash your phone. it's not hard just search for the specifics.
Thank you! yeah I have clockwork mod v 3.0.0.5 i was playing around with that and there is a recovery option.
i was also reading about a nandroid backup (lol not too sure what it is). but it looks like i have to go into recovery and load that file. if i click on mount store or whatever it recognizes on my pc. im currently trying that and keeping my fingers crossed. if not ill have to look into reflashing the phone. hope i fix this. thanks a lot though at least i have another option hah!
Look at the top of your phone. It should say something in red text.
Usually this means you've lost the Boot.img or System.img so the phone can't boot. Pushing a custom recovery like Clockwork then flashing a ROM/restoring NAND backup will fix it.
1. Download http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884093
2. Mount it on your computer, enable USB storage in Clockwork Recovery
3. Paste it in there.
4. Unmount
5. Nandroid restore from that file
--- OR ---
1. Download a custom ROM (i recommend cyanogenmod because its awesome.. just my opinion -- flash gapps after CM7).
2. flash the ROM
3. there you go
but if you want OTAs and stuff like that.. use nandroid backup
FIXED!!! thanks dude. i pretty much had this last part figured out but was a bit hesitant to try it. instructions helped a huge deal.
thanks guys. really appreciate the help. saved me a heart attack haha
zephiK said:
1. Download http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884093
2. Mount it on your computer, enable USB storage in Clockwork Recovery
3. Paste it in there.
4. Unmount
5. Nandroid restore from that file
--- OR ---
1. Download a custom ROM (i recommend cyanogenmod because its awesome.. just my opinion -- flash gapps after CM7).
2. flash the ROM
3. there you go
but if you want OTAs and stuff like that.. use nandroid backup
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Glad it's fixed but here's my question.
Your nephew got a hold of your phone.... he takes it and starts WIPING STUFF OFF OF IT?!?!?!?!? WTF!

Rooted i9023, some help needed please!

Ok guys so I have managed to root my i9023 and flash clockwork recovery which was all good, I set about flashing some new roms via rom manager, again, all good.
So now I settle on this cm7 based rom which I love, used anim mod to get some nice transitions, then I used font changer.
All was good, then I decided that the font I was using was a bit ott so I decided to change it again, upon reboot it starts boot looping, bollocks !!!
So I try to get into clockwork recovery, and it seems to have gone back to the stock bootloader, grrrrr
I re flash clockwork, wipe / clear etc... then flash the rom again, but it would not flash, so I went to my backup of stock n flashed that, all good.
I then install rom manager again and flash the rom I liked again, this time no problem, but when it loads up the home button and search button are not working
So i decide on a factory reset, I select wipe everything including sd just to be sure but it comes up "error null"???
So now I wipe the sd manually and then do the reset and it works, ok, I re load everything on from scratch and all is good, but when I installed rom manager it says that clockwork recovery IS NOT installed again
Can anyone here work out from my ramblings WTF is going on???
I dont get why the font changer all of a sudden caused a boot loop, as I had changed font about 15 times with it without issue, also why clockwork recovery will not stick anymore after a reboot, when before it did and I have not changed a thing!
Cheers!!!
Rename install-recovery.sh in system/etc to something else, flash cwm recovery again, this time it'll stick until you install a stock rom again.
Rom manager is causing more problems than it's saving time, hence I don't use it.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
Thanks for the reply, can you go into detail on what exactly I need to do to get clockwork to stick? I still hold noob status!
Thanks!
Also rom manager seems fine, I flashed loads of roms with it with no issue, I also rebooted a few time at least between flashes so I dont get why clockwork suddenly decided to jump ship.
It was the font changer that f&%ked it all up for me, or anim mod (which I wont touch now even tho I miss the wicked transitions).
When using Font Changer, it's better to do a reboot manually instead of selecting Reboot from within the program. That sometimes cause me a boot loop too. But after turning the phone off / on a.k.a. "reboot manually", the phone boots fine.
To elaborate what rentaric said, use Root Explorer and go to /system/etc/, there should be a file named install-recovery.sh. This file is responsible for flashing the stock recovery every time the phone boots. If you rename it to something else e.g. install-recovery.sh.bak then CWM will stick on reboot.
Thanks, but when I get into the /system/etc/ there is not file called install-recovery.sh.
The only .sh in there is init.goldfish.sh
Any ideas???
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Flash cwm rec and either stock or custom rom.
Stock rom incl the .sh you want.
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I've read on these forums that using Clockwork on the I9023 is a no-go. Serves up incompatible ROMs, etc.
BTW, I'm looking to root my I9023. Can the OP please point me to the method he used.
athani said:
I've read on these forums that using Clockwork on the I9023 is a no-go. Serves up incompatible ROMs, etc.
BTW, I'm looking to root my I9023. Can the OP please point me to the method he used.
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LINK: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007782
Please read the whole thread, if I had it would have saved me half a night scratching my head...lol
rentaric said:
Flash cwm rec and either stock or custom rom.
Stock rom incl the .sh you want.
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Yeah I have a custom rom installed, supercm7, but the install-recovery.sh. that I have been told is causing the problem of clockwork disappearing is not in the /system/etc/ folder, so I am asking if there is anything else that could be causing me to have to re flash clockwork via my pc every time I want to change rom?
I will tell you exactly what happens.
1. I go into rom manager
2. download a rom and choose flash rom from sd card
3. it asked if I want to wipe etc, i select yes
4. phone re boots and I get ! with an android
5. I pull the battery, hold volume up n power and boot / connect to my pc
6. re flash clockwork via SDK
7.the phone then load the new rom on its own
Before it would just flash the rom without me having to install clockwork again.
install-recovery.sh is only there if you're using a stock android rom.
"so I am asking if there is anything else that could be causing me to have to re flash clockwork via my pc every time I want to change rom?"
ROM Manager.
It's not a reliable working tool for ME as I'm changing ROMs/kernels on a regular basis and it might not work reliable the one time you need it.
Thanks for that, I may just sack rom manager then.
Its a shame as I flashed several roms with it without issue.
Oh well, loving this supercm7 so gonna stick with it untill an update comes out.
Many thanks to all who have replied, clicking the thanks buttons now!
I had the same problem but i installed a previus recovery and works fine formeforme
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Soft Brick CM9 bootloop- CWM 5.8.4.3 semifail

Currently I am in a soft brick state- I cant remember which CM- 9 either cm-9-20120614-EXPERIMENTAL-skyrocket-alpha5.zip, or cm-9-20120709-NIGHTLY... (I can see that those are the only two I have on my sd card. I am on an ATT GS2 skyrocket
If I boot normally - it stays stuck on the CM9boot screen.
I can use the 3 finger method to boot into CWM 5.8.4.3
While searching for answers I read that this CWM is broken.
Initially I was trying to go back to an earlier recovery. CWM would see the recoveries on the SDcard, but when I tried to recover- it would not mount from the SD card.
I got to CM( by using odin to put an earlier CWM, and superuser on the phone, then installed Rom manager, then used rom manager to flash CWM (via tmobile sgs2) then updated to CWM touch...
When I tried using the CWM to factory restore and cache wipe it starts then hangs I cant install zips from the external SD card, or any recoveries...
I'm figuring worst case - I can go back to ODIN, and do stock recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342348 , then flash the non touch CWM, superuser http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340526, then flash a recovery from my sd card??
Is there something else I might have missed in trying to get back to a functional state without going to odin?
Many thanks in advance for any assistance
Ihab
ihabelnaccash said:
Currently I am in a soft brick state- I cant remember which CM- 9 either cm-9-20120614-EXPERIMENTAL-skyrocket-alpha5.zip, or cm-9-20120709-NIGHTLY... (I can see that those are the only two I have on my sd card. I am on an ATT GS2 skyrocket
If I boot normally - it stays stuck on the CM9boot screen.
I can use the 3 finger method to boot into CWM 5.8.4.3
While searching for answers I read that this CWM is broken.
Initially I was trying to go back to an earlier recovery. CWM would see the recoveries on the SDcard, but when I tried to recover- it would not mount from the SD card.
I got to CM( by using odin to put an earlier CWM, and superuser on the phone, then installed Rom manager, then used rom manager to flash CWM (via tmobile sgs2) then updated to CWM touch...
When I tried using the CWM to factory restore and cache wipe it starts then hangs I cant install zips from the external SD card, or any recoveries...
I'm figuring worst case - I can go back to ODIN, and do stock recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342348 , then flash the non touch CWM, superuser http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340526, then flash a recovery from my sd card??
Is there something else I might have missed in trying to get back to a functional state without going to odin?
Many thanks in advance for any assistance
Ihab
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Hi there,
I recently experienced the same thing, and it was a hassle to fix--but I have got my phone working each time. The downside being that I /had/ to switch over to Odin. Mind you, I am not necessarily experienced with Android, so I can't really say that this is the only way.
At any rate, here's what I did to get it back to normal:
Load up Odin
Put it in download mode -- I assume you know to hold the volume keys and then plug in the USB.
Flash either the ICS leak or the stock 2.3.5 Gingerbread.
You should be back to good. I hope you backed everything up in either Kies or some other resource...else you're in for a hell of a time setting stuff up.
Oh: bad news about the 2.3.5 stock is that, as far as I can tell, you're unable to upgrade to 2.3.6. In turn, you're then unable to update to the official ICS through Kies or OTA. I assume you don't mind, considering you're trying to flash a new rom anyway.
Anyway, I do hope there is some bit of clarity on getting CM9 on the Skyrocket. As of now I have still been unable to do it. Just as you, no matter the settings I try, I end up being stuck at that screen. The only difference between your method and mine is that I completely did mine through CWM...nothing through ROM Manager. (Actually, I believe I tried a few differing methods involving the CWM touch and non-touch...followed many different guides but still no good.)
Hope you get it back to a functioning state. If you get CM9 working on the Skyrocket, I'd appreciate you sending a bit of details on how to do so.
EDIT: I am now on CM9. Through magic, ponies and friendship I have failed to accomplish this feat. But by pure science and the blood of a pony, I have successfully installed CM9.
After you've restored to 2.3.5 or the ICS leak (the one I was on), do the following:
- Grab the recovery-clockwork-touch U27 described below. Flash it.
- Download both the newest CM9 build from their website, as well as Google Apps, and then copy those to your external SD.
- Follow this guide: http://www.teamchopsticks.org/p/install-guide.html. Here's what's relevant to you:
Wipe data/factory reset.
Format /system (mounts and storage->format /system).
Install the CM9 zip from SD card.
Install the gapps zip from SD card.
ONLY IF YOU ARE ON TOUCH CWM RECOVERY: Format /cache (mounts and storage->format /cache)
Reboot. Let it sit for a few minutes after the first boot. Be patient.\
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After ~10 minutes you should be fine. Mine took less, but I'd bet it could take longer. Please follow those directions above EXACTLY. I'll be happy to help you in any way I can if you reply to this thread/ send me a PM.
When I softbricked with the latest CWM I wasn't able to return back since it wouldnt detect my SDcard so I just loaded up odin and used recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.1.3-hercules.tar and was able to read my SDcard again which had all my backups and CM9 files. I have flashed every version of CM9 every since and still using this CWM version and havent had any problems. :good:
All better now- I used ODIN to restore to stock, then used it again to put CWM (non-touch) back on, then added superuser, then just did a restore from SDcard! Muchas Gracias all!
Should I be able to then use a restore of when I had a working CM9 (and backed up with CWM)? Or would I have to do all the cache wiping/ factory reset like I did to install it the first time before using such a recovery? (and I will try that recovery- clockwork touch hercules... latrer tonight from home)
ODIN tar to restore back to factory. I got the boot loop too. Only until after I flashed CM9 then flashed dark side wipe cache only would CM9 work for me. Only on regular CWM though. Try and give that a go.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727

[Q] Odin can't flash stock, boot hangs at logo

Good morning...
Right now, my phone (Galaxy S III on Verizon) will not boot past the "Galaxy S III" logo. Odin will not flash a stock Jelly Bean ROM from StockRoms.net. It gets stuck on the first .img, boot.img. I am downloading a new stock ROM right now and will try a full wipe.
Being silly and ambitious, I do not have a nandroid before it wouldn't boot. On Monday (two days ago) I rooted it. I flashed the VRALEC boot chain, rebooted, flashed ClockworkMod recovery, and installed the SuperSU bootloader and root patch through recovery. I rebooted, allowing CWM to disable the automatic re-flashing of the recovery. With my newly rooted phone, I jumped at trying to install Google Wallet. I went with the route of using Wallet Installer as found on the app store. And, being silly, I checked all three OS options (JB, ICS, and one other). After authorizing the superuser request, my phone almost immediately shut off. I think I made a nandroid through CWM after that, but not one that would run.
I thought it was going to be just build.prop having issues, so I went on a wild quest trying to find a working one online and get it on the device. I worked it into the updater script of my SuperSU patch. Nonetheless, nothing there fixed it. I've tried a bunch of things, including (get this) extracting the stock system.img.ext4 image, mounting it, tarring the device, creating an MD5 for it, and wrapping it up like a nandroid to "restore" with CWM.
I'm thinking I'm going to try and wipe the entire device, maybe leave /recovery, and flash a new I-535 ROM with Odin, see if that works. I don't know if it will. Any advice?
My flash counter is at about 5 after many attempts to get back to something that will boot, so warranty is not an option. Not that they've ever been a whole lot of help anyways.
Sounds like you can still enter recovery. If so adb push a custom ROM to your phone to flash.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
What I have done in the past when flashing a completely stock unrooted ROM through Odin is remove the battery, replace it, boot to stock recovery, and do a factory reset plus wipe cache! This will make my phone boot every time, because flashing a stock makes it boot loop!
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joaquinla1 said:
What I have done in the past when flashing a completely stock unrooted ROM through Odin is remove the battery, replace it, boot to stock recovery, and do a factory reset plus wipe cache! This will make my phone boot every time, because flashing a stock makes it boot loop!
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My phone has CWM recovery on it, but I don't see any reason CWM's factory reset and cache wipe would be any different. I'll give it a shot.
mentose457 said:
Sounds like you can still enter recovery. If so adb push a custom ROM to your phone to flash.
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I may try this if I can't upload one through Odin after a complete wipe, like above. Also, I've only used adb push to upload individual files. How would I use it to push a ROM?
Thanks for all your help. The ROM I'm going to try and flash now is the official stock from stockroms.net. I can't post the link as I'm new but it's I535BLK_nowipe.zip. I'll keep this updated.
sworld said:
I may try this if I can't upload one through Odin after a complete wipe, like above. Also, I've only used adb push to upload individual files. How would I use it to push a ROM?
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When you download a ROM, say Beans 11, it will be a zip file. Push that single file to the internal storage. Do not unzip it. Then boot into recovery and flash the zip.
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mentose457 said:
When you download a ROM, say Beans 11, it will be a zip file. Push that single file to the internal storage. Do not unzip it. Then boot into recovery and flash the zip.
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That makes more sense.
UPDATE: I "factory reset" the data partition and formatted /system and /cache through ClockworkMod. Turned it off, flashed VRALEC through Odin, rebooted, flashed the stock ROM, and then CWM. I'm restoring my nandroid of /data right now, and I'm awaiting an OTA firmware update to bring it up to the latest VZW JB. Then I'll root.. finally.
The thing with Odin is that after you reset you have to do a factory reset through stock recovery to finish the process. Otherwise you will get stuck in a boot loop like you did.
Sent from my GeeEssThree
z06mike said:
The thing with Odin is that after you reset you have to do a factory reset through stock recovery to finish the process. Otherwise you will get stuck in a boot loop like you did.
Sent from my GeeEssThree
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Really? I've only odined once on the s3 and didn't have to wipe. On the fascinate and an older version of Odin after the flash before it booted it would automatically wipe.
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So, the phone is functioning now. Of course, I am running a slightly older version and once I connect to a solid Wi-Fi network I'll request the newest update again.
However, I did already try to download the software update from Verizon, and it seemed to work fine. It rebooted into recovery and CWM seemed to handle it okay, although it claimed the signature was bad. It installed though, rebooted, and updated some app databases. And then, it said the update failed with "Code 401."
Right now I'm not too worried. Hopefully I can apply the update properly soon. It is worth noting that simply using CWM "advanced restore" on only the /data partition, without exactly matching the ROM build, has seemed to leave it hanging at the "4G LTE" logo.
Thanks for all of your help!
The phone will not install a Verizon update with a custom recovery installed.

Trying To Put On a New ROM, Having The Worst Time

My old phone got lost so I am using my Infuse again. I decided to update it since it is still on the old version from when it first came out. I was trying forever to update through the kies software until I realized I rooted it and so this won't work. So then I found out there are roms for way better versions anyways. So I found the Cyanfox rom and I wanted to do that, but I needed to first upgrade to cm9 so I went and downloaded the cm9 file and got the clockworkrecovery, and I installed it.
Now my phone will not turn on, it sits as samsung screen. And if you try to go to recovery it is just a messed up screen with all different colors as if the screen was broken. So now my only option to bea ble to install anything on it is through odin. I can get to download mode fine.
But this damn odin software will not detect my phone for the life of me. It literally will not work. I don't understand. I have spent hours upon hours on this between the past few days. I just want to update my damn phone.
Now I have to leave for work in 30 minutes and my phone doesn't work. This is just great.
How did you install CWM?
Sent from my Asus MeMO Pad 8"
Well I tried clockworkmod through the rom manager app, but I was running the android recovery 3e and it said I needed a modified version of that to be able to install 3e. So I replaced the recovery file with the one I was given, and then I manually installed cwm by naming it update.zip and running it on the recovery
The only problem was that every time I wanted to use cwm, it would go back to android recovery 3e, and I would have to click install again to get it to go into cwm.
Either way, it doesn't work anymore and I just need the damn thing to connect to Odin so I can flash it back.
Are you using a desktop or laptop? If desktop, are you using the USB ports in the back? If laptop, have you tried different USB ports? Maybe try a different computer? I've heard that USB 3.0 doesn't play nicely with ODIN so it's good to find some 2.0 connections. What Windows version? I've heard that Win8 can cause problems. Could also try Heimdall instead of Odin.
Unless I think of anything else, is the cable in good working order (recent successful file transfer)?
Alright. I got things working somewhat. I had to use different drivers for each program for it to be able to detect it. I don't know, its annoying as hell, but it worked when I went back and forth between drivers.
Anyways, I got my device restored. But the whole point of this was that I was trying to get to the KitKat rom(Cyanfox). I am still quite a few steps away from that. I am actually further away than when I started,
This is what originally happened: I had my device rooted(from when I last used it, 1-2 years ago) and had the 3e recovery. So I found out I needed a modified 3e so I could install Clockworkmod. Got that, all was well, and the thing basically got bricked when I went to update to a new rom. It wasn't the kitkat rom, but a CM9 rom that I needed to go to first so that I could then update to kitkat.
Now I got it unbricked, and I updated it using kies. So now I am on gingerbread. So then I rooted it again. So now I have the 3e recovery again, the only problem is when I go to system/bin/ there is no file called recovery, and I can put one there but it does not affect the recovery, it still looks for signed files, meaning I cannot install Clockworkmod.
Not sure what to do...
Seems everyone follows this process (looks like you already did step one) now....
1. Either use Odin or Heimdall One-Click. Follow instruction on how to do it.
2. While phone running install sgs kernel flasher from Market/Google Play.
2a. Copy/transfer Synthesis GB Kernel to your Internal SD card.
2b. Start up sgs kernel flasher and choose it from your Internal SD card. Phone will auto-reboot after done flashing.
2c. Wait a bit while your phone convert to new partition format and activate lagfix. Your CWM recovery version should be 2.5.1.3
3. Reboot phone into CWM Recovery and DISABLE vodoo lagfix and /system lagfix. Reboot once done. Phone will convert partition to old format. If you don't turn the lagfix off the phone will hang at Samsung logo when you install new rom.
4. Prepare your flavor rom/gapp for installation by copying them to your Internal SD card.
4a. Go into CWM Recovery mode and install the rom. You will need to do this twice since the 1st time was just a warning about partition format being different.
4b. Reboot once done. You will need to REMOVE the battery to power down the booting process and put it back in.
4c. Go into the New CWM Recovery and install the rom again since the previous attempt only install the new CWM Recovery.
5. Install Gapp.
6. a. Wipe: Cache / Factory Reset <--- Probably don't need it since it's new install from stock unless you installed stuff. Just to be safe.
b. Wipe: Cache Partition
c. Wipe: Dalvik Cache
7. Reboot
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I never tried step two myself, as I found a flashable download for ODIN that did this for me. But mine is a Rogers phone (not AT&T) so that would not work for you. Hope this helps.
Thanks you so much man. I know that is just copy/paste but I didn't see it, and it works. I was looking in Cyanfox thread, never looked at the Beanstalk thread.
Anyways I am in the process of doing this and it seems like it will work. Appreciate all your help!
Edit: Boom. Worked like a charm. Thanks so much. I am very happy now The funny thing is, half the reason I wanted this is cause everyone was group messaging, and I didn't have that capability anymore when I lost my phone(I was on such an old version). Again thanks so much.

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