[Q] Data toggle widgets.. - T-Mobile LG G2x

So I've done some research on this and couldn't find a clear answer. There are two types of data toggle widgets you can use to turn data on/off . One type will actually enable/disable mobile data. The other type will change the APN settings (for instance, Elixir widget adds/removes '-elixir' suffix to the APN settings) to indirectly control data feed on phone, but the mobile data stays on all the time.
My question is, would these data widgets that alter APN settings save battery? I'm guessing they wouldn't because data actually stays on and the phone would keep searching for data signal...

If the APN is disabled or can not connect because the information is invalid due to a name change, there is no data connection.
Either way, your battery will benefit significantly.

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Adding Data[GPRS/EDGE/3G] Disable option

Hello Guys,
Recently I had Gone out of my Free 6 months Free 100MB of Data per Month,
Means It was like If You use an Android Phone on Airtel Network(India), You Get Free Data Worth 100 MB per Month Till First 6 Months.
So Since 6 Months Were Done, It Started Charging me 30p/50kb & It was too costly for one with an Android Phone.
Even If I Turned On the Phone & then Switch to Wi-Fi, mean while if 2-5 kb even if was cut, It used to charge me 30p.
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So As to Avoid this, In HERO ROM's We had an Option to Disable Data that too through An Widget; But In Cyanogen / Official ROM's We Cant Even Disable Data...
So To Avoid This, I used To make another new APN with Parameters Disabled for Both Name & APN
So All I Want to Say is that Adding an Data Disabled APN Profile to the Current APN List Through which Everyone can Disable Data on Non-Customized ROM's By just Changing the APN to Disabled
there is already at least one application which does this, i use APNdroid which can either be used from the launcher or as a widget
http://code.google.com/p/apndroid/
Just delete all the APNs. I've been doing this since I first bought my G1. I'm on a college campus with WiFi everywhere so I didn't bother paying for data.
WG-Build 8.2
Added it to my ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592466
APNdroid ftw!
anzoshi said:
there is already at least one application which does this, i use APNdroid which can either be used from the launcher or as a widget
http://code.google.com/p/apndroid/
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Why Would you install a Separate App Every time you Flash / Update / Wipe Data, Or As d00m Said Why to Delete The APN & Type it Again Whenever Needed ??
Instead just go to APN Settings & Change the APN to Disabled
Don't You think This will be better ??
Make a new APN, call it "No Internet" fill it with rubbish then pick it as your APN.
As long as it's selected you can't use data.
Personally I have it set to No Internet, and the MMS entry is separate so I can still send/recieve mms when necessary but I don't use per MB data.
Why noyt just pay for Unlimited internet? whats the point of having G1?????
BrutalHoe said:
Why noyt just pay for Unlimited internet? whats the point of having G1?????
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Not all countries have carriers that provide unlimited internet, and even if they do it could be very, very expensive. Until recently we had to pay approx. 80USD for unlimited internet.
APNdroid is not perfect. It disables all APNs, even MMS APNs. This is not ideal as we cant receive MMS. So, the Hero way of doing it is ideal.
APNdroid is not perfect. It disables all APNs, even MMS APNs. This is not ideal as we cant receive MMS. So, the Hero way of doing it is ideal.
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check out the 2.0 dev version of it, it has options for all apn off, only MMS on, or all on
Here's my question. Does putting junk in the apn cause it to try and connect over and over and kill you battery like not having signal? What about with no internet selection? If it does, I could see a need for a better way.
try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541380&highlight=droidwall
it would be very nice if there can be a menu option to disable data when you hold the power button
just like on the magic / hero roms
kiddyfurby said:
it would be very nice if there can be a menu option to disable data when you hold the power button
just like on the magic / hero roms
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Yeah I too feel So...
By the way There is no Need to Discuss So much on this small stuff....
I had just Posted this thread for ROM Dev's So they can include it in their ROM's if they feel its Usefull...
Disable data on boot
Can't you go in to phone diagnostics and disable data on boot
(only works on HTC branded phones)
Instructions for people who don't know:
Dial *#*#4636#*#*
tap phone information
press menu
tap more
and select both disable data connection and disable data on boot...
then you should have a no data connection without installing unneeded apps
Jeeeeshhh
Just Download "Quick Settings" from the market...
Turn off Network Data
Simply
I use Bar Control to place a shortcut of the app in the notification bar for quick access.
Problem solved!
EDIT: OK i didnt read all posts before replying...Droid Wall sounds much simpler. But i like having my settings available without having to hit the HOME button to select said app.

Captivate Turn off Mobile Data?

I noticed there isn't an option like on the HTC devices that let you choose WIFI ONLY or MOBILE + WIFI. It appears they took that out completely on the Samsung Roms? Is there anyway to disable DATA all the time? I'm in a wifi access point 24/7 literally. Sorry folks, only thing im curious about.
I would like to know also. None of the apps I have tried have worked yet.
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Did you try to remove AT&T APN in Settings? It will not be able to connect to 3G without APN.
If you do not want to lose your APN nsettings, create new one, dummy, without any real data inside, and make it default one. Same results.
Another thought, if you have your Wi-Fi turned on all the time, your 3G connection should be switched down automatically. At least it works like this on N1. I am just thinking of bying Captivate, if it will have good custom ROM with Froyo, not taking it with all AT&T bloatware on board and Android 2.1
in the market check out the apps APNdroid and quick settings. Both have toggles for data connection
You can also put it in airplane mode and them just turn wifi on.
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tonysunshine said:
in the market check out the apps APNdroid and quick settings. Both have toggles for data connection
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Thanks dude I picked that up works Great on Captivate. I'd rather use something like that than enabling wifi 24/7 to eat more battery etc.
I've tried downloading a number of free apps (including APNdroid) to turn off mobile data on my Captivate, but none of them seems to work. All the widgets give the impression that it is off, but I can still open the browser and navigate to websites. Am I doing something wrong, or is it just not possible to fully disable mobile data access on a Captivate?
Yeah you're right
@alobotnad
Hey you're right, APNdroid does nothing it doesn't even shut down the 3G icon on my device now and yes it still connects either way like you said.
Apndroid works fine on my captivate!
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hazard96 said:
Apndroid works fine on my captivate!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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You see the 2G icon when you run it?
On my Captivate APNdroid only partially works. Let me explain. If WiFi is on I can disconnect 3G using the APNdroid widget (then if I turn off WiFi and try to surf the web I can't.) However turning 3G back on is more complex. I can turn it back on using the widget if I m connect already to a WiFi network and it will turn 3G on when I turn off WiFi. HOWEVER you must be connected to a WiFi network to turn 3G back on not being connected to a network means the APNdroid button doesn't work. The only solution I found to turn on 3G if I wasn't connected to a WiFi network was to turn on 3G through the APNdroid widget and then restart the phone.
On the other hand I am currently using Juice Defender and their 3G WiFi widget works without having to jump through all those hoops.
@icedfire101
Thanks for the info. I downloaded the free version of JuiceDefender today and so far I am happy with the results.
Samsung Captivate 3G Toggle Solution
After all the digging and searching around, I found two apps that work perfectly on Samsung Captivate for toggling mobile data (3G)
- Juicedefender (it has a widget you can use to toggle 3G quickly)
- SMODA Widget (It doesnt have too many 5 star ratings but works fine on my samsung captivate).
My phone is rooted but I believe it is not a requirement of either of the above apps. Hope this info is useful for other captivate owners.
Most of the other APN / 3G toggle apps on the market try to put a suffix on the APN names in settings. On the samsung captivate this works only with a restart/reboot. Meaning if you disable 3G using the app it would put a suffix like 'disabled' or something to the APN name. But your phone still has the 3G connection using the original APN settings. Only after you restart the phone does it see the 'disabled' APN name and is not able to use and hence no 3G. Vice versa when you want to enable 3G back - needs restart.
I dont know what process the above 2 apps use but they work instantly on my samsung captivate. No need to restart or click a bunch of other settings. They work perfectly and as simple as it should be.
Concepts behind Reliable 3G Toggling on Captivate
First time poster, hope its not immediately dismissed as TLDR.
For the quick-and-dirty just read the “Reliable Data Disabling”.
I am an advocate for understanding concepts. Solutions, hacks and work-arounds have their place, but, if we can understand more about how and why those solutions work, we might be able to repurpose those ideas and use those ideas to make better applications.
Upload and Download of data coming from the cellular network (as opposed to wifi) is likely determined by which network adapter the network connections are making use of. This might be determined by the android sub-system, by looking at the details of currently open sockets; or by lower-level processes looking at the addresses associated with Rx/Tx data. There are several other ways this could be achieved, and I am sure there are countless people who know exactly how that little 3g icon gets on screen; I am merely laying the groundwork to point out that the Captivate (and possibly the Samsung ROM specifically) is apparently more adept at retaining these residual 3g connections than other Android ROMs.
Let’s assume background data opens a series of sockets to communicate with all of the servers that a person’s phone will sync with. By obfuscating the APN like APNDroid does, we are changing the source of the configuration settings, but connections which are "kept-alive" would not check for new settings. This is why those connections remain open after we activate APNDroid. From this idea we derive at least two strategies that work:
Reliable Data Disabling:
Once an APN obfuscator has effectively disabled 3g by spoofing APN information, you can follow up the data-shutdown with the one-two punch of either disabling the cellular radio, or by intelligently terminating connections that don’t match the current APN paradigm. My understanding is there are no apps that take advantage of the latter.
Disabling the radio: Those who have a shortcut-to-activity application, one might feel compelled to use the “Testing” activity to disable the cellular radio, but, the contents of Testing can be dangerous. It is possible to cause problems with your phone using the Phone Information section of "Testing".
The Captivate is nice and fast, enabling flight-mode and disabling it after 10 seconds terminates all residual data-connections 95% of the time.
1. Activate APNDroid (or other APN Obfusctor)
2. Activate Flight Mode (or disable cellular radio some other way)
3 Disable Flight Mode (or reactivate cellular radio)
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In the past 2 weeks I have discovered that when I re-enable my data, the 3g icon comes back right away but my phone makes no attempt to create new connections using the restored settings. The only solution I have found (so far) is to reboot the phone which only works about half the time. I have not stepped through the problem with the android debugger.
Has anyone else noticed this?
i use smartbar , it turns on/off data and does much more.
Best way to turn off 3g data in samsung captivate
To disable data connection.
In phone menu type *#*#4636#*#*
a menu will appear. In that click "phone information".
click the option button (which is the bottom left button you have in phone).
In that go to "more" option.
inside that click "disable data connection".
Thats it 3g icon will not appear up there in phone. but you can use wi-fi.
To enable it .
do the same thing above . but at the final moment you will be shown a menu with option "enable data connection".
clicking it wont immediately enable data connection. you have to restart your phone.
If you dont want to restart your phone .
then go to settings->wireless and networks->mobile networks->access point names.
there should be apn called "ATT WAP".
Click the more option button at the bottom left and click "reset to default".
Thats it. Now your 3g icon will appear at the top (provided wi-fi is turned off).
tonberry1031 said:
1. Activate APNDroid (or other APN Obfusctor)
2. Activate Flight Mode (or disable cellular radio some other way)
3 Disable Flight Mode (or reactivate cellular radio)
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In the past 2 weeks I have discovered that when I re-enable my data, the 3g icon comes back right away but my phone makes no attempt to create new connections using the restored settings. The only solution I have found (so far) is to reboot the phone which only works about half the time. I have not stepped through the problem with the android debugger.
Has anyone else noticed this?
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Good post. You are correct that the captivate will indeed hold onto the valid connection even after modifying the APN. Flight mode toggling will sever the connection forcing it to use the modified settings which should prevent it from reconnecting to data.
The way I disabled my data connection before froyo (all hail froyo data power- button toggle) was to make a shortcut to my APNs and I made a "disabled" APN that was just called disabled. I would have to select it and then toggle flight mode to disable, but reconnecting was as simple and just selecting the real APN and it would immediately reconnect. Never had to restart phone to reconnect, except when using programs from the market.
mettup said:
To disable data connection.
In phone menu type *#*#4636#*#*
a menu will appear. In that click "phone information".
click the option button (which is the bottom left button you have in phone).
In that go to "more" option.
inside that click "disable data connection".
Thats it 3g icon will not appear up there in phone. but you can use wi-fi.
To enable it .
do the same thing above . but at the final moment you will be shown a menu with option "enable data connection".
clicking it wont immediately enable data connection. you have to restart your phone.
If you dont want to restart your phone .
then go to settings->wireless and networks->mobile networks->access point names.
there should be apn called "ATT WAP".
Click the more option button at the bottom left and click "reset to default".
Thats it. Now your 3g icon will appear at the top (provided wi-fi is turned off).
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So how well does this work?
I'm going to Europe tomorrow and I don't want to be eaten alive on roaming data.
Thanks,
Super
Quick Settings in market, works great on my captivate.
Superguy said:
So how well does this work?
I'm going to Europe tomorrow and I don't want to be eaten alive on roaming data.
Thanks,
Super
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Depending on what countries you're visiting and for how long, you might consider getting a prepaid local SIM card from that country. I've done that in a couple of different countries and was able to get prepaid data deals for a $2-$3 a day. Will vary greatly depending on country and carrier. And, of course, your phone will have to be carrier-unlocked to use the SIM card.

[Q] Android System showing Data Sent&Received even when all data networks are off?

[Q] Android System showing Data Sent&Received even when all data networks are off?
I'm sorry, this topic has probably been brought up before, but Im just wondering since my data network connection is disabled even from my mobile operator it self. No 3G or GPRS are working, APN name has been fundled with, so therefore there is no way for my phone to be connected to the internet unless I use Wifi.
On the 2.3, the android system lists a whole list of system apps associated with it such as Crash Monitor, SemcHDMI control service, customized settings, diagnostic tool, download agent, account and sync setting, status bar, fmrx services, google backup transport etc and etc, and it shows that there are Data Sent and Data Received in which this number just increases out of no where. Now I'm probably paranoid by the word Data Sent and Received, because I doubled check with my mobile operator and it is assured that my data connections are all disconnected, from operator and from my phone as well.
So excatly where are these system apps sending these datas to? and where are these system apps receiving their datas from?
Wifi's not on, yet these numbers continue to increase. Not a whole lot, but it increases. Traffic Info application also shows no data usage from internet, but data usage from system apps.
Can anyone confirm this?
SE Xperia Arc user

Disabling 3G on a TF101G to save battery

G'day all...
I have a TF101G and I have noticed that the mobile broadband seens to be consistently at the top of the battery usage list even when I have mobile data disabled and (get this) even when I have the SIM card removed.
My TF101G spends most of its life within WiFi range and I only need the 3G when it's out of the house.
Does anyone have any idea how to disable the mobile broadband transmission? Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems dumb that it's still using battery to check in even when I tell it not to use the 3G.
Thanks,
Alex.
How have you disabled it?
I've seen many widgets/apps that say they're capable of disabling APN connections but the only thing they do is modify the APN connection name, so the 3G is still active but it never connects due to APN's changed name. The problem is that since 3G is not disabled at all, it might still use battery.
If you disabled from System > Wireless and Network > Mobile Network > Use packed data then 3G is turned off for sure. Also any system app that could manage that should be able to enable/disable that option.
Thanks for the reply.
I did actually try changing the APN as well as removing the SIM card. I still see continuous battery usage for Mobile standby at the top of my usage graphs in Aplications > Battery use.
I don't actually have the "Use packed data" option under System > Wireless and Network > Mobile Network - I only have Data enabled, Data roaming, Access Point Names, Use only 2G networks and Network operators.
I can always to to flight mode for no connectivity, but I can't for the life of me figure out how I can make the TF101G WiFi-only. Surely there must be some way of doing it. Maybe the forthcoming ICS update will fix it - we live in hope.
DarthWombat said:
I don't actually have the "Use packed data" option under System > Wireless and Network > Mobile Network - I only have Data enabled, Data roaming, Access Point Names, Use only 2G networks and Network operators.
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Sorry, I was refering to "Data enabled". If "Data enabled" is toggled, 3g is enabled despite the APN name's. Maybe you could try to disable "Data enabled" and see if it doesn't consume more battery.
First thing I tried!
No joy there.
Problem solved.
See post by Notdawa in http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...p/16657-no-firmware-update-me.html#post149760
It's simply a matter of putting it in flight mode and then manually enabling WiFi. It works a treat!
I have now TW 9.2.2.4 FW and still if i do flightmode and then wifi on, i see cell standy as the biggest power consumer . to me it seems somehow the modem hardware is not properly switched off. anyone knows what modem chipset it is? or what could be the reason why this behavior?
If i do reboot with 3G modem off (so flightmode but with WiFi on), i get 'cell standby' as big power consumer after few hours. But reboot with 3G on (but no mobile data enabled) and also WiFi connected, then goingto flightmode + WiFi does not show 'cell standby' in battery chart . I had many problems and reboots with first ICS {9.2.2.3}, hopefully now i can get long and controlled battery life and no empty battery beeps in middle of night.

[Q] Cellular data usage when Mobile data is disabled

Hi there.
I have been recently working outside my home country and I disable my mobile data as soon as I reach the airport.
My Nexus 5, now with 4.4.3 reports 0 bytes of data when I am in roaming and I never got a notification or any sort of activity that may point to a data access being made, yet my service provider sent a big bill with many 10KB accesses during the time I was in roaming.
The same problem might exist while at my home country, but since I have a few hundreds of MB to use each month, I can't really tell.
Anyone else is facing the same problem?
I will temporarily ask my service provider to block my data access while in roaming, but I would like to understand if that is some sort of Android bug or a service provider charging what it shouldn't.
I've looked a bit more into this issue and I suspect that it was the Google Location Services that try to obtain the positioning from the cellular mobile network.
I've installed the Network Monitor Mini and it showed me a few times that process has a residual network usage.
Since I'm on Wifi most of the time, I assumed that network usage was on the WiFi but now I understand that being connected to the WiFi doesn't mean that the phone cannot use cellular data.
Can anyone that uses little Mobile Data (disabled in the Settings most of the time) confirm that the eventually you get some cellular data charged if you have the Location Settings set to use the mobile networks?
Sorry for the monologue, but this might be useful for someone that may face this problem in the feature.
After being more attentive to the network usage pointed by Network Monitor Mini, I think I found the culprit.
I've spent the last weeks with mobile data completely off, using only WiFi, yet on a couple of occasions I noticed Network Monitor Mini reporting minimal network usage being made when no know network WiFi was around.
As the screenshot shows, the WiFi is not connected to any known access point, yet some data was being uploaded by one of those processes.
I think the phone is trying to ping the cellular antenna for a location, thus accounting for mobile data access.
I've disabled the location and I will keep monitoring the data usage to see if that is the real culprit. Also noticed that Network Monitor Mini has a traffic breakdown mode per interface. I'll use that to distinguish wifi and cellular data.
why not just disable data complete, a data signal wont even appear because it wont be connected to data? go to main settings, more, mobile networks, data enabled.. now uncheck it and your data connection will disappear, but your phone connection will stay.
edit.. and if you have root, you can install the disable service app, then you can disable the 5 differing types of location services that your phone uses.
Hi simms22.
Like I said on the first post, that was the first thing I did in the airport. I'm not saying simply disabling roaming data, I disabled data completely.
The point I'm trying to show is that even with mobile data disabled, in roaming I still got several tiny chunks of data registered by my operator and I occasionally noticed Network Monitor Mini showing 0.1KB upload, as shown in the screenshot.
Regards.
VuDuCuRSe said:
Hi simms22.
Like I said on the first post, that was the first thing I did in the airport. I'm not saying simply disabling roaming data, I disabled data completely.
The point I'm trying to show is that even with mobile data disabled, in roaming I still got several tiny chunks of data registered by my operator and I occasionally noticed Network Monitor Mini showing 0.1KB upload, as shown in the screenshot.
Regards.
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well, a little bit of data can be transferred through the phone signal(sms). do you have disabled in wifi settings, bottom right three dots, advanced, scanning always available? that uses the wifi to scan for location even when wifi is off, maybe they do that with the mobile signal as well. anyways, about a month ago, google location services kept waking my device non stop, so i completely disabled them in the google play services using the disable service app(i have root). now google never checks for my location unless i let it.
Hey.
I disabled the Location services in Settings, restricted the background data and so far it has been three days with no data accesses registered by my provider.
I don't think the background data is responsible for the traffic so I will wait a couple more days and then re-enable it.
I think the Location services are useful and I do like those small things it offers like weather prediction for where you are, where you parked the car, time to go home/work and movie times near you. The only problem is that it doesn't seem to respect the Mobile data status.
Just raised an issue in the AOSP tracker
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=72332&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
If you share the concern on this problem, please star it to give visibility.
VuDuCuRSe said:
Just raised an issue in the AOSP tracker
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=72332&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
If you share the concern on this problem, please star it to give visibility.
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It also happens with me but I have a Galaxy S4. It's a huge defect to alow location to consume mobile data even with the data roaming and mobile data disabled.

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