I noticed there isn't an option like on the HTC devices that let you choose WIFI ONLY or MOBILE + WIFI. It appears they took that out completely on the Samsung Roms? Is there anyway to disable DATA all the time? I'm in a wifi access point 24/7 literally. Sorry folks, only thing im curious about.
I would like to know also. None of the apps I have tried have worked yet.
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Did you try to remove AT&T APN in Settings? It will not be able to connect to 3G without APN.
If you do not want to lose your APN nsettings, create new one, dummy, without any real data inside, and make it default one. Same results.
Another thought, if you have your Wi-Fi turned on all the time, your 3G connection should be switched down automatically. At least it works like this on N1. I am just thinking of bying Captivate, if it will have good custom ROM with Froyo, not taking it with all AT&T bloatware on board and Android 2.1
in the market check out the apps APNdroid and quick settings. Both have toggles for data connection
You can also put it in airplane mode and them just turn wifi on.
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tonysunshine said:
in the market check out the apps APNdroid and quick settings. Both have toggles for data connection
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Thanks dude I picked that up works Great on Captivate. I'd rather use something like that than enabling wifi 24/7 to eat more battery etc.
I've tried downloading a number of free apps (including APNdroid) to turn off mobile data on my Captivate, but none of them seems to work. All the widgets give the impression that it is off, but I can still open the browser and navigate to websites. Am I doing something wrong, or is it just not possible to fully disable mobile data access on a Captivate?
Yeah you're right
@alobotnad
Hey you're right, APNdroid does nothing it doesn't even shut down the 3G icon on my device now and yes it still connects either way like you said.
Apndroid works fine on my captivate!
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Apndroid works fine on my captivate!
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You see the 2G icon when you run it?
On my Captivate APNdroid only partially works. Let me explain. If WiFi is on I can disconnect 3G using the APNdroid widget (then if I turn off WiFi and try to surf the web I can't.) However turning 3G back on is more complex. I can turn it back on using the widget if I m connect already to a WiFi network and it will turn 3G on when I turn off WiFi. HOWEVER you must be connected to a WiFi network to turn 3G back on not being connected to a network means the APNdroid button doesn't work. The only solution I found to turn on 3G if I wasn't connected to a WiFi network was to turn on 3G through the APNdroid widget and then restart the phone.
On the other hand I am currently using Juice Defender and their 3G WiFi widget works without having to jump through all those hoops.
@icedfire101
Thanks for the info. I downloaded the free version of JuiceDefender today and so far I am happy with the results.
Samsung Captivate 3G Toggle Solution
After all the digging and searching around, I found two apps that work perfectly on Samsung Captivate for toggling mobile data (3G)
- Juicedefender (it has a widget you can use to toggle 3G quickly)
- SMODA Widget (It doesnt have too many 5 star ratings but works fine on my samsung captivate).
My phone is rooted but I believe it is not a requirement of either of the above apps. Hope this info is useful for other captivate owners.
Most of the other APN / 3G toggle apps on the market try to put a suffix on the APN names in settings. On the samsung captivate this works only with a restart/reboot. Meaning if you disable 3G using the app it would put a suffix like 'disabled' or something to the APN name. But your phone still has the 3G connection using the original APN settings. Only after you restart the phone does it see the 'disabled' APN name and is not able to use and hence no 3G. Vice versa when you want to enable 3G back - needs restart.
I dont know what process the above 2 apps use but they work instantly on my samsung captivate. No need to restart or click a bunch of other settings. They work perfectly and as simple as it should be.
Concepts behind Reliable 3G Toggling on Captivate
First time poster, hope its not immediately dismissed as TLDR.
For the quick-and-dirty just read the “Reliable Data Disabling”.
I am an advocate for understanding concepts. Solutions, hacks and work-arounds have their place, but, if we can understand more about how and why those solutions work, we might be able to repurpose those ideas and use those ideas to make better applications.
Upload and Download of data coming from the cellular network (as opposed to wifi) is likely determined by which network adapter the network connections are making use of. This might be determined by the android sub-system, by looking at the details of currently open sockets; or by lower-level processes looking at the addresses associated with Rx/Tx data. There are several other ways this could be achieved, and I am sure there are countless people who know exactly how that little 3g icon gets on screen; I am merely laying the groundwork to point out that the Captivate (and possibly the Samsung ROM specifically) is apparently more adept at retaining these residual 3g connections than other Android ROMs.
Let’s assume background data opens a series of sockets to communicate with all of the servers that a person’s phone will sync with. By obfuscating the APN like APNDroid does, we are changing the source of the configuration settings, but connections which are "kept-alive" would not check for new settings. This is why those connections remain open after we activate APNDroid. From this idea we derive at least two strategies that work:
Reliable Data Disabling:
Once an APN obfuscator has effectively disabled 3g by spoofing APN information, you can follow up the data-shutdown with the one-two punch of either disabling the cellular radio, or by intelligently terminating connections that don’t match the current APN paradigm. My understanding is there are no apps that take advantage of the latter.
Disabling the radio: Those who have a shortcut-to-activity application, one might feel compelled to use the “Testing” activity to disable the cellular radio, but, the contents of Testing can be dangerous. It is possible to cause problems with your phone using the Phone Information section of "Testing".
The Captivate is nice and fast, enabling flight-mode and disabling it after 10 seconds terminates all residual data-connections 95% of the time.
1. Activate APNDroid (or other APN Obfusctor)
2. Activate Flight Mode (or disable cellular radio some other way)
3 Disable Flight Mode (or reactivate cellular radio)
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In the past 2 weeks I have discovered that when I re-enable my data, the 3g icon comes back right away but my phone makes no attempt to create new connections using the restored settings. The only solution I have found (so far) is to reboot the phone which only works about half the time. I have not stepped through the problem with the android debugger.
Has anyone else noticed this?
i use smartbar , it turns on/off data and does much more.
Best way to turn off 3g data in samsung captivate
To disable data connection.
In phone menu type *#*#4636#*#*
a menu will appear. In that click "phone information".
click the option button (which is the bottom left button you have in phone).
In that go to "more" option.
inside that click "disable data connection".
Thats it 3g icon will not appear up there in phone. but you can use wi-fi.
To enable it .
do the same thing above . but at the final moment you will be shown a menu with option "enable data connection".
clicking it wont immediately enable data connection. you have to restart your phone.
If you dont want to restart your phone .
then go to settings->wireless and networks->mobile networks->access point names.
there should be apn called "ATT WAP".
Click the more option button at the bottom left and click "reset to default".
Thats it. Now your 3g icon will appear at the top (provided wi-fi is turned off).
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1. Activate APNDroid (or other APN Obfusctor)
2. Activate Flight Mode (or disable cellular radio some other way)
3 Disable Flight Mode (or reactivate cellular radio)
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In the past 2 weeks I have discovered that when I re-enable my data, the 3g icon comes back right away but my phone makes no attempt to create new connections using the restored settings. The only solution I have found (so far) is to reboot the phone which only works about half the time. I have not stepped through the problem with the android debugger.
Has anyone else noticed this?
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Good post. You are correct that the captivate will indeed hold onto the valid connection even after modifying the APN. Flight mode toggling will sever the connection forcing it to use the modified settings which should prevent it from reconnecting to data.
The way I disabled my data connection before froyo (all hail froyo data power- button toggle) was to make a shortcut to my APNs and I made a "disabled" APN that was just called disabled. I would have to select it and then toggle flight mode to disable, but reconnecting was as simple and just selecting the real APN and it would immediately reconnect. Never had to restart phone to reconnect, except when using programs from the market.
mettup said:
To disable data connection.
In phone menu type *#*#4636#*#*
a menu will appear. In that click "phone information".
click the option button (which is the bottom left button you have in phone).
In that go to "more" option.
inside that click "disable data connection".
Thats it 3g icon will not appear up there in phone. but you can use wi-fi.
To enable it .
do the same thing above . but at the final moment you will be shown a menu with option "enable data connection".
clicking it wont immediately enable data connection. you have to restart your phone.
If you dont want to restart your phone .
then go to settings->wireless and networks->mobile networks->access point names.
there should be apn called "ATT WAP".
Click the more option button at the bottom left and click "reset to default".
Thats it. Now your 3g icon will appear at the top (provided wi-fi is turned off).
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So how well does this work?
I'm going to Europe tomorrow and I don't want to be eaten alive on roaming data.
Thanks,
Super
Quick Settings in market, works great on my captivate.
Superguy said:
So how well does this work?
I'm going to Europe tomorrow and I don't want to be eaten alive on roaming data.
Thanks,
Super
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Depending on what countries you're visiting and for how long, you might consider getting a prepaid local SIM card from that country. I've done that in a couple of different countries and was able to get prepaid data deals for a $2-$3 a day. Will vary greatly depending on country and carrier. And, of course, your phone will have to be carrier-unlocked to use the SIM card.
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Pretty self explanatory this one - is there any way of knowing whether your mobile internet connection (3G) or WiFi is being used in, for example, a browser session? Just don't want to make the mistake of looking at YouTube on the phone, meaning to use the home WiFi, and end up using my 3G by accident, and paying through the nose for extra feed.
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Pretty self explanatory this one - is there any way of knowing whether your mobile internet connection (3G) or WiFi is being used in, for example, a browser session? Just don't want to make the mistake of looking at YouTube on the phone, meaning to use the home WiFi, and end up using my 3G by accident, and paying through the nose for extra feed.
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The icons on your task bar should indicate if you have a active data connection.
Or, you can use Spb Wireless Monitor (which you need to purchase). It produces reports telling you which software uses which connections and the amount of data transferred.
In a discussion I had with HTC Tech Support, they told me that wifi, when enabled, over-rides the cellular data. I'm not sure if this just applies to the settings or always. Hopefully, someone can provide a definitive answer.
Yes that is correct, if WIFI is enabled you WILL NOT have a cellular data connection.
Umm. There is a wifi icon in the taskbar o.o and a signal icon also.....whichever is there means it's active and if wifi is there, your data will not be active, only wifi.
What all you are saying is true but some applications still use the data network even if wifi is turned on and connected it seems. I have the same issue(i don't have a data plan with my fuze since my college has wifi everywhere). But things like weather and other native apps on the phone will just turn on the 3g network and stat using data instead of wifi.
if a device is transfering data over gprs/3g whatever
it show arrows moving in the signal str icon
otherwise it use wifi
Applications can choose to use a certain connection if they are programmed to do so, windows only gives each one a type of 'ranking', the fastest connection having the highest ranking and being the one an application is to use by default, but the application can override this and choose whatever connection it likes. This ranking is called the "Interface Metric" if you'd like to learn more about it.
There's an HTC program called 'bytecounter' that monitors the SMDx: ports in the system, which are the ports the system uses for data.. in bytecounter you will see the values increase if an application is using data over cellular network. let me know if you'd like me to upload it.
Umm. There is a wifi icon in the taskbar o.o and a signal icon also.....whichever is there means it's active and if wifi is there, your data will not be active, only wifi.
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Well that wasn't particularly helpful. I too have made the same assumption, but the question asked if there was any way to make sure.
windows only gives each one a type of 'ranking', the fastest connection having the highest ranking and being the one an application is to use by default, but the application can override this and choose whatever connection it likes
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Well that was the kind of answer I was looking for, and is particularly pertinent in my case, as my connection through my mobile provider is about as fast (or maybe even faster) than my fixed line connection at home. A rather bizarre situation, but such is the advancement of Australian broadband infrastructure.
The last couple of times I have used it, I have taken to turning off the phone connection so that only WiFi is running, and then using the internet. It would be good if you can upload the byetcounter program, seems like a free (?) version of the software programatix mentioned.
Here ya go!
Maybe this is just me, but when I try to unzip that file, nothing comes up....?
lol, i always forget to remove the hidden attribute.. let me go ahead and fix that..
Edit: fixed
Newer Windows Live (including the one that come with Touch Pro) will always dial-up the 3G/GPRS connection when checking for email in Messaging. But if you are checking in Windows Live, most of the time it doesn't dial-up but sometimes, it does.
So far that is the only program that I know of behaves like this. I contacted Microsoft regarding this and they keep asking me to contact my celular provider for help. In other word, they are not helping (or do not understand the problem).
Anyway I solved the problem by changing the Connections setting to "My Work Network" for Internet. The catch is, if I really want to use 3G/GPRS, I'll have to change the setting to my celular 3G/GPRS connection.
Or you could use the nodata application from modaco and disable whenever you like the cellular 3g connection just to be sure you are using wifi.When you are away from wifi networks you can in a matter of 2 clicks reenable the cellular 3g connection...
This phone is bugging me. ill be home, where I have low/no service, ill try to connect to wifi, but the phone will try to connect to gprs/3g. then sometimes ill have service and it wont connect at all. IE will work but not opera or some other programs. WIFI is searching 24/7 telling when theres a connection. anyone else have this problem?
I want to leave wifi on but only connect to networks registered.
I want if there's no 3g connect to wifi if available.
seems simple to me. possible? maybe i need to change some settings?
There is "no data" but that don't really solve the problem.
I have expereinced the same, especialy if I have low signal then the gprs/3g connections starts up.
It would be neat with an application that gave you a pop up where you had to confirm that you want to connect thru anything other than wifi or bluetooth.
I have the nodata program on my phone and it works great. Search the forum for the program and if you cant find it tell me and I'll attach the .cab
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I have the nodata program on my phone and it works great. Search the forum for the program and if you cant find it tell me and I'll attach the .cab
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whats the program do
http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=nodata+pocketpc
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whats the program do
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NoData is probably not what you're looking for. It will allow you to disable traffic through a selected data connection. But it must be enabled / disabled manually. Sounds like you're looking for something that will toggle automatically, giving priority / preference to your WiFi connection when it's available.
There's a program called CommMgrPro that will do what you're looking for. That is, enable and disable connections based on things like cell tower location, detection of WiFi, etc. There's also a forum page for the program here.
A program called Bandswitch (at the same site as CommMgr Pro) will do similar to NoData, except it will let you choose enable / disable based on Time of day presets.
Also here in the forum you can find a program called WifiLocations. It will do similar to the first program above above. If you search the forum there are a few more (some free) programs that will do what you're looking for. Good luck!
My problem with the nodata program is that I can't seem to disable gprs/3g traffic while using wifi. It might be that I have an old version, but I have found many times that even with nodata running in the background with disabled data traffic, it still connects me if I loose my wifi connection.
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NoData is probably not what you're looking for. It will allow you to disable traffic through a selected data connection. But it must be enabled / disabled manually. Sounds like you're looking for something that will toggle automatically, giving priority / preference to your WiFi connection when it's available.
There's a program called CommMgrPro that will do what you're looking for. That is, enable and disable connections based on things like cell tower location, detection of WiFi, etc. There's also a forum page for the program here.
A program called Bandswitch (at the same site as CommMgr Pro) will do similar to NoData, except it will let you choose enable / disable based on Time of day presets.
Also here in the forum you can find a program called WifiLocations. It will do similar to the first program above above. If you search the forum there are a few more (some free) programs that will do what you're looking for. Good luck!
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thank you very much for the info. I think I sorta fixed it pretty well on my own.Still need the toggle off and on though.
I hard resetted it with out the bloat. then configured my interenet like this:
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=110811
then i went to sounds/notifications in settings, i think, and disabled the wifi notification.
seems to work pretty well.
i take back what i said.it goes in and out. I had 3g service and it said I was connected to media net, but it wouldnt let me get to the net. this phone is a pain when it comes to internet and gps
what do you guys have for internet settings under start>settings>connections>connections>advanced>select network
what setup do i use in the first in the first box and the which setup in the second.
mine 1st media net
2nd my work network (whatever that is)
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i take back what i said.it goes in and out. I had 3g service and it said I was connected to media net, but it wouldnt let me get to the net. this phone is a pain when it comes to internet and gps
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Edit your MEdiaNet connection settings so your proxy is DISABLED. If it is enabled your WiFi will try to use it too - which is not possible. Unchecking the proxy will have have no discernible impact to your browsing speed when you are using the AT&T data connection.
aonavy said:
what do you guys have for internet settings under start>settings>connections>connections>advanced>select network
what setup do i use in the first in the first box and the which setup in the second.
mine 1st media net
2nd my work network (whatever that is)
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You can safely set both to MEdiaNet. If you have WiFi enabled and you're connected to your access point it will take precedent over your GPRS (Edge) or UMTS (3G) connection. It is not necessary to disable the AT&T data connection if you are connected and browsing over your WiFi connection. As soon as you turn off or lose your WiFi signal, your phone will go back to using the AT&T data connection.
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Edit your MEdiaNet connection settings so your proxy is DISABLED. If it is enabled your WiFi will try to use it too - which is not possible. Unchecking the proxy will have have no discernible impact to your browsing speed when you are using the AT&T data connection.
You can safely set both to MEdiaNet. If you have WiFi enabled and you're connected to your access point it will take precedent over your GPRS (Edge) or UMTS (3G) connection. It is not necessary to disable the AT&T data connection if you are connected and browsing over your WiFi connection. As soon as you turn off or lose your WiFi signal, your phone will go back to using the AT&T data connection.
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okay..thanks for the post.
set media net for both and disable proxy and I should be okay correct?
2 questions:
how do I disable the the proxy? delete wap.cingular from the settings? click disable proxy icon?
also i heard if you have one of these disable you cant use your mms?
up up up and away...
For all the people that need their battery for a day or more I wanted to add the instructions on how to disable 3G.
Go into the dialer and type in *#*#197328640#*#*
Select "Debug Screen" on the menu
then hit "Phone Control"
then "UE State Control"
"Change RAT to GSM" will turn off 3G access and will leave your DATA on 2G.
This will save lots of battery especially for those who have low 3G signals.
Please note that rebooting the phone or even turning on "Airplane mode" will reverse these changes.
This means you will have to change the settings again (this is also the fastest way to cancel the changes and go back to 3G).
Thanks a ton for this. I'm sure it was in another thread, but I always saw mixed reports and hadn't tried it myself.
I have a 3-4 bar EDGE signal in my office, but only a 0-3 3G signal, so this will be a lifesaver.
However, as soon as there's a ROM that adds the force 2G option that should be there back into settings (and removes any other locks AT&T put in the software), I'll probably go that direction just because it is a pretty clunky way to do something that should be an option as is.
I have something to add to this. If you use a reboot or airplane mode to turn 3G back on, the next time you go to turn 3G off, you may need to re-enable 3G (WCDMA) before changing back to GSM. Apparently, the setting didn't get changed in the debug menu even though I got switched to 3G, so I had to put it back on 3G first.
Is this still the only way to disable 3G but leave 2G enabled on the Captivate? The apps in the Market are still all or nothing (3G or no data connection at all).
Thanks!
3G, 2G disabling?
Is there a way to disable the 3G/2G altogether but still use wireless?
You can always put it in airplane mode and then turn WiFi on if you don't want to use the AT&T network at all.
G'day all...
I have a TF101G and I have noticed that the mobile broadband seens to be consistently at the top of the battery usage list even when I have mobile data disabled and (get this) even when I have the SIM card removed.
My TF101G spends most of its life within WiFi range and I only need the 3G when it's out of the house.
Does anyone have any idea how to disable the mobile broadband transmission? Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems dumb that it's still using battery to check in even when I tell it not to use the 3G.
Thanks,
Alex.
How have you disabled it?
I've seen many widgets/apps that say they're capable of disabling APN connections but the only thing they do is modify the APN connection name, so the 3G is still active but it never connects due to APN's changed name. The problem is that since 3G is not disabled at all, it might still use battery.
If you disabled from System > Wireless and Network > Mobile Network > Use packed data then 3G is turned off for sure. Also any system app that could manage that should be able to enable/disable that option.
Thanks for the reply.
I did actually try changing the APN as well as removing the SIM card. I still see continuous battery usage for Mobile standby at the top of my usage graphs in Aplications > Battery use.
I don't actually have the "Use packed data" option under System > Wireless and Network > Mobile Network - I only have Data enabled, Data roaming, Access Point Names, Use only 2G networks and Network operators.
I can always to to flight mode for no connectivity, but I can't for the life of me figure out how I can make the TF101G WiFi-only. Surely there must be some way of doing it. Maybe the forthcoming ICS update will fix it - we live in hope.
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I don't actually have the "Use packed data" option under System > Wireless and Network > Mobile Network - I only have Data enabled, Data roaming, Access Point Names, Use only 2G networks and Network operators.
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Sorry, I was refering to "Data enabled". If "Data enabled" is toggled, 3g is enabled despite the APN name's. Maybe you could try to disable "Data enabled" and see if it doesn't consume more battery.
First thing I tried!
No joy there.
Problem solved.
See post by Notdawa in http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...p/16657-no-firmware-update-me.html#post149760
It's simply a matter of putting it in flight mode and then manually enabling WiFi. It works a treat!
I have now TW 9.2.2.4 FW and still if i do flightmode and then wifi on, i see cell standy as the biggest power consumer . to me it seems somehow the modem hardware is not properly switched off. anyone knows what modem chipset it is? or what could be the reason why this behavior?
If i do reboot with 3G modem off (so flightmode but with WiFi on), i get 'cell standby' as big power consumer after few hours. But reboot with 3G on (but no mobile data enabled) and also WiFi connected, then goingto flightmode + WiFi does not show 'cell standby' in battery chart . I had many problems and reboots with first ICS {9.2.2.3}, hopefully now i can get long and controlled battery life and no empty battery beeps in middle of night.
I am using Avast on 3 different stock rooted phones and it's anti-theft features are pretty nice. only problem is to get a GPS fix it not only needs the GPS enabled, but also needs a data connection, either connected wifi or 3/4g to recieve the coordinates back at their server (at least in my short testing that seems to be the case). Avast anti-theft has the ability to reboot the phone, so Is there a way I can get my phones to enable 3g by default at startup?
Also, if their is better anti theft with location capabilities please feel free to chime in, but it must be able to give proper location information no matter what the state of the data connection or be able to enable data when pinged for its location.
Any help is appreciated.
Phones (Ting network, a Sprint MVNO):
Samsung Epic 4g Touch SPH-D710 stock rooted
Samsung Epic slider SPH-D700 stock rooted
Lg Marquee LS855 stock rooted
Sorry i didn't simply edit my post. Figured a reply would help to bump it up the threads.
In further testing (on the Epic Touch) it appears avast auto enables wifi, but does not enable 3g. Avast gives me ability to disable/enable a "forced data connection" when it is sent a locate command. When this 'forced data" option is enabled and a command is sent it only enables wifi, not 3g.
I have turned my wifi router off, disabled my wifi and 3g on the handset, sent the appropriate commands and still 3g never enables. I had hoped that when avast triggers the "forced data connection" that since i have no wifi signal available it would enable wifi, never connect to a wifi signal and fall back to 3g but this just isn't the case. wifi turns on, never connects and 3g never enables.
I would presume that if i left the "forced data connection" option of avast disabled i could simply send a command to reboot the phone, the reboot would turn on 3g (provided someone knows how to make it happen), then I could send locate command and this would be an acceptable work around. If anyone understands what I'm getting at and knows how to set up my phone so 3g enables on bootup that would be a huge help.
I have yet to test the avast features on the other phones, but am presuming they will operate in the same fashion and will need the same work around to be implemented. The whole reason for all of this is that I don't have unlimited data and don't want to leave my 3g on all the time to be able to locate my phone in the event of loss. kinda useless if I lose the phone and have no way to engage the features needed to track and recover it.
Again, all help and suggestions greatly appreciated