Will leaving my standalone GPS on all the time actually drain my battery, or does it only get powered on when something requests it?
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I have noticed mine searching for a GPS signal when it needs too. Doesn't seem to be on all the time. I am getting 15+ hours out of my battery.
JihadSquad said:
Will leaving my standalone GPS on all the time actually drain my battery, or does it only get powered on when something requests it?
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Turning off GPS to save battery is one of the biggest myths of the Android world It only uses GPS when an application requests it. Otherwise, it doesn't use it at all. All you are doing with that toggle is making it unavailable to apps.
I have noticed that Facebook likes to fire up the GPS every time I open the app. Annoying, but it is also the only app I use that doesn't "need" GPS that tries to use it. Any way to disable that?
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For the entire time I owned a smartphone (two years), everyone says to disable GPS to save battery and enable it only when you need it. I been doing this the entire time and just now I read a post somewhere in these forums that only when a program needs GPS, it'll affect battery life. If this is the case, then I'll just leave GPS enabled.
So the question is, if GPS is left enabled but no program uses it, is battery life affect?
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For the entire time I owned a smartphone (two years), everyone says to disable GPS to save battery and enable it only when you need it. I been doing this the entire time and just now I read a post somewhere in these forums that only when a program needs GPS, it'll affect battery life. If this is the case, then I'll just leave GPS enabled.
So the question is, if GPS is left enabled but no program uses it, is battery life affect?
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I keep mine on and i get about 14-16 hours mild to wild use... I think it only drains if a program useless running it... dunno tho
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unless you see the gps icon in the status bar it isn't using any battery.
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unless you see the gps icon in the status bar it isn't using any battery.
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Awesome, I'll be leaving mine enabled.
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I leave mine enabled and dont notice any major difference in battery life over leaving it off.
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shilent said:
For the entire time I owned a smartphone (two years), everyone says to disable GPS to save battery and enable it only when you need it. I been doing this the entire time and just now I read a post somewhere in these forums that only when a program needs GPS, it'll affect battery life. If this is the case, then I'll just leave GPS enabled.
So the question is, if GPS is left enabled but no program uses it, is battery life affect?
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Right, if nothing calls the GPS then it uses no battery so really there is no reason to disable the GPS at all.
Is it worth it?
I use the free version and swear by it. I have exceptional battery life when using Juice defender. I have gone 16/17 hours before without needing to charge with moderate phone use. The only difference between the free and the charge version is that on the pay version you can create your own profiles. I just use the standard profile and it is awesome. Download the free version and give it a try.
Totally worth it.
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thanks, I'll ive t a try. I read some palces it does mroe harm than good
How does turning the data off, then turning it on every 15 minutes do more harm than good?
I use it if I'm in a 4G area or really trying to stretch the battery out. It does work wonders!
I use the free version and notice the gains. usually see about a twenty percent gain
Absolutely, although I have a strange issue with the service getting killed since I got the G2x, still love the app though. I have UltimateJuice btw
i bought the ultimate version and i never know how to do the settings so i ended up giving up on it.. and just manually turn wifi off and 2g on when i stop using the phone >_>
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i bought the ultimate version and i never know how to do the settings so i ended up giving up on it.. and just manually turn wifi off and 2g on when i stop using the phone >_>
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I installed the free version and it unstablized my phone. There are some Wifi apps that will turn off your wifi, when you leave your home automatically. Search WOOFI in marketplace. Or Auto Wifi Enabler.
Ya I had issues with reboots and instability while using the free version, it would also cause GPS to shut off and I would need a reboot to get it back. Just as easy to toggle it my self.
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Ya I had issues with reboots and instability while using the free version, it would also cause GPS to shut off and I would need a reboot to get it back. Just as easy to toggle it my self.
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I uninstalled also. I was having issues receiving POP email in a timely manner. I had it set to check every half hour but sometimes four or five hours would go by then a ton of emails would flood in. I am going to spring for the next step up because you have more control over individual apps and how they connect. I will post back with results.
for those saying it works wonders are you saying this as someone who keeps wifi and gps on all the time? wifi crunches the battery so if all this does is periodically turn it on and off it's not going to do much for me. i only turn it on when i need it.
I checked cpu spy this am and I charge my phone every night. In cpu spy there was only 16min of deep sleep and the and 6 hours of 100 mhz state? Whats going on ? Any one enlighten me it usually goes into deep sleep.
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I checked cpu spy this am and I charge my phone every night. In cpu spy there was only 16min of deep sleep and the and 6 hours of 100 mhz state? Whats going on ? Any one enlighten me it usually goes into deep sleep.
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Use BetterBatteryStats to look for any unusually high wakelock times.
Any input
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Do you know what your time since charged was? (I wish it would display total time since charged there...) The "since charged" definition seems weird and hasn't reset on my phone in ages... I've tended to use "since last unplugged".
Pandora appears to be your #1 wakelocker. eBay mobile seems to be pretty bad too.
NetworkLocation wakelocking can be eliminated by unchecking all of the location features in Settings except for when you want network location/GPS.
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Do you know what your time since charged was? (I wish it would display total time since charged there...) The "since charged" definition seems weird and hasn't reset on my phone in ages... I've tended to use "since last unplugged".
Pandora appears to be your #1 wakelocker. eBay mobile seems to be pretty bad too.
NetworkLocation wakelocking can be eliminated by unchecking all of the location features in Settings except for when you want network location/GPS.
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Hey ent If I.uncheck location by cell data will my weather app.still.update location?
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I assume you were listening to Pandora during that time, in which case, that wakelock is normal. Playing music from your device will also hold a wakelock when the screen is off. If you weren't listening to Pandora at all, then something is wrong.
Whoa. Why the heck is eBay holding that wakelock . Check your notification settings and if it's still holding it, clear its data and try again. Otherwise, I'd uninstall it. I always use the browser to access eBay anyway.
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Do you know what your time since charged was? (I wish it would display total time since charged there...) The "since charged" definition seems weird and hasn't reset on my phone in ages... I've tended to use "since last unplugged".
Pandora appears to be your #1 wakelocker. eBay mobile seems to be pretty bad too.
NetworkLocation wakelocking can be eliminated by unchecking all of the location features in Settings except for when you want network location/GPS.
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Thanks got most of it kinked out but what about cell location if I.turn that of will fancy.widget update
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Thanks got most of it kinked out but what about cell location if I.turn that of will fancy.widget update
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No. In the device settings, turn GPS off until you need it and leave network location checked/enabled. Go into Fancy Widget under weather settings and UNcheck/disable GPS location (GPS is unnecessary for weather updates), verify that network location is checked. Then, I would recommend changing your refresh settings (to update less frequently). I'd bet you have it set to update more frequently than an hour. I also use Fancy Widget and mine is set to 3 hours. This should take care of your network location wakelock (unless another app is also updating with network location).
BTW if Wifi is on but not connected, in Froyo it seems to scan way too often regardless of build.prop setting. Netloc should wakelock less if wifi is off.
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BTW if Wifi is on but not connected, in Froyo it seems to scan way too often regardless of build.prop setting. Netloc should wakelock less if wifi is off.
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Good.idea thanks.ent
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I assume you were listening to Pandora during that time, in which case, that wakelock is normal. Playing music from your device will also hold a wakelock when the screen is off. If you weren't listening to Pandora at all, then something is wrong.
Whoa. Why the heck is eBay holding that wakelock . Check your notification settings and if it's still holding it, clear its data and try again. Otherwise, I'd uninstall it. I always use the browser to access eBay anyway.
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Thanks buddy
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Use BetterBatteryStats to look for any unusually high wakelock times.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see an app by that name, at least on the Android market!
Nor on Amazon's app market.
TIA!
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see an app by that name, at least on the Android market!
Nor on Amazon's app market.
TIA!
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EDIT: Answered below (for non-Gingerbread ROM).
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see an app by that name, at least on the Android market!
Nor on Amazon's app market.
TIA!
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Google is your friend. It isn't a Market app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Hey ent i noticed after trial and error that phone stays on 100mhz while charging ?but when disconnected it hits deep sleep and there has been no bad wakelocks.wonder if thats y we get slow charge
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I installed BetterBatteryStats because I was curious as to why my phone always seemed to drain so quickly. I am rooted and running infused 1.5.3. I have very few widgets, one that actually accesses anything, and don't do much but surf the net or the forums in the morning. I would unplug it at 6:30 and go to work. By about 8 or so I would already be at 90% or less. That was me hardly using it. Well I hope I got my answer. Apparently Beautiful Widgets was KILLING me on the wakelocks! I wish I took a picture of it before I uninstalled it but jesus it was bad! Thanks for the good info I'm gonna keep an eye on it and see how it does.
Oh funny thing is, I was not even running Beautiful Widgets! I use Fancy Widget instead lol.
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I installed BetterBatteryStats because I was curious as to why my phone always seemed to drain so quickly. I am rooted and running infused 1.5.3. I have very few widgets, one that actually accesses anything, and don't do much but surf the net or the forums in the morning. I would unplug it at 6:30 and go to work. By about 8 or so I would already be at 90% or less. That was me hardly using it. Well I hope I got my answer. Apparently Beautiful Widgets was KILLING me on the wakelocks! I wish I took a picture of it before I uninstalled it but jesus it was bad! Thanks for the good info I'm gonna keep an eye on it and see how it does.
Oh funny thing is, I was not even running Beautiful Widgets! I use Fancy Widget instead lol.
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Awesome. I love reading stuff like this.
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Hey ent i noticed after trial and error that phone stays on 100mhz while charging ?but when disconnected it hits deep sleep and there has been no bad wakelocks.wonder if thats y we get slow charge
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No, slow charge is a few other things. ALL android phones wakelock when charging.
The phone shouldn't count CPU/screen/etc usage against charge current at all but it does. It seems to do it less so on GB. Still does it, but the spikes seem lower even if I crank stability test. Gonna be a while before I can test a navigation run.
Seems like on GB, difference between screen off and running stability test with screen on is about 200 mA. Haven't tested in that much detail on froyo. Another way of putting that - putting the screen on and cranking CPU will reduce charge rate by at least 1/3 of the 600 mA charge limit.
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Been lurking for quite a while now and have had the ATRIX 2 since the day after launch.
I pay pretty close attention to applications and their battery consumption. Today when checking I found that an app named device health application had been running. Does anyone know what this app is? Have google'd it. It didn't find any info.
Thanks!
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Thats a good question
It showed that it used 77% of my battery yesterday. If anyone runs across the true name of the app I'd like to know so I can disable it through the package manager.
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That's interesting. Its only used 3% of my battery today - so isn't a problem for me yet. However I have noticed of isn't responding to a force stop yet.
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it's a GPS user
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That's interesting. Its only used 3% of my battery today - so isn't a problem for me yet. However I have noticed of isn't responding to a force stop yet.
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It's always been <10% batt usage for me until the other day when I noticed it was up around 15%. I selected it in the batt usage screen and it's battery usage appears to be GPS and not so much CPU. It had the GPS on for 25mins total that day. I find this a bit rediculous and decided to just freeze it with Ti Backup. It's now not contributing to CPU usage, and I don't notice the GPS symbol w/o firing an app that uses it. I also haven't noticed any ill effect yet, but I'd be interested in knowing what this thing does.
I suspect it's a moto app for collecting device stats to aid in trouble-shooting issues, but that's just a guess. I'm not a fan of apps out of my control just firing up GPS at their whim. and no, I'm not willing to go full manual and start GPS myself everytime an app needs to use it. My phone works for *me*, not the other way around.
that's interesting. I haven't seen it on my since the day I posted about it. Didn't notice it doing anything with the GPS. I keep mine turned off unless I need it. Will have to check that one out if I ever see it again.
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Health Device App
Howw do you get rid of it?
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Howw do you get rid of it?
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By upgrading to 2.3.6. This thread is old.look at the dates,november.there is no health app as moto removed Carrier i.q
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When turning on the gps services is there an way to not have to click "agree" to every one and just have it turn on when u hit the check mark? I'm lazy and don't like hitting extra buttons if i don't have to. I mean, if I'm turning it on then obviously i agree to whatever it's trying to tell me, right? Haha.
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I dont have my phone up as Im flashing right now but either A. leave it on as I read conflicting as if it hurts or not. B. when you pull down cant you just toggle on/off and not get the message or C. have the power control widget which lets you turn on/off wifi , bluetooth etc.. As I said my phone isnt up at then momoent so just throwing stuff out there.
I don't want to just leave it on as to try to conserve battery life, and whether u use the notification pull down or they power control widget u still have to hit agree.
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Yeah I got my phone up and saw that. Sorry , maybe try a market app.
I'm kinda thinking it might have to be a framework change. any devs up for it?
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It just took me 22 minutes to get a GPS fix. Sad.
leaving GPS on uses 0 battery unless you are using an app that requires GPS
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leaving GPS on uses 0 battery unless you are using an app that requires GPS
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Still doesn't explain why it took 22 minutes to lock on to a signal.
it took 22 seconds because the GPS in Samsungs arent that great...they work but not very quick or accurate. It works better for some people than others.