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WTF is this??
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/02/13/this-is-the-galaxy-tab-2/#.Tzk_2VnRwqc
Wow.
quoted from a cnet article..
The Galaxy Tab 2 will also become the first mobile device from Samsung to ship with its AllShare Play service. ????
So this was holding up our 4.0 update == the same hardware! doh!
to hit stores this march. I dont see anyreason why we wouldnt have our "update" by then.
clever marketing strategy Sammy, does this mean the new update will automagically transform our devices to become the new "Galaxy Tab 2"?
probably still no phone function in US.
I saw that too on Engadget, and I do not know if it's a good news or a bad one .
That "thing" seems to be quite the same as out G7+, so I wonder if we'd be able to flash the ICS FW straight from that one, before our device will be officially updated
By the way, I believe it's just the same device , slightly modified due to the recent apple/samsumg legal battle.
P_
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/hands-on-samsung-galaxy-tab-2-review-1062954
hands on..
lets just hope for a leaked FW anyday now..
I think they may have been testing the sale of the 7+ in diff regions, and may release this as a universal release. except for US of course getting a Wifi only most likely.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495134
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nice.
so we do have better hardware.
they probably also trying to cut costs as well as the processor issue.
well good to know we have the better hardware, so any ICS leaks wont work 100% then.
Wonder if its the end of the line for the 7+ ?
another forum on xda hopefully which means good fur us dev wise.. even if their ROMs wont run on our equpment.
Looks like they are going back to the Tegra2. Why break something when it's not fixed.
Here's the thing. Aside from the fact that it has a lower clock speed on the processor, (possibly a different, cheaper processor, e.g. Tegra 2), and the fact that it has no LED flash, lower resolution front facing camera; if you look carefully at the official press photos, you will notice that it is a bit more "touchwizzed" (look at the icons, they are a lot like the icons on the phone and the OG Galaxy Tab 7, (with colored squares behind each app icon.) It seems that this may in fact be Samsung's answer to the new ASUS 7in, $250 ICS tablet. If this is Samsung's "budget tablet" then it makes sense. If this is true, it will show up on all of the carriers, (subsidized and contracted, of course,) and may hit retailers as a sub-$300 tablet. At that price point, this makes sense.
This is becoming a bit ridiculous. The Tab Plus is not even properly introduced to market and we already have another version out?
This new one will be less expensive, maybe much less.
I would not be surprised if people start getting confused with
tab 7
tab 7 2
tab 7 plus
tab 7.7
and then all wifi and wifi/3g versions..
Why did they present it at a small show in Prague instead of MWC in few days? Does it make sense to you?
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Here's the thing. Aside from the fact that it has a lower clock speed on the processor, (possibly a different, cheaper processor, e.g. Tegra 2), and the fact that it has no LED flash, lower resolution front facing camera; if you look carefully at the official press photos, you will notice that it is a bit more "touchwizzed" (look at the icons, they are a lot like the icons on the phone and the OG Galaxy Tab 7, (with colored squares behind each app icon.) It seems that this may in fact be Samsung's answer to the new ASUS 7in, $250 ICS tablet. If this is Samsung's "budget tablet" then it makes sense. If this is true, it will show up on all of the carriers, (subsidized and contracted, of course,) and may hit retailers as a sub-$300 tablet. At that price point, this makes sense.
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The asus 250$ tablet is a tegra 3.
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The asus 250$ tablet is a tegra 3.
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I stand corrected. I was getting a bit confused. The $250 tablet, (which is still little more than a CES teaser,) is slated to be the ME370T. (I won't comment on build quality yet, since ASUS has serious issues building even their top of the line devices, i.e. Transformer Prime) The tablet I was referring to was the official $250 EeePad MeMo (ME171) which will have a 7-inch WXGA (1,280 x 800) IPS capacitive touchpanel, a 1.2GHz dual-core Qualcomm 8260 processor, a gigabyte of memory, 16GB / 32GB of storage, 802.11b/g/n WiFi, Bluetooth 2.1+EDR, a 1.2 megapixel front / 5 megapixel rear camera (with 1080p recording), an A-GPS sensor, gyroscope, proximity sensor and a micro-USB port. There's a 4,400mAh Li-polymer battery reportedly good for some 8.5 hours of video playback, and Android 4.0.1. The unit checks in with dimensions of 7.8- x 4.6- x 0.50-inches (and a weight of 14.2 ounces). Seeing as they haven't even announced a release date for the Tegra 3 ME370T, I have a feeling that the Galaxy Tab 2 is going to be competing with the similarly specced ME171. I hope that clears up any confusion I may have caused with my lack of clarity.
Its not quite a teaser. Reps from my company had it in hand at CES. It's pretty much official and will likely be a game changer, if Asus doesn't botch the roll out.
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Its not quite a teaser. Reps from my company had it in hand at CES. It's pretty much official and will likely be a game changer, if Asus doesn't botch the roll out.
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Unfortunately, it was a prototype unit, (and it felt like it,) While I don't doubt that Asus intends to bring it to market, I do doubt that they'll be able to make it very well at that price point with the types of parts they are claiming. Also, it's ASUS, they'll botch the roll out. They always do. Their devices always launch with build quality issues.
I wasn't there personally but a prototype makes sense. Looks like we're going to have to wait and see. I agree that a budget tab makes the most sense. With the 7+ being the big brother.
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I wasn't there personally but a prototype makes sense. Looks like we're going to have to wait and see. I agree that a budget tab makes the most sense. With the 7+ being the big brother.
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Will the average consumer understand the difference between tab plus and tab 2?
Many will think a Tab *2* is newer and better then a Tab *Plus*. like a S 2 is better then a S plus.
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Will the average consumer understand the difference between tab plus and tab 2?
Many will think a Tab *2* is newer and better then a Tab *Plus*. like a S 2 is better then a S plus.
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I don't know. Depends how they market it. The cynic in me says that the 7+ will become an after thought to both consumers and Samsung. It wouldn't be the first time they've done it.
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All I want to know is will the 7+ get ICS?
I know there are many things about the Tab Plus that make it a superior piece of hardware, but the Nexus 7 is one of the few 7" devices that even comes close to it in specs and performance.
The one great thing is that it will get the latest OS updates and that will make it a more fun device to use. It hasn't even shipped yet, but has its own forum and someone has already figured out how to root the device . . . The most frustrating thing about Samsung is its silence and sluggishness regarding updating our beloved device. Not to mention the wifi driver issue.
I don't plan on getting rid of my Tab Plus but I have a Nexus 7 on pre order and can't wait to try some Jelly Bean.
change the title to:
microsd x JB
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Well it has the superior processor and better software support, downside would be the missing microSD slot, limited internal storage and lack of 3g. So on the one hand you are dependent on the cloud but you dont get mobile data capabilities. Sure Tegra 3 is nice but i still think the tab+ is at the very least more mobile.
Oh yeah and the n7 is supposed to have a bit of a better screen.
Since it has only wifi and limited storage it's designed to be used at home mostly which conflicts with the concept of such a small screen size.
OK, so I was really curious about this too. I made a little spreadsheet to compare the GT+wifi to the 16gb N7. It's attached. There's several small differences (dimensions, materials, asthetics, etc.) that were either a matter of taste of too insignificant to call "different." BTW- if I've missed something let me know and I'll update.
Nexus 7 (16gb)-----Galaxy Tab Plus (6210 wifi only):
Processor: Tegra 3 Quad Core 1300MHz-----1.2 GHz dual-core Exynos 4210
OS: Android 4.1 Jelly Bean*- Vanilla-----Android 3.2 Honeycomb - Touchwiz
OS Future: Early upgrades for 18 months-----ICS July/August; nothing more
Display: 1280 x 800 IPS-----1024 x 600 PLS
Magnetometer: Yes-----No
USB Digital Audio: Yes-----No
NFC: Yes-----No
USB: MicroUSB w/host-----Samsung Proprietary w/host
Back Camera (MP): No-----3.1
Front Camera (MP): 1.2-----2
Expandable Memory: No-----Yes
Wifi: B/G/N-----A/B/G/N
Wifi 5Ghz: No-----Yes
So, there you have it. If you need mobile data, don't compare, just get a GT+. Also note the difference in user base for the two tablets which means a huge difference in the amount of development.
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OK, so I was really curious about this too. I made a little spreadsheet to compare the GT+wifi to the 16gb N7. It's attached. There's several small differences (dimensions, materials, asthetics, etc.) that were either a matter of taste of too insignificant to call "different." BTW- if I've missed something let me know and I'll update.
Nexus 7 (16gb)-----Galaxy Tab Plus (6210 wifi only):
Processor: Tegra 3 Quad Core 1300MHz-----1.2 GHz dual-core Exynos 4210
OS: Android 4.1 Jelly Bean*- Vanilla-----Android 3.2 Honeycomb - Touchwiz
OS Future: Early upgrades for 18 months-----ICS July/August; nothing more
Display: 1280 x 800 IPS-----1024 x 600 PLS
Magnetometer: Yes-----No
USB Digital Audio: Yes-----No
NFC: Yes-----No
USB: MicroUSB w/host-----Samsung Proprietary w/host
Back Camera (MP): No-----3.1
Front Camera (MP): 1.2-----2
Expandable Memory: No-----Yes
Wifi: B/G/N-----A/B/G/N
Wifi 5Ghz: No-----Yes
So, there you have it. If you need mobile data, don't compare, just get a GT+. Also note the difference in user base for the two tablets which means a huge difference in the amount of development.
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Thanks for pulling all this together!
Honestly if the nexus 7 had a microsd card slot id probably rid my gt+ but im not sure if im willing to give up storage for a faster cpu. ... I think it kind of is a downgrade, and cloud come on why would you want your files on another device and not your own? I think its a cool device and may work for you but all n all i think the gt+ is for the win in my book
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I just sold my Gtab+ on ebay today and pre-ordered two Nexus 7.
I'm just tired of Samsung taking forever to roll out major updates, namely ICS. I've had working ICS leaks on my E4GT for several months now, which I am enjoying and all, however my P6210 has seen no such love. Its not mobile/3g so the carrier argument is null. What bothers me further is that Samsung put out the tab 2, which is extremely similar yet its got ICS.
I decided to sell it now, while i still can and forego the microSD card slot. apart from that, i am gaining a far superior tab that has much greater function (to me) than the tab plus.
Despite the Lack of external storage I do not see how a Gtab plus is in any way better than the Nexus 7. Even if it has 3G, pages are slow to load and browsers FC more often than i'd like to admit. I find myself (when using my phone) waiting and hopping onto wifi more often than waiting for 3G.
Based on Specs alone, my wants and needs would be satisfied by the Nexus 7. As great as external storage would be for movies during flights and trips, i can still make plenty of use of 16GB of on board storage for my half way around the world flights.
Small correction, the plus has a magnetometer
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killerbicycle said:
I just sold my Gtab+ on ebay today and pre-ordered two Nexus 7.
I'm just tired of Samsung taking forever to roll out major updates, namely ICS. I've had working ICS leaks on my E4GT for several months now, which I am enjoying and all, however my P6210 has seen no such love. Its not mobile/3g so the carrier argument is null. What bothers me further is that Samsung put out the tab 2, which is extremely similar yet its got ICS.
I decided to sell it now, while i still can and forego the microSD card slot. apart from that, i am gaining a far superior tab that has much greater function (to me) than the tab plus.
Despite the Lack of external storage I do not see how a Gtab plus is in any way better than the Nexus 7. Even if it has 3G, pages are slow to load and browsers FC more often than i'd like to admit. I find myself (when using my phone) waiting and hopping onto wifi more often than waiting for 3G.
Based on Specs alone, my wants and needs would be satisfied by the Nexus 7. As great as external storage would be for movies during flights and trips, i can still make plenty of use of 16GB of on board storage for my half way around the world flights.
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Just some quick thoughts on my future with my GT7+...not commenting on anyone else's decision to switch or not....
Not sure if I'll sell my GT7+ or repurpose it, but I too have ordered an N7. Lack of ICS (my 10 android tab has it so I do know what I'm missing- unfortunately I don't have time these days to root/hack as much as I'd like to get an unofficial ICS on the GT7) is a big issue for me so getting to leapfrog it for JellyB is a dream. Day to day performance compared to iOS has always been so disappointing and it looks like JB will have that smooth, buttery UX that android has been severely lacking. I can't wait! I know many will disagree with that statement, but fanboi-ism aside, you gotta admit, why does android need two or even four cores running at 1.2-1.7Ghz to run as smoothly as iOS (which only uses a dual 1Ghz cpu or slower)? I'm not a dev or coder so don't know the nuts and bolts of the OS, but as a consumer the slow downs, freezes, stutters, etc is a deal killer.
These days an iPad3 is my main tab (/ducks...lol), but I still think the GT7 size is a portable sweet spot. There are times the iPad just feel to big to bring. Plus, the horsepower of Tegra 3 with that monster GPU (12 cores!) will make the N7 a serious competitor to the iPad for games and multimedia content creation (photo and video in my case)- if we get the proper apps. Another thing the the N7 got me with is a better supported screen rez- I've had app compatibility issues possibly because 1024x768 wasn't properly supported for a honeycomb tablet.
16GB with no expansion might be tough, but support for USB drives will come soon if not available at launch. No HDMI out is also a bummer, though again, I've read MHL support could be added with a firmware update.
Lack of 3G is a non-issue. 3G sucks. Sorry, but come on, in this age of LTE, good WiFi coverage about anywhere and LTE MiFi's, I would never pay extra to have 3G in a device these days. LTE data plans are about the same cost as 3G now and coverage is only getting better (obviously, I'm only talking about the US and have no idea what the situation for LTE is in other parts of the world)
Anyway, I know I'll always have uses for both OS's- well, my work requires I know and use both, but it's gonna be great to have a device that won't sometimes make me feel like a beta tester when I use Android.
Damn, ipad was never into the discussion.
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Yuck, sold mt ipad 2 to get this one. As long as they put ****ty software on it which is only designed to restrict your freedom, im not ever gonna get anything with a bitten apple on it lol.
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Oh yeah an that with 3g is your opinion, but it highly depends on where you live. When youre on the countryside 3g is your only option, since there is bad lte coverage and wifi only at home so...
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Keeping my TabPlus, waiting for N7+.
Hey! nobody saw that the n7 has no interface for tablet? This is very important for the GT +
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Hey! nobody saw that the n7 has no interface for tablet? This is very important for the GT +
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If you can't find google or the search button, how did you make it to XDA?
GTab+: MicroSD, HDMI (with dongle), rear camera + LED, haptic feedback.
N7: Better resolution, OS, CPU, easier to hold (grippy case), NFC
I'll be keeping my GTab+ P6210 for now. Besides being a bit slower and lower res, it suits my purposes fine and has all the extras. Hopefully the OS will catch up eventually (at least 4.04 with good custom ROM, don't care for TW that much). Might get an N7 later but not in a huge rush right now.
Keeping my GT+
but want to order the 32 Gig Nexus 7 (they are currently sold out)to have a cream of the crop OS to play with . The only reason I need the Xtra space is for movies so I'll just bring my GPlus when on long trips and the Nexus 7 for short ones. :good:
Well i wont leave my GT+ for sure.. I use it for cellular purpose and also browsing internet.. its my main gadget now ^^, but eyah, another 7" tab for 200 $ with 1.3 quad tegra.. jelly bean.. quite a good offer for self amusement.. will consider getting that N7 as well.. but GT+ will always be my main, for now..
Another direct comparison.
http://versusio.com/en/google-nexus-7-8gb-vs-samsung-galaxy-tab-7-0-plus-p6210-32gb
This comparision is bull****.
No DLNA on P6210?
Nexus 7 doesn't have USB mass storage out of the box.
Free navigation? You can install Google Maps on P6210 for free too.
Also this bull**** comparision doesn't mention things like rear facing camera, LED flash on P6210.
Hey Guys,
I am interested in purchasing a tablet soon and I am highly torn between the two tablets SGN8000 and ATIV Smart PC (wait for). My primary use is for studies. I want to use it to take notes, make annotations on text books(super important for me), read eBooks etc. It would also be great if navigation is available on it. I do not have the option to try one for a few days because in India most stores have a no return policy.
I have listed my view of both tablets below.
Can you please give me your thoughts on whether I should wait for ATIV Smart PC or buy the SGN8000 now?
Both have Wacom Pen technology & Samsung S Apps.
Both cost approx the same. ($700-$750) (Lower variants of SGN80XX are not released by Samsung in India. Importing is prohibitively expensive)
SGN8000: (AVAILABLE NOW)
+Google Navigation is great.
+Has call features (helps sometimes!)
+Has received many positive reviews about stability and battery life.
- Most android apps are not tablet optimized.
- No good PDF and note taking software exists.
- No idea if Samsung apps are reliable in opening and handling large textbooks.
- Possibly not many adopters and hence less DEV support on XDA ?
ATIV Smart PC: (RELEASE BY OCT 30)
+Full fledged Windows OS.
+OneNote 2013 (do I even need to say more ?)
+$670 without keyboard.
+8M Camera (comes in handy for OCR).
+Plethora of Windows based educational applications.
- No GPS
- Resolution very bad for a 11.6 Inch screen.
- First product of Smasung Windows 8 Series (We all know how the first ones fare)
Get the note!!! First gen devices really do suck.
EZPDFReaderPro for Android is good for annotation, and have opened a 230mb pdf with fast loading times on my Galaxy Note n70000, which is dual core, so I imagine that would be much smoother on Note 10.1.
Don't think the difference in cameras will cause much weight in an OCR showdown....
Guess I'd look at which software I currently use and how much I'm willing to adapt to/invest in a different system. Although, I use Evernote (which is almost platform agnostic) to sync a lot of PDF's, epubs, and my own writings and drawings across Windows, Android and iOS. You sound smitten with OneNote, but lost without GPS.
The Ativ is neither a tab, nor a PC. I doubt it will ever run smoothly on the specs they announced.
If you require x86 compatibility then get the ATIV otherwise get the Note 10.1.
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The Ativ is neither a tab, nor a PC. I doubt it will ever run smoothly on the specs they announced.
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The ATIV SmartPC is a Tablet with a keyboard doc. Running the latest Atom processor ect. Im running Windows 8 on my OLD Samsung N220 laptop and it runs pretty well, so I reckon the SmartPC will perform just fine! Although I would say that it would be better going for the SmartPC Pro, due to the i5 chip in it, meaning much more solid performance.
As for the OP
The display resolution isn't that big of a deal. Look at majority of PC screens and laptops. Have you ever had a clarity issue with a 15" Laptop screen with a 720p resolution? I doubt it.
It will be more then enough pixels for you to enjoy the screen.
Also the Note 10.1 atm ships with a similar screen res so its not a big deal. Also as for GPS, Samsung doesn't list all the specs on their ATIV SmartPC range, so don't assume there won't be GPS. There probably will be GPS on it.
PS. The SmartPC Pro has a 1920x1080 resolution Nobody knows prices yet either. They probably won't be release next month, I would reckon they will release by the end of the year, or the beggining of next.
there should be an entire section dedicated to those lol some are pretty interesting I am noticing lately.
Yeah,
I've looked at some reviews for the goophone devices and the specs and surprisingly good.
The new goophone I5 has a quad core tegra 3 at 1.4 ghz which is much better than the iphone 5's dual core 1.2 A6.
They all run some modded form of MIUI and don't really seem to be all that bad compared to the fake plastic iPhones on ebay.
http://android-sale.com/android-phones.html Until I found this site I didn't know there was an US English store for these. Look at the OEM names, every brand is like a US trademark spelled backwards like HDC or Drois. They do have some legit OEMs like Hauwei or MIUI creator Xiaomi. At the same time I wonder if this is too good to be true since a dual core is $199 off contract considering my Nexus from Google Play was 399 a few months ago.
I've watched a video of the i5 Lite dual-core version not the quad tegra 3 and it still looks okay. It would be nice to have something with the physical appearance of Apple running something like CyanogenMod.
The problem with having android development and forums here is that it would be more difficult since these devices arn't a general brand and just some random chipsets. Its like custom building a PC almost. The main issue would be getting a hold of the kernel source to make ROMs work. Knowing how these things are built, they probably ship with Clockworkmod 5 out of the box but even with good phones like the Xiaomi M1/2 there is no CyanogenMod ports for it.
The other issue is actually having an interest in the devices if not enough people have the phone in the first place theres no point in opening development for it. Most consumers including devs and modders would take a SGS3 / Nexus / HTC Sense over some aftermarket Chinese phone.
Otherwise it would be great to see something like AOSP on these seemly low cost, high end replicas.
Sorry for my bad grammar, tried to type fast.
I'm in need of a 7" tablet. I own a Samsung S3 phone and I bought one of my kids a Nexus 7 a couple months ago. Nexus 7 is great but I recently discovered Ainol specs. I understand it's a China-direct deal and it is going to be way behind something like a Nexus as far as support and ease/frequency of firmware and OS updates. Seems though, sort of like Hyundai, it may have had a shaky reputation earlier but their latest devices seem to be of pretty high quality.
Mainly, I'm eyeballing the Flame 7" tablet. Much better hardware specs than the Nexus, aside from maybe a little less powerful CPU? I don't need it for gaming though. I love the fact it has both an SD card slot and a front facing 2MP camera and rear facing 5MP camera. I like to do video conferencing and you can't do that on a Nexus. Build quality looks close to Nexus and Ainol has Play Store and supports FLASH. Wow. Really hard to pass up.
My dilemma now is to wait for the Flame II with the quad-core CPU and rumored Android 4.2, or just get the current dual-core model. Seems you risk firmware bugs in a brand new device, but, sure would be nice to have 4.2 right off the bat. I'm not sure what other differences there are on the II other than the CPU? Anyone know?
The specs on the Flame 1 say ICS with JB Update. But a search for a JB update for the Flame 1 turns up nothing. Hence, the poor manufacturer and community support on these "off brands" seems to be their only downside assuming the hardware reliability on their latest models is up to par.
Seems to be an increasingly popular brand, maybe the most popular out of the 'off brands.' Yet no forums for them here despite many other tablet forums?
Dedicated Forums are created in XDA depending upon the development works the device has. If it has a high level development like ports of CyanogenMod, AOKP, custom recovery, kernels, other tweaks, mods etc. then there is a chance that it gets a dedicated forum.