[Q] Ram required for HD GAMES for android phon - General Questions and Answers

Hi guys, I'm new in this forum and gonna buy a new android phone in next months,
LG optimus 2x and Samsung Galaxy S2 come in mind.
After spec and prices comparison, LG O2X seem not bad,
but something hold me back which is the unstable froyo 2.2 where I hear a lots of problems occur and the 512mb ram.
It was said the 128ram is dedicated for GPU of Tegra2,
so 512mb - 128mb = 384mb,
then after some ram for UI and OS,
What I remember I saw from other webs states left around 220-200mb.
So i wonder while playing HD games for android such as assassin creed, GTA and others, normally how much ram will inccur?
Sources I read through from GSM, Anandtech and others.

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Galaxy s or something else ?

I have a Htc hero gsm, happy about it, but i want a new phone with a bigger screen and more powerful gpu to play games on.
Is Galaxy s something good? or is there anything more powerful than the Galaxy s? if there is, how much is the GPU, better than the Galaxy as a percentage?
Or should I wait until after new year? when dual core come? but i have heard that the GPU on them should be similar or slightly better than Galaxyn s gpu ... So what is the best?
btw how good is the Galaxy s gpu compare to iphone 4 ?
you simply cant compare the iphone 4 to any other phone ... no matter what aspect ! the iphone 4 was created by god , to reflect his own vision of what a perfect phone should be ..
souljaboy said:
you simply cant compare the iphone 4 to any other phone ... no matter what aspect ! the iphone 4 was created by god , to reflect his own vision of what a perfect phone should be ..
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For anyone else who is agnostic there are other options.
I have a TMO Vibrant, the phone is good for my my needs, but there are a few flaws that Samsung committed:
1. GPS is flaky, even with the latest update the accuracy is something to be desired.
2. For the life of me I cannot comprehend the business decision at Samsung to go with a crippled filesystem - RFS - based on a decade decaying FAT32.
It is the major gripe, but with the development going on in the Galaxy S forums there seem to be a light at the end of a tunnel with converting RFS into EXT based filesystem.
The CPU choice is good, the GPU is there as well.
If your main concern is games, I don't think Android is up there yet though.
The iPhone 4 is running a PowerVR SGX535 while the Galaxy S series are running on a PowerVR SGX540. The Galaxy S has better hardware for gaming, but still, the app store is still much better on the iPhone.
I suspect that the Android market will catch up within the year, but because of the different specs an Android phone can come in, developers may have a hard time porting their games.
just a random question... if there is a psp emulator, will galaxy s run smooth on psp games ?
The Galaxy S has a faster GPU, but it probably won't be taken advantage to the extent that the iPhone4's GPU is due to the hardware diversity of the android platform.
oopeteroo said:
just a random question... if there is a psp emulator, will galaxy s run smooth on psp games ?
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Sony is going to release a Playstation phone running Android OS - most probably Gengerbread - my guess would be around CEC next year. So the quality gaming is coming to Android.

Optimus 3D vs Nintendo 3DS shootout

An unexpected type of shootout between completely different products, but fun to read anyways. Not prefect since it is done on paper specs and not actual hardware:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/38491/lg-optimus-vs-nintendo-3ds
Bad review , author has no idea what he is talking about , this phone does not have 4 gigs of RAM. It has 8 gigs of internal storage SSD and 512 MB of RAM.
Winner: LG Optimus 3D1GHz Dual-Core OMAP4, 4GB RAM, SGX540 GPU (LP DDR2)loser: Nintendo 3DS2x 266MHz ARM11 processors, 64MB RAM, PICA200 GPU
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It also plays host to a whopping 4GB of RAM which should be plenty for coping with all of the phone's basic functions as well as the 3D visuals
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Does this device really have the SGX540? The same GPU as the Galaxy S?
If it does, wouldn't that mean that there really won't be much improvement over the Galaxy S for single-threaded applications(seeing as, besides the 3D-ness and extra core, the specs are quite similar)? Are most Android apps/games/emulators/N64oid single-threaded?
mangelok said:
Does this device really have the SGX540? The same GPU as the Galaxy S?
If it does, wouldn't that mean that there really won't be much improvement over the Galaxy S for single-threaded applications(seeing as, besides the 3D-ness and extra core, the specs are quite similar)? Are most Android apps/games/emulators/N64oid single-threaded?
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The omap 4 is paired with an overclocked version of the sgx. If you check a thread on smartphonebenchmarks.com it will show the comparisons for the 2 different phones. As of now the overclocked version doesn't make a big difference until newer games are released that require more power. It gives the phone more life in terms of hardware . I would link but my g1 doesn't have the ram to save the state my apps are in. The g1 requires a full restart of apps which is inconvenient.
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[Q] RAM

Do you think 512MB RAM are enough for the Optimus 3D? And what kind of RAM has the SGS2 for example? Is it ddr1? And is it a big difference with ddr2 ram in the optimus 3d compared with other new smartphones?
The first time i red that the optimus 3d only has 512 mb of ram i thougt this isn't enough for a new smartphone but all i heard till now sounds really good. so what do you think?
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Do you think 512MB RAM are enough for the Optimus 3D? And what kind of RAM has the SGS2 for example? Is it ddr1? And is it a big difference with ddr2 ram in the optimus 3d compared with other new smartphones?
The first time i red that the optimus 3d only has 512 mb of ram i thougt this isn't enough for a new smartphone but all i heard till now sounds really good. so what do you think?
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+1, also, is 512mb enough to play resource heavy games? (note - i don't necessarily mean 3d games, just lets say the version of dungeon defenders or NOVA thats out in 6 or whenever months time) I don't know much about how much ram games use, all i know is you cant add any more ram to the phone (or any phone for that matter)
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Ian
it's absolutely enough!!!and it's also dualchannel ram so very fast.
And do you know what kind of ram other highend smartphones have? like the SGS2? And can you compare the ram in smartphones with the ram in pc: ddr2 in the optimus 3d = ddr2 in my pc?
Optimus 3D uses a dual-channel LPDDR2 memory controller. search on google and wikipedia
I know what the Optimus 3D has. I just can't find something for the Galaxy S2 and others ^^
Ah ok i found it. It's also DDR2
nic85 said:
it's absolutely enough!!!and it's also dualchannel ram so very fast.
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Its only fast until you run out of it, filling up 512mb of ram is pretty easy.
peachpuff said:
Its only fast until you run out of it, filling up 512mb of ram is pretty easy.
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Thats what i was afraid of.
Me too and i'm really thinking about changing my order and buy a SGS2. I really prefer the design of the Optimus 3D and the SGS2 would be more than 100 € more expensive for me than the Optimus 3D. But the ram and the camera are two things that are much better on the SGS2. And there is much more activity on the SGS2 board on xda ... i'm not sure but at the moment i think the SGS2 is the better choice!?
512mb are absolutely enough,don't talk without sense do you want to install Crysis?than 512mb are not enough.
I know that it is enough for the next 6 months, maybe for the next year, but are you sure it is enough for new stuff afterwords? and did you compare the videos and pictures of sgs2 and optimus 3d? sry but the quality of the 3d is very bad compared with the sgs2. really don't get me wrong, i would prefer the lg not only because of the much better design, but those are two major things that can't be changed :/
and did you see latest gl benchmarks? why is the sgs2 that much better in the egypt test?
yes all.
You are talking about a pre-production model of Optimus 3D,so you have to wait the final rom.
The gs2 is very powerful but it have:
-gingerbread
-1.2ghz cpu(was 1.0ghz but samsung noticed that wasn't powerful as optimus 3d,so has overclocked it to 1.2ghz)
-final rom
so to compare the two device we have to:
wait 2.3.3 for the 3D,wait the final rom,overlock to 1.2ghz...then compare.
but i think this won't change anything with the quality of the camera.
buy a digital camera
.. your post is +1 for SGS2
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.. your post is +1 for SGS2
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than go buy it
I am holding out for the P920, I think that they are aware of the software problems tht they had with the early launch of the P990 and are making sure this baby rocks....
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I am holding out for the P920, I think that they are aware of the software problems tht they had with the early launch of the P990 and are making sure this baby rocks....
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yeah hope so
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I am holding out for the P920, I think that they are aware of the software problems tht they had with the early launch of the P990 and are making sure this baby rocks....
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in ever day of delay premier of this phone Im thinking about some other smartphone. Is too long to wait and what is worst is look like lg optimus 3d can playback 3d movies.

[Q] Which phones to choose @[email protected]

Ok, i know that people often ask for this questions.....
So i would like you guys, the pros to help me decide whether which phone is suitable for me....
I have several phones in my mind now and my thoughts :
The SE.Xperia Play : great gaming devices, but its single core GPU and batt life push me away :<
Optimus 2x : Great GPU, its 512 ram and its rebooting / phone non responding pulls me off :<
Galaxy s2 : Great choice, but IMO the tegra 2 might be faster and more optimised for optimus 2x when gingerbread / icecream sandwich is avaiable to update for optimus 2x.. I love the 1gb ram *_*
HTC sensation : I love the dual core snapdragon... but its 756 ram and internal memory pulls me off.....
I mainly use my phone for gaming on the other hand, the battery life, while waiting on bus or train, multi tasking, more often on web browsing, and music too.
Please give me a fair comparison between those listed phones or some other phones you may recommend. Thanks in advance ! Cheeeeeeeeeeers

[Q] 1GB vs 2GB RAM on Android 4.0

There has been a lot of internet buzz lately around new 2GB phones coming out, most specifically the LG Optimus LTE2 and the Galaxy S3. I am looking to get a new phone, but the one that has caught my eye is the Xperia GX with Sony's new CMOS sensor.
I was wondering, how is the performance of Android 4.0 with only 1GB RAM, and would the performance increase of 2GB be a significant enough difference to want one of the Korean phones? Does anyone with a current 1GB phone have any issues with performance?
I believe all of the above mentioned phones use the new Snapdragon S4 processor.
Thank you!
I think for now 2GB of RAM is a bit of a overkill, for now, unless you're running fifty apps at once. I think 1GB is plenty enough. I myself own a Galaxy Nexus and it has 1GB of RAM. It ran smoothly even with like a few apps running in the background. Really, if you wanted to run fifty apps in the background, it will kill your battery, so I guess thats the trade off with 2GB RAM.
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I think for now 2GB of RAM is a bit of a overkill, for now, unless you're running fifty apps at once. I think 1GB is plenty enough. I myself own a Galaxy Nexus and it has 1GB of RAM. It ran smoothly even with like a few apps running in the background. Really, if you wanted to run fifty apps in the background, it will kill your battery, so I guess thats the trade off with 2GB RAM.
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I don't think has talking about a nexus phone, when buying let's say an HTC evo 4G lte or galaxy3. You see left with very little ram if they were both1GB. My LTEvo is left with only 200 to 150 mb's ram left, but that's with every app I have running. Still when I'm web surfing the web sites easily ready threw the 200 mb's & more so sometimes the browser closes on me all on it's to refresh the memory I'm guessing. So yes I believe the fact that we now use higher resolution screens meaning higher resolution slings & launchers not to mention games, imo we need more RAM, not an extra gig but at least 400 mb's free. That way the launcher on the evo doesn't have to refresh everytime *really about once a week* but the 2 GB's the galaxy had is overkill but at least you won't have any of the referring the RAM every one in a while. Also to be noted in every benchmark between the galaxy3 & ltevo, the evo win's, surprisingly even in the memory I/O! In antutu benchmark & in quadrant the gs3 scores about 4780 while the ltevo scores 5000 to 5300, I peonally scored 545x... So I don't know if SG3 isusing given 2 GB's of slower ram or LTEvo is using faster RAM but it still not bring enough, all in all I will change my LTEvo do to the RAM issue that can be fixed with a simple update.
It's android or it's Windows 7 ultimate?? LOL
1 GB is just perfect.
My pc has 2.13 GHz cpu single core and 2GB ram and runs windows 7, my brother's htc one x has 1.5 ghz quad core cpu and 1gb ram for run android 4.0!
that's incredible
Android does NOT need 2gb of ram. My Galaxy Nexus runs amazing on 1gb of ram, and my Xperia Play ran ICS pretty good and it only had 512mb of ram. Right now a phone having 2gb of ram is just a marketing gimick. I can't see any of the Android releases in the near future needing 2gb of ram to be smooth. In fact Jellybean runs smoother than ICS on the same hardware, so it's getting more efficient, not less.
1GB is GOOD & 2GB is ... :good:
In theory, 1GB of RAM is lots. But I have the HTC One X (North American version) which has 1GB of RAM, and it suffers from crippled multitasking (just search Google if interested). Nobody seems to know for sure, but the general consensus on the root cause is that the HTC Sense software is a RAM hog, and therefore HTC had to modify Android to aggressively kill background apps in order to ensure that Sense performs well. I suspect that had they installed 2GB of RAM, like the Samsung Galaxy S3, the multitasking issue would not have occurred.
I have since installed an unofficial alpha build of Cyanogenmod9 on my device and it multitasks like a dream. So if you're buying an Android phone without a whole lot of bloatware, like a Galaxy Nexus, 1GB should be a lot. But if you're eyeing the HTC One X, you may want to wait for a 2GB model to come out
in future you need 2gb of memory.....
many apps and games improvement in the future......now 1gb it's still enough but in the future?? :laugh:
The more the merrier.; )
2gb is just too much for android, 1gb already runs smoothly, hell even my galaxy s1 with 512mb can run ics smoothly (true story). i think they are trowing 2gb just for people to think it's gonna be faster and smoother but that isn't the case here, though it's not going to hurt if you go for 2gb, it is just that it wont make a real difference. :laugh:
Confused, frustrated, and abandoning the platform if...
I can't find the bottleneck and get snappy performance.
I'm on a Galaxy Nexus on V. The problem is (and I'm really not looking for business advice - I'm spread too thin for major overhaul) I can't delete my SMS because, many times, it may be the ONLY reference we have for a discussion I had with a customer of what they need(ed), what I charged, when the job was completed. I realize this isn't ideal, but it's (for now) a reality.
I have a HUGE DB of SMS... over 5000. I don't install many apps... of course, I have my gmail account sync'd.
One of my slow-downs was using google-voice... however, even with it removed, it's choppy. Whether moving between home screens, loading my SMS, getting keyboard input on an SMS to respond (which sometimes takes 10 seconds to start recording keystrokes).
I know that if I deleted everything and only had a sparse amount of data (primarily SMS) it'd be faster. And for good reason... managing a DB of texts seems like a lot of data to organize. And that... I assume is controlled by RAM.
And before anyone jumps to conclusions, bare in mind, I own a tech company. There's nothing broken on the phone. It runs the same as EVERY android device I've owned. Pretty fast (generation specific) at first, then, slows down... by month 3, I dislike the phone.
Yes, each generation gets successively LESS painful -- but I have an EXTREMELY fast paced life. I always have 2-6 people waiting for my attention throughout the day... every second counts. And every delay is annoying.
Is this just fatally-flawed-android for you? Unable to deal with a large(ish) DB..? Is this a RAM issue? Is this energy saving issue? I'm currently waiting for the iPhone 5 for a larger screen. If it has one... I'm probably jumping ship. I've exhausted my attempts with android... if either RAM or JB 4.1 doesn't fix this... I give up. I need my messages.
Suggestions? Am I overlooking anything?
THanks
Well more RAM can't hurt you, but it really after all depends on the device you're getting. These days I reckon as long as it isn't below 1GB RAM for a mobile device, then it's ok. As a matter of fact that's great
If I may suggest a mobile device for you to have a good look at, this would be the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. It's google's flagship phone, it's great, mostly gets the new updates first and is very reliable and clean. It isn't hard to root at all also, and is very true to its core, with google supporting it more than any other device. I currently have a Nexus S, the one that came before it. It's great, but would really need a bump in speed, I can see myself getting a new phone in 6 months, maybe when google come out with a new mobile device.
cheers, and good luck on finding a new phone.
That IS the phone I have.
Thanks,
Truman
It sounds like you have the same problems as iphone users at http://michaelhyatt.com/speed-up-iphone.html in which case switching to iphone probably won't help.
You could use a free app to backup your texts, "sms to text" is one which could help and you can save all or selected texts to txt or csv formats which would also mean you could search quicker when needed or transfer backups to a pc.
It seems it is a smartphone issue as opposed to model specific, based on a lot of googling not my personal experience though, but backing up would allow you to access the data as needed on other platforms.
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