Is there a definitive list of current apps that drain battery (whether on purpose or accidentally) in the background?
I have about a dozen apps installed and one that seems to consistently drain battery in the background is the Bank of America app. I'll notice my drain increasing dramatically throughout the day after I've used the app. Many hours later, I will see a Force Close message for the app.
I don't know what it's doing in the background, but it doesn't show up in the Running Applications or Services (I checked after I used and closed the app). Nonetheless, the Force Close message appears 4-6 hours later.
Has anyone else noticed similar behavior with the Bank of America app?
First make sure you don't have unneeded sync connections running. They are the fastest way to kill your battery.
Go to Settings > Accounts & Sync - Turn off the sync connections you don't need, especially anything HTC.
Use a task manager like ADT to monitor what apps are running. Some apps, like the ones included in the ROM will just run again, so no point in killing them. You could also use a battery monitoring app.
I've optimized my phone per best practices on these forums, but I'm talking about specific applications that may be buggy. The FC on the Bank of America app is unusual because it didn't show up in the Running Applications list, yet was killed later.
Are these Force Close messages (I've seen them for Bank of America and Pandora so far) Gingerbread killing off the app for memory? It usually happens many hours after I've opened the application.
This is my method: I kill all programs using the built-in task manager. Then I head to Running Services and whatever is there, it's draining battery.
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Please dont 'quote' this as it VERY lengthy, just copy and paste the this first sentence.
I wanted to write up a definitive posting on task killers as I think they are way to often misused and misunderstood and I am getting quite tired of reposting this same information.
I use a task killer called TaskPanel XTRA (its free). BUT, I ONLY use it for killing tasks that are misbehaving (an app that has slowed down or nearly hung your phone or an app that is CLEARLY causing battery drain or sending copious data via your cellular connection). If an app continues to misbehave, switch to a different app that offers the same functionality, do NOT continue to use a task manager / task killer to kill an app continuously.
Task killers should NEVER be configured to automatically kill an app (as I will explain later in the post) and should NEVER be used to manually kill apps UNLESS it is a small emergency (as in major battery drain, copious cellular data, massive processor usage/memory usage preventing the user from using the phone normally).
Android is a VERY powerful operating system which gives YOU THE USER the control to manage your phone (hence the major reason I dont like the IPhone or Windows Phone), but with that control comes responsibility. As I will explain shortly, Android has many built-in features in place to help you manage your phone's precious memory. While there has been much nonsense one way or the other as to whether task killers should be used for anything other than a misbehaving app, I tend to listen to the creators of a product before I listen to some jackass who bases a decision on pure speculation or a 'feeling' he has. I can tell you that I have not used Task Panel in the last 4 months (with the exception of I believe Pandora which I used about a month ago and could not find a way to actually exit the app - guess what...this app is no longer on my phone - both because of privacy concerns that recently came up about Pandora AND I dont keep apps around that I cant manually exit the app cleanly).
For a VERY good write up (with a brief 'readers digest' summary at the bottom with plain English bullet points, since most of the article is taken directly from the Android developer FAQ and is very techy for non-programmers), have a gander thru this.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-b...-with-android/
And for the FAQ they quote most of the above article from (but I do recommend you read the above FIRST as it will give you some context - much of the reasons are 'cherry picked' from different areas of the FAQ to help you understand why this is important and give you the information that is relevant to the discussion as to why task killers are not a good thing). All of the relevant information is in the page that will load up (in the rightmost panel / frame) so you dont need to click any links to read the relevant article. I am only providing this link as a reference to the original source material so you dont think I am just making this up - this is straight from the horses mouth so to speak (again, for most people, dont read this FAQ, read the one above first to get context and then if you feel you want to know more, read this link below).
http://developer.android.com/guide/t...damentals.html
Alright, enough about task killers, now to deal with how to manage those pesky apps that seem to always be running (even if you never started them) and how to keep them from starting up using a method that will NOT affect Android and how it manages your memory but will keep your phone in peek performance.
For managing the conditions when an app starts up, use an app called Autostarts, do NOT use a task killer to 'auto kill' tasks. Autostarts literally allows you to control the conditions of when an app starts.
Android has built in functionality for managing the memory footprint of various apps and will manage your phones memory quite nicely. Much of the functionality of the built in memory management came in Android 2.2 (also sometimes referred to as Froyo) and is really quite good 'if' you allow the phone to manage processes rather than just quickly killing everything.
There is a reason you can no longer just 'kill' system level processes, Google wants you to allow Android to 'learn' how to manage itself.
Android has a very powerful feature, the ability for app writers to start their app when certain conditions occur. The problem with this powerful feature is, often times, apps are bloated or poorly written, many times being started for any little thing your phone does (wifi on or off, Bluetooth on or off, location changes, screen on or off, USB connected, cellular connection, headphones connected, a cow fart, a bird poops, etc.). Even Google itself has been guilty of this, Google Maps (until recently) would be started in nearly 20 different conditions as a background process for very trivial things and was a major source of battery drain (it still is to some extent). This is where Autostarts comes in. Use Autostarts to control the conditions of when/if an app will start up automatically based on a certain condition.
Most ancillary apps (apps that are not integral to the core functioning of the phone - although it is probably more appropriate to refer to these as 'user apps', it isnt quite accurate because many 'system apps' (which in the technical description are apps that are installed with the rom) are not core apps either. For example, many roms come with Youtube pre-installed (meaning you do not manually have to go to the market and install them) which is not integral to the core functioning of the phone), these apps do NOT need to ever start under ANY condition for that app to function normally. The only considerations for an app starting itself would be the widget updating, the app has a scheduled event (for example, an alarm, a podcast client downloading podcasts at a certain time of day, Titanium backup performing a scheduled backup, etc.), or an app that has to be running in the background to perform a task when certain conditions arrive (for example, an app called Sanity needs to be available to run and monitor for incoming/outgoing phone calls so that it can start itself and perform its function during a phone call).
Using Autostarts, I have disabled nearly 80% of EVERY condition that all NON-system apps start under (I havent counted but for 70 apps, this is probably 55 apps or so that I disabled EVERYTHING these apps would start under). This includes Google Maps (yep, even Google is guilty of having an app needlessly running when it doesnt need to).
By taking control of your apps (in essence, disabling as many apps from 'auto starting' until YOU the user launch the app manually) and properly quitting an app when you can (within the app, find a way to click a 'quit' or 'exit' button to allow the app to remove itself from memory) rather than just allowing apps you launch to run in the background, you can save yourself massive amounts of battery life, limit cellular data usage, AND allow Android to properly manage itself.
Think of it like this, if I were trying to learn something but you (the user) kept doing it for me, Id never learn. And if you read the above linked article, you will begin to understand why there is more to this than just allowing Android to learn.
To give you an idea, using Autostarts to disable any non-system app that does not need to be running, if I am using the stock battery, I can run my phone for 2 days pretty easily if I simply turn off cellular data, Wifi and Bluetooth when I dont need it, maybe even stretch it to 3 days.
My ram usage is almost always around 50% (150 MB free) on a fresh reboot (around 2 minutes to allow the phone to stabilize) and it remains this way during the day because I exit apps when I am done using them, even tho I have around 80 apps installed, and I dont allow apps to just start themselves because they sensed a fart in my general direction.
For those of you that use a Windows PC, you can think of Autostarts as a proper 'msconfig'. Keeping your PC clean of apps when windows starts keeps your PC running much more smoothly. Autostarts takes this to the next level and keeps apps from ever starting in the first place rather than a task killer 'auto killing' a task, the app restarting, the app getting 'auto killed' again by the task killer, the app again restarting, etc. (a vicious cycle that both kills your battery because the phone has to crank up the cycles on the processor to both start and stop the app, the power used to write and clear the data written to both ram and 'perma' storage (if an app needs to store any data), and cellular data (if an app 'phones home' so to speak when it initially launches (which is both a cause for additional battery usage to send data and also adds to the amount of data your phone transmits over the cellular network, which is a problem given most cell plans have a monthly data cap).
Autostarts is fairly easy to use but does require root.
The app is $2 and here is a brief synopsis of how to use it:
When you initially launch the app, read any dialog messages that appear and click ok thru them. Then, wait for the app to finish loading (there is a progress bar at the top that will fill with yellow - on my phone it takes about 45 seconds to a minute to finish loading in).
Once it is loaded, you need to configure a few things BUT, you might want to just scroll thru the list of things currently on the screen. These are the 150+ conditions that apps currently installed on your phone are starting up under (dont click anything just yet, just browse the list if you are curious).
Right now, the app is configured to show a list categorized by conditions. This unfortunately is not very helpful. We need to change it to sort this list by apps rather than by conditions (so that we can literally disable EVERYTHING an app will automatically start under rather than scrolling thru every condition).
So, hit your menu button and the top left most icon in the menu that appears is an icon 'Group by application'. Hit that icon and magically, you are now seeing every app. You can now click an app and see all the conditions every app starts under. Neat.
But there is one more setting to change first in order to help keep you from doing something you should not.
(Optional but HIGHLY recommended!) Hit your menu button again (if you exited out of the menu already) and hit the upper right most icon, the 'View' button. Tick the topmost checkbox, 'Hide system apps' and hit the 'Ok' button. This will keep you from disabling anything that 'may' be critical to your phone operating.
Now, exit the menu (the 'back' button on the phone itself).
If you decided not to hide system apps, these will appear in YELLOW. It is probably not a good idea to mess with these unless you know what you are doing. Messing with these can cause a soft brick or make your phone unusable in certain conditions (for example, if you prevent the phone.apk app from ever starting, you will never be able to take phone calls).
Now, start scrolling thru the list (start at the top). If it is an app that does NOT need to run in the background, expand the app by selecting it and starting with the topmost condition that app starts under, tap each condition and in the menu that appears, select 'Disable'. Do this for ALL conditions for each app you want to manage. When you are done disabling the conditions, go to the next app and decide again whether that app needs to run in the background or not.
As a brief summary, to consider whether an app should be allowed to run in the background, ask yourself the following:
Does the app:
a. ...have a widget that you are actually using on your home screen that needs to update? For example, a media player or weather widget should NOT be disabled...
b. ...have a scheduled event such as checking the weather, downloading new podcasts, checking email, etc?
c. ...need to perform a certain task or provide some extra function(s) when a specific event happens (such as recording a phone call when it comes in, an eq when audio is playing, etc.)?
My recommendation is, if you answered YES to any of the above questions, leave all the conditions that app starts under alone (unless you know what you are doing, its best not to mess with it as I will explain in a moment).
If you answered NO to all the above, DISABLE ALL of the conditions that app starts under (again, DONT mess with system (yellow) apps and certainly dont disable every condition for these).
I recommend an all or nothing approach for each app is because if an app doesnt behave properly, it can become a major pain to continue to open Autostarts and try to track down a specific condition you disabled that is stopping / preventing that app from functioning the way you want it to.
Every time you update or install an app, if you remember, try to open autostarts and review the conditions the app starts under. Updated apps often times will add something new and if you have this app completely disabled, it may find a way to start itself again.
And, dont worry, you cant permanently screw anything up (unless you are messing with system apps - get the reason why I recommend not playing with system apps?). If an app stops functioning correctly, just re-enable the conditions that app starts under. Pretty easy.
Hopefully, this is complete enough, I will now just link to this post everytime I need to mention autostarts. I am getting quite tired of posting this same information .
Good information for people. Well done.
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Whilst I am aware that this happens occasionally at HTC's end, I just wanted to share some of the weird things that have happened recently.
The weather app is behaving erratically - have all location services enabled (bar GPS) and it refused to update the 'current location' when it auto syncs, or when I manually force it to sync. It has been stuck at the location I was in yesterday which isn't much use!
I have tried deleting the widget and reloading etc.
The only thing which makes it update is if I turn off 'Fastboot' and do a power cycle, then it works?
Anyone else had the same thing? Anything obvious I am missing?
Are you indoors? If so try to turn off GPS sync. That might work.
If not then navigate to menu> settings> applications> manage applications> all> and find weather widget, weather, and weather provider. Tap each one and choose Clear Data or Clear Cache for each one as needed. Then soft reset the phone by powering off, remove the battery for at least 30 seconds, replace it, then restart. This will ensure that all of the cached data and device RAM is cleared, and that your connection to your mobile network gets refreshed.
Hope this helps
I been fixing by disabling sync, rebooting the device and re-enabling it, but I do not think I should have to do this all the time. Does the app need to be running in the background for it to work? Thanks
Are you killing it with a task killer?
I am going to settings then the account and sync. I was looking in the settings and under developer there appears to be a limit to the amount of background processes. Currently it's set to default. Could I just have too many processes open?
What ROM are you on?
Does anyone have
a) Startup Manager (supposedly was in Phone Manager...)
b) Detailed Battery Info → App Auto Launch Permission Toggle?
I don't! I need to find out why some of my applications fail to Auto Start at boot, those that I want to. I do not use any 3rd party Task Manager nor Task Killers.
Also, these apps are in "Protected Apps" and "Ignore Battery Optimizations"; Battery is in Performance.
This is driving me crazy. Huawei needs to fix these "bugs" and release updates more frequently!
Same issue here. Seems Huawei's software is blocking apps from launching at system boot.
Any updates on this?