Disclaimer: This post should be read in a "suggestive" tone, not a "complainy" tone.
This forum is called "Dream android development," but it seems like most of the posts are not really related to Android development, but rather Dream/Android hacking.
It might be more helpful for everyone to easily find what they are looking if a separate Dream forum were created called "Dream Hacking" and all these hacking-related posts moved there... and then this forum could be dedicated to development (OS/ROM/application development, coding, etc.).
There are several forums dedicated to Android Development (like anddev.org and the dev forum at talkandroid.com), but I like xda-developers for all my HTC-related development forum needs!
Thoughts?
Also, because I'm in the Dream Android Development forum I suppose I ought to post something about Android Development... does anyone have any suggestions or experience on implementing a Trial Period feature in an Android app? I could write a date to a file that marks the first time the user runs the app, and then check that date on every run to see if they are past their trial period end date. But what's to stop the user from uninstalling and reinstalling, to get a new install date and trial period?
http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/08ce5ab110c56b29?pli=1 (Google Groups question on the subject, FYI)
acrosser said:
Disclaimer: This post should be read in a "suggestive" tone, not a "complainy" tone.
This forum is called "Dream android development," but it seems like most of the posts are not really related to Android development, but rather Dream/Android hacking.
It might be more helpful for everyone to easily find what they are looking if a separate Dream forum were created called "Dream Hacking" and all these hacking-related posts moved there... and then this forum could be dedicated to development (OS/ROM/application development, coding, etc.).
There are several forums dedicated to Android Development (like anddev.org and the dev forum at talkandroid.com), but I like xda-developers for all my HTC-related development forum needs!
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I definitely agree. Splitting development and hacking into two forums makes sense. Let's move all the rooting threads over to a new hacking forum and keep the discussion of application development here.
I believe XDA uses development as the PC word for hacking if you look at all of the other forums that do the same thing this thread does for other OS it is called development which really is what is done in this thread as no one is really hacking per say because it is all open source.
Also, who is going to go through 60 pages of threads and move the relevant ones to a new subforum?
Sounds like a good idea, but I have to agree with Plastriq.
If I was a mod, I definitely would not want to go through and re-organize a whole subforum and split it up, when it already worked well enough for the everyday user to be okay with it...
I'm pretty sure the moderators here feel somewhat the same.
I made the suggestion to the admins. I will send them over here. I agree we need another forum... however I think one forum should be for help and one for development/hacking while keeping the dream forum for news/info and the other forums for their intended purpose.
Maybe one could be for Android development or Android Modification and one could be for Android Application development.
I like the idea of splitting this section.
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Sounds like a good idea, but I have to agree with Plastriq.
If I was a mod, I definitely would not want to go through and re-organize a whole subforum and split it up, when it already worked well enough for the everyday user to be okay with it...
I'm pretty sure the moderators here feel somewhat the same.
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Okay, then how about renaming this thread to "Dream Android Modification" (or Hacking... and even though it's open source, most of it is still hacking... because Google doesn't explicitly allow rooting, flashing the ROM, etc. on non-Dev Phone 1's).
Then create a new forum called Android Development, and give it a higher priority/level... because there will be several Android devices in the near future besides the Dream, and we don't need an Android Development forum for each individual device.
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Okay, then how about renaming this thread to "Dream Android Modification" (or Hacking... and even though it's open source, most of it is still hacking... because Google doesn't explicitly allow rooting, flashing the ROM, etc. on non-Dev Phone 1's).
Then create a new forum called Android Development, and give it a higher priority/level... because there will be several Android devices in the near future besides the Dream, and we don't need an Android Development forum for each individual device.
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They're still left with the problem of moving all of the current development threads into the new forum... :/
You do have a point though, sooner or later there will be different Android devices. Cleaning up the forums, as daunting a task as it might be right now, will be better than waiting until later when it ABSOLUTELY NEEDS to happen and they're more overloaded.
As said I would have no problem cleaning them up and have asked in the staff forums.
If any of you would like to help once the forums are made just shoot me a PM with all the threads that should be moved and I will move them even faster.
I have noticed that there have been many posts in both general and development forums with general questions that have nothing to do with the purpose of either forum.
If a mod is reading this, I believe there should be a Q&A forum like on the Nexus One page where people who just have simple questions can post them instead of filling the General/Dev page with irrelevant info.
as a reminder:
the android development page is for developers. if you are not a developer or asking a development question then please don't post there
Hopefully a mod reads this... I was tempted to start this in the development section as it seems that nobody cares what is posted there...
Why are all AOSP threads mixed in with general development? Cm10 discussions, jellybro, aokp, liquid. It's hard to keep track of certain threads when they get buried in the incorrect development section. If a mod reads this, can you please move all original development related threads to the appropriate section? (Sorry if I misunderstand what that sub section is for, but I think I'm on the right track)
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You need to report each thread that you think needs moved. I have tried and pretty much was told they are in the right spot. This forum is so unorganized...there might aswell be no q&a section either since just as many questions are posted in the general section.
The difference between the "android development" and the "original android development"
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Android Development = Sense based roms (ICS)
Original Android Development = AOSP roms (Usually JB)
Trackstar996 said:
The difference between the "android development" and the "original android development"
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just cocked the gun, putting it to my head now....:crying:
must stay away from Q&A, must stay away from Q&A, must stay....
Q&A are bad....
words from our esteemed leader Red5 aka Gold Leader aka Red5:
"Lets start things off right by first, searching the forums for a thread thats already been started and look for people that may have already encountered what you are experiencing and possibly have a fix for. If not, then you can post in that ALREADY EXISTING thread instead of starting a new thread.
When starting a new thread, it needs to go in the right section. If its a question, then it needs to go in the Q&A section. If its a generalized thread about something related to the HOX, then it goes in the General section.
NOTE: Questions should not be posted in the General section. The Development section is STRICTLY made for development. A new thread should not be started in the Development thread unless it is to introduce a new tool/guide/rom/kernel/radio... anything dev related. If you start a new thread in the Development section that is not development related, your thread will be deleted and you will be infracted. Let this be your final warning.
With all of this falling into place, the forums will be much cleaner and will function more smoothly. With that, the developers will be able to address issues more efficiently and will not feel overwhelmed. The last thing we want is for our developers to take time away from developing because of redundant posts asking "how do I do this?". We want them to continue on with development for our device, so lets help them out.
Do your part to take some time and search/read the forums because chances are, your question or issue has already been addressed. If this cant be done, then I will have to put on the gloves and start weeding out the trouble makers until this forum is back under control and operating smoothly. "
There's a few of us out there with old devices. Quite a few stuck with Android 2.1.
If I post in my device forum (Nook NST) we only have 3-4 active members discussing.
It would be nice to have all Android 2.1 devices under one roof as well as their own sections (tags). I see the same problem with non rooted i9000 discussion and plenty of others.
If we try to post in a more general forum our posts get deleted. What can we do? Individually we are few, together we are many.
I run Cyanogenmod where I can to try to cut down this such versioning but the xda forum is also a problem.
I'm sure there was a section for discussing the forum itself before