[Q] WebTOP Possible? - Samsung Infuse 4G

Hello, i used to have an atrix... then a photon and i still got them around but ofc im using the Infuse.
I was used to the WebTOP thing those motorola phones included in wich with just a bit of modifications it was an actually funtional "large screen" mobile computer; as soon as i got the Infuse i go and try the HDMI to realize its just HDMI "mirroring" so it just displays what you have on he screen... so seemengly "useless" at that time i went for rogers GB base ROMs since i wasnt gonna use HDMI.
Anyways now that i see the kernel problem with Rogers GB that didnt let HDMI go out its fixed with the J2 leak i went curious about HDMI again. Still whats the big deal to create the WebTOP display and can it be " ported" easily to Samsung? Or its device specific too hard etc etc?
Would be nice to not just have HDMI mirror but a kind of "WebTOP" for the Infuse since you can turn it into an awesome " micro laptop" with about 15 minuts of mods run full ubuntu etc.
Closest i have found its this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179824
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162662
I know its probably hardware things still....
If anyone could be so kind of explaining me whats the deal about only motorola being able to run a WebTOP OR if its possible to just pull the apks from my photon/atrix and run them on Infuse?

koriotto said:
Hello, i used to have an atrix... then a photon and i still got them around but ofc im using the Infuse.
I was used to the WebTOP thing those motorola phones included in wich with just a bit of modifications it was an actually funtional "large screen" mobile computer; as soon as i got the Infuse i go and try the HDMI to realize its just HDMI "mirroring" so it just displays what you have on he screen... so seemengly "useless" at that time i went for rogers GB base ROMs since i wasnt gonna use HDMI.
Anyways now that i see the kernel problem with Rogers GB that didnt let HDMI go out its fixed with the J2 leak i went curious about HDMI again. Still whats the big deal to create the WebTOP display and can it be " ported" easily to Samsung? Or its device specific too hard etc etc?
Would be nice to not just have HDMI mirror but a kind of "WebTOP" for the Infuse since you can turn it into an awesome " micro laptop" with about 15 minuts of mods run full ubuntu etc.
I know its probably hardware things still....
If anyone could be so kind of explaining me whats the deal about only motorola being able to run a WebTOP OR if its possible to just pull the apks from my photon/atrix and run them on Infuse?
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Web top is lame, hwy I can run Web apps and browse Web sites like any other browser. I really don't get it.
You can actually run Linux in place of the Web top on the atrix but it had limitations last I looked. But yeah it is kinda motorola specific. Though if you install Linux to the sd card it is possible to ruin it along side Android. Then with a set of apps you may be able to access it with vnc software through Android to display the GUI on an hdmi device.
I'd imagine this would be slow and take a while to setup but it could be fun try.

Dani897 said:
Web top is lame, hwy I can run Web apps and browse Web sites like any other browser. I really don't get it.
You can actually run Linux in place of the Web top on the atrix but it had limitations last I looked. But yeah it is kinda motorola specific. Though if you install Linux to the sd card it is possible to ruin it along side Android. Then with a set of apps you may be able to access it with vnc software through Android to display the GUI on an hdmi device.
I'd imagine this would be slow and take a while to setup but it could be fun try.
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Yeah i mean i know you can basicly run browser like desktop etc, still maybe its my bigscree or my infuse but it scales so ugly it doesnt quite looks " HD" and the fact that its always portrait unless you open a video... maybe im playing wrong with MHL and my big screen but the videos dont look as good as i would expect, and again i repeat maybe im doing somethign wron but i sometimes use netflix on my infuse and put it on the bigscreen by the MHL adaptor and it looks UGLY choppy slow etc... if im doing something wrong would be nice if someone helped me out... its a 52" 1080p screen im connecting directly the MHL to hd cable to tv... and running froyo stock atm... looks bad videos look choppy dar sounds sometimes syncs off etc...
thats why i asked about the webtop cause it created an external emvironmet "ugly one" still looked so good while running videos etc that i could say " hey now thats hd"

koriotto said:
Yeah i mean i know you can basicly run browser like desktop etc, still maybe its my bigscree or my infuse but it scales so ugly it doesnt quite looks " HD" and the fact that its always portrait unless you open a video... maybe im playing wrong with MHL and my big screen but the videos dont look as good as i would expect, and again i repeat maybe im doing somethign wron but i sometimes use netflix on my infuse and put it on the bigscreen by the MHL adaptor and it looks UGLY choppy slow etc... if im doing something wrong would be nice if someone helped me out... its a 52" 1080p screen im connecting directly the MHL to hd cable to tv... and running froyo stock atm... looks bad videos look choppy dar sounds sometimes syncs off etc...
thats why i asked about the webtop cause it created an external emvironmet "ugly one" still looked so good while running videos etc that i could say " hey now thats hd"
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Yeah the scaling sux, but video playback isn't mirrored the phone screen should be off and it should output high Res video. A lot of the hdmi stuff is closed source and I don't know if the devs can figure out a way to interface with it. I wouldn't be optimistic about a better way.
Are you playing videos pdf the sd card oder flash off websites? If the Samsung player is running and you go full screen it should look ok. If it is windowed or uses the flash powered video player then there isn't any way I know of to get better than 480x800 res with bad upscaling. Try forcing the TV into 480p and see if the sharpness improves, other than that, I guess you have to deal with it.

Dani897 said:
Yeah the scaling sux, but video playback isn't mirrored the phone screen should be off and it should output high Res video. A lot of the hdmi stuff is closed source and I don't know if the devs can figure out a way to interface with it. I wouldn't be optimistic about a better way.
Are you playing videos pdf the sd card oder flash off websites? If the Samsung player is running and you go full screen it should look ok. If it is windowed or uses the flash powered video player then there isn't any way I know of to get better than 480x800 res with bad upscaling. Try forcing the TV into 480p and see if the sharpness improves, other than that, I guess you have to deal with it.
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Hmm idk how netflix works to be honest... but the screen nevers goes off while im playing a movie... that puts the phone temp REALLY hot after 2.30 hrs of playing with the screen on... i havent tried any videos directly from Video player i was saying Netflix quiality trough HDMI SUCKED haha...ill give it a shot at forcing the tv to go 480p thats actually a nice idea i didnt had... tnks man.

You are lucky you can even mirror Netflix. Samsung can't even allow there own media hub to mirror, the studios won't allow it. It would be too ready to record and distribute, media hub videos are only licenced to playback on the device. running mhl only gives you a message about how it isn't supported.

Dani897 said:
You are lucky you can even mirror Netflix. Samsung can't even allow there own media hub to mirror, the studios won't allow it. It would be too ready to record and distribute, media hub videos are only licenced to playback on the device. running mhl only gives you a message about how it isn't supported.
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Lol thats true, then ill stick with what i can get hahaha.

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[Q] Gtab as a monitor (is it possible?)

Hi, just had an idea and I thought I'd post it to see if there is any apps like this or if it is even possible?
Would it be possible to use a tablet pc as a monitor, either to extend your pc desktop, or to play xbox 360, or PS3 on? (no one cares about the wii, ha ha) The console controllers are wireless, it would be awesome if the screen could be wireless too. You wouldn't need to stop playing for a bathroom break, ha ha.
It has wireless and bluetooth, has nvidia tegra 2, and can play 1080p video, it seems as though the hardware is in place to do it... I'm not sure about bluetooth, but wifi should be more than fast enough to stream the video and audio.
There would most likely need to be software on both sides to get it to work.
Anyway, just thought I'd bring it up, any ideas?
SnakeManJayd said:
Hi, just had an idea and I thought I'd post it to see if there is any apps like this or if it is even possible?
Would it be possible to use a tablet pc as a monitor, either to extend your pc desktop, or to play xbox 360, or PS3 on? (no one cares about the wii, ha ha) The console controllers are wireless, it would be awesome if the screen could be wireless too. You wouldn't need to stop playing for a bathroom break, ha ha.
It has wireless and bluetooth, has nvidia tegra 2, and can play 1080p video, it seems as though the hardware is in place to do it... I'm not sure about bluetooth, but wifi should be more than fast enough to stream the video and audio.
There would most likely need to be software on both sides to get it to work.
Anyway, just thought I'd bring it up, any ideas?
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I don't see it happening. Definitely not with the consoles, opens up a whole HDCP / DRM can of worms. As to a PC, you can always use a remote desktop app.
Would you really want to?
Tablets are a compromise between screen real-estate and portability. Their screens are half the size of the smallest desktop monitors you can buy and low-end monitors aren't that expensive.
If you want dual screens on your PC, buying a second monitor is a far superior option than slaving your tablet screen to your desktop PC.
Fair enough.
Just thought it would be useful.
You can!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.idisplay.virtualscreen&feature=search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBD-H8Bhehc&feature=related
Check it out...
Haha, that's crazy.
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discord2k said:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.idisplay.virtualscreen&feature=search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBD-H8Bhehc&feature=related
Check it out...
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Running Vegan7 here and iDisplay works, mainly use it for a status monitor as I already have 3 24" widescreens, just seemed like a novel idea.
chad
Wow, that's really cool.
That's actually exactly what I had in mind when I started this thread. Awesome.
Still don't have a tablet yet. Have one on the way though.
How does it work? Software on pc and tablet communicate over wifi?
Thanks
I got my Xoom now and the iDisplay does seem to work.
Here is a review of a friend of mine using it on his.
Yep, this was exactly what I had in mind when I posted this thread. It's slow and buggy, but I'm sure it will improve and it does work for certain functions.
Yes, this idea has been around in different forms for different OSes for quite a while. Sorry, but truly new ideas for apps are really few and far between.
discord2k said:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.idisplay.virtualscreen&feature=search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBD-H8Bhehc&feature=related
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Sweet!
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[Q] Hdmi out Problems

Seem to be having HDMI out problems, I bought this phone so I can watch my movies out to a big screen, I tried it on two different TVs. At first it works, and then when I try stuff or like try to play angry birds it start flickering going back and forth from snow back to the phone, sometimes just stops working all together. Also it looks like crap, like trying to use the web or what not, especially text.
when I try to watch 720p movies i downloaded in like mkv, they play so smooth and look great on the phone, but out to the TV, most times the phone will slow completely down, and get really choppy and laggy, if you try to get the menu back or play buttons. if it does play it doesn't look like a 720p should, comparing on playing the file on my computer, it looks pixelated and doesn't play that smooth, kinda gives you motion sickness sometimes.
Does anyone else have these problems, is this a defective phone that I should return? can anyone confirm.
also just curious, I seen other people say they played the trailers that came on their phones and it looked great. Mine didn't come with any trailers on it.
Well mine came with trailers, though I didn't try looking at them on the big screen...I did, however, look at several high resolution pictures and a 1080p video that looked great on the PHONE'S display and it's like the output is the same resolution as the phone's display (800x480) and it's just stretched to fit the screen...makes it look I'm watching an old DVD...
Because angry bird are only made for phones not a 720p resolution, lol angry bird on TV haha buy Xbox or ps2 much better ;p
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The phone can not handle playback on a big screen unfortunately. The chopiness is purely due to processor lag. The hdmi out is more for presentations, not super useful
Angry Birds plays fine on my TV. As a matter of fact my nephew was playing it last night. It looks amazing on my TV. Try using an expensive HDMI cable, the cheap ones will not work. I had 2 HDMI cables and I first used the one that was like $20 and had this issue so i switched that out for the $50 cable and bam no problems. It really depends on the cable. Because of the info that's being sent thru the cable. Along with movies, I have a music video on my phone in .mp4 format in 1080p that plays perfectly, me and my friend were watching it like 20 times the other day.
Why can't i watch media hub on my tv it says it can't play on my tv when the app is running
doost650 said:
Angry Birds plays fine on my TV. As a matter of fact my nephew was playing it last night. It looks amazing on my TV. Try using a different HDMI cable, yours may be defective/may not support the current standard. I had 2 HDMI cables and both had this issue so i switched that out for a different cable and bam no problems. It really depends on the cable. Because of the info that's being sent thru the cable. Along with movies, I have a music video on my phone in .mp4 format in 1080p that plays perfectly, me and my friend were watching it like 20 times the other day.
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Fixed that for you, you just need to accept that you got ripped off!
Godhandfreedom said:
Why can't i watch media hub on my tv it says it can't play on my tv when the app is running
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Because the movies are copy protected. It a feature of the Media Hub. Samsung probably doesnt want people to pirate the movies/tv shows they sell on there.
dfxda said:
Seem to be having HDMI out problems, I bought this phone so I can watch my movies out to a big screen, I tried it on two different TVs. At first it works, and then when I try stuff or like try to play angry birds it start flickering going back and forth from snow back to the phone, sometimes just stops working all together. Also it looks like crap, like trying to use the web or what not, especially text.
when I try to watch 720p movies i downloaded in like mkv, they play so smooth and look great on the phone, but out to the TV, most times the phone will slow completely down, and get really choppy and laggy, if you try to get the menu back or play buttons. if it does play it doesn't look like a 720p should, comparing on playing the file on my computer, it looks pixelated and doesn't play that smooth, kinda gives you motion sickness sometimes.
Does anyone else have these problems, is this a defective phone that I should return? can anyone confirm.
also just curious, I seen other people say they played the trailers that came on their phones and it looked great. Mine didn't come with any trailers on it.
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Try a different player like rockplayer or I think vlc is out now too... Stock video player sucks. Also try removing stage-fright enable player = false.... See if that helps, its a line in the build.prop.

[Q] HDMI cutting out

Is anyone having a problem with the hdmi signal cutting out on their g2x? i plug it in and i was watching a netflix movie, it would go black for about 2 seconds and then show again. Thought it might be a netflix problem till i tried youtube and also playing a movie off of my sdcard. The picture looks great and it seems to be working perfect accept for the screen going black. Its pluged into a50 inch plasma 1080p tv and im using eaglebloods gingerbread rom which doesnt have hmdi options in the settings is this an issue with that rom?
same.
I have the problem, its so annoying, only happens when mirroring hd video. Maybe its the cheap ebay cable im using? or the rom?
if you guys are using CM7 its a common issue since CM doesnt support HDMI output. thats why there isnt a setting of it, of course it still works with games and everything but the movie playing is what it has a problem with. hope this helps

Allshare - selected apps or true mirror, wifi or direct?

In my endlessly circular deliberations between Note 10.1 and Nexus 10 I am now focussing on streaming to TV.
Can anyone answer whether the Allshare adaptor for TV
a Works with the Note 10.1
b Mirrors the screen exactly or only streams selected content (video/music/photos etc)
c Requires a Wifi connection as well as an HDMI and separate power source
Many thanks
a. Yes
b. Yes
c. no yes yes
chamberc said:
a. Yes
b. Yes
c. no yes yes
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Excellent, that may have swung it, as rumours seem to indicate that N10 miracast support is not functioning, despite being capable.
I looked at ipad/Airplay but that's over Wifi which means it's largely non-portable.
Thank you
I very much enjoy my allshare. Plus after registering with samsung, they gave me 50% off, so that was nice, getting the adapter for only 50 bucks!
When watching netflix, youtube, or hulu, it will put the video on the tv and you can use the seek function on the note. Also, with the youtube app, you can have the video play in full screen on the tv and do limited browsing on the note, like the related to videos and stuff like that while you are finishing up your current video. I haven't noticed much out of sync with the videos, I think that mostly has to do the my internets at the time because I have had the same kind of issues using hdmi and my laptop. It is soooo much nicer not having any wires to mess with, just connect on demand. It makes this by far the coolest thing, plus the ir transmitter so you can do everything on the note.
One thing I did have to do, after doing a lot of flashing and changing a lot of stuff, not sure if you would be doing the same, but I had to use triangle away to reset my flash count to get it to work, most other people never have to do that, but for whatever resaon that is the only way I got it to work for me
Great. I probably won't root yet anyway. Unless it is required for all share.
I'm going to wait until the official jb update then root after that.
Swype'd at pace from my Galaxy S2
does the Allshare dongle Support Miracast ? possible to connect via Nexus 7/10 to that dongle? or via Windows WiFi direct+special Tool?
kinda sad that the dongle needa external Power And is huge. But Else cool stuff.
If you are referring to the wireless adapter, it works very well and works with hbo go and YouTube. It works well enough that I just went and bought this tablet due to the fact that I used it with my sgs3.
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Need help with netflix on rooted S8+

Hi,
I have an issue on my phone, Netflix is only playing back in really low resolution. I noticed it looked noticeably worse on my phone than on my pc, even though the resolution of my phone is higher than my pc's display, which is 1440p. It's weird cause I have been able to watch it at hd back when I first got the phone a year ago.
I have the most expensive netflix package, so that can't be the issue. I have enabled high quality playback in both my browser and in the android app, I've check my phone to be on the list of devices that support HD playback so I really dont know what it could be.
I've checked with those "test patterns", they say it plays back at 960x540, thats not what im paying for. No matter what movie or series I try watching on my phone, even shows like the crown which i know to be available in 4k dont look good.
Does anyone know what it could be or something I could try?
I've also tried contacting support but they just tell me that it's my internet though I simply know its not. My internet is plenty fast, I play back at way higher res on my pc which is on the same network. Either way its fast enough, 50 up and 50 down.
So on your PC or home screen you get 4K just fine, but your phone (data) is not streaming in any HD?
If so I'd guess the phone company might be fux'in with you. See if someone else gets Netflix on their phone and how their HD streaming goes. All
ok there, then try your Netflix account on someone else's phone. You will solve this. You just need a bit more info until the ah moment.

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