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Need ADB? Im using windows?

edit: Sorry, i forgot to hit the "yes this is a question" box
So, im trying to root my new Thunderbolt so i can make it verMYzon.
Anyways, cheesy things aside, while using the thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616 it says "Note, ADB required."
What really does that mean and where can i get it for my Windows 7 / Thunderbolt combo?
The only root method i know is the ancient forms of one click with original cm and a G1

Try download android sdk ;-)
**DamianGTO ultimate kernel v1.3 * 600Hz * 346MB RAM * OC/UV * 1280MHZ**

Thanks! You helped out a bit!
Now im setting up everything and following the guides...but, All i really want root for is to get rid of the MASSIVE amount of bloat and make backups.
And of course later, get rid or change this unpersonalizable "personalize" button...

Superthrust said:
Thanks! You helped out a bit!
Now im setting up everything and following the guides...but, All i really want root for is to get rid of the MASSIVE amount of bloat and make backups.
And of course later, get rid or change this unpersonalizable "personalize" button...
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root is another story what device do you own? adb can indeed remove bloatware but your device need to be rooted to work

nicandris said:
root is another story what device do you own? adb can indeed remove bloatware but your device need to be rooted to work
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Im using the Thunderbolt. I got it rooted last night, but due to a defective unit or something, my phone wouldn't accept my transferred number from Tmobile to Verizon. I now have a new phone and will not be rerooting. Maybe i did something wrong? kept saying "phone could not be authenticated at this time..." when i tried calling someone.
But also, all md5 sums were correct. I just wanna get rid of these stupid games i wont use, and maybe a cool looking rom. but my top priority is CHANGE THIS STUPID PERSONALIZE BUTTON to something useful...Like quick access to camera.
Actually...if someone could help me just change it to a quick access to camera INSTEAD of "personalize" using the stock rom, that would be great...

Superthrust said:
Im using the Thunderbolt. I got it rooted last night, but due to a defective unit or something, my phone wouldn't accept my transferred number from Tmobile to Verizon. I now have a new phone and will not be rerooting. Maybe i did something wrong? kept saying "phone could not be authenticated at this time..." when i tried calling someone.
But also, all md5 sums were correct. I just wanna get rid of these stupid games i wont use, and maybe a cool looking rom. but my top priority is CHANGE THIS STUPID PERSONALIZE BUTTON to something useful...Like quick access to camera.
Actually...if someone could help me just change it to a quick access to camera INSTEAD of "personalize" using the stock rom, that would be great...
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You might want to brew yourself a cup of coffee -- or an ocean for that matter. You see, the Thunderbolt comes with a signature check to make sure that you are running HTC's key. So custom ROMs might take awhile
I could be, of course, saying this like an idiot; I haven't read my feeds in the past week and I'm too exhausted to check. It's a possibility that this has changed. I will delete my post if someone proves me right.

You know, i liked your response. I understand what youre getting at, but i mean, if there is a mod i can attach to the STOCK rom just to repurpose the personalize button, i'd love to try testing it.
Plus...I might have a lead on the sig check key...if anyone looks closely...its surprisingly similar to one we've seen before of a terribad phone...but due to an issue, i need to reinstall a "better" SDK or something to help test since my new laptop don't like linux

Superthrust said:
You know, i liked your response. I understand what youre getting at, but i mean, if there is a mod i can attach to the STOCK rom just to repurpose the personalize button, i'd love to try testing it.
Plus...I might have a lead on the sig check key...if anyone looks closely...its surprisingly similar to one we've seen before of a terribad phone...but due to an issue, i need to reinstall a "better" SDK or something to help test since my new laptop don't like linux
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Try going to Settings > Applications > Quick Launch you might find something there

I dont see quick launch under Applications...
Settings>Applications>"Unknown Sources, Manage Applications, Running Services, Development, Fast Boot"

Can I get custom tile colors without unlocking?

Let me preface this by saying I still don't 'quite' understand the unlocking thing and all the different methods. I think I'd like to stay away from unlocking because it seems it's a hassle and could cause issues with future updates and overall things occasionally not working correctly. The whole reason I have this phone is because of the fact that it pretty much always works as it should. Also with what appears to be no good apps to sideload, I'm not really sure the purpose of unlocking?
Anyway, is there an easy way to just get custom tile colors like black and white, or do I need to first unlock? And if I do need to unlock, is there a simple method that doesn't really increase my chances of my device getting screwy?

cgibsong002 said:
Let me preface this by saying I still don't 'quite' understand the unlocking thing and all the different methods. I think I'd like to stay away from unlocking because it seems it's a hassle and could cause issues with future updates and overall things occasionally not working correctly. The whole reason I have this phone is because of the fact that it pretty much always works as it should. Also with what appears to be no good apps to sideload, I'm not really sure the purpose of unlocking?
Anyway, is there an easy way to just get custom tile colors like black and white, or do I need to first unlock? And if I do need to unlock, is there a simple method that doesn't really increase my chances of my device getting screwy?
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The short answer is: No
The long answer: Unless MS delivers an update in the future that allows you to change accent colors you need an unlocked phone for now. On Mango the program that allows you to change accent colors is Advanced Config Tool by Schaps.
read more here.
As to your preface. Unlocking is not too risky anymore if you follow Heathcliff's post. The purpose of unlocking is exactly to do things you are asking for, e.g. customization like custom accents, icons, tile folders etc.
Also, I am not sure what you mean by "issues with future updates and overall things occasionally not working correctly". I have never experienced problems with unlocking. You may lose it when you upgrade, but that's it.

derausgewanderte said:
The short answer is: No
The long answer: Unless MS delivers an update in the future that allows you to change accent colors you need an unlocked phone for now. On Mango the program that allows you to change accent colors is Advanced Config Tool by Schaps.
read more here.
As to your preface. Unlocking is not too risky anymore if you follow Heathcliff's post. The purpose of unlocking is exactly to do things you are asking for, e.g. customization like custom accents, icons, tile folders etc.
Also, I am not sure what you mean by "issues with future updates and overall things occasionally not working correctly". I have never experienced problems with unlocking. You may lose it when you upgrade, but that's it.
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So it sounds like what you're saying is that the worst that would likely happen is re-locking when an update comes? I'd be worried about the opposite: not being able to upgrade. The other thing I meant was, I hear about things not working correctly and getting errors and stuff when unlocking. I'm unclear whether these are simply errors that do not effect the phones original functionality, or if it can start to mess with the phone itself and cause errors, freezing, etc.
edit: and I was reading heathcliff's unlock. is that a secondary unlock that you can do after you're already developer unlocked? is there a free way to dev unlock or is the best solution now to use chevron? I also read something about a free account for students but it mentioned needing to submit apps which I'm unaware of how to do.

nevermind, thanks for the help! figured i'd give everything a try. dev unlocked, inter-op unlocked, and used advanced config tools and changed my theme! what other fun things can i do now?

cgibsong002 said:
nevermind, thanks for the help! figured i'd give everything a try. dev unlocked, inter-op unlocked, and used advanced config tools and changed my theme! what other fun things can i do now?
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you can try this or this for now. Or this.
remember that mango was only released recently. There will be more customization apps developed soon.

Email Exchange(Outlook)

Is there any way to still use the slide function to unlock the phone while having an exchange(outlook) mail setup? to keep entering in a pin is killing me. Thanks. Hopefully there is some sort of trickeration for this.

bigjobber69 said:
Is there any way to still use the slide function to unlock the phone while having an exchange(outlook) mail setup? to keep entering in a pin is killing me. Thanks. Hopefully there is some sort of trickeration for this.
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If it is forcing a pin, it is because your exchange administrator forced the policy on the server, which in turn forces it on your phone as soon as you accept the policy when adding the account to your phone. I doubt that you will be able to get around it. I am an Exchange Admin here in our district, and I do not enforce that policy, but I know most do... Try contacting your admin and asking him/her to remove it.
Good Luck!

There are ROMs that come with modified Email apks that do not enforce your administrator's security settings. I know that Jelly Beans ROM from Beanstown has that and I'm pretty sure some of the AOSP roms do as well. You can probably get this as a seperate flashable mod, but I haven't seen it myself.
Of course depending on where you work, there may be a good reason why your admin chose this route, so proceed with caution.

funnyperson1 said:
There are ROMs that come with modified Email apks that do not enforce your administrator's security settings. I know that Jelly Beans ROM from Beanstown has that and I'm pretty sure some of the AOSP roms do as well. You can probably get this as a seperate flashable mod, but I haven't seen it myself.
Of course depending on where you work, there may be a good reason why your admin chose this route, so proceed with caution.
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Yeah i'm running CM10 and its def not in there...Would love to see a flashable mod for this..

bigjobber69 said:
Is there any way to still use the slide function to unlock the phone while having an exchange(outlook) mail setup? to keep entering in a pin is killing me. Thanks. Hopefully there is some sort of trickeration for this.
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SynergyRom in the Verizon SIII android development section has an option (selectable during setup in Aroma) to bypass Exchange Security. In addition, the OP has a link to a specific flashable download (JB only) for this mod as well.
This is probably the biggest reason I have stayed on Synergy all this time.

adsbar said:
SynergyRom in the Verizon SIII android development section has an option (selectable during setup in Aroma) to bypass Exchange Security. In addition, the OP has a link to a specific flashable download (JB only) for this mod as well.
This is probably the biggest reason I have stayed on Synergy all this time.
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Tried the zip and still making me use Pin....Dang it. Unless I'm missing something, but i cleared data and everything and reset it up a bunch of diff ways. Def still need pin. Double Dang

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Android custom ROM for security + minimal of Google?

Hi everyone,
can you recommend me some custom Android ROMs with focus on better security? Or isolate of dependence on Google?
Both of them together will be the best.
My phone is Samsung Galaxy S2.
Many thanks

dj.houba said:
Hi everyone,
can you recommend me some custom Android ROMs with focus on better security? Or isolate of dependence on Google?
Both of them together will be the best.
My phone is Samsung Galaxy S2.
Many thanks
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Cyanogen or GingerBread are some good ROMS for good security, as I know.

D-J Mutant said:
Cyanogen or GingerBread are some good ROMS for good security, as I know.
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Thanks, yes, I know about Cyanogen.
Oh you mean GingerBread from Google? This is exactly what I don't want. I want to separate from Google, coz we all know about NSA case. So I thought, there will be some developers, who will try to build some custom ROM and try to eliminate "Big brother" and focus mainly on security.

Omnirom is supposed to be security and privacy consious.
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Well I'd suggest the cyanogenmod, but without the google apps. They're optional.

In the nexus 4 section there is an aokp that is patched so built in Google analytics are gone. There is a patch that can be applied to other ROMs.

Custom roms, including Cyanogenmod, have a history of BAD security. Many rom developers end up introducing new vulnerabilities. In the past, some hardened Android builds existed, but I know of no current hardened roms.
I personally would stay away from custom roms, and stick to as close to AOSP as possible, signed with your own private keys. (and no Omnirom, AOKP, Cyanogenmod are NOT AOSP in any way shape or form.)

jcase said:
Custom roms, including Cyanogenmod, have a history of BAD security. Many rom developers end up introducing new vulnerabilities. In the past, some hardened Android builds existed, but I know of no current hardened roms.
I personally would stay away from custom roms, and stick to as close to AOSP as possible, signed with your own private keys. (and no Omnirom, AOKP, Cyanogenmod are NOT AOSP in any way shape or form.)
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Is that so , see from what u saying ,,, the ASOP is better then the other build rite
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jcase said:
Custom roms, including Cyanogenmod, have a history of BAD security. Many rom developers end up introducing new vulnerabilities. In the past, some hardened Android builds existed, but I know of no current hardened roms.
I personally would stay away from custom roms, and stick to as close to AOSP as possible, signed with your own private keys. (and no Omnirom, AOKP, Cyanogenmod are NOT AOSP in any way shape or form.)
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How do you get your own private key and what does that do? Sorry, I have never heard of this, so I'm sure others are probably also wondering.
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Thanks
Thanks, I was trying different ROMs, finally I chose PAC-MAN ROM without Google apps

Hello !
does it mean that any modded stock rom with GApps will be insecure ?
Thx

just youtube some galaxy s2 roms you'll find reviews on some good roms

JamieFL said:
How do you get your own private key and what does that do? Sorry, I have never heard of this, so I'm sure others are probably also wondering.
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http://www.kandroid.org/online-pdk/guide/release_keys.html
something like this
I think you can skip "make dist" part, just do a regular build as you would normally (CyanogenMod ==> brunch your_device
you can fine the need file under "out/target/product/hammerhead/obj/PACKAGING/target_files_intermediates/cm_hammerhead-target_files-")
for Cyanogenmod Nexus 5 for ex (hammerhead )
source build/envsetup.sh
brunch hammerhead
and you'll fine the target_files zip under
out/target/product/hammerhead/obj/PACKAGING/target_files_intermediates/
that the one you need to feed to build/tools/releasetools/sign_target_files_apks

There are some really exciting Android security projects out there... For instance, one awesome function a-la-Truecrypt involves full disk encryption with plausible deniability. You are able to give out a first-layer passphrase if you are coerced - yet a truly private volume remains secure and disguised within the apparent unused portion of the storage disk.
Yet it's unlikely that any of this is relevant to you, otherwise you wouldn't be asking this sort of thing. When it comes to security leaks, try to barricade off the paths of least resistance from the ground up. For instance, even all of that wouldn't do much good if you had forensic evidence of your phone config on your computer, a lockscreen that could be bypassed, a phone seized whilst still turned with encryptions keys remaining in RAM, etc. Also keep in mind all of the data you are sending out in the clear via your cloud storage, SMS/IM, WiFi, etc.
So in the end, just pick a ROM that runs smoothly and you enjoy. Whatever you end up deciding, make absolutely certain to:
- encrypt with strong passphrase (then use cryptfs app to create a shorter lock screen key)
- disable USB debugging
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JamieFL said:
How do you get your own private key and what does that do? Sorry, I have never heard of this, so I'm sure others are probably also wondering.
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This probably isn't exactly spot on, but here's a rough sysnopsis... When a ROM is built from source, the creator "signs" their creation (i.e. the ROM and the apps within). This way you can be sure that you're indeed getting an official ROM built by AOKP (or whomever) and not by some malicious 3rd party. Likewise, the Android OS uses signatures to ID which files are legitimate and given permission to run (i.e. official updates). However, there have been incidents with custom ROMs when this functionality has been exploited. This could allow an otherwise innocuous seeming app to deploy hidden malware and cloak itself as a legitimate app, gaining full rights to the phone.
A self-built ROM with your own private key is presumably safer against such an attack. I don't think most people would need to be concerned about this, but still something to keep in mind. Unfortunately jcase is spot on about custom ROMs almost always creating or exposing more vulnerabilities than stock. For instance, features like ADB or USB-OTG are often enabled by default. If that wasn't bad enough, in the event that your phone is ever lost/stolen/seized, having a custom recovery installed is pretty much handing over your identity with a bow wrapped on top. It makes it easy for anyone to bypass PIN/password/face/gesture-lock or dump off the entire disk image. Not to mention analysis can reveal your account passwords, WiFi keys, SMS, phone records, photos. Most of these vulnerabilities can be safeguarded against with careful consideration, but you certainly won't get there by default.

dj.houba said:
Thanks, yes, I know about Cyanogen.
Oh you mean GingerBread from Google? This is exactly what I don't want. I want to separate from Google, coz we all know about NSA case. So I thought, there will be some developers, who will try to build some custom ROM and try to eliminate "Big brother" and focus mainly on security.
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The only way to eliminate the ability of a nation-state interfering in your data would be to not generate any. If they're watching you, then stopping them from watching you isn't going to be possible. So it's better to ensure that when they watch you appear innocent.
Granted, I'm not saying you shouldn't take any precautions. But to truly get away from their snooping you're probably better of without a phone.
fadedout said:
There are some really exciting Android security projects out there... For instance, one awesome function a-la-Truecrypt involves full disk encryption with plausible deniability. You are able to give out a first-layer passphrase if you are coerced - yet a truly private volume remains secure and disguised within the apparent unused portion of the storage disk.
Yet it's unlikely that any of this is relevant to you, otherwise you wouldn't be asking this sort of thing. When it comes to security leaks, try to barricade off the paths of least resistance from the ground up. For instance, even all of that wouldn't do much good if you had forensic evidence of your phone config on your computer, a lockscreen that could be bypassed, a phone seized whilst still turned with encryptions keys remaining in RAM, etc. Also keep in mind all of the data you are sending out in the clear via your cloud storage, SMS/IM, WiFi, etc.
So in the end, just pick a ROM that runs smoothly and you enjoy. Whatever you end up deciding, make absolutely certain to:
- encrypt with strong passphrase (then use cryptfs app to create a shorter lock screen key)
- disable USB debugging
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:good: Excellent advice.

I still wonder if AOSP or any of the bigger custom ROMs without Gapps is truly Google free. I have been browsing the forums for a while on that question but cant really find a good answer. Google free meaning: it doesn't communicate in any way on any moment with Google.
Anyone who can verify that? Has there ever been a XDA'er who researched this? For some it seems an assumption and some think since Android is developed by Google they surely try to analyze even AOSP roms or derivatives.

Liberr said:
I still wonder if AOSP or any of the bigger custom ROMs without Gapps is truly Google free. I have been browsing the forums for a while on that question but cant really find a good answer. Google free meaning: it doesn't communicate in any way on any moment with Google.
Anyone who can verify that? Has there ever been a XDA'er who researched this? For some it seems an assumption and some think since Android is developed by Google they surely try to analyze even AOSP roms or derivatives.
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It only sends version statistics to Google, and there's a build.prop setting that allegedly disables it (ro.config.nocheckin=1) -- haven't tried it because I'd rather show my pride in Gingerbread

smartymcfly said:
There is a patch that can be applied to other ROMs.
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What and where is this patch?

I would think you could block all of Google's ip address's in your host file on any rom also.
You could edit the host file before flashing it.

[MOD][GUIDE]How To Enable The Hidden Alternate SystemUI In Note5

Not sure how many of you are aware, but there is a completely different user interface built into the Note5 that's hidden. I thought maybe some of you might like to check it out just for fun. It allows you to place widgets and apps on the lockscreen and has a bunch of cool lockscreen effects. Also, the "notifications panel" and the "recents" page are totally different, as well as many other interesting features. I added some screenshots for you guys to check out in this post.
Here are the steps to activating it:
1) First, anytime you're playing around with the SystemUI, even if it's a built in feature, it's a good idea to do a full system backup in TWRP. Not necessary, but recommended.
2) Next, you will need to have the Galaxy Apps store installed on your device. If you happened to have deleted it like I did, then I've attached the APK to this post for anyone that needs to reinstall it.
3) Open the Galaxy Apps store and update it if/when it prompts you.
4) Once the store has loaded, search for the words "Good Lock". Click on the app and click "Update", then "Install" and reboot the device when it prompts you.
(This is the hidden SystemUI that you already have on your device, but it needs the current update to work.)
5) Once rebooted into the new SystemUI, it will begin walking you through all of your new customization options. You can change any of these anytime you want by opening the "Good Lock" app in your applications list.
NOTE: If you decide that you want to deactivate the alternate SystemUI at any point, then you can just open up the "Good Lock" app and click on "Uninstall" too. You can also uninstall the Galaxy Apps store at any time and features like the new "Recents" page, if you don't like it, can be toggled off in the app as well.
Anyhow, I hope you guys have some fun with this. I'm trying it out for awhile just for kicks. Be sure to let everyone know what you thought of the new SystemUI in the comments too!

Just installed this running N5 Express ROM with no issues yet. Really like being able to have Tasker widget shortcuts on the lockscreen.

catchjeff said:
Just installed this running N5 Express ROM with no issues yet. Really like being able to have Tasker widget shortcuts on the lockscreen.
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That's a really good idea. Been trying to think of a more useful widget to use on the lock screen. So far I've only added a fancy clock/weather widget. [emoji14] Maybe I'll give it a try.

Cool cant wait to try it out!
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For this you dont need a root or twrp its official from samsung

mirketos said:
For this you dont need a root or twrp its official from samsung
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TWRP is mentioned for backing up your current configuration of TouchWiz(and your device in general) if you can before using Good Lock in case anything goes wrong. Obviously backing up your device is never required, but definitely always recommended when altering the system in any way, regardless of where it comes from. It's important to understand that Good Lock isn't just some Samsung app in the app store or just another launcher that changes the home screen, apps page, etc. It tweaks the system ui itself, including the look and function of the notifications panel, lock screen capabilities and more. It's true that you can just revert back to TW whenever you want pretty easily from within Good Lock, but the process isn't perfect. In fact, I myself applied it and reverted back only 2 times and the second time something went terribly wrong during the reversion and the system halted and it would no longer boot after that, so I had to restore a previous backup which I was glad to have had. All the data that I hadn't recently backed up though was of course lost, so yes...a TWRP backup is recommended when using Good Lock.
Also worth mentioning is the fact that if you're not running a compatible version of the stock firmware or at least a compatible TouchWiz rom, it will try to prevent you from installing it by not showing it in an app store search or by blocking access to the app's page(if you're following a link) in the Galaxy Apps store. For instance, it was there when I was on stock Marshmallow, but does not allow me to access it on stock Nougat. Instead I get error messages saying the app is not supported on my device when trying to load the Good Lock page.
Here is the link btw in case anyone can't find Good Lock in a search and wants to check if it can be used on their device. If it shows it, then it's compatible, if it doesn't then it's likely not. Just open the link in a mobile browser and click "OK" if prompted.
https://apps.samsung.com/jupiter/appquery/appDetail.as?appId=com.android.systemui

bogarty said:
TWRP is mentioned for backing up your current configuration of TouchWiz(and your device in general) if you can before using Good Lock in case anything goes wrong. Obviously backing up your device is never required, but definitely always recommended when altering the system in any way, regardless of where it comes from. It's important to understand that Good Lock isn't just some Samsung app in the app store or just another launcher that changes the home screen, apps page, etc. It tweaks the system ui itself, including the look and function of the notifications panel, lock screen capabilities and more. It's true that you can just revert back to TW whenever you want pretty easily from within Good Lock, but the process isn't perfect. In fact, I myself applied it and reverted back only 2 times and the second time something went terribly wrong during the reversion and the system halted and it would no longer boot after that, so I had to restore a previous backup which I was glad to have had. All the data that I hadn't recently backed up though was of course lost, so yes...a TWRP backup is recommended when using Good Lock.
Also worth mentioning is the fact that if you're not running a compatible version of the stock firmware or at least a compatible TouchWiz rom, it will try to prevent you from installing it by not showing it in an app store search or by blocking access to the app's page(if you're following a link) in the Galaxy Apps store. For instance, it was there when I was on stock Marshmallow, but does not allow me to access it on stock Nougat. Instead I get error messages saying the app is not supported on my device when trying to load the Good Lock page.
Here is the link btw in case anyone can't find Good Lock in a search and wants to check if it can be used on their device. If it shows it, then it's compatible, if it doesn't then it's likely not. Just open the link in a mobile browser and click "OK" if prompted.
https://apps.samsung.com/jupiter/appquery/appDetail.as?appId=com.android.systemui
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Ok! Haha!! You dont need a make backup or something IT'S OFFICIAL YOU FOOL MAN

mirketos said:
Ok! Haha!! You dont need a make backup or something IT'S OFFICIAL YOU FOOL MAN
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WTF dude? Seriously. Stop being an ass and actually read what I wrote. It's the least you can do after I typed all that out. You're not helping anyone by TROLLING this thread and repeatedly mentioning something so extremely redundant. If you don't want to backup then don't backup. I clearly said that it was obviously not required to do a backup and that I was only recommending to do it because I lost data and couldn't boot after selecting the option to revert back one time. Stop wasting people's time with your pointless comments. NOWHERE does it say in my post that making a backup is Required, so get over yourself. Either stop being a destructive ass or go and troll someone else! Your negative comments are not welcome here.