I just got the Atrix 2 and was wondering if there is a root protocol for the 2.3.5 that does not require flashing the 2.3.4 SBF?
thanks in advance!
One all the rooting methods you see here are at the moment strictly for the original so far as I am aware, and also no one has done Anything with the A2 that I have noticed so until than hold out.
Surprisingly slow rate of adaption. This is my first Motorola device. Very nice feel and solid quality. Don't know about older blur phones but this skin isn't bad.
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Return you Atrix 2 and either get the SGS II or the Atrix 1. ooooor just wait for better phones. The Atrix 2 was a joke.
Would if I could but don't have the money up front for the Cost of the Latest Greatest Most Expensive Phone considering I caught the Atrix 2 for 49.99 which is my budget when I got it. So unless you can tell me somewhere that the SGSII is selling for 49.99 than I am stuck with it.
I bricked my SGS and had to buy the atrix 2 last week, I want root so I can TI restore some of my stuff, but other then that, I just want reliable and stable
plus with ICS on the way the Atrix2 should be even better soon
Here is hoping we get root soon
I just picked one up today, I'm very surprised there isn't a forum for this phone. I've owned an sgs2, have an og atrix running cm7 and its nice but the atrix 2 screen is much better. The sgs2 was ok but touchwiz is very boring, I know its easy to change but the phone itself while fast was boring. I guess I owned a captivate for too long.
I wish att had a better selection of htc devices.
Has anyone tried super one click root for the a2? I may give it a try and see what happens. If I try I'll report back with my results. And for the guy that says the a2 is a joke,
have you tried one yet or are you basing your judgment from stats that you have read? I'm using one right now and honestly I am enjoying it more than the sgs2 to be honest with you. I almost grabbed the att branded sgs2 but figured it would be the same as the international version was.
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I just picked one up today, I'm very surprised there isn't a forum for this phone. I've owned an sgs2, have an og atrix running cm7 and its nice but the atrix 2 screen is much better. The sgs2 was ok but touchwiz is very boring, I know its easy to change but the phone itself while fast was boring. I guess I owned a captivate for too long.
I wish att had a better selection of htc devices.
Has anyone tried super one click root for the a2? I may give it a try and see what happens. If I try I'll report back with my results. And for the guy that says the a2 is a joke, have you tried one yet our are you basing your judgment from stats that you have read? I'm using one right now and honestly I am enjoying it more than the sgs2 to be honest with you. I almost grabbed the att branded sgs2 but figured it would be the same as the international version was.
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Well let us know if that works. I am loving this device as well just hope to see root and custom kernel soon and our own forum would be nice too but that will all come in due time I spose.
malickie said:
Well let us know if that works. I am loving this device as well just hope to see root and custom kernel soon and our own forum would be nice too but that will all come in due time I spose.
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Just tried super one click without success, so i guess the waiting game begins.
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Just tried super one click without success, so i guess the waiting game begins.
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Well thanks for trying anyway. Yea let the waiting game begin or rather continue lol.
Chubby_Skunk said:
Return you Atrix 2 and either get the SGS II or the Atrix 1. ooooor just wait for better phones. The Atrix 2 was a joke.
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SGS II with 4.5" and 480 x 800 resolution is a joke.
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SGS II with 4.5" and 480 x 800 resolution is a joke.
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The SGSII is actually the same screen size as the A2 on at&t. I believe the one that will have the 4.5" is the T-Mobile version. But still yes I agree 480 x 800 sucks and I like the A2 screen much better from what I saw in the Store.
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SGS II with 4.5" and 480 x 800 resolution is a joke.
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I used the Sprint version at the store and everything looks comicly HUGE. That resolution is just way too low for such a big screen.
Crossing my fingers for some atrix 2 love!
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Return you Atrix 2 and either get the SGS II or the Atrix 1. ooooor just wait for better phones. The Atrix 2 was a joke.
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What makes the A2 so bad? I don't get it I just picked one up last night and I think it's a pretty nice phone actually, completely blown away that I got it for just $50. No the screen is no Super AMOLED, it's no Retina display, but it's plenty bright and colorful and the increased pixel density makes it pretty decent. Otherwise, it's a dual core phone with a cpu that's perfectly capable, utilizing a gpu that other so-called "high end" phones also use, has 1gb of ram, 4gb of internal storage, 2gb MicroSD card (will accept up to 32gb) and is running the latest version of GB, v2.3.5.
I've been playing with my phone non-stop since I got it last night and it's been lovely. Nice and smooth, my download speeds have increased dramatically over my SE Xperia X10, it installs apps significantly faster, I think it's horribly underpriced at $49.99 and I doubt there's any devices out there at this price point that can compete. The OG Atrix has that horrible Pentile Matrix display and MotoBlur, no thanks. And the SGSII, at 4 times the price of the Atrix 2, it better be a superior device! So what phones out there at $50 are head and shoulders better than the Atrix 2?
I had to cough up 30 bucks for a 16 gb micro sd and another 50 for a good case. So what? 49.99 really is a steal when u compare it to the torch 9810, the infuse 4g, and the Xperia play. I almost pulled the trigger on the infuse but it will be ages before it gtd an update.
100% happy I bought this and the screen is very sharp
I returned the SGSII in favor of the new Atrix because the internal radios are Way better! Not quite as smooth and a little slower on the Web side, but worth it for me. Besides, the screen on the Atrix 2 is way better in the sunlight = seriously the best on the market in the sun! I've looked at them •All• since I just switched over from the iPhone 4S. (yep)
For me the screen and better radios were major selling points.
Your reasons may be different
Rick
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Crossing my fingers for some atrix 2 love!
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Same here! I love the large screen and high resolution. I would love it even more if I could get root.
I played around with the A2 and the SGII for over an hr yesterday at the store and the display is better on the A2 by far. ATT price matched best buy and i walked out with the A2 for 49.99 and after playing with it all night i couldnt be more happier. This phone has a 4.3" screen but as far as the actual phone size is the smallest ATT has to offer with the same screen size and feels great in the hand. All the haters need to use this phone some before they go on with there rants about not living up to the OG because I remember not long ago when the OG was SLOW and buggy running froyo, not until it recieved gingerbread did the OG true potential start showing!! I have the OG and as soon as the A2 gets some development love and hopefully CM9 with some ICS, I will prolly retire the OG! This phone for the price is better then anything I have played with so far and until the new Nexus comes out would be hard for me to give up.
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With the SGS II not coming to Canada anytime soon, Im looking for a different android phone to play around with and probably end up keeping in the long run. I was dead set on getting an Atrix purely for the power of the phone and the lapdock accessory, after seeing most of the reviews saying that I was better off getting an actual laptop for the same price and could do far more itself, Im kinda leaning off the Atrix trail atm. So I was thinking about either the Nexus S or the HTC Incredible S. Or should I still go ahead with the Atrix (Even though that pretty little bootloader still aint unlocked)?
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With the SGS II not coming to Canada anytime soon, Im looking for a different android phone to play around with and probably end up keeping in the long run. I was dead set on getting an Atrix purely for the power of the phone and the lapdock accessory, after seeing most of the reviews saying that I was better off getting an actual laptop for the same price and could do far more itself, Im kinda leaning off the Atrix trail atm. So I was thinking about either the Nexus S or the HTC Incredible S. Or should I still go ahead with the Atrix (Even though that pretty little bootloader still aint unlocked)?
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go for nexus s.u will love it
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With the SGS II not coming to Canada anytime soon, Im looking for a different android phone to play around with and probably end up keeping in the long run. I was dead set on getting an Atrix purely for the power of the phone and the lapdock accessory, after seeing most of the reviews saying that I was better off getting an actual laptop for the same price and could do far more itself, Im kinda leaning off the Atrix trail atm. So I was thinking about either the Nexus S or the HTC Incredible S. Or should I still go ahead with the Atrix (Even though that pretty little bootloader still aint unlocked)?
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Skip the Atrix as the software (and Motoblur) is terrible - the hardware is amazing, but it feels crippled by the crappy software, The HTC Incredible S is a nice phone, IMO it doesn't excel in any one category, but overall is a pretty good device. Note that if you are into modding, the Incredible S has a locked bootloader and root still has not been achieved on it for the Bell version.
The Nexus S is pretty good, but is missing a couple of things I like (LED notification light and an SD card slot), but it is a stock Google phone and should be great for modding. I'm currently on a SE Arc - overall, I think I prefer it to the Incredible S and the Nexus S.
BTW, some of the UK sellers are now selling the Galaxy S II if you want to pick one up.
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Skip the Atrix as the software (and Motoblur) is terrible - the hardware is amazing, but it feels crippled by the crappy software, The HTC Incredible S is a nice phone, IMO it doesn't excel in any one category, but overall is a pretty good device. Note that if you are into modding, the Incredible S has a locked bootloader and root still has not been achieved on it for the Bell version.
The Nexus S is pretty good, but is missing a couple of things I like (LED notification light and an SD card slot), but it is a stock Google phone and should be great for modding. I'm currently on a SE Arc - overall, I think I prefer it to the Incredible S and the Nexus S.
BTW, some of the UK sellers are now selling the Galaxy S II if you want to pick one up.
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So they would ship it across seas? :O
Also the HTC is the one I'm leading more towards ATM because when it comes to the camera on a phone, its some what a deal breaker for me.
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So they would ship it across seas? :O
Also the HTC is the one I'm leading more towards ATM because when it comes to the camera on a phone, its some what a deal breaker for me.
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Yes, they would. Check out clove.co.uk and expansys for more information.
If the Sensation has the same camera (8 MP) as the Incredible S, then I would suggest that you look at alternate camera's. While it's great to have a 8MP camera, the Incredible S camera is not as good as some of the other 8MP camera's.
Personally, I would lean towards the Galaxy S II!
i'd go with the nexus s
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Yes, they would. Check out clove.co.uk and expansys for more information.
If the Sensation has the same camera (8 MP) as the Incredible S, then I would suggest that you look at alternate camera's. While it's great to have a 8MP camera, the Incredible S camera is not as good as some of the other 8MP camera's.
Personally, I would lean towards the Galaxy S II!
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If anything ill wait till the prices go down for the sgs II lol. $900 seems a tad pricey at the moment. I might go with the attic cause of the whole dual core.
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If anything ill wait till the prices go down for the sgs II lol. $900 seems a tad pricey at the moment. I might go with the attic cause of the whole dual core.
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I think the SGS II costs about $680 (GBP440), not $900.
Anyway, I found the software on the Atrix bad enough to sell it a couple of months into ownership. There are a few issues on the Rogers/Fido network with the Atrix - e.g. capped upload speeds (max 384kb upload), issues with displaying Caller ID with name and issues with wifi hot spots. The hardware is amazing, but I wish I could install HTC Sense on it (never going to happen due to a locked bootloader).
It's your call in the end, but maybe it's better to wait for the prices to come down.
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I think the SGS II costs about $680 (GBP440), not $900.
Anyway, I found the software on the Atrix bad enough to sell it a couple of months into ownership. There are a few issues on the Rogers/Fido network with the Atrix - e.g. capped upload speeds (max 384kb upload), issues with displaying Caller ID with name and issues with wifi hot spots. The hardware is amazing, but I wish I could install HTC Sense on it (never going to happen due to a locked bootloader).
It's your call in the end, but maybe it's better to wait for the prices to come down.
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Yea was doing a bit more research on the Atrix and found out that issue as well. When you say $680, that canadian or US? The cappy i have right now, got someone to buy it for $500. So I guess forking out $200 more shouldnt hurt.
I will go for Incredible S. Why? Just preference. What I normally do is if you really can't decide, head to the shop and try the feel of the phone.
If you are leaning towards hardware and stuff, then of course would need more advise on those who had hands on experience with it.
Just my 2 cents.
Kinda thinking about grabbing a SGS 2. Just trying to find out if there's gonna be an issue ordering it to Canada and through who.
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Kinda thinking about grabbing a SGS 2. Just trying to find out if there's gonna be an issue ordering it to Canada and through who.
Roaming the forums on the XDA app.
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I ordered the SGS2 through Clove, but you can also choose Handtec or Expansys.
I would pick the Nexus. That thing is faster stock than you're ever going to need it. SGS2 seems like a good pick but so did the first Galaxy S phones before they came out.
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I would pick the Nexus. That thing is faster stock than you're ever going to need it. SGS2 seems like a good pick but so did the first Galaxy S phones before they came out.
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SGS I with ROMS is much faster than Nexus S stock based on quadrant (not sure if true in actuality).
What do you think about HTC Aria...
nexus s for sure.
what about Thunderbolt
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I ordered the SGS2 through Clove, but you can also choose Handtec or Expansys.
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Ill check whichever has the better deal. Gonna grab a case, screen protector and the MHL cable along with the phone.
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I would pick the Nexus. That thing is faster stock than you're ever going to need it. SGS2 seems like a good pick but so did the first Galaxy S phones before they came out.
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The Nexus S I moved on from. Camera quality wasn't all to enjoyable.
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SGS I with ROMS is much faster than Nexus S stock based on quadrant (not sure if true in actuality).
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To true. This Cappy is hitting the 2500's in AnTuTu.
asmeena said:
What do you think about HTC Aria...
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Never heard of it =X
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what about Thunderbolt
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I don't think it's gonna work on Rogers bands.
So, today i deiced i wanted a Infuse after having my atrix for less than 3 weeks. is it a good move?
how good is the performance on this phone?
Great move. I did and I'm lovin it. Everything about this phone is better. Dual core? Pshh my infuse is faster than my atrix ever was. I've had every phone and I love this thing
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I'm picking mine up tomorrow, but I'll be keeping my Atrix as my main phone. The reps at the AT&T store let me play with the model device, and the screen looks huge!
Also, Atrix is getting a lot of hate, ATM, but our good friend Kholk is whipping up a nice bootloader bypass where we can be running CM7 and the gingerbready goodness you want.
I did the same and I do not miss one thing about the Atrix.
Ha i guess i did a good move then. this is my second atrix that u bought at best buy for 75 bucks with discounts from here and there.
called att today and told them i was on my second atrix with the same issues. they were going to send me a reburf i was liek not even a month old and getting a refurb. hell naw.
went to the att store told them i was told by the 611 people to go to the store and get it exchanged. they said they couldn't do it and that i was misinformed. i stuck to my story they got on the phone with a manager from att i talked to him and told him i sick and tired and i was going to cancel my contract right there and then. he said not to. that they would ship me the infuse 4g with 2 day shipping. he didn't mention anything about returning the atrix to best buy. so i guess i keep it?
You made the right move. You won't regret it. This sucker is fast and I can type better than any other phone I've had since my blackberry 9000. The few extra mm of screen make a huge difference
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i was having a hard time adjusting to the keyboard on the atrix because i came from a HD2 running android so the screen was smaller. cant wait to get mine.
You'll love it. Its perfect size
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im getting more anxious by the minute. played with it at the AT&T store. i loved how thin it is. i look at my atrix now and thing "you fat *****" lol. i still got some love for the atrix though. hopefully i get to keep it to
I just made the switch from the Atrix to the Infuse as well. Only been a couple hours and I'm already glad I switched.
Atrix was a huge letdown IMHO the lapdock was extremely overpriced for one. The plans were outrageous for two. And there was obsoultely no use for dual core. Just overkill. Oh plus the locked bootloader thing killed it too. Can't forget that
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yeah. i got bored of it really quick. THD games are nice tho. main reason why i had gotten the atrix was the lapdock good think i didnt buy it.
I'm thinking about switching to the Infuse over from the iphone. How is the speaker volume like when the phone rings? That's one of the things i love about the iPhone, the ringtones are loud.
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I'm thinking about switching to the Infuse over from the iphone. How is the speaker volume like when the phone rings? That's one of the things i love about the iPhone, the ringtones are loud.
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Its loud if you pick a loud ringtone.
I had a Atrix 4G. Possibly the worst phone I have ever owned, it was just straight trash. I knew better than to get a crappy Motorola device. I had a Captivate for a while and loved it but needed a FFC and flash for the rear cam. I am back on my iPhone 4 but I found someone that will buy my iPhone 4 for $440 and I'll buy the Infuse off another guy for $400. I'm so tempted to do this.
What do you guys think I should do?
I am actually thinking about switching from the atrix too. I can't keep waiting for the bootloader to get unlocked any longer. Not really too happy with anything else about the atrix and pretty much just got it for the dual core. Do you guys think the 1.2ghz will get outdated soon with every phone coming out with dual cores? Worth buying the infuse or should I wait till the SG2 or "attain" or whatever the **** att calls it.
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I am actually thinking about switching from the atrix too. I can't keep waiting for the bootloader to get unlocked any longer. Not really too happy with anything else about the atrix and pretty much just got it for the dual core. Do you guys think the 1.2ghz will get outdated soon with every phone coming out with dual cores? Worth buying the infuse or should I wait till the SG2 or "attain" or whatever the **** att calls it.
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Dual-core Galaxsy S II and HTC Sensation variants will probably make it to AT&T by the end of summer. Depends on how impatient you are.
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Dual-core Galaxsy S II and HTC Sensation variants will probably make it to AT&T by the end of summer. Depends on how impatient you are.
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Most of the new phones still have single core CPUs. I'm not worried about the infuse being too slow to run the latest Android version a year or two from now. Look at the Nexus One, it still runs very fast and smoothly on a custom rom. You have to remember that Google designs Android to run on the most phones possible. Extra processing power is really only needed for gaming. And personally I'll take a tablet for gaming, and that can have the higher end hardware.
ITT: People who didn't know how to tweak the Atrix.
I moved from the Atrix and I think its a good move. I understood that the atrix had the power but honestly in every day use, I couldnt tell the difference. I like how the Infuse had side loading from the beginning and TouchWiz > MotoBlur.
Way I see it is I gained a bigger screen that even though doesnt have the res the atrix did, still looks more appealing.
ALSO, I'm actually getting HSPA+ speeds with this phone unlike I was with the Atrix!
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I'm getting a straight trade +100~
Would out be worth it? Sounds nice......but.....its locked down and still only on froyo :/
Swyped from my gingerfied captivate
What its a straight trade +100~?
If you are getting atrix plus $100 then there is your answer, but if you are throwing in $100 with your captivate then no its not worth it.
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What its a straight trade +100~?
If you are getting atrix plus $100 then there is your answer, but if you are throwing in $100 with your captivate then no its not worth it.
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throwing in 100 with my captivate
can I ask why is it not worth it to you?
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throwing in 100 with my captivate
can I ask why is it not worth it to you?
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I hava an Atrix and a Captivate. I love both phones. He is right though, its not worth it. I would say that you should wait, hold off a few months and wait for the SGS II. AT&T has a variant coming sometime this year, and with the rollout of their LTE network starting this summer, you have to imagine that the SGS II would be a great canidate to be one of their 1st LTE enabled phones (that's personal opinion, not based on any verified info). Aside from that, the performance differences between the two phones is noticable, but not DRASTIC. Having actual, working GPS is nice, and some of the other features are cool, but honestly I would say wait.
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I hava an Atrix and a Captivate. I love both phones. He is right though, its not worth it. I would say that you should wait, hold off a few months and wait for the SGS II. AT&T has a variant coming sometime this year, and with the rollout of their LTE network starting this summer, you have to imagine that the SGS II would be a great canidate to be one of their 1st LTE enabled phones (that's personal opinion, not based on any verified info). Aside from that, the performance differences between the two phones is noticable, but not DRASTIC. Having actual, working GPS is nice, and some of the other features are cool, but honestly I would say wait.
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well TBH, I don't really mind about the SoC other than the fact that its a dual and it would be significantly better than the single core that my captivate has.
and I don't live in the states, so I"m not really affected about LTE and such since we don't have LTE or anything where I live.
what I am worried about is the locked bootloader and such cause I can safetly run gingerbread on my captivate, but I won't be able to be on gingerbread once I'm on the atrix and my ROM choices and tweakign and such will be very limited until we can get the bootloader unlocked since motorola is such an ass to lock it.
I'm still debating this....with half of me saying "no" and half of me saying "yes"
does your atrix "feel faster or smoother" compared to the captivate?
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well TBH, I don't really mind about the SoC other than the fact that its a dual and it would be significantly better than the single core that my captivate has.
and I don't live in the states, so I"m not really affected about LTE and such since we don't have LTE or anything where I live.
what I am worried about is the locked bootloader and such cause I can safetly run gingerbread on my captivate, but I won't be able to be on gingerbread once I'm on the atrix and my ROM choices and tweakign and such will be very limited until we can get the bootloader unlocked since motorola is such an ass to lock it.
I'm still debating this....with half of me saying "no" and half of me saying "yes"
does your atrix "feel faster or smoother" compared to the captivate?
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Ahh, then yea all the AT&T stuff is kinda irrelevant, lol. The rom choices out there are minimal due to the bootloader encryption, obviously, but there is a HELL of a lot of working going on to fix that. Don't want to speak too soon but we may be close. Khoulk, tenfar, TBH, and a bunch of others are working on it. The Atrix is faster and smoother, yes, but we still don't even have an ETA for Gingerbread.
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Ahh, then yea all the AT&T stuff is kinda irrelevant, lol. The rom choices out there are minimal due to the bootloader encryption, obviously, but there is a HELL of a lot of working going on to fix that. Don't want to speak too soon but we may be close. Khoulk, tenfar, TBH, and a bunch of others are working on it. The Atrix is faster and smoother, yes, but we still don't even have an ETA for Gingerbread.
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so do you"feel" that my captivate+100 would be a decent deal for a nice more "up to date" phone?
cheers
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so do you"feel" that my captivate+100 would be a decent deal for a nice more "up to date" phone?
cheers
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I have an atrix and since i have bought it i love my cappy more. The only thing better in atrix is GPS from end user perspective. Somebody was right when he mentioned that maybe its a better idea to wait for galaxy S II
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I have an atrix and since i have bought it i love my cappy more. The only thing better in atrix is GPS from end user perspective. Somebody was right when he mentioned that maybe its a better idea to wait for galaxy S II
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If you don't mind....can I ask you why do you like your captivate more?
Thanks
Swyped from my gingerfied captivate
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If you don't mind....can I ask you why do you like your captivate more?
Thanks
Swyped from my gingerfied captivate
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I would check online to see what the going rate for a used captivate is before offering it up + 100 for the Atrix. Compare that to the price for an off-contract atrix and you'll have your answer as to whether or not its a "fair" trade, value wise. Comparing the two phones to each other depends on how much you value aftermarket development. I'm a hardcore themer and that's why I kept my cappy. I haven't released anything for the Atrix yet, and I've had it almost since launch. I was able to get the Atrix through work at no cost, so it was win-win for me. Hardware wise, it is superior (except for the screen. Super Am. beats out the qhd 960x540 IMO). Development wise, there's no contest. Cappy is on Gingerbread. End of discussion. Its a trade-off either way. That's why I said wait for the SGS II to become available whereever you're at: dev friendly + hardware that is equal to or bettan than the atrix is almost every way. They're both great phones, IMO... but the SGS II is gonna be even better. And some phone that no one knows about that will be announced 2 months from now will be even better than the SGS II, lol.
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I would check online to see what the going rate for a used captivate is before offering it up + 100 for the Atrix. Compare that to the price for an off-contract atrix and you'll have your answer as to whether or not its a "fair" trade, value wise. Comparing the two phones to each other depends on how much you value aftermarket development. I'm a hardcore themer and that's why I kept my cappy. I haven't released anything for the Atrix yet, and I've had it almost since launch. I was able to get the Atrix through work at no cost, so it was win-win for me. Hardware wise, it is superior (except for the screen. Super Am. beats out the qhd 960x540 IMO). Development wise, there's no contest. Cappy is on Gingerbread. End of discussion. Its a trade-off either way. That's why I said wait for the SGS II to become available whereever you're at: dev friendly + hardware that is equal to or bettan than the atrix is almost every way. They're both great phones, IMO... but the SGS II is gonna be even better. And some phone that no one knows about that will be announced 2 months from now will be even better than the SGS II, lol.
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going rate for the captivate is around 300~ but then the atrix goes for alot more as well........
Maybe I should just wait longer for more dual core phones.....?
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I definitely wouldn't do it - the Captivate just has so much more to offer with a thriving developer community. The Atrix is supposedly on the verge of being rooted, but it will likely take awhile for things to really boom (and there's no telling when the root will even be successful). I have a few friends with the Atrix, and while it looks to be a decent phone, most complain about battery life and call quality.
I'm no fanboy - I'd jump ship from the Captivate tomorrow if the price was right and hardware/software looked to be legit, but right now the Captivate feels like one of the best possible phones a regular user and geek can have.
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I definitely wouldn't do it - the Captivate just has so much more to offer with a thriving developer community. The Atrix is supposedly on the verge of being rooted, but it will likely take awhile for things to really boom (and there's no telling when the root will even be successful). I have a few friends with the Atrix, and while it looks to be a decent phone, most complain about battery life and call quality.
I'm no fanboy - I'd jump ship from the Captivate tomorrow if the price was right and hardware/software looked to be legit, but right now the Captivate feels like one of the best possible phones a regular user and geek can have.
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The devs have already rooted the phone I think. They are trying to unlock the bootloader.
Don't do it OP. After messing around on an Atrix for awhile, it is a good phone but feels a little finnicky.
A captivate on GB feels a lot smoother than a stock Froyo Atrix IMO.
My opinion you would be paying for a downgrade
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Syntax3600 said:
I definitely wouldn't do it - the Captivate just has so much more to offer with a thriving developer community. The Atrix is supposedly on the verge of being rooted, but it will likely take awhile for things to really boom (and there's no telling when the root will even be successful). I have a few friends with the Atrix, and while it looks to be a decent phone, most complain about battery life and call quality.
I'm no fanboy - I'd jump ship from the Captivate tomorrow if the price was right and hardware/software looked to be legit, but right now the Captivate feels like one of the best possible phones a regular user and geek can have.
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its already rooted....only thign missing is the bootloader's still locked
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The devs have already rooted the phone I think. They are trying to unlock the bootloader.
Don't do it OP. After messing around on an Atrix for awhile, it is a good phone but feels a little finnicky.
A captivate on GB feels a lot smoother than a stock Froyo Atrix IMO.
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"finnicky"? don't get me wrong
I'm running CM7 and have tried other gingerbread ROM's on my captivate
but I kill the battery so fast and it slows to a halt once I try to multi task with browsing and stuff
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My opinion you would be paying for a downgrade
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why would I be paying for a downgrade?
can you describe in more detail please if you don't mind
I'm digging the front facing camera, the working GPS, and the resolution bump.
The atrix doesn't run as hot when playing games (my backplate used to burn me) or when running GPS and the battery last considerably longer.
What do you do on your phone? If you read more news and the like, the screen is great. If you watch more movies on your phone, then you might like the sammy screen better.
The fingerprint reader is nifty as well.
I am weary of samsung's gps on the infuse and the SGS II so I will steer clear..
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I'm digging the front facing camera, the working GPS, and the resolution bump.
The atrix doesn't run as hot when playing games (my backplate used to burn me) or when running GPS and the battery last considerably longer.
What do you do on your phone? If you read more news and the like, the screen is great. If you watch more movies on your phone, then you might like the sammy screen better.
The fingerprint reader is nifty as well.
I am weary of samsung's gps on the infuse and the SGS II so I will steer clear..
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I do a mix of both.....
I think i've decided....atrix it is.....now just to wait for the other party to finalize the deal
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I do a mix of both.....
I think i've decided....atrix it is.....now just to wait for the other party to finalize the deal
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In the end it's your decision. The only way you can really go wrong is if you went to the extremely locked down iphone. Enjoy your new atrix my friend.
don't do it! I have a captivate and I just bought an atrix for $300 and was planning on selling my captivate. But after using the atrix for a couple of days I decided to sell the atrix instead. It is just a bad user experience. Mainly because of the screen and the lack of response. Whenever I would use the slider to slide through contacts, it would lose track of my finger and call someone on accident. Also it is an eyesore to look at when you are scrolling.
Guys...
I have a Thunderbolt and due to the length of time I have been with Verizon and issues I have had, they are giving me a new phone of my choice (not a refurb).
What phone would you all go to (those who root and use custom ROMs) if you had your choice of any phone. Keep in mind I have always liked Sense Rom's but have never had a Motorola phone or a Nexus.
Please let me know!!!!
Thanks so much and have a happy new year!!!
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Guys...
I have a Thunderbolt and due to the length of time I have been with Verizon and issues I have had, they are giving me a new phone of my choice (not a refurb).
What phone would you all go to (those who root and use custom ROMs) if you had your choice of any phone. Keep in mind I have always liked Sense Rom's but have never had a Motorola phone or a Nexus.
Please let me know!!!!
Thanks so much and have a happy new year!!!
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I'm personally not very fond of Sense & Motoblur UI. I would suggest the Galaxy Nexus, especially if they are giving you a new phone (hopefully free for you) and one of the major reasons why I would is first and foremost the HD Super AMOLED screen in general PLUS it having a 1280x720 resolution on that beautiful 4.6" screen (black pixels actually turn off instead of illuminating and looking wasted out and colors are 10X more vibrant), the 1.2GHz dual-core processor, PURE Google phone so no custom UI and you get all the updates before any other phone, Android 4.0 (Mmm), 1850mAh battery (soooo much better than the Thunderbolt) and 1080p video recording.
For me that is the only phone that I would go with, especially as far as what phones are out now on Verizon (which aren't that impressive). That HD Super AMOLED screen is just too sweet to pass up!
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I'm personally not very fond of Sense & Motoblur UI. I would suggest the Galaxy Nexus, especially if they are giving you a new phone (hopefully free for you) and one of the major reasons why I would is first and foremost the HD Super AMOLED screen in general PLUS it having a 1280x720 resolution on that beautiful 4.6" screen (black pixels actually turn off instead of illuminating and looking wasted out and colors are 10X more vibrant), the 1.2GHz dual-core processor, PURE Google phone so no custom UI and you get all the updates before any other phone, Android 4.0 (Mmm), 1850mAh battery (soooo much better than the Thunderbolt) and 1080p video recording.
For me that is the only phone that I would go with, especially as far as what phones are out now on Verizon (which aren't that impressive). That HD Super AMOLED screen is just too sweet to pass up!
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Better than the Rezound or Razr?? Think I should wait for quad core?
Nexus all the way.
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Better than the Rezound or Razr?? Think I should wait for quad core?
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In my opinion I would say so because the Razr has an ugly amount of bezel around the LCD and the resolution is only 960x540 and has the Motoblur overlay and the Rezound is not too bad of a phone, I am just not too much of a fan of the Sense overlay either. I'm not sure but I think quad-core phones won't appear until around Quarter 2 or so of 2012.
Waiting is always not a bad idea, but the Galaxy Nexus is definitely worth it, again IMO. haha hopefully I was some help.
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Nexus all the way.
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This.
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I'm basically the same boat, and but I was told that I could have anything but the Nexus, which is very disappointing. My story is in a different thread further down...
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I'm basically the same boat, and but I was told that I could have anything but the Nexus, which is very disappointing. My story is in a different thread further down...
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What was the reason?
aislepathlight said:
I'm basically the same boat, and but I was told that I could have anything but the Nexus, which is very disappointing. My story is in a different thread further down...
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That's pretty messed up. If that's the case though, The HTC Rezound is a no brainier. It's similar spec'd and the display is gorgeous.
Think I should wait for the spring and keep my tbolt? Or is the Rezound or Nexus really worth it??
I think the nexus is definitely worth it.
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I'm basically the same boat, and but I was told that I could have anything but the Nexus, which is very disappointing. My story is in a different thread further down...
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Find out the most expensive phone they'll give you. Take that value, presuming it's lower than the Nexus, and offer to pay the difference.
howd you get a replacement? They sent me like 5 refurbs. Then finally they sent me a bionic, refurb, and I'm not real thrilled with it. It keeps forcing updates then failing and losing all my data. Kinda tired of dealing with these issues after paying 2400+ a year. At this point I would like to see if the rezound is any better, but they want me to shell out another 250 for the "privilege" of an early upgrade.
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howd you get a replacement? They sent me like 5 refurbs. Then finally they sent me a bionic, refurb, and I'm not real thrilled with it. It keeps forcing updates then failing and losing all my data. Kinda tired of dealing with these issues after paying 2400+ a year. At this point I would like to see if the rezound is any better, but they want me to shell out another 250 for the "privilege" of an early upgrade.
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I have a business account with several phones which allows me certain "perks"
Don't get a Charge
I had 2 thunderbolts and then did the charge when the random reboot started. Waited for the TB and glad I went back no comparison. Slow, everything, gps, data, email etc. Had a TB a month now and loving it.
I liked my bolt before it was rooted, now that it's rooted I love the sh*t out of it....but if you're in the mood for a change, I agree with the recommendation for the Nexus. I got to play with one for a good hour or so last week and really fell in love. I'm not 100% sure if it was the hardware or ICS that really appealed to me, but since you can get both at the same time, why not go for it?
I personally like the RAZR quite a bit too, but all things being equal, Nexus seems like the way to go.
I'm in the wait crowd. I want the specs of the nexus, but its got some important omissions. The GPU isn't up to snuff for a brand new top of the line phone, and its got no expansion slot for a microsd card. And, did I read the battery isn't user changeable?
I was excited by the nexus, but if the SGS3 is quad core, Super amoled HD (RGB, not pentile) and it can take a memo card, its worth the wait. I'm not so excited about the nexus since it came out.
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Hey, sorry about being away, for a while, long story. But the first one that I bought came with bad light leaks. The second one came badly scractched and dented. The next one was the one I had the bulk of the time, but the headphone jack ended up dieing. I was sent a replacement for that which came with a broken ear piece. The final one came with a damaged battery cover, which I just swapped with the previous phone, so no big deal.
The biggest complaint I have had is that they tried to charge me for one of the phones I had sent back, which took at least a half dozen calls and many hours to get fixed. They had sent me text messages saying that they had recieved the phone, but then a series of text messages saying that they were going to charge me for the phone not being returned. It took taking to a manager to check the future bills and a couple forms filled out for them to refund the charge.
More later...
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I'm on my 7th or 8th Thunderbolt. I've been having intermittent POP3 email problems ever since I've had the phone(s). I went to a Verizon store a couple of times recently when I had the issue and noticed that with the exact same settings, the Galaxy and the Rezound worked while the Thunderbolt did not. The Bionic and Razr also did not work.
Anyway, they won't let me have anything except for a Charge or Revolution. I think the Revolution is a lesser phone than the Thunderbolt, and I don't know if my POP3 account would work on the Charge. I would've tried it out, but either the store didn't have it or it wasn't working if they did.
Has anyone come across this same issue before? If so, what amount (and nature) of convincing did it take to get them to offer something better?
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Droid Maxx seems like a contender... just sayin. I have had my T-bolt for a year now and never had any issues with it
Okay. So me and my mother are switching to AT&T soon, from Sprint. The skyrocket is the phone I'm going to go with, however I'm trying to figure out whether I should get the Skyrocket or use an old phone to hold me over until the skyrocket HD comes out? Yeah I know the only difference will be price and of course screen resolution but I don't want to get stuck for 2 years with 800x480 pixels when in a year we'll probably see like 3480x2140. Lol I'm wondering though, will the skyrocket HD have a decent amount of development? All I need is of course cm7/9 and or MIUI. I was also wondering, will it use the same roms and themes as the original Skyrocket since its the same phone just with a higher resolution screen? If that's the case I'm going to just wait for the HD. Which I'll probably do anyways. Just wanted to ask these questions. Thanks guys.
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Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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My snapdragon and screen are fine...anyhow, wait till the HD in my opinion. Skyrocket is a great phone either way.
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Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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there are these 3 letters that everyone NOT on TMo/Sprint like:
L
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The original poster already said he was conflicted on whether to get the Og or the HD because he didn't want to be left behind with an obsulete version. I say get the HD, my phone having the latest features helped me pick the skyrocket. I knew I would never be happy with a phone knowing LTE was out.
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Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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barmanham said:
Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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My Skyrocket is better than the SGS2 for AT&T (i777) I had previously: equivalent UI/app speed, much faster data, bigger screen, equivalent battery life.
What was your point?
By the time HD skyrocket hits retail the SGS 3 should be coming out.
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Okay. So me and my mother are switching to AT&T soon, from Sprint. The skyrocket is the phone I'm going to go with, however I'm trying to figure out whether I should get the Skyrocket or use an old phone to hold me over until the skyrocket HD comes out? Yeah I know the only difference will be price and of course screen resolution but I don't want to get stuck for 2 years with 800x480 pixels when in a year we'll probably see like 3480x2140. Lol I'm wondering though, will the skyrocket HD have a decent amount of development? All I need is of course cm7/9 and or MIUI. I was also wondering, will it use the same roms and themes as the original Skyrocket since its the same phone just with a higher resolution screen? If that's the case I'm going to just wait for the HD. Which I'll probably do anyways. Just wanted to ask these questions. Thanks guys.
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Development between the Skyrocket and HD will likely see a huge amount of overlap. Adapting ROMs from one to the other will likely require little more than a recompile. So in that regard, ultimately the two models are good for us, brings more people into the fold.
So don't worry about the HD getting neglected. If that's your concern, wait it out.
You might also want to consider the regular Galaxy S II. All it's missing is LTE, and it's cheaper, available right now, already has ICS, and the Exynos is generally considered to be the more powerful chip (although the difference isn't that huge, they're both very speedy phones).
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By the time HD skyrocket hits retail the SGS 3 should be coming out.
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In Korea or whatever. We never get that stuff until 6 months later.
Even if you get the HD another phone that's better will probably come out. Besides isn't the battery life going to be worse on HD than on the OG rocket?
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my advice is to wait for the HD and see how it compares performance, battery wise etc and then make a decision. Not sure the snapdragon or any processor can handle almost 3X more pixels with ease.
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Even if you get the HD another phone that's better will probably come out. Besides isn't the battery life going to be worse on HD than on the OG rocket?
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It doesn't really work that way. The HD Super AMOLED screen isn't going to use more just because of its resolution. Super AMOLED Plus in our phones demonstrated much lower power consumption, despite a huge increase in subpixel resolution compared to the Super AMOLED panels in the first Galaxy S.
I mean the screen may or may not be a greater power draw. I haven't seen any comparisons. But I wouldn't assume it is just because it's HD resolution.
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Not sure the snapdragon or any processor can handle almost 3X more pixels with ease.
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This is a legit concern. Not that the chip can't handle it; It's at the very least better equipped to do so than the OMAP in the Galaxy Nexus. But there's surely a performance hit to be taken by running at a much higher resolution.
The Galaxy S II LTE WIMAX came out here in Japan recently with the HD resolution. The screen is slightly bigger than the LTE/Skyrocket but the AMOLED technology is the same as the previous Galaxy S II.
The screen is very nice, perhaps a little better than the LG Optimus LTE HD (Nitro) in terms of viewing angle and brightness, however it's not the same as the super AMOLED plus in the LTE/Skyrocket which is quite vivid by comparison.
Text on the WIMAX is very readable, and nicer to read than on the LTE, however some people might find it a little too small. I've always been a 1080p guy, but have found myself straining my eyes on small screens these days. A 10.1" tablet would just about be the minimum size for full HD.
The smaller size resolution and screen on the LTE makes panel transition smoother (the Galaxy S II is smoother still), the HD panels of the WIMAX is hefty work for the same processor also used by the LTE, if speed is your priority then I would recommend waiting for the second generation HD phones to come out with much faster processors.
I had a feeling that the HD panels wouldn't be as bright being a first generation type which was why I went for the LTE, it may probably be the last of the 800x480 type but it will be the best it can be.
Anyway and we are still subjected to regular Android changes that may produce more HD based applications, so who knows where this will be heading. It will benefit tablets more because the higher resolution helps, but not sure on mobile phones.
The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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lol! I was at a meeting in December and pulled out my skyrocket to look at something and a co worker said "why are your icons so big? Is that the cricket phone for old people?" hahahaha!
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The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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same exact situation here! Once density changed, it changed everything for me! Had the same issues when retiring the atrix.
Get HD Go big or do not go at all Luv my rocket
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The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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I will have to check out that app! I have been bothered by the giant icons after coming from the Atrix. I'm looking forward to trying out the Alien ROM on this phone, I loved it on the Atrix.
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I will have to check out that app! I have been bothered by the giant icons after coming from the Atrix. I'm looking forward to trying out the Alien ROM on this phone, I loved it on the Atrix.
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I have the Galaxy Captivate, the AT&T Galaxy S II, and the Skyrocket.
The captivate served me well. Still is kicking ass with ICS on it.
The AT&T Galaxy S II is nice, fast and a good phone.
But I use the skyrocket because it's JUST as fast as the GS II, it's got LTE and a bigger screen (My screen looks fine, great actually).
I had some battery issues with a rom but flashed again and It's been kicking along just fine. 12 hours later , still got 63% battery left.
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The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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Wow thanks for the tip on that app, love my phone even more now! Just wish I could fit more apps on the screen now, they seem so spaced out...lol
Ok nevermind about fitting more apps. Tried out ADW Launcher and it works beautifully. Only pita is having to go back to stock resolution to install some things in the market then setting everything up again...