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G2x GB update...

have a look *near* the bottom of:
www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/carrie...artphonegeek-dot-dot-dot-its-another-week-and
take the info with a grain of salt and for whatever it's worth. who really knows.

Ya there's already a thread about this
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that it's 2.3.3 rather than 2.3.4?
and, that the info is coming from an lg source directly?
i've been on this forum all day and i've not seen that reported here.
sorry if i missed it.

Well you weren't to specific on what you were referencing
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i referenced the specific info *near* the bottom of the thread. it was posted about an hour ago.
which thread on xda were you referring to?

I honestly don't care if it's 2.3.3 or 2.3.4, I just want them to release something with fixed drivers already so we can use them.
All the great developers here will upgrade their roms to 2.3.4 anyway, all we need are the bug fixes

useless rumors. back in april they said "coming soon", it's almost july

fyi
first it doesnt surprise me that they are releasing an outdated os again i mean they are only a million dollar company not big like cyanogen .
2nd is smartphonegeek although maybe hes trying to be helpful hasnt given us 1 bit of correct info yet. so although this is probably true im putting no faith in anything he says anymore unfortunately.

We all knew it was 2.3.3 to begin with. No surprises there.
Plus 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 aren't that different. I run CM7 which has 2.3.4 and honestly it is just a number.
I think the only phones running 2.3.4 are the Nexus Phones. The Sensation, Galaxy S2, and G2x will all be at 2.3.3
Although I did see an unofficial 2.3.4 update for the Samsung Galaxy S, it is nothing official.
Lets just hope that this LG update doesn't count GB for future upgrades, as most manufactures will provide at least a few upgrades to the OS. I'd be happy with an official 2.4 Ice Cream update though.

The sensation runs 2.3.3
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A question
If I have already installed the leaked 2.3.3 when the ota rolls out will it download that for me since I"m already showing 2.3.3 on my settings or will I have to use Nandroid , reset to original and then get the update?

2.3.4 have two major changes:
1. video support on Gtalk
2. IPv6 support

As long as the changes would take care of the rebooting and battery issues. Last night I unplugged at 100%, went to sleep and this morning battery was dead
I"m just ready for the darn update to get this thing running as it should. and since I"m not a T-Mo customer I cant return it to T-Mo.

mahgninnuc93 said:
If I have already installed the leaked 2.3.3 when the ota rolls out will it download that for me since I"m already showing 2.3.3 on my settings or will I have to use Nandroid , reset to original and then get the update?
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either that or keep your phone rooted and wait for someone to compile a stock/rooted version that you can install. it usually only takes one of those guys a few hours after they get the release... thats the way I did it with my N1 after I rooted it.

mahgninnuc93 said:
As long as the changes would take care of the rebooting and battery issues. Last night I unplugged at 100%, went to sleep and this morning battery was dead
I"m just ready for the darn update to get this thing running as it should. and since I"m not a T-Mo customer I cant return it to T-Mo.
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Because the leaked GB update is horrible. Of all the roms in this forum, THAT unofficial GB leak was the worst. Ever 4 hours the phone would be found turned off in my pocket. It would die on a charger.
If you want a working phone, get that crap off of there. Even EaglesBlood version based on the leak caused me the same issues.
Flash Eaglesblood Froyo edition or CM7.1 RC1. I'd say those are your two best options right now.

Official update to 2.3 by years end.

Just got off the phone with magenta about my wifes phone.
while on there I asked the tech agent if she had heard anything about an update to gingerbread for sidekick 4g. she confirmed that an UPDATE TO GINGERBREAD IS IN THE WORKS! and they are hoping to have it out by the end of the year.
made me happy, just wanted to let you guys know.

jahnbodah said:
Just got off the phone with magenta about my wifes phone.
while on there I asked the tech agent if she had heard anything about an update to gingerbread for sidekick 4g. she confirmed that an UPDATE TO GINGERBREAD IS IN THE WORKS! and they are hoping to have it out by the end of the year.
made me happy, just wanted to let you guys know.
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thanks
this is wonderful news!

If its like that ima keep this phone cuz gingerbread means kernel means cm7 and miui yessssss
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is this a joke or are u serious ?

No joke. I asked if it would be getting a 2.3 update and she said they are trying to make it so that by the end of the year all major (and sk4g is considered major) android phones will be on gingerbread. she specifically said sidekick will get 2.3 and I quote "There is no date yet, but they are trying to get it by the end of the year"
Of course, you have to keep in mind that I am taking someone elses word for it. albiet, it is someone "on the inside"

In the works is very different from saying "by year's end." Samsung makes builds and sends them to Tmo, but they never make it out to the end-user until they approve it. It's very likely that the sidekick will be one of the last of the "new" phones to get GB, as they have to add much more to our UI than just porting it to fit our processor, but also need to add the social parts of our phone (whether we want them or not).
P.S. GB has been "in the works" since the phone was released, it's all a matter of getting Tmo and Samsung to agree on what constitues a good/ releasable build.

I have the strange feeling that our sk4g won't ever get gingerbread officially t-mobile has a funny way of coming out with new devices rather than updating the original ones :-/ I forsee a new sidekick with gingerbread official coming out rather than us getting an official build. Don't quote me on it or anything its pure speculation but if I'm right give me some props or something lol
Not to say we won't find a way of porting the "new sk gingerbread" to th sk4g but I have a feeling the new device is more likely hell they may even release gingerbread for us and the new sk at the same time lol
The moral of this story is: personal opinions are fun. Aren't they? Lol
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I think we're better off waiting for ICS.

long wait...

For those counting, as soon as the GB source for the SGS4G gets released I can port their GB system to our phone, their ROMs/Kernels boot on our phones, they just don't have the drivers to do anything (like display what's going on).
The SGS4G has been getting leaked versions of GB for a month+ now, so the official GB release should be soon (hopefully).

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For those counting, as soon as the GB source for the SGS4G gets released I can port their GB system to our phone, their ROMs/Kernels boot on our phones, they just don't have the drivers to do anything (like display what's going on).
The SGS4G has been getting leaked versions of GB for a month+ now, so the official GB release should be soon (hopefully).
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183413
I found this. I is a leak for sgs4g 2.3.4 . I think.
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That's the leaked build, but not the leaked source. that's where the SGS4g has been getting GB for the past month+. The source would have to come from samsung.

sduvick said:
That's the leaked build, but not the leaked source. that's where the SGS4g has been getting GB for the past month+. The source would have to come from samsung.
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Sgs2 source code released good luck
https://opensource.samsung.com/rece...hod=reception_search&searchValue=SGH-I777_ATT
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The SGS2 is different from the SGS4g. The SGS4g is the one that I need, not the SGS2.

My bad lol
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What a way to BLOW a phone! From apps freezing system freezing restarts etc...I am feeling FORCED to go to an all touch screen device but I prefer not too! Ugh I can't stand manufactors they are stupid
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and then we trust we will have a new rom >: ) ?? or just a bare bones version

I spoke with someone that works for Tmobile and was told Tmo and samsung have been working on GB for the sidekick for more than 3 months and im guessing its taking that long cause they are trying to make it very similar to our Froyo interface, unfortunately (along with the Tmo crap). Otherwise they wouldve gave us a GB ROM similar to the SGS4G. He said he doesnt know when it'll officially be rolling out but we should have it before thanksgiving (end of november). Thats pretty far to me.. but then again i have a vibrant and still never got an official GB release so take this info with a grain of salt. as the rest of us i sure hope its comes soon. Better late than never.

I too got a vibrant and a sidekick... Will continue to hope one of them will update!
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I can't wait. I hope they fix a lot of bugs?
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Do u think its much longer for official gingerbread update?

The leak was out a while ago right?
So how long would it take them to release the official gingerbread OTA or via kies???
Another month? or most likely more?

Probably not for a while. I'm guessing somewhere around Janurary or Feburary.

I think KH1 or one of the others was an update through Kies but Samsung removed it.
Hopefully they'll release an official release before they release Hercules.
For now ICINB or Valhalla are 2 good Gingerbread ROMs. Even the stock KH2 is good. I'm currently on Valhalla.

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Probably not for a while. I'm guessing somewhere around Janurary or Feburary.
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lol if they released it around jan or feb it would be a waste as ics will be released this winter

Personally u just gave up on Tmobile GB official release. They really only care about money. Soft ware support for their devices is all the way in the bottom of their priority list unless it bring in direct cash income.

Are you blaming Tmobile? Definitely is samsungs responsibility to provide the update not t mo
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Yes t mo may do otas but they have to be given the update from the devs which I believe Samsung is holding out or not prioritizing it cause they want more moola
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Why would tmobile want this gb leaks to their customers?They are holding up because these samsung gb are kinda pathetic to release to the masses..bluetooth issues,low wifi signal when your only like inches away etcc..if they release gb like this you"ll have many customers calling tmobile about issues left and right.unless samsung figures out a really good gb release of THEIR OWN device its not coming out!..dev s make gb good on this phone

Ohh and lets not forget sg2 is around the corner,samsung might just screw us over or the people who are waiting on GB! Tmobile in general are idiots but on this ill agree with them releasing this would just bring them more trouble than good!

My bet is that if Hercules gets released before gb update then there will be no update. That will be Samsung and t mobiles flagship device. Their focus will be on that and ice cream for the newest phones.
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Yeah good point

BTW, Ice cream sandwich is designed to receive OTAs directly from google, instead of from the phone makers. So, ice cream sandwich will only work, if they remove the updater function or dump touchwiz. And I highly doubt that they will dump touchwiz, so that means Galaxy s will die with all their devices being stuck on GB(or leaks), and they are not doing any more nexus line phones. HTC or LG will be making nexus 3. Also, you said that they would focus on releasing ICS to the newer devices, I doubt that. GB was already long out when our phone was released on Froyo. And "50+%" chance that GB will never officially come to our phones. So what makes you think that they will update to ICS. They will probably give out buggy leaks and die there.
Phone release on eclair or froyo from Sammy, will stay on Froyo.
Phone release on GB from Sammy, will stay on GB.
That is my point. Not to make anyone's hopes down. We will have a lot more fun with this phone, I guarantee that CM7 will "eventually" work and we will many more roms to come.
PS. I never liked Sammy. This was just the best phone when I bought it

im going to disagree that the sgs4g in your mind wont be getting ics as google plans to release it to all devices to unify and defragment the android os.. remember samsung makes the hardware and some of the applicatons that go in the phone they how ever do not make the os. t mobile att verizon orange vodaphone will submit to google the stuff they want in there rom (the bloatware we remove ) Once approved that there features do not break the os (this is why they do test for the most part.) the carriers get there updates and wala so do u once they are pushed out as ota or keis

You have a great point. But touchwiz is created by samsung. Standardly, otas are pushed out as recovery edify flash able files with a META-INF, and a /system and etc folders. Samsung releases their kies otas that flash a bunch of rfs files. Samsung maintains their rfs file system and zImage kernel form. Android uses boot.imgs. So in order to use ICS, there will probably need to be an irreversible boot loader flash that will make the phone use boot.imgs instead of zImages. Possibly revert method would be flash old bls with CWM or stock androidbl

I find it disheartening that people are now guessing january or february for a gb release, when in july everyone was saying august or september.
I knew before purchasing this phone that Samsung sucks at updating firmware, but it truly seemed to have the best features at the time, and to be honest, (six months later) I'm glad I didn't wait for the S2. When does the Hercules come out btw?
Also, how long would it take a noob to load a custom rom/bootloader, and would it be possible with a mac?
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Sure, you just need heimdall Mac edition, that is what I use.
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ToiletSalesman said:
I find it disheartening that people are now guessing january or february for a gb release, when in july everyone was saying august or september.
I knew before purchasing this phone that Samsung sucks at updating firmware, but it truly seemed to have the best features at the time, and to be honest, (six months later) I'm glad I didn't wait for the S2. When does the Hercules come out btw?
Also, how long would it take a noob to load a custom rom/bootloader, and would it be possible with a mac?
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Disheartening indeed. The longer they take to release it the longer we all have to wait for kernel sources to be release and they have up to 3 months I believe after the OTA release to release kernel source code. Until then we have no custom kernels for GB that support cool things like Voodoo for sound and BLN. Those two things not being available for GB though the former is thanks to RaverX3X, are the sole reasons why I still stick to froyo.

Compxpert said:
Disheartening indeed. The longer they take to release it the longer we all have to wait for kernel sources to be release and they have up to 3 months I believe after the OTA release to release kernel source code. Until then we have no custom kernels for GB that support cool things like Voodoo for sound and BLN. Those two things not being available for GB though the former is thanks to RaverX3X, are the sole reasons why I still stick to froyo.
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Um theres voodoo sound for gb too..just get the paid lastest version!

daxecutioner24 said:
Um theres voodoo sound for gb too..just get the paid lastest version!
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he means i modified the sound in the rom enough that its not really needed

Ugh will they ever come out with new stock firmware?
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How soon for ICS on Charge

To all those super developers out there.
Assuming that Ice Cream Sandwich is running on a suped up Galaxy S2 for Verizon, with LTE. How fast do you think you guys will get it over to the Charge?
Also, I have never bought any of that team Black Hat stuff, but if you could get me ICS a month after release, I would be more than happy to pay you for it.
Many of you are younger guys, and you seem to work for charity, but why? Business is business, if you've got something people want, consider charging for it.
I'm sure some people are reading this thinking I am nuts, but if these guys charged for roms, they would have more time to put into it. In some respects I am just saying what everyone already know, you get what you pay for.
Thank you to the entire dev community. Keep up the good work.

Danwsim said:
To all those super developers out there.
Assuming that Ice Cream Sandwich is running on a suped up Galaxy S2 for Verizon, with LTE. How fast do you think you guys will get it over to the Charge?
Also, I have never bought any of that team Black Hat stuff, but if you could get me ICS a month after release, I would be more than happy to pay you for it.
Many of you are younger guys, and you seem to work for charity, but why? Business is business, if you've got something people want, consider charging for it.
I'm sure some people are reading this thinking I am nuts, but if these guys charged for roms, they would have more time to put into it. In some respects I am just saying what everyone already know, you get what you pay for.
Thank you to the entire dev community. Keep up the good work.
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are you talking about the complete system dump of ICS as a stock rom? or custom rom like Gummy/Humble using it as a base? If it's the first option it could take a while longer... though it kinda makes me wonder if VZ is holding out on GB for us to get ICS to our phones, it seems kinda pointless to upgrade us to GB then this magical new build ICS comes out a month later

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are you talking about the complete system dump of ICS as a stock rom? or custom rom like Gummy/Humble using it as a base? If it's the first option it could take a while longer... though it kinda makes me wonder if VZ is holding out on GB for us to get ICS to our phones, it seems kinda pointless to upgrade us to GB then this magical new build ICS comes out a month later
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This is assuming Samsung doesn't abandon us after Gingerbread is released.
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This is assuming Samsung doesn't abandon us after Gingerbread is released.
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This would be my guess unfortunately. Of course I have no evidence or reasons to support my belief, but its my guess nonetheless

If the charge does get ics i highly doubt it will be before summer of 2012. To be honest i wouldn't even count on that though. At least going by there current track record of verizon and sammy. But only time will tell.
I just really hope that these top end phones will start keeping up with current android builds. the fascinate was on eclair when gb was released and now the charge is on froyo and ics is about to be released.

well isn't ICS supposed to be like the universal android build for all devices? you'd think they'd wanna push it out to all (perhaps more recent ones) android smartphones
blazing through on my 4G Droid Charge

idk but i hope your right anoninja. It would be nice to see.

I'm counting on JT getting CM7 finished and pulled into the CM mainline. Hopefully that will eventually lead to some ICS goodness in CM8.

ICS for the thunderbolt?

With all the discussion about IcS next week I think it will be interesting to ask here.Will Verizon ever give us it officially and what dev will give us the first functional port?
Sent from my Cyanogen Thunderbolt.

Will HTC/VZW give it to us? Absolutely not. We barely got Gingerbread..technically speaking we haven't even received an official GB yet as the OTA was pulled back. However, I am very excited for CyanogenMod as the Thunderbolt will most likely receive ICS this way. I've been on Sense since the beginning but will def be moving over to Cyanogen once ICS is released.

i'm willing to bet that TeamBamf will have a mod of ICS as well.

Yea thats what I was thinking. Verizon will leave us out in the wind and BAMF or some Cyanogen build will be the first. How long are you guys thinking? My eris had Froyo within a few hours of the source being released. I'm hoping with some of our wonderful devs we can see timing like that again that was awesome.

Rarely, if ever, does an Android phone get more than one version upgrade from the manufacturer.

Bye bye thunderbolt I will be getting the prime....lol we had official gb for two days

Okay couple things... Hell no VZW HTC don't care about bolt anymore... Like someone said, we haven't even gotten our hands on official gingerbread... They broke yet another ota.
Devs will get ICS, seems like some parts of ICS would need a "dual-core" but i don't really think that that is anything more than a stigma
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Rarely, if ever, does an Android phone get more than one version upgrade from the manufacturer.
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Agreed wired, but maybe we will get lucky like we did on the og incredible. Froyo upgrade and gingerbread. Could happen! (although not likely)

I know that teh Haxxor said that he should have ICS built into his ROM by the end of the year. With how much this update is adding I wouldn't expect it anytime soon.

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Agreed wired, but maybe we will get lucky like we did on the og incredible. Froyo upgrade and gingerbread. Could happen! (although not likely)
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4G and single core will keep all those dreams of OTA from coming true.
If I helped you in any way please use the thank you button

Android phones are suppose to get updates for 18 months from release. I should hope we get the update although god knows they will take their sweet time.

Eh Not Really Worried. I'm sure Cyanogen will get it done. Hopefully before i move onto the Vigor

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Really?
HTC G1: Android 1.0? > Cupcake > Donut.
HTC Evo 4G: Eclair > Froyo> Gingerbread.
HTC MyTouch 3G: Cupcake > Donut> Eclair.
Motorola Droid: Eclair 2.0 > Eclair 2.0.1 > Eclair 2.1 > Froyo
Motorola Droid X: Eclair > Froyo > Gingerbread.
Droid Incredible: Eclair > Froyo > Gingerbread.
Samsung Fascinate: Eclair > Froyo > Gingerbread.
I am sure there are more.

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Android phones are suppose to get updates for 18 months from release. I should hope we get the update although god knows they will take their sweet time.
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If that were the case Kyocera would have to update the Zio since it's only 13 months old...
Google would like manufacturers to update up to 18 months, but some phones are simply forgotten. My phone has only had 1 firmware update since it's release. Donut 1.6 > Froyo 2.2.1
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apfrost said:
Android phones are suppose to get updates for 18 months from release. I should hope we get the update although god knows they will take their sweet time.
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Yes, maybe patch/bug updates for 18 months. Nothing says they have to do full version upgrades.

The new liquid smooth rom has ics on it. You just have to switch to it from the liquid settings.
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That's just a launcher that mimics ICS made by syndicate apps on liquids thunderbread rom.
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The OG Droid came with 2.0 and they got 2.1 and 2.2.

well first HTC has to make a custom version of it.. then verizon has to load it up with all the bloat.. so it would most likely take a long time if it ever does happen

Root and CM8 should do the trick.