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GPS N3wb question...

Ok, maybe you guys can help here. I have quite a bit of experience with Windows Mobile phones (had an 8525, upgraded to a custom ROM, unlocked SIM/CID, etc), so that's what level of experience you're working with.
Now, I just picked up the Fuze, very cool phone! However, I'm wondering the following about GPS:
1. Is it available in this phone (i.e. AT&T didn't disable it).
2. I want to do GPS. I don't have a data plan. I DO have wi-fi. I DON'T want to be charged money. Is this possible?
Thanks in advance! The questions were probably asked elsewhere, but I looked around a bit and everything else looked way above these questions, which hopefully are pretty simple to answer...

i have the same question...
I know the Fuze has GPS, and i followed the steps on THIS link, but it doesnt seem to work, the GPS Test, never seems to finish looking for satelites, and when i go to Google Maps, it keeps "seeking GPS satelites"

GPS is available on the Fuze and it's independent of any data plan. All you need is some program that can access the GPS.
However, getting the GPS to work seems to be flakey at best. I tested mine briefly but wasn't able to get a signal lock. Need to do some more testing.

The GPS on my Fuze works great. First you should run Quick GPS and it will use the wifi to download the current GPS satellite locations. Then you should use google maps, you have to goto google maps menu and say 'use gps' then just go stand outside somewhere where theres no much tree coverage and wait for awhile (for the first time, now that I've done it once the GPS starts working in 10 seconds or so) Then you will start to pick up the gps satellites. I'm not sure how great it will be without a data plan... it uses the data plan to download the map info. Hopefully your wifi works out side.

cladeus101 said:
The GPS on my Fuze works great. First you should run Quick GPS and it will use the wifi to download the current GPS satellite locations. Then you should use google maps, you have to goto google maps menu and say 'use gps' then just go stand outside somewhere where theres no much tree coverage and wait for awhile (for the first time, now that I've done it once the GPS starts working in 10 seconds or so) Then you will start to pick up the gps satellites. I'm not sure how great it will be without a data plan... it uses the data plan to download the map info. Hopefully your wifi works out side.
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What about using something like Garmin or TomTom's software? Would that work without a data plan, and without the need for wi-fi?

I use Garmin without a data plan and it works great. I installed it first thing after I got my GPS and didn't do anything to get it to work. The GPS on my FUZE worked out of the box like it should.

GPS Questions for Fuze

I am curious if it is possible to use the built in GPS without a data plan.
I know that the QuickGPS (which keeps reminding me to download new data) makes use of the cell towers for downloading, but I was curious if I could, say, use Google Maps or TomTom or something.
IE, download the map software through the WiFi connection, and then just use the GPS (bypassing the cell towers).

espais said:
I am curious if it is possible to use the built in GPS without a data plan.
I know that the QuickGPS (which keeps reminding me to download new data) makes use of the cell towers for downloading, but I was curious if I could, say, use Google Maps or TomTom or something.
IE, download the map software through the WiFi connection, and then just use the GPS (bypassing the cell towers).
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you could use tomtom or igo without using data. google won't work without data though.

mr.jaguar said:
you could use tomtom or igo without using data. google won't work without data though.
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to expand on this, google doesn't have hte maps downloaded to your phone. the other two actually store the maps on the phone (memory card) so it doesn't need to use data to download the maps. the actual gps chip does not use data as it communicates with gps satellites to triangulate your position. The only problem with these programs is that htey cost money, so if you're willing to drop some cash, then you have your solution.

Question regarding Google maps navigation

hi, i'm new to this forum.
i purchased a nexus one and im running it on ATT without edge (yet).
now i know that google navigation needs a connection through wifi or data to download the general directions, but does the gps service work through data also? i.e. does the gps connection cost money/ is done through the mobile carrier or is it a connection like a regular gps device that google provides free of charge?
I tried googling this first btw, but could find a clear answer.
thank you

The GPS itself doesn't use data, but loading the maps does.
You'd have to buy and download one of the GPS apps on the Market -- something that stores all the maps on your SD card. Google Maps and Google Navigation stream the maps to your phone through the data connection, so without a data connection you could find your coordinates (since the GPS still functions), but you'd have no idea where those coordinates are.

but the gps use is complementary? google provides the satellite connection for location free of charge?

I've had the gps tracking me while the phone was in airplane mode. I was using one of the GPS speedometers and it seemed to work. That was on my G1, haven't tried it on the nexus yet though.

GPS
GPS has nothing to do with Google or your carrier. GPS coordinate data is a free service provided by the US government to anyone with a compatible device. Like others are saying though, Google Navigation only caches a limited amount of map data on your route, not the whole thing so if you don't have a data connection, you need to buy a different app

i did not realize the US government provided gps services.
i must say i am very impressed by the nexus one a google so far.

[Q] Is data plan required to use GPS on samsung captivate

Guys,
I jus bought Samsung Captivate. I am new to this.
Is data plan required to use Google maps/Google navigation/GPS on samsung captivate?
If yes, then what is meant by integrated GPS. On wirefly site it says pre-loaded google maps. Should not it behave like normal GPS then?
My GPS does not work unless 3G data or wi-fi (in short internet is on) enabled. I get the lock pretty fast if 3G data or wi-fi enabled. If I turn them off I keep getting message data connection lost.
I block my 3G data using APNDroid or JuiceDefender.
TIA.

ahh technically/theoretically? If you can get a maps program that has an offline cache of files, then no data wouldn't be required. I recall spotting some google map cachers and I think there was an extra android app or two you could use that utilize some sort of downloaded maps. MapDroyd looks like a familair name but I can't speak for any of them since I just stream with google and never tried anything offline anyhow.

kismmisk said:
Guys,
I jus bought Samsung Captivate. I am new to this.
Is data plan required to use Google maps/Google navigation/GPS on samsung captivate?
If yes, then what is meant by integrated GPS. On wirefly site it says pre-loaded google maps. Should not it behave like normal GPS then?
My GPS does not work unless 3G data or wi-fi (in short internet is on) enabled. I get the lock pretty fast if 3G data or wi-fi enabled. If I turn them off I keep getting message data connection lost.
I block my 3G data using APNDroid or JuiceDefender.
TIA.
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The program "Google Maps" is preloaded, but Google Maps requires a data connection. The GPS chip itself is integrated and you can get your Latitude and Longitude without needing a data connection.
So, yes you have Integrated GPS and Google Maps, but you need a data connection to use Google Maps in real time navigation or just pulling up a map.
As mentioned above, if you want to do mapping without a data connection then you need a way to store maps on your phone - All of North America usually takes up few gigs of space depending on the application.

Att will automatically recognize your phone as a smart phone and will add a data plan. I don't think there is a way around it.
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kismmisk said:
Guys, Is data plan required to use Google maps/Google navigation/GPS on samsung captivate?
If yes, then what is meant by integrated GPS. On wirefly site it says pre-loaded google maps. Should not it behave like normal GPS then?
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I do not know what 'preloaded' Google Maps is, but yes, Google Maps/Navigator does require data. If you want a GPS software that uses only the GPS chip (and no data), there are software that does that. Personally, I prefer CoPilot Live.

Thanks all for your replies and answers! It helped.

GPS way off

Hey all,
I'm using a rooted TB running BAMF 1.3.2, and my GPS location is anywhere from 5 blocks off to like half a mile off, usually. This is the case whether I'm using Google Location Services, Verizon GPS Services, or Standalone GPS.
Any ideas on how to fix this?

Try the new radio and latest Rom version. Or use the app gps status to reset your gps.

You could also try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13071166&postcount=2870

GPS way offArrow
My GPS jumps around based on what ROM I have installed. Right now I am using the Twisted Sense 1.51 and it's perfect.

The app called gps status, go outside and run it for a bit. Look at how many satilites you hook up to. Clear the caches in google maps and it should lock in your position.
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GPS doesn't work...
Yeah.... so... GPS was working fine the other day. Location would jump around on the weather widget, but would work just fine using Google Maps or Glympse.... Now I get nothing. No satellites, and it's like it's not even looking. GPS Status, GPS Essentials and a couple others, and nothing at all. If i turn off verizon location and google location, all the apps act like i don't have any location service at all...
Still using stock rom, all I did was root, and GPS was working fine until yesterday.
Any ideas?
Edit: noob mistake. Shelled out the 4 bucks for root explorer, modified gps.config (mounted as ro with the free aps), rebooted and works just fine. Also bought the xda app cuz you guys have helped me with my tmo dash, vz touch pro, and vz imagio. Happy flashing everyone!

Hey again,
So, still no luck with the GPS. Upgraded to BAFM 1.6.3. Upgraded radio to 1.13.605.7 (1.16.00.0402w_1 CMDA) -- first one in The Obligatory Thunderbolt Radio Thread.
Still: my position is like 10 blocks off, and if I don't have Google Location Service turned on, it doesn't find my position at all, just as always.
Is there ANY help for my poor GPS?

mine was acting crazy also but with a diff rom. i got the new CDMA and old LTE and that fixed my problem. it would say i was 10miles away from my house or were ever i was

@skeet43169,
Do you have the version numbers for those?