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I'm very surprised the Nexus S didn't come out with a higher resolution Super Amoled screen. Apparently, 2.3 supports higher resolution according to wikipedia. I'm just waiting for a new android phone with a higher resolution/pixel density to put the iphone 4 to shame.
Imagine, a Super Amoled screen with a 1024x768 or 1280x720 resolution would be the best mobile phone screen in the world.
When do you think we will realistically see android phones with higher resolution displays?
The current Super AMOLED screen already trades blows with the Retina Display. I'm sure there will be higher res screens at some point but whats the rush? Wouldnt a higher resolution screen be more of a burden on battery than the current screens already are anyway? I'd see resolutions that high being more relevant for tablets and PMP than phones.
Why? It will drain battery more and more, and higher resolution don't need for still small display. Just imagine, MP3 player with Desktop resolution.
Haha? Try push sensor button, wtf it's so small...
U wanna get more ability to use sensor keyboard? (sarcastic)
Well, android definitely needs to match or better the 640x960 resolution of the iPhone 4 to maintain feature parity.
The current SuperAMOLED screens are less battery consuming than old LCD and Retina, so bigger resolutions shouldn't be a battery problem.
But what's the point of having 1280x768 on a 4" screen?
I'm pretty satisfied with 480x320 on 3.2" and 800x480 on 4" looks also awesome.
The Meizu M9 have a 960x640 display, but (even if you are in china) this little boy is still difficult to find.
The next Meizu (M9ii) will have a 1280×854 or 1280×800 4" screen, and should be animated by a Tegra2 with 1Gb of RAM. They said that the release date will be on middle 2011, so maybe we will be able to grap it in the late 2011.
The two phones are running on a custom android 2.2 (the UI is very different from the classical Android).
For the battery, it's more backlight that drains power.
A higher resolution will only put a little more stress on the GPU, but if the OS is well coded, it should not consume a lot more.
DPI, its all about DPI
You can have all the DPI in the world, but all its gonna mean is LAG and Battery if we're still relying on the CPU to push pixels.
dimon222 said:
Why? It will drain battery more and more, and higher resolution don't need for still small display. Just imagine, MP3 player with Desktop resolution.
Haha? Try push sensor button, wtf it's so small...
U wanna get more ability to use sensor keyboard? (sarcastic)
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You have absolutely no comprehension of what resolution is. Look at the iphone going from 480x320 to 960x640. Did the icons get smaller? No I didn't think so. You simply put more pixels into an icon the same size. Because it seems you're under the impression that pixel count determines image size.
however, there is no need for a higher resolution because the display is that too small. better resolution would look like the same as the resolution looks on current phones.
I can see several reasons to be interested in higher screen resolution (but IMHO you will need at least a 3.5" display):
Games
ok, that's not for today, but with ports like the unreal engine on android, phones will become more like a mobile console (PSP phone, for example). A better resolution sounds like a better playing experience, but will still need more powerful hardware (and that's on the way with multi core SOC)
Video
isn't that obvious? and it's essential if you're watching videos with subtitles
Internet
I don't know for you, but on my 800x480 handset, i have to zoom out to have the full page, and zoom in, etc...
With a better screen resolution, the navigation will be easier
It's not interesting for everybody, but I think clivo360 and I are not the only guys looking for a higher resolution screen
Although 4.3" is probably the upper limit for what you'd consider "pocketable", I'd still be attracted to bigger screens and more powerful phones because there are things that can take advantage of them, such as video. Imagine 1080p screens on a phone!
At some point though, phones are probably going to suffer the same problem that PCs did - that hardware outdoes all user needs. Imagine a point where the hardware has reached such a point where for the average user, they don't need the most potent phone anymore. We're already well on the way there. It happened with PCs, where the average user needs office software such as word processing, a spreadsheet, and the Internet, but nothing that demands crazy hardware (the average user is not a high end gamer we're talking here).
A better resolution makes even more difference on an SAMOLED screen compared to an LCD/SLCD - due to the PenTile matrix configuration of pixels a 800x480 SAMOLED screen doesn't really have as many pixels as an 800x480 standard LCD.
Just take a close look at the screen of a Nexus One or Nexus S at some text and you'll see it's slightly fuzzy. See here for more info
Better resolutions aren't available yet because a) it's a relatively new technology and b) manufacturers are having a hard enough time making enough just to cover the existing devices that use them.
AFAIK, there is only one Android device with a larger screen resolution that, as long as you don't live in the good old US of A (and even there it can be done), can make calls: the Samsung Galaxy Tab. But not exactly small enough to fit in your trouser pocket (although it does slip easily into a jacket pocket).
PS: The Tab is fantastic for video (1080p MKV supported), games and general browsing (with plugins set to on-demand) plus the odd short book, although you do look very strange if you answer calls on it without a BT headset (very Trigger Happy).
Ugh, I won't flame people saying we don't need higher resolution, though I wanted to...
Here is one basic application where the higher resolution really does make a difference: Reading text .PDFs.
I tried reading PDFs on my 800 x 480 Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S) and I wish the text was a little smoother. Sure, I'd like a slightly larger screen (no more than 4.3") but if the screen was larger I'd be even more desperate for higher resolution. I'd like to see 1024 * 640 on a 4" Android.
Higher resolution does not nesc. need more battery/CPU power: it's the brightness that uses the battery most.
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I tried reading PDFs on my 800 x 480 Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S) and I wish the text was a little smoother. Sure, I'd like a slightly larger screen (no more than 4.3") but if the screen was larger I'd be even more desperate for higher resolution. I'd like to see 1024 * 640 on a 4" Android.
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Doesn't your phone's AMOLED screen use the PenTile matrix? If so, that's a huge factor. I have 2 Droid Incredibles, one AMOLED w/PenTile matrix, the other SLCD. The SLCD has MUCH smoother text despite both being the same 480x800 resolution. AMOLED w/PenTile matrix has a "screen door effect".
Anyway, Toshiba might make your dream come true, and even exceed what you'd like to see.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/toshiba-enters-pixel-density-fray-with-367ppi-lcds-for-cellphone/
its true about the screen door effect. texting the g2x is very smooth dispite the resolution being the same as the vibrant.
Not sure I could put larger than 4.3" in my pocket
Hi, I know this is probably a stupid question. But I was wondering if anyone knows that when Ice Cream Sandwich is released will be also be getting the 1280 by 720 resolution (essentially 720p) or is this limited by hardware and not software?
can your 19" computer monitor do 2560x1600?
its a hardware limitation...nothing software can fix
The screen res can't be set higher than its native res. the GSII's WVGA can't be set to 720p
I didn't know it was hardware limited. I can set my 1080p monitor to 1024 x 768 .. but that's software limited. I thought the Samsung Galaxy was like that since it's such a powerful phone. But I was wrong, so sorry for asking a question..
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I didn't know it was hardware limited. I can set my 1080p monitor to 1024 x 768 .. but that's software limited. I thought the Samsung Galaxy was like that since it's such a powerful phone. But I was wrong, so sorry for asking a question..
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1024x768 is a resolution LESS than 1080, obviously. i didnt ask you if you could DOWNGRADE your resolution via software...your 1080p monitor will never run 2560x1600 no matter what software you run...
if the hardware in this phone was actually capable of a higher resolution, dont you think they would have run it at that? i mean, thats a huge selling point on some of the other 4.5 inch devices. the resolution + LTE would have made this phone kill sales of a lot of other phones. its not like Gingerbread has a resolution limitation, so if it was just software, they could have released it with a higher resolution, again assuming the hardware would support it.
What it be possible to change the dpi/respultion to go from qhd to hd, wouldn't even care if it drops the fps a bit?
There is no point to this, there are physically not enough pixels on the screen for HD.
Hi,
I have a Samsung SkyRocket and Infuse both are set at a HDPI of 240.The Infuse has a DPI (dot per inch) width of 234.46153
and DPI height of 236,27907. The SkyRocket has a DPI width of 160.42105 and DPI height of 160.0.
Since both phones are set at a HDPI of 240 I am assuming that the Infuse has a better screen than the Skyrocket? I thought they were suppose to be the same screen? Why are the dot density different?
Looking at both phones, the Infuse has much sharper and illuminated fonts.
Thank you for any useful information in advance,
Giovanni
DPI is length (in X or Y direction) / amount of dots (pixels - for ppi).
If both screens have the same size and same proportion (which means equal X and Y sizes) - it means both screens have the same actual DPI.
That is, unless one of the screens is Pentile and the other isn't - which is not the case here.
You can see in specs that both screens are approx. 207ppi (pixels per inch). This is physical measurement, HW.
Whatever is set in SW - can be changed.
Hi Jack,
Thank you for your response. What you say makes a lot of sense.
Would you happen to know? Why is it that Pixel Density (dots per inch) is much lower on the SkyRocket after a factory reset? The app that I'm using is Screen&System and is showing a DPI width of 160.42105 and DPI height of 160.0. for the SkyRocket. Is there anyway
to change that and make it the same as the Infuse's width of 234.46153 and DPI height of 236,27907? Both phone's
are set at a HDPI of 240 already.
Thank you for your help!
Giovanni
Jack_R1 said:
DPI is length (in X or Y direction) / amount of dots (pixels - for ppi).
If both screens have the same size and same proportion (which means equal X and Y sizes) - it means both screens have the same actual DPI.
That is, unless one of the screens is Pentile and the other isn't - which is not the case here.
You can see in specs that both screens are approx. 207ppi (pixels per inch). This is physical measurement, HW.
Whatever is set in SW - can be changed.
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Since the app can't physically measure a screen, you'll need to know where the measurement comes from to see why it's shown as it is. Maybe it's another setting in build.prop, maybe something else.
Thank you for your response. Would you happen to know? Is there an app out there where I can verify where the measurement is coming from? I think I may have a defective screen with my Samsung SkyRocket
Thank you as your responses are much appreciated.
Jack_R1 said:
Since the app can't physically measure a screen, you'll need to know where the measurement comes from to see why it's shown as it is. Maybe it's another setting in build.prop, maybe something else.
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Hello! Was wondering if there was a way to change the resolution of the S6 from QHD down to 1080p. I've found the Nomone Resolution Changer, but I was wondering if there was a more trustworthy way about getting the resolution to get to 1080p. Long shot, but still! Recommendations, please?
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Hello! Was wondering if there was a way to change the resolution of the S6 from QHD down to 1080p. I've found the Nomone Resolution Changer, but I was wondering if there was a more trustworthy way about getting the resolution to get to 1080p. Long shot, but still! Recommendations, please?
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Mind if I ask why?
entropism said:
Mind if I ask why?
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Actually I was wondering the same thing until I remembered the fact it has a small battery and a 5.1" screen that really doesn't need the QHD resolution with such a small battery + screen
There are some apps available to change the DPI, i know that skydragon roms come pre baked with a DPI changer, but this will require root.
Stevles said:
Actually I was wondering the same thing until I remembered the fact it has a small battery and a 5.1" screen that really doesn't need the QHD resolution with such a small battery + screen
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But that's not how it works. The phone will still have the same qHD screen, and will still have the same amount of pixels, and require the same amount of power. You're basically just changing the DPI to make everything larger, using 4 pixels to display what 1 used to.
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But that's not how it works. The phone will still have the same qHD screen, and will still have the same amount of pixels, and require the same amount of power. You're basically just changing the DPI to make everything larger, using 4 pixels to display what 1 used to.
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No he actually wants to change the proper resolution, not DPI.
Less resolution = Less processing power required = Less battery spent.
That being said.. OP no there isn't a way
Stevles said:
No he actually wants to change the proper resolution, not DPI.
Less resolution = Less processing power required = Less battery spent.
That being said.. OP no there isn't a way
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Right, that's what I meant. You can't change the DPI (which would what he'd be doing) and have it magically change the physical number of pixels used.
No that's not what he's asking. He's asking this much like a TV. Instead of having it be QHD he wants it to display in 1080.
It's a clever way of thinking but that wouldn't help really. It'll still have the super pretty screen just everything would be smaller. Even if there was a way
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No that's not what he's asking. He's asking this much like a TV. Instead of having it be QHD he wants it to display in 1080.
It's a clever way of thinking but that wouldn't help really. It'll still have the super pretty screen just everything would be smaller. Even if there was a way
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But that's the point: Even if you wanted to display in 1080, you still have the same amount of physical pixels in the screen, and the same amount of power needed to light them up. Unless, of course, you wanted to only use 1920x1080 pixels, at which point only 25% of the display would actually be lit up.
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But that's the point: Even if you wanted to display in 1080, you still have the same amount of physical pixels in the screen, and the same amount of power needed to light them up. Unless, of course, you wanted to only use 1920x1080 pixels, at which point only 25% of the display would actually be lit up.
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You're missing the point.
First of all, lowering the resolution would make everything appear larger. You have to lower the DPI setting in build.prop to scale things back down to the same size (or lower).
Secondly, lowering the output resolution will save battery power and increase performance because the CPU and GPU are working less. This is fact and just how computers work (the screen is not the only power draw in a phone). The amount of physical pixels in the screen is irrelevant because that will draw the same amount of power regardless of what the resolution is. (However, since the is an AMOLED screen, it will draw less power when displaying blacks due to the nature of the technology. Not that this has anything to do with the resolution discussion.)
Thirdly, the amount of power you will be saying varies. Mostly you will gain performance and power-savings while playing 3D (rendered) games. The GPU will be able to perform at a higher framerate as well as save you power. This is tested and true, although some applications will be glitchy due to poor coding. The amount of savings while on normal screens is subject to the efficiency of the SoC. I am not sire much will be gained here. Performance in these screens is said to be slightly increased, although I believe this phone probably has snappy speeds already.
Lastly, if you do this there may be a visual issue that could get on your nerves. Since you are altering the 1:1 resolution of the pixels, a blur will naturally occur. Since the screen is relatively small for the amount of pixels in it, the blur will be minimal and you will hardly notice after your eyes adjust to it.
Using Resolution Changer Pro (free app) you can set res to 1080 and dpi to 480 for a significant improvement in gaming performance. (phone doesnt heat up like frying pan anymore)
Difference in quality is completely unboticable.
Thoth33 said:
Using Resolution Changer Pro (free app) you can set res to 1080 and dpi to 480 for a significant improvement in gaming performance. (phone doesnt heat up like frying pan anymore)
Difference in quality is completely unboticable.
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Yes after resolution changed, everything go smoother
Thoth33 said:
Using Resolution Changer Pro (free app) you can set res to 1080 and dpi to 480 for a significant improvement in gaming performance. (phone doesnt heat up like frying pan anymore)
Difference in quality is completely unboticable.
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Hello Thoth33,
I used Resolution Changer Pro, but it didn't change the resolution!
What do I do wrong? I use Android 6.0 beta on my Galaxy S6 (SM-G920F).
It even tells me that it gets root access!
Help The Peace said:
Hello Thoth33,
I used Resolution Changer Pro, but it didn't change the resolution!
What do I do wrong? I use Android 6.0 beta on my Galaxy S6 (SM-G920F).
It even tells me that it gets root access!
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It is required ROOT
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It is required ROOT
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I HAVE root...
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I HAVE root...
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Resolution Changer Pro
From the description:
####### THIS APP REQUIRES ROOT AND 4.0+ #######
####### TouchWIZ launcher will behave oddly -- install an alternate launcher BEFORE trying this #######
####### Android versions LOWER than 4.2 may not fill the whole screen. #######
Theodric58 said:
Resolution Changer Pro
From the description:
####### THIS APP REQUIRES ROOT AND 4.0+ #######
####### TouchWIZ launcher will behave oddly -- install an alternate launcher BEFORE trying this #######
####### Android versions LOWER than 4.2 may not fill the whole screen. #######
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Solved the problem via Android Terminal Emulator!!
i changed the resolution on my Galaxy S6 Active from QHD to just HD!! Did some graphics benchmarks and the results are more than 2 times those of QHD.
Oh, and I did this without ROOT.
Xa33M said:
i changed the resolution on my Galaxy S6 Active from QHD to just HD!! Did some graphics benchmarks and the results are more than 2 times those of QHD.
Oh, and I did this without ROOT.
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How to do it without root?
MobileTechArena said:
How to do it without root?
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You can do it via adb.
These are the 2 commands for both screen resolution and dpi
adb shell wm density (insert dpi here)
adb shell wm size (insert resolution here) && adb reboot
The reason for using both commands is that you have to use the correct dpi with your desired resolution and screen size, so that the icons and UI is neither too large nor too small, otherwise, the UI will crash
For example,
For Galaxy S6,
If you want 1080p, you have to choose 480 dpi as that is the correct dpi for a 5.1 Inch diaplay.
If you want to go back to QHD, just repeat the same commands with your stock dpi and resolution, which are
640 dpi
1440x2560 resolution && adb reboot
I did it via adb because currently there is no root for the S6 Active.