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mobile data vs wifi for google voice calls?

i had my thunderbolt set to wifi which i hardly ever do, left my house, and made a phone call using google voice while going for a walk. after i hung up, i noticed i had never turned mobile data back on. so, how did google voice handle my call half a mile from home without the verizon network? did it somehow switch seamlessly from wifi to mobile data without me agreeing to turn mobile data on?, just curious.
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wrb123 said:
i had my thunderbolt set to wifi which i hardly ever do, left my house, and made a phone call using google voice while going for a walk. after i hung up, i noticed i had never turned mobile data back on. so, how did google voice handle my call half a mile from home without the verizon network? did it somehow switch seamlessly from wifi to mobile data without me agreeing to turn mobile data on?, just curious.
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Google voice isnt VOIP... its using your cell signal, not your data. It does use a few packets to initiate the call over a data network, but after that, its using your minutes and your cell connection. The only real benefit for your average user is free text messaging (no mms) and visual voicemail for free. Its the same as using your cellphone otherwise, with far worse call quality.

if it's using cell connection, why would call quality be any different? I have only recently started using voice to dial out on calls and haven't really noticed a difference.

johnchad14 said:
if it's using cell connection, why would call quality be any different? I have only recently started using voice to dial out on calls and haven't really noticed a difference.
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There is no difference. Whether you are on WiFi or not, it still uses regular Verizon cell network as though you dialed the call normally. It still uses your minutes and doesn't use data.
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johnchad14 said:
if it's using cell connection, why would call quality be any different?
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Because you're going through more hops, which means more transcoding and latency.

hmm seems like the quality is fine to me... its not like im calling into a recording studio to lay down the vocals for my next track anyway.
the real question is more about how google voice can just turn my mobile data on without asking me when i turned it off, whereas something like google maps has to prompt me every time to turn gps on. it would be nice if google maps could just remember my preference "yes, its okay to enable gps when i launch maps/navigation or click to show my location" rather than being sent to the location settings from maps every time
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I'd heard about lower quality on voice calls but just haven't experienced it. Is the call still connecting through a third party between callers these days? My understanding was callers are connected by the service but once connection is established they are directly connected. Would be curious to know the technical details
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You mean you are getting free text messages with GV? It doesnt count towards your text mesaging plan

Most of you are misunderstanding the GV service. Quality is the same, because you your "voice" is not being re-encoded, altered, or even rerouted in any way. All the Google voice service does is accept/make calls then hand them off. Just like calling a secretary and them transferring you to another office. Your GV number is the secretary, when someone calls it it informs all your phones that someone wants to talk to you and when you pick one up it "transfers" the call to you on that phone. Just as if they directly called you. Absolutely no difference. This is not voip, like skype, vonage, etc.

trikotret said:
You mean you are getting free text messages with GV? It doesnt count towards your text mesaging plan
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yep, but google voice can't handle picture messaging. i just told everyone, hey... can't get picture messages anymore. post stuff on facebook or email it to me. awesome to be able to save $10 or so a month doing this on verizon. on sprint they don't let you decline text messaging on a smartphone plan that im aware of, so it doesn't matter on sprint. very happy with verizon on this issue!
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TsaiKimon said:
Most of you are misunderstanding the GV service. Quality is the same, because you your "voice" is not being re-encoded, altered, or even rerouted in any way. All the Google voice service does is accept/make calls then hand them off. Just like calling a secretary and them transferring you to another office. Your GV number is the secretary, when someone calls it it informs all your phones that someone wants to talk to you and when you pick one up it "transfers" the call to you on that phone. Just as if they directly called you. Absolutely no difference. This is not voip, like skype, vonage, etc.
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thanks for the explanation - good to know.
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Most of you are misunderstanding the GV service.
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Especially you.
When a secretary transfers a call, it's to another DN on the same PBX, the connection is simply rerouted within the same system. If they "hand you off to another office," then they are adding a hop, and possibly transcoding, unless the PBXs are in a common VoIP domain, or in very specific cases, are coordinated to do anti-tromboning (e.g. all calls enter the main office, which then trunks them to remote sites - if a call is then transferred back to the main site or to another office, anti-tromboning may be used).
With GV, when you call out, your phone calls a special number belonging to GV (you can see this if you have detailed billing). From that point, the number you dialed is in turn connected. GV can't reach into the carrier's system and reroute the call there. So, it's another hop of latency and transcoding. It wouldn't surprise me if Google had SIP trunks, since they tend to be cheaper at scale.
It's similar in reverse, someone calls your GV number, they're connected to a Google site, which in turn forwards the call to your cell number (or whatever number you define). Again, another hop.

the call quality is fine
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My call quality actually went down after starting to use GV on my Thunderbolt. I have a severe 2-3 second lag with almost all my calls I start. I have no problem when receiving a call, there's no lag. Anyone else in the same boat?
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yes to lag when starting calls, but that is due to the connection method certainly. Has to connect to voice, then voice connects both parties.
But haven't noticed any call quality degradation from switching (yet?)

Call Waiting BEEP - CM7

hey guys, i have a small issue.
whenever i am on the line and receive a call, i do not get the call waiting beep i used to when i was on cm7 on the vibrant. I cant find it in the settings anywhere. can anyone help?
i believe its only when i am on bluetooth in the car.

I installed rocket dialer and when I'm on Bluetooth and someone is calling me on the second line it sounds like I'm pushing the dialer buttons that's when I know someone is calling in. Without rocket dialer I had the same problems so give it a try and let me know if it worked for you
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So this is a known issue?
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found it....
Ok... This drove me crazy with my wife's phone. Searched all the forums I could find.
Go to Settings, Call Settings, All Calls, Alerts On Call. Hers was on vibrate. I clicked sound and it works fine now. Off also works.
Hope this works for everyone.

Google Voice not working very well.

Just got my Play today. White international version.
Im having terrible luck with google voice. I can't get to forward my calls through voice. I can't set it to receive texts through voice only. All I can do is revives calls when people call me. This is a bad issue. Does anyone else have any luck with Google voice? This could factor into a speedy return
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Zardos66 said:
Just got my Play today. White international version.
Im having terrible luck with google voice. I can't get to forward my calls through voice. I can't set it to receive texts through voice only. All I can do is revives calls when people call me. This is a bad issue. Does anyone else have any luck with Google voice? This could factor into a speedy return
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Look for the app GrooveIP
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Leraeniesh said:
Look for the app GrooveIP
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Checked it out. Not what im looking for. Thanks though.
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Zardos66 said:
Just got my Play today. White international version.
Im having terrible luck with google voice. I can't get to forward my calls through voice. I can't set it to receive texts through voice only. All I can do is revives calls when people call me. This is a bad issue. Does anyone else have any luck with Google voice? This could factor into a speedy return
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"I can't get to forward my calls through voice." I'm not sure what you mean. You can't get it to take incoming calls to your Google Voice number and forward to your native number or you can't get it to take incoming calls top your native number and forward to Google Voice for voicemail? Mine pops up a dialog saying that it failed to forward native calls to GV voicemail but it actually works. Even if it didn't there's still a code I can dial in to do the same thing. Some carriers do not support it though. My boss could not use GV to forward his MetroPCS voicemail to. If you are saying that you want calls made to your native number to ring your GV number, that would not be a feature of GV. That would require you to set up forwarding through your carrier.
"I can't set it to receive texts through voice only." Uhh, it can't block texts sent to your native number. Block texting with your provider and tell people to forget your old non-GV number, then use the GV app to receive texts (setting it to also receive via native Messaging app will forward them to your mobile number as regular billable text messages despite the wording of the option). Forwarding native texts to GV is also something your carrier would have to do unless you could find some app to do it. It's not a GV function.

I should have been a bit more clear. Was in a flurry last night.
I've got most of it fixed. I ported my phone number to voice when I changed carriers. So everyone still calls that, then voice routes the call to any phone you want. When I call out from my Nexus, it goes through Google voice and on the other persons end it shows my Voice number instead of my "real" phone number.
My Xperia recieves calls fine now, but I cant get it to call out through Google voice. So people are seeing my "real" number instead of my voice number.
First world problems.
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Zardos66 said:
I should have been a bit more clear. Was in a flurry last night.
I've got most of it fixed. I ported my phone number to voice when I changed carriers. So everyone still calls that, then voice routes the call to any phone you want. When I call out from my Nexus, it goes through Google voice and on the other persons end it shows my Voice number instead of my "real" phone number.
My Xperia recieves calls fine now, but I cant get it to call out through Google voice. So people are seeing my "real" number instead of my voice number.
First world problems.
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In the options for th GV app I set it to use GV for all outgoing calls. If I have a poor signal or weak WiFi, it causes it to hang on some intermediary screen before the dialer pops up so it is using Internet data for that step. If you can't enable the option, I'd check your cellular data settings.

Oh yeah. Ive got that set up. Been using voice for over a year now. Play just doesn't seem to like it as much.
In a completely unrelated note, this phone has amazing battery life
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Zardos66 said:
Oh yeah. Ive got that set up. Been using voice for over a year now. Play just doesn't seem to like it as much.
In a completely unrelated note, this phone has amazing battery life
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The only issue I have on my PLAY is the error saying that I can't enable voicemail forwarding even though it does enable it and forward just fine (the setting still shows that my carrier is handling VM). Even then, I think it's a problem with AT&T still having something configured wrong from my iPhone plan with VVM. Also, my battery would die in 8 hours of leaving the device locked on the stock AT&T ROM but, luckily, you never had to deal with that.

Got it all figured out.
Rooted the phone and removed a bunch of bloat. Phone is amazing now! I love you XDA.

Ok so Im not trying to change the subject, but does anyone get googles video chat to work without huge lag? I bought my girlfriend a Xperia play right after I got mines & installed video talk (via Video Talk Installer) & also the GTalkEnabler (to enable "Talk" over mobile data) & attempted both video & voice chat. My voice chat worked well over wifi & mobile, but the video chat was almost impossible due to lag on AT&Ts HSPA/Almost kinda 4g & not much better on wifi. With both XPlay's on wifi the video jumped frames and had green or pink pixel boxes & voice was lagged over 5 seconds. This makes the front cam & video chat useless. Whats the deal with this??

Help with Google Voice/wifi calling

OK i know wifi calling built in doesn't work if I upgrade to ICS/JB.
What I'm curious about is there a way to set up GV with sipdroid say that would call my phone on cellular and my sip # on wifi?
I've been searching all morning, and most guides are about VOIP over data ONLY. Not having the seemless switching like the built in wifi app provides.
Curious if there is a way to do this. Otherwise still stuck on GB for now.

Not sure I understand exactly what sipdroid does..
but google voice works over wifi. it will also use your GV number over data as well if you set it up that way.
I tried two other wifi calling apps which work with GV, but they had terrible call quality compared to the GV app.
I tried it for a couple of weeks, but ended up going back go GB because of that and a couple of things I liked in TW roms.

The app you need is called Talkatone...its voip that logs onto your google voice account...syncs with your gv contacts and also allows texting all over wifi or data
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You could also take a look at GrooVeIP....
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Groove IP had terrible call quality when I used it. Sometimes got stuttering and patches of silence (and this was on a 15MB 4-bar wifi connection). And the other person said they got a lot of echo. I tried different settings of echo cancellation, but nothing fixed it.
it might work better for you, but you'll probably need to try a bunch of them out.

Ok
Take a look at Auto Air. It allows communications on either WiFi or cellular. Set up your sip app to work only on WiFi and that might do it for you....
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fix for talking in surfing

For everyone that has forgot or just never new back in 2011 sprint and google worked together to put google voice and sprint together research for more info then Google pushed more into it with hangouts and hangout dailer search for more information with these 3 you can make and receive calls via Internet voip/volte/Voight while still surfing the Web I can confirm this works great but I can also confirm it can be hard to set up Google is your friend here
Ps our note 5 comes with hangouts pretty installed you would only need to download
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.hangoutsdialer
There's no need to have Google voice app you can set everything up from browser for Google voice then go to the hangout app and link the two together

Yeah i figured this out lastnight but even still how in the hell can i use speaker phone on it. I only see the dialer and hangup. Oh and the mute button. Guess this will have to do

serv380 said:
Yeah i figured this out lastnight but even still how in the hell can i use speaker phone on it. I only see the dialer and hangup. Oh and the mute button. Guess this will have to do
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At the top of the dailer there is a symbol the looks like a phone with a few lines on the side of it that is the speaker phone
Here's a picture of it

Wow, thanks dude. That helps a ton!!

Yeah I this was the main reason I was about to leave Sprint for T Mobile. With my new Note 5 I'm getting tomorrow my understanding is the Spark speeds are through the roof compared to Note 4. I use Google Voice anyway. With this fix and the fact I have unlimited everything for under $50 per month; I'll be staying with Sprint. Thanks for sharing!
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This works for outgoing calls not incoming… but hey thx I tried and it works ???

daminux said:
This works for outgoing calls not incoming… but hey thx I tried and it works ???
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It will also work for incoming calls but you have to google how to so it but thank you for trying it does help us i receive and send phone calls with the app if you cannot figure it out receive the call ask him if you can call him right back and then come pick up if you are doing something on the internet

Keep in mind that when you use Google voice for calls you are using data. So if your data signal is crap then good luck with hearing the other person or them hearing you. On top of that good luck with browsing since the call will eat up some of your bandwith.

No luck needed. It works fine. Even with low signal of data, calls work fine. I'm not watching a movie on netflix while on a call. Just waiting for an important email, checking the web quickly for directions; quick glance browsing. No need for all that bandwidth.
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uknow said:
At the top of the dailer there is a symbol the looks like a phone with a few lines on the side of it that is the speaker phone
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This is a Steve Balmer decision to obscure the speaker phone.
Every time a software company does something so weird and stupid, I just KNOW that they have to have had Steve Balmer's help on it.
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