Radio's and HBOOT - Whats the point? - HTC Desire S

Hi All,
playing with custom ROM's and flashing and learning it all slowly.
See plenty of posts about different Radio versions and HBOOT's but cant really see anything explaining the point of them?
What would I gain by changing my radio version or hboot version?
Thanks

Hboot or more over "Bootloader".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Glossary#Bootloader
Radio.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Glossary#Radio
Upgrading your radio may improve your mobiles signal, WiFi, and Bluetooth. Simply, your phone may be able to hold a more stable connection to towers by contacting them more often, WiFi may not drain as much power when in use, while also having a stronger reception. Each radio just contains minor improvements that the engineers at HTC have been able to tweak to ensure your device performs more efficiently.

Just upgraded my Radio to the latest version after reading that.
Doesn't sound like I'd gain much from a bootloader upgrade so not going to bother with that one
Cheers!

nnila said:
Just upgraded my Radio to the latest version after reading that.
Doesn't sound like I'd gain much from a bootloader upgrade so not going to bother with that one
Cheers!
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Good call, it's worth knowing that even though radio upgrades can be benefitical to signal reception and battery life (of cause they could also have exactly the opposite effect) if they go wrong they can brick your device!
So it's always worth checking the m5dsum for any files that you download once they're on your device just before you flash them to ensure that no file corruption has occurred during file transfers.
It's not worth upgrading HBOOT to the 2.xx.xxxx until the current customs ROMS are written to take specific advantage of it.

ben_pyett said:
It's not worth upgrading HBOOT to the 2.xx.xxxx until the current customs ROMS are written to take specific advantage of it.
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I have been thinking about this for awhile, I've got to do some research but I'm not sure but I've got a feeling the newer hboot may be sort of bonus for the more recent radios, I won't explain why because all the thoughts I have are hypothetical, but it has to do with the phone communicating to the radio. As I was actually able to "lock" my radio through a ROM the other night, which resulted in a lot of thinking on a solution to the problem ;-).
Problem was solved in the end, but I doubt anyone else will ever come across this problem.

zeekiz said:
OFF TOPICI have been thinking about this for awhile, I've got to do some research but I'm not sure but I've got a feeling the newer hboot may be sort of bonus for the more recent radios, I won't explain why because all the thoughts I have are hypothetical, but it has to do with the phone communicating to the radio. As I was actually able to "lock" my radio through a ROM the other night, which resulted in a lot of thinking on a solution to the problem ;-).
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OFF TOPIC response, Hmmm, very curious......

ben_pyett said:
OFF TOPIC response, Hmmm, very curious......
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I've got to do some testing .. which unfortunately is rather time consuming, so I'll probably be able to post some results and more information next week . Chances are though its a one off thing that will never happen again ;-).

Can you please also explain how to check the md5sum for any file / ROM ,etc ?
Sorry for the noob question ...
Thank you in advance !
ben_pyett said:
Good call, it's worth knowing that even though radio upgrades can be benefitical to signal reception and battery life (of cause they could also have exactly the opposite effect) if they go wrong they can brick your device!
So it's always worth checking the m5dsum for any files that you download once they're on your device just before you flash them to ensure that no file corruption has occurred during file transfers.
It's not worth upgrading HBOOT to the 2.xx.xxxx until the current customs ROMS are written to take specific advantage of it.
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Tapur007 said:
Can you please also explain how to check the md5sum for any file / ROM ,etc ?
Sorry for the noob question ...
Thank you in advance !
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Download a md5 checker or go into 4ext recovery, select option for md5 generator or something like that

First off, think how to help yourself google is our friend.
most free file manager apps (astro etc) on your device should show the m5dsum of files on the device under properties
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium

chill dude .. it's just that i m new to all this .. & since most of the ROM thread's don't allow posting for users with less than 10 posts ... these are the threads where i can clarify lil doubts I have , especially from lots of senior members here!
If google is the answer to all solutions , the OP could have also searched the same thing on google / xda-forums ...
Thank u for the answer anyways ...
ben_pyett said:
First off, think how to help yourself google is our friend.
most free file manager apps (astro etc) on your device should show the m5dsum of files on the device under properties
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
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Tapur007 said:
chill dude .. it's just that i m new to all this .. & since most of the ROM thread's don't allow posting for users with less than 10 posts ... these are the threads where i can clarify lil doubts I have , especially from lots of senior members here!
If google is the answer to all solutions , the OP could have also searched the same thing on google / xda-forums ...
Thank u for the answer anyways ...
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The Op created a thread for a specific question that was answered by several people including me.
You high jacked the thread and asked off topic questions which I also answered to a point, where I felt that google search would assist you. I also provided you with answer to your final question so really no need for the chill line.
If you have any question no matter how trivial or small don't worry about opening a new thread in the Q/A section of this forum add that is what it is designed for, you then have every right to go in any direction and ask any Queston you need.
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium

Hi-jacked , Off Topic ?
I thought my question was in continuation to the discussion of flashing a hboot / radio .... especially after the precautions mentioned by you on checking md5.
ben_pyett said:
Good call, it's worth knowing that even though radio upgrades can be benefitical to signal reception and battery life (of cause they could also have exactly the opposite effect) if they go wrong they can brick your device!
So it's always worth checking the m5dsum for any files that you download once they're on your device just before you flash them to ensure that no file corruption has occurred during file transfers.
It's not worth upgrading HBOOT to the 2.xx.xxxx until the current customs ROMS are written to take specific advantage of it.
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Tapur007 said:
Hi-jacked , Off Topic ?
I thought my question was in continuation to the discussion of flashing a hboot / radio .... especially after the precautions mentioned by you on checking md5.
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I was just saying sometimes think about helping yourself first
perhaps off topic was slightly off the mark, Peace (end of)

ben_pyett said:
I was just saying sometimes think about helping yourself first
perhaps off topic was slightly off the mark, Peace (end of)
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haha I love lmgtfy, its a really smooth way to reference how useful google is ;-).

Related

Any HTC Stock 6.1 ROMs in nbh form without radio out there?

Been trying to get used to flashing from SD card but can't seem to find a Stock ROM that is suitable. They all seem to come as exe files. I found a good list of reconstructed 6.0 ROMs but can't find any 6.1 ones.
Does this mean everyone flashes to Stock via USB first? Or am I missing something ?
I would like to know this too!
I pulled the nbh from the exe on at&ts website but when I tried flashing from my sd card it only changed my spl and radio back to stock but not the rom.
try to unrar .exe file with winrar
Take this, Shipped 6.1 ROm, no Radio, no SPL
http://www.4shared.com/file/105398668/839af0c2/HTC_WWE_61_Shipped.html
Open and get the RUU file to your SDCard
Pisca said:
Take this, Shipped 6.1 ROm, no Radio, no SPL
http://www.4shared.com/file/105398668/839af0c2/HTC_WWE_61_Shipped.html
Open and get the RUU file to your SDCard
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Thanks. Look like what I was after. Will give it a try next time .
I think almost all cooks have their own stripped 6.1 ROMs. I have one in my thread, and I think zelendel posted one in TPC's thread.
I posted these before.. but here it is again.
Below is the same is the one linked on the other post above. I just named it with correct version number.
Kaiser HTC ASIA HK WWE 3 34 721 2 no radio
RUU Kaiser CINGULAR WWE 3 57 502 2 no radio
f1ip said:
I posted these before.. but here it is again.
Below is the same is the one linked on the other post above. I just named it with correct version number.
Kaiser HTC ASIA HK WWE 3 34 721 2 no radio
RUU Kaiser CINGULAR WWE 3 57 502 2 no radio
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Thanks for those . Any particular difference between the two versions? Is the Cingular one onlt for AT&T maybe? I have a UK Orange Tytnii.
Just thought maybe I shouldn't be keeping recommended radio when I reflash ROM? Is it best to reflash original radio first too or doesn't it make any difference?
ai6908 said:
I think almost all cooks have their own stripped 6.1 ROMs. I have one in my thread, and I think zelendel posted one in TPC's thread.
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Damned if I can see anything in your ROM thread or in TPC's lol. I've also tried every search term I can think of.
All I can think is people who bother to do the recommeneded flashing back to stock must be using usb.
Anyways I have a couple now so next time here goes .........
Thank you.
Restorer said:
Damned if I can see anything in your ROM thread or in TPC's lol. I've also tried every search term I can think of.
All I can think is people who bother to do the recommeneded flashing back to stock must be using usb.
Anyways I have a couple now so next time here goes .........
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Seriously! You must be joking right?
ai6908 said:
Seriously! You must be joking right?
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Exactly what i was thinking especially as all info needed on first page of threadz to be honest would be better if people didn't get answered who are far too lazy to read and then impolite in the same thread. "that's how i read it anyway"
I know things will never change just airing my point of view.
Please peeps find the answers, post new threads when you have run out of possibilitys & feel that sense of achievement when you have worked out your own issue
ai6908 said:
Seriously! You must be joking right?
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No I'm not. Maybe I am going blind but all I see is your link to the AT&T stripped rom but I'm looking for HTC - as I said I've got a UK Orange TytnII which from what I've read says it should be flashed with HTC stock. Or maybe you are saying it doesn't matter which stock rom? And there is definitely no mention of stripped rom on TCP's page - I know that by heart now lol.
Anyway I have 2 now so I will have a go next time. Thanks again.
stylez said:
Exactly what i was thinking especially as all info needed on first page of threadz to be honest would be better if people didn't get answered who are far too lazy to read and then impolite in the same thread. "that's how i read it anyway"
I know things will never change just airing my point of view.
Please peeps find the answers, post new threads when you have run out of possibilitys & feel that sense of achievement when you have worked out your own issue
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How dare you jump in here with that attack. I really object to this. Where have I been impolite? Have you read my OP?
For the record I not only read the instructions. I devour them! Then I learnt them parrot fashion before I began. I have been a lurker round here for years but only started flashing last week. And for the last several weeks I have been trawling through literally thousands of posts to be sure of getting it right.
Now please show me on those instruction pages where it tells you how you can find a stock HTC ROM without radio that can be flashed from an SD card!
ai6908 kindly referred me to his page where there is only a link to a stripped AT&T stock rom and to TCP's page where there is no mention either. I was also asking if it was necessary to reflash the same radio every time as none of the instructions mention if you have the radio you need already. Still not had an answer on this so maybe it's just a stupid question - just wish I knew the answer lol.
Thankfully more helpful souls than you have provided me with the file I need. Thanks again F1ip and Pisca.
Some of you people on here can be arrogant so and so's. I belong to many forums and have never come across anything like it. Look at all the space you wasted flaming me and now me having to defend myself! No wonder the kids on here post the way they do if this is the example they get set by senior members. I would wager well over half the posts on this forum are pointless flaming. And just ask yourself how many questions are really new and have not already been answered by someone somewhere here. And look how much space would have been saved if you hadn't butted in here on your high horse without reading my question properly .
Rant over.
Restorer said:
No I'm not. Maybe I am going blind but all I see is your link to the AT&T stripped rom but I'm looking for HTC - as I said I've got a UK Orange TytnII which from what I've read says it should be flashed with HTC stock. Or maybe you are saying it doesn't matter which stock rom? And there is definitely no mention of stripped rom on TCP's page - I know that by heart now lol.
Anyway I have 2 now so I will have a go next time. Thanks again.
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Stock ROM is the same, it doesnt matter much for it being HTC or AT&T. Base ROM is the same on both of them.
Actually in my opinion, you dont even need to flash to stock ROM. I never flash stock ROM when I flash, and I flash about 10 times a day sometimes.
Sometimes occational hard reset might help. So in my opinion, just flash to any ROM, and do a hard reset after flash and when it prompts for screen alignment. That should solve all your flash issues.
ai6908 said:
Stock ROM is the same, it doesnt matter much for it being HTC or AT&T. Base ROM is the same on both of them.
Actually in my opinion, you dont even need to flash to stock ROM. I never flash stock ROM when I flash, and I flash about 10 times a day sometimes.
Sometimes occational hard reset might help. So in my opinion, just flash to any ROM, and do a hard reset after flash and when it prompts for screen alignment. That should solve all your flash issues.
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Interesting, thanks. Certainly would save time not having to go through the whole rigmarole every time. That's one of the main reasons I was asking about the cut-down roms. As least I wouldn't have to keep doing the radio as well. Now whether with my lack of experience I should be going against what the 6.5 chefs seem to all be advising ....... .
On the other hand I may never flash again since TCP's latest seems to tick all my boxes. But having summoned up the courage to get going in the first place and it opens up a whole new lease of life for your phone, you kinda get a bit hooked. So maybe when I find one where MotoHome runs fast and smooth on my old Kaiser ........
Restorer said:
How dare you jump in here with that attack. I really object to this. Where have I been impolite? Have you read my OP?
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Basically if you read your last post before mine sounds like you are saying you cannot find anything in the threadz you describe.... bada bing bada bong no need to get so deffensive ah and .exe's can be uncompressed so as to get the .nbh for future reference....
Sorry for my response maybe i'm just gettin fed up with where is? questions when it can be found easily i'm sure that if you had of PM'd anyone they would have provided the answer.
My non rant over "so not everything is dirrected @ single poster" my applogies.
Just glad you sorted and found the answer
stylez said:
Basically if you read your last post before mine sounds like you are saying you cannot find anything in the threadz you describe.... bada bing bada bong no need to get so deffensive ah and .exe's can be uncompressed so as to get the .nbh for future reference....
Sorry for my response maybe i'm just gettin fed up with where is? questions when it can be found easily i'm sure that if you had of PM'd anyone they would have provided the answer.
My non rant over "so not everything is dirrected @ single poster" my applogies.
Just glad you sorted and found the answer
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Apologies accepted . As you might be abe able to tell, the flaming that goes on verywhere around here really gets to me and you certainly hit a nerve. I sometimes wonder if I've wandered onto some Fight Club site by mistake lol .
Yes I do know the exe files can be uncompressed but the radio is still in the nbh file - and one guy who tried using the nbz file on its own said it flashed the radio part ok but not the rom itself .
What I will do is delve a little more into what makes up the unzipped nbh file. Might be a good way to start getting into this kitchen stuff .

[FAQ][READ THIS] POLL IS UPDATED! come and vote again ;)

Hi all! i wanted to start a FAQ thread because im sick of seeing/reading threads like "what is best custom ROM? please help", "need OC help, please help!" and other very useless threads. i come acrcoss these kind of threads almost every day :/ thats why i want to make this thread to minimize the amount of useless threads
red = question color
green = answer color
@please make this thread sticky so it will always remain at the top
FAQ
1.) what ROM is best/stable/battery saver/fastest?
this is the MOST asked question of all time and short answer is: test every available ROM! everybody has their opinion and it is just stupid to make this kind of thread because most likely it is going to end up like this:
user24 says: InDroid is the best use that!
user25 says: lestatious is the best use that!
user26 says: no use kyrillos, its the best!
so DONT post threads like that!
2.) best filesystems to use?
most of the people say its:
stl6 ext4
stl7 ext4
stl8 ext2
3.) what is the best stock ROM?
almost everybody recommends JPM
4.) is there going to be official 2.3?
most likely NO!
5.) im from another SG forum and id like to flash SG3 ROM, can i do it? we have very similar specs
you can do it but it wont work!
6.) OMG, help me, kies wont recognize my phone and i cant revert back to official firmware!
Kies wont recognize your phone if its rooted, if you have flashed a custom ROM or if you have flashed unofficial samsung ROM!, so you need to find out what is the official firmware in your country then find that firmware on www.samfirmware.com and flash it via odin
7.) is it dangerous to flash a custom ROM?
Most likely no but remember you are flashing on your own and the risks are still there no matter what
8.) How to root android 2.2 FROYO?
use super1clickRoot, z4root wont work on 2.2!
9.) how do i know if my phone is hard bricked?
you CANT enter recovery, download (using 3 button (power+vol down+home button)) or boot the phone
10.) my phone CAN enter download mode but cant boot, is it soft brick?
yes it is! just flash another ROM and everything should be ok
ill add more FAQ´s later but now i got other things to do oh and also you can suggest different kind of questions and answers you want me to add
also tell me what you think of this thread
ill add links here
- www.samfirmware.com/WEBPROTECT-i5800.htm for official and un official firmwares
- http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i5800_galaxy_3-3395.php full SG3 specs
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another reservation
Nice thread. . But even then, many people won t see this thread and still ask same stupid questions
dhirend_6d said:
Nice thread. . But even then, many people won t see this thread and still ask same stupid questions
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then i reply to that thread with CAPS on and say: !READ FAQ BEFORE POSTING! and if they are blind and cant read my text ill PM mod to delete it
4.) is there going to be official 2.3?
most likely NO!
samsung customer service germany told me yes lol
but is still to be confirmed by other users ^^
anyway I don't understand why people get so mad because of such threads, if you hate them, just ignore them. no one forces you to read or even answer
I don't understand why people can't just use the search option as well. as they would geht their answer faster.
but hey, you're on the internet, not everyone's as smart as you. there are stupid users everywhere
sharukins said:
4.) is there going to be official 2.3?
most likely NO!
samsung customer service germany told me yes lol
but is still to be confirmed by other users ^^
anyway I don't understand why people get so mad because of such threads, if you hate them, just ignore them. no one forces you to read or even answer
I don't understand why people can't just use the search option as well. as they would geht their answer faster.
but hey, you're on the internet, not everyone's as smart as you. there are stupid users everywhere
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when i get confirmation that we will have 2.3 i will update it but now its most likely a no also im not mad im just stunned because there are mny threads like this and that but nobody even cares to search for them and then they spam the forum... this SHOULD decrease haree's job on this forum, he has many, many other forums that he is in charge and with this thread i hope that his job will become easier and the forums will be cleaner
and because there are some lazy guys who cant/wont use the search tool this will most likely answer thse answers
The search tool is useless, if you get even a work wrong you have to wait 30secs and search again which is kinda pretty lame. So this thread is useful, thanks jazux.
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dilzo said:
The search tool is useless, if you get even a work wrong you have to wait 30secs and search again which is kinda pretty lame. So this thread is useful, thanks jazux.
Sent from my GT-I5800 using XDA App
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thanks i have PM'd haree to make this sticky
Start a poll let users decide the best rom(though there is no best rom, its just + and - from each other)
rudolf895 said:
Start a poll let users decide the best rom(though there is no best rom, its just + and - from each other)
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in this thread?
jazux said:
in this thread?
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yeah here of course..
This thread is worth a sticky.
rudolf895 said:
yeah here of course..
This thread is worth a sticky.
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the only problem is, if new rom's come, then it is not possible to update the poll
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the only problem is, if new rom's come, then it is not possible to update the poll
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true but now i have created poll (will make it public in a minute ) and it has 29 ROMs and 29 options... i looked trough every page on dev section and listed every ROM that is not closed/dead and with dl link available
dharamg3 said:
the only problem is, if new rom's come, then it is not possible to update the poll
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not all new roms last long you know..
I'm sure after the rom tutorial was out many new roms came up but lasted for less time..(no specific names please!)
So it wont matter much..
But if a new rom was really awesome and worth the entry in the poll haree could add a option(maybe) or could restart the poll with new option(definitely, this can be done by a mod)
Edit: Nice,jazux you looked for 29! Roms.
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Edit: Nice,jazux you looked for 29! Roms.
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yep it took some time but why not? now hopefully we dont need to see any more "what is best custom ROM?" threads
I like all the custom roms
custom rom's are what makes our phone better enough to use
dharamg3 said:
I like all the custom roms
custom rom's are what makes our phone better enough to use
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yes but what do you use and like the most?
EDIT: i see that you voted a lot of ROMs
jazux said:
yes but what do you use and like the most?
EDIT: i see that you voted a lot of ROMs
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I voted most of the active custom ROM's
my question is "why MARCELLUSBE is still not a recognized developer"...now i know he's too humble and says all these LABELS doesn't bother him...but a little more recognition is necessary..I'm just sayin

[Q] HTC Desire S Wifi Drop Problem

Hi, may i ask you what is the solution for wifi connection dropping too easily/often problem on HTC desire S ?
I'm newby so could you please tell which rom to load or the utility to use?
djdigy5 said:
Hi, may i ask you what is the solution for wifi connection dropping too easily/often problem on HTC desire S ?
I'm newby so could you please tell which rom to load or the utility to use?
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Two solutions:
1) Don't hold the phone in landscape as problem is much worse when held like this..
2) Achieve S-OFF and install a custom ROM which should have a software fix.
If you need to know what S-OFF then you probably are S-ON. To see how to get S-OFF then use search within forum and google.
Look at other posts before creating a new thread......http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036357
i did a research on s-off but could'nt find any topic to show how to s-off the HTC Desire S.
Any resolution for that?
djdigy5 said:
i did a research on s-off but could'nt find any topic to show how to s-off the HTC Desire S.
Any resolution for that?
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There are two routes....
1) XTC Clip
this route invalidates your warranty...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076937&highlight=xtc
2) Software only method.....Although not released yet.....for our Device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136276
ben_pyett said:
There are two routes....
1) XTC Clip
this route invalidates your warranty...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076937&highlight=xtc
2) Software only method.....Although not released yet.....for our Device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136276
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Ah thank you so much.. Any clue when the software will be released? it worth to wait for the software thing right?
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Ah thank you so much.. Any clue when the software will be released? it worth to wait for the software thing right?
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No idea, I'm afraid. I'd also recommend that you don't ask that question in the thread as it will simply annoy the developers who are working on the solution as fast as they can.
It has been shown to work on the Desire S already, but isn't yet released. It's released for other devices which shows that its not vapour ware and is worth waiting for.
and yes I'd suggest waiting a fortnight to a month at least....before contemplating XTC
If I've provided you with assistance or help then please hit the THANKS button!
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No idea, I'm afraid. I'd also recommend that you don't ask that question in the thread as it will simply annoy the developers who are working on the solution as fast as they can.
It has been shown to work on the Desire S already, but isn't yet released. It's released for other devices which shows that its not vapour ware and is worth waiting for.
and yes I'd suggest waiting a fortnight to a month at least....before contemplating XTC
If I've provided you with assistance or help then please hit the THANKS button!
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Got it. is there any walktrough or a thread for noobs like me to see the whole process of installing a mod (ex: SAGA LBC MOD v0.5.2)
all i've learned till now is that i have to make the desire-S s-off and so?
what are the future steps to take? i'm very confused with rooting, radio images,clockworkmod recovery etc... What are all these stuff? ((
Thank you for your patience.
djdigy5 said:
Got it. is there any walktrough or a thread for noobs like me to see the whole process of installing a mod (ex: SAGA LBC MOD v0.5.2)
all i've learned till now is that i have to make the desire-S s-off and so?
what are the future steps to take? i'm very confused with rooting, radio images,clockworkmod recovery etc... What are all these stuff? ((
Thank you for your patience.
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there isn't one thread but dozens
Start with reading all the sticky threads in the android development section
Google clock work mod there are some good guides available
You shouldn't be in such a hurry, as you're weeks to wait until you're soff and therefore loads of time to research and read, this forum is a great place to start
This is my first android phone so we're all learning here
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I need professional help please

Dear professionals,
I'm having a problem and I really need your help.
I have bought the "HTC Desire S" off ebay and it came out to be Orange locked, I have unlocked it successfully however it still has Orange ROM and all the useless Orange apps, can someone please tell me how to remove it and install a regular official ROM as they r very annoying and the ROM has no updates..
I appreciate your help
thank you very much in advance
yahyoohy said:
Dear professionals,
I'm having a problem and I really need your help.
I have bought the "HTC Desire S" off ebay and it came out to be Orange locked, I have unlocked it successfully however it still has Orange ROM and all the useless Orange apps, can someone please tell me how to remove it and install a regular official ROM as they r very annoying and the ROM has no updates..
I appreciate your help
thank you very much in advance
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THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPMENT THREAD.
In answer to your question, open your eye's and read.....there are sticky's in the forum that have all the answers....make an effort!
I don't know how you managed to post in this area with only 4 posts...anyway...forum fail!
EDIT: Have requested that mod move thread
ben_pyett said:
I don't know how you managed to post in this area with only 4 posts...anyway...forum fail!
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you can do that using the mobile app i guess.
ben_pyett said:
THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPMENT THREAD.
In answer to your question, open your eye's and read.....there are sticky's in the forum that have all the answers....make an effort!
I don't know how you managed to post in this area with only 4 posts...anyway...forum fail!
EDIT: Have requested that mod move thread
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take it easy, u might hurt ur self
ok its not quite in the right place, but no need to bite his head off.
anyway, in answer to your question, the way i removed the branding from my vodafone DS was this
http://revolutionary.io/ download this tool and follow its instructions, this will root your phone and give you a recovery tool that will allow you to flash a new ROM onto your phone.
With the phone rooted, you will be able to back up your data using an app from the market. Titanium Backup is the usual favorite.
EDIT : may be wrong about it providing root, I personally skipped the backup step as I had no data to lose, but if that is the case there are guides in the forums for obtaining root access
next look through this forum to find a ROM that suits your needs, from the sound of things you want the stock one, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029 should suit you.
download the zip file and transfer it to your SD card.
next you need to reboot into your recovery mode by turning the phone off, then hold the vol down button and power button together and selecting recovery from the menu
finally use the volume buttons to select install zip from SD card, and point it at your downloaded rom. it may take a few mins so allow it to finish then select reboot phone.
again this first boot may take a little time, but once its up you should have a debranded ROM as if you had just bought the phone new.
Add the details for your google account and redownload your backup app so you can restore your data and you are good to go
thank you very much for your help,
I shall give it a try,
by the way, will be able to install official updates on it, or will I have to stick with custom ROMs for ever?
thanks again
yahyoohy said:
thank you very much for your help,
I shall give it a try,
by the way, will be able to install official updates on it, or will I have to stick with custom ROMs for ever?
thanks again
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Nooo, not forever. Just until you get a new device
But seriously: Custom roms don't work with official updates. The trick is that most of the custom rom developers provide their own flashable updates for their roms. The difference is in the way you perform the update. There are even fairly developed custom roms, like MIUI, which have their own over-the-air updates (actually more often than official updates are coming.)
EDIT: In fact, you can switch back to a stock rom anytime and get the official updates back.
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ben_pyett said:
THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPMENT THREAD.
In answer to your question, open your eye's and read.....there are sticky's in the forum that have all the answers....make an effort!
I don't know how you managed to post in this area with only 4 posts...anyway...forum fail!
EDIT: Have requested that mod move thread
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Hi Ben, had a bad day perhaps?
Hi Ben, had a bad day perhaps?
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lol, possibly....hello,
although a lot of effort had been put into creating a lot of resources which are very user friendly, so it's quiet frustrating when they aren't even looked at.
Plus development is for just that, which is why the moderator moved the thread.
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
ben_pyett said:
lol, possibly....hello,
although a lot of effort had been put into creating a lot of resources which are very user friendly, so it's quiet frustrating when they aren't even looked at.
Plus development is for just that, which is why the moderator moved the thread.
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
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Hi man,
I really appreciate what guys u r doing here, its just I’m a newB here, this is my first android phone, all I want someone to direct me where to find the info I need … no need for the attitude.
Keep it up guys
mimirom said:
Nooo, not forever. Just until you get a new device
But seriously: Custom roms don't work with official updates. The trick is that most of the custom rom developers provide their own flashable updates for their roms. The difference is in the way you perform the update. There are even fairly developed custom roms, like MIUI, which have their own over-the-air updates (actually more often than official updates are coming.)
EDIT: In fact, you can switch back to a stock rom anytime and get the official updates back.
Thanks for the info mimirom
OK, I understand... but how do I get the official stock rom?, and by stock that means it has no Orange apps at all right ?
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Once unlocked, i.e. rooted, you can use titanium backup or a root file explorer to uninstall the apps you don't need from the rom you are running atm.
(@ben - what was it you said to me th other day? "no need to sound off" ... hm)
Sent from my HTC Desire S
yahyoohy said:
Thanks for the info mimirom
OK, I understand... but how do I get the official stock rom?, and by stock that means it has no Orange apps at all right ?
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Well, again: read around the forum a little, please. There is a sticky thread right on the top of the development section, called ROMS/RECOVERY/ROOT etc. It's a must read for newcomers. Very useful thread. There you find a link to a collection of stock roms. These are distributed as .exe files, so you can run them in windows and a simple-to-use installer will pop up and help you with pushing the stock rom to your phone. It is advisable that you double check that you are flashing the rom you really want. Someone here will help you to choose the right one.
EDIT: By the way in the general section (where we are now with this thread) there is also a very useful sticky. It's called Guide for Newcomers to Android. Seriously, it's a good read, given that you own an Android phone...
mimirom said:
Well, again: read around the forum a little, please. There is a sticky thread right on the top of the development section, called ROMS/RECOVERY/ROOT etc. It's a must read for newcomers. Very useful thread. There you find a link to a collection of stock roms. These are distributed as .exe files, so you can run them in windows and a simple-to-use installer will pop up and help you with pushing the stock rom to your phone. It is advisable that you double check that you are flashing the rom you really want. Someone here will help you to choose the right one.
EDIT: By the way in the general section (where we are now with this thread) there is also a very useful sticky. It's called Guide for Newcomers to Android. Seriously, it's a good read, given that you own an Android phone...
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OK man, I will do that, thanks for the tips
Thanks chris5s, Ill definitely give it a shot.
This tool would help to get rid of the annoying Orange splash screen, and other useless apps could be removed as stated before.
Of course, best way is to install generic HTC European rom or custom rom of your choice.
Aforementioned tool would also help install roms, radios, etc, of your choice.
Good luck
Peace
Edit: sorry, Android flasher won't help install roms, but will help with installing custom recovery - Ext4 or Clockwork Mod - essential in s-off/rooted flashing.

[Q] Updating my new Desire S

Hello,
First of all, thanks for this great forum, i'm new to android and being here is really helpful.
I've read some of the guides posted, still i'd like to have some tips and infos.
I'm from Italy and my Desire S is still working on Gingerbread (!). I would like to update the firmware, if not to Jelly Bean (since the custom one is still beta, but advise me here), at least to ICS, but i don't know the routine to follow (ROOT, then Flash one of the custom ROMS? Being in S-Off mode is needed i guess). Another thing i don't get is flashing radios..
Help would be really appreciated, THANKS.
There is nothing to tell you that you can't find by reading the stickies and understanding what to do.
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There is nothing to tell you that you can't find by reading the stickies and understanding what to do.
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i know, im asking just because im new and not secure of the routine to follow. thanks anyway
el_d4rio said:
Hello,
First of all, thanks for this great forum, i'm new to android and being here is really helpful.
I've read some of the guides posted, still i'd like to have some tips and infos.
I'm from Italy and my Desire S is still working on Gingerbread (!). I would like to update the firmware, if not to Jelly Bean (since the custom one is still beta, but advise me here), at least to ICS, but i don't know the routine to follow (ROOT, then Flash one of the custom ROMS? Being in S-Off mode is needed i guess). Another thing i don't get is flashing radios..
Help would be really appreciated, THANKS.
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If you haven't messed with your phone, i.e. rooted it, flashed any fancy thirty party rom, etc, and the phone is running official HTC ROM and in the exact same state as you bought it, I'd suggest OTA and upgrade to official ICS since you are new to android. Go to setting - about phone then update from there.
If you'd like to try other ROMs then there's plenty guide in this forum already.
Imo official 4.0.4 is a bad idea.
1) It has bugs
2) hboot 2.02 cannot be downgraded without htcdev
Sent from my HTC Desire S
amidabuddha said:
Imo official 4.0.4 is a bad idea.
1) It has bugs
2) hboot 2.02 cannot be downgraded without htcdev
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My Desire S is new and "untouched". For what i had got, the official htc release is to be installed manually and has some issues, so I had thought a custom and more recent ROM would have been better.
el_d4rio said:
My Desire S is new and "untouched". For what i had got, the official htc release is to be installed manually and has some issues, so I had thought a custom and more recent ROM would have been better.
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Then use revolutionary (S-OFF) not unlock via htcdev.com, 4ext recovery and you are good to go
If you are on Sense 3 you will have to downgrade in order to use Revolutionary.io
And of course I concider the ROM in my signature as the best to date
amidabuddha said:
Then use revolutionary (S-OFF) not unlock via htcdev.com, 4ext recovery and you are good to go
If you are on Sense 3 you will have to downgrade in order to use Revolutionary.io
And of course I concider the ROM in my signature as the best to date
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Thanks, after revolutionary (i'm on sense 2) rooting? Is yours a JB ROM? Anyway, checking on updates from the phone, i got a client FOTA Update. Should i do it?
el_d4rio said:
Thanks, after revolutionary (i'm on sense 2) rooting? Is yours a JB ROM? Anyway, checking on updates from the phone, i got a client FOTA Update. Should i do it?
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If you are going custom better not use OTA
Revolutionary will install custom recovery so the next thing will be a backup of your stock ROM and installing the Rom.zip from the sdcard via the recovery. No rooting, because all custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
My ROM is ICS, there is no complete stable JB yet but once you have s-off you can try them all within minutes. And do not forget to sync/backup your data (contacts, etc) to Google or with some app from the Play Store. And read some guides before starting anything. I am just giving you directions not a tutorial
Sent from my HTC Desire S
amidabuddha said:
If you are going custom better not use OTA
Revolutionary will install custom recovery so the next thing will be a backup of your stock ROM and installing the Rom.zip from the sdcard via the recovery. No rooting, because all custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
My ROM is ICS, there is no complete stable JB yet but once you have s-off you can try them all within minutes. And do not forget to sync/backup your data (contacts, etc) to Google or with some app from the Play Store. And read some guides before starting anything. I am just giving you directions not a tutorial
Sent from my HTC Desire S
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So why do you "root"? Just to unlock the phone without touching the FW?
Going custom i guess it's the only way, because htc is not going to update anymore, so better learn how to.
Anyway THANKS A LOT, it's more clear now
el_d4rio said:
so why do you "root"? Just to unlock the phone without touching the FW?
Anyway THANKS A LOT, it's more clear now
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Yes you can root your current software (the stock one) if you need just root for an app or something specific without changing the software.
But going custom means to run Android and Sense version which you will never have officially. And they all come pre-rooted
Sent from my HTC Desire S
One last thing amida... What's the difference between the various Sense versions? Just the theme? Will it be updated along with the installation of a custom ROM?
THANKS AGAIN
el_d4rio said:
One last thing amida... What's the difference between the various Sense versions? Just the theme? Will it be updated along with the installation of a custom ROM?
THANKS AGAIN
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They have different versions, because they are ported from different devices and there are difference between them. Not only visual but also performance.
More info about each ROM you will find in the first post of its thread.
Sent from my HTC Desire S
hello amida, i'm starting to update now... so im gonna do: s-off, recovery, 4ext choosing one of the customs. Which step should i do an image of my stock ROM in (so i can go back if needed) and how? Can you also recommend me an application for my datas backup?
THANKS
el_d4rio said:
hello amida, i'm starting to update now... so im gonna do: s-off, recovery, 4ext choosing one of the customs. Which step should i do an image of my stock ROM in (so i can go back if needed) and how? Can you also recommend me an application for my datas backup?
THANKS
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The best app for applications and data backup is titanium backup. It also allows you to make a flashable update zip you can flash after installing a new rom
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
jugg1es said:
The best app for applications and data backup is titanium backup. It also allows you to make a flashable update zip you can flash after installing a new rom
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
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Ok, and for saving an image of my stock ROM, just in case i need to go back?
Nandroid backup is a part of the recovery and not an app.
Start reading instead of asking, please. The procedure is covered a million times in a million places.
To the answering guys, (almost) off-topic:
I have a riddle for you, or actually, a somewhat sad observation to share and see your opinions. Since this thread is one of the examples for what I'm going to talk about, and it's useless anyway, I won't feel any remorse diverting it.
I've seen several threads during the last couple of weeks where a random noob got the best out of one of the knowledgeable members of the community - in this and other forums - and they helped him instead of sending him to read stuff that he was supposed to be reading to know the answer.
In absolutely all of those threads, noob questions continued and deteriorated to the most basic ones. There wasn't even one thread where the noob wouldn't continue with flood of basic FAQ-sort of questions.
I've wrote in a couple of them more or less what I wrote here - an unpleasant message to stop the flood of baby questions.
All of the noobs were offended.
All of the noobs actually searched and found their answer after that message, and stopped the flood (with a message that here, they were so great they actually found everything themselves).
It's kinda sad, don't you think? Quite a few times bad treatment seems the most efficient way to achieve the best results... Guess there's no miraculous other way I'm missing, or maybe there is?
(P.S. I'm also moderating a local motorcyclists forum, and keeping the same harsh line in technical sub-forum. Works 100% for >5 years already. But sometimes it gets you wondering about human nature...)
Jack_R1 said:
Nandroid backup is a part of the recovery and not an app.
Start reading instead of asking, please. The procedure is covered a million times in a million places.
To the answering guys, (almost) off-topic:
I have a riddle for you, or actually, a somewhat sad observation to share and see your opinions. Since this thread is one of the examples for what I'm going to talk about, and it's useless anyway, I won't feel any remorse diverting it.
I've seen several threads during the last couple of weeks where a random noob got the best out of one of the knowledgeable members of the community - in this and other forums - and they helped him instead of sending him to read stuff that he was supposed to be reading to know the answer.
In absolutely all of those threads, noob questions continued and deteriorated to the most basic ones. There wasn't even one thread where the noob wouldn't continue with flood of basic FAQ-sort of questions.
I've wrote in a couple of them more or less what I wrote here - an unpleasant message to stop the flood of baby questions.
All of the noobs were offended.
All of the noobs actually searched and found their answer after that message, and stopped the flood (with a message that here, they were so great they actually found everything themselves).
It's kinda sad, don't you think? Quite a few times bad treatment seems the most efficient way to achieve the best results... Guess there's no miraculous other way I'm missing, or maybe there is?
(P.S. I'm also moderating a local motorcyclists forum, and keeping the same harsh line in technical sub-forum. Works 100% for >5 years already. But sometimes it gets you wondering about human nature...)
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don't worry i'm not offended... i read most of the stuff and guides out here, not taking just a minute to post the thread and having everyhting done by someone else.. i just needed directions! Anyway, if you don't want this kinda stuff in the forum, just put it in the registration form, newbies not accepted, and the prolem is solved
There is another thing that's floating around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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