hello,
found this issue for a different phone but not the sensation. i just flashed to the Android Revolution HD™ 3.6.2 XE rom and it doesnt show 4G anymore but an H. am i still getting 4G just with an H icon or am i getting less?
Yes, h is T-Mobile 4g.
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odd because the stock actually showed 4G so wasnt sure thx
csorrentini said:
odd because the stock actually showed 4G so wasnt sure thx
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T-Mobile USA uses 4g for the h symbol (and I'm pretty sire even for normal 3g, or utms, after seeing romanbb so some tests). But it really is 4g.
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csorrentini said:
hello,
found this issue for a different phone but not the sensation. i just flashed to the Android Revolution HD™ 3.6.2 XE rom and it doesnt show 4G anymore but an H. am i still getting 4G just with an H icon or am i getting less?
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Read the Q&A before flashing the ROM.
Directly from the ARHD ROM web page:
Q 24: Why my "4G" icon is gone from the status bar?
A: My ROMs are based on WWE HTC ROMs. It means that there is no "4G" icon but you have HSPA+ connection with "H" icon anyway.
4g is a scam anyway. The 4g you get is not "real" 4g.
Hey guys, the previous owner of my MR2, put a ferrari emblem on my car. Why isn't my car a ferrari though?
Probably has to do with your ROM being based on a European version.
The technical term for what you call 4G in the US is HSPA and basically is an addon to the UMTS/3g specification.
The Mobile standards organizations have not yet settled on a 4th generation mobile standard, candidates for 4g networks are LTE Advanced (Long Term Evolution Advanced not to confuse with LTE which does not qualify for 4G failing some of the technical criteria), IEEE802.16m or WirelessMAN-Advanced (not sure what that is, all pretty much prototype state)
Then there's the failed/former 4G candidates that all fail one or more of the criteria the standardization bodies agreed on (called 3.9G according to Wikipedia):
3GPP LTE, WiMAX, UMB, Flash-OFDM and iBurst of which only 3GPP LTE and WiMAX were developed into a productive system for mobile phones.
HSDPA, HSDPA+ as well as their upload counterparts HSUPA and HSUPA+ are sometimes referred to as 3.5G and in the US are often marketed as 4G
To sum it up: 4G is not yet there, but it's commonly used as a marketing buzzword for updates to the 3g standards. In europe these updates are called by their technical names HS(U/D)PA(+) and ROMs based on european original firmwares use the H while the US based roms use the 4G icon.
The Sensation does not support any of the 4G networks, neither the candidates nor the discontinued ones. It can only do HSPA+ with data rates of 7.2 Mbit/s per wireless stream. (I think the Sensation supports MIMO to achieve up to 21 MBit/s downstreram)
LTE at 100 Mbit/s or LTE Advanced are NOT Supported by the Sensation, thus it's neither a 3.9G nor a 4G device, but at best a 3.5G device. (Though I think that classification is way more confusing than it helps guessing the performance)
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Got HTC Sensation 4G from T-mobile.
Did S-Off, SuperCID and flashed official European ROM (RUU... 1.45) because I need Russian interface.
Unfortunately, the phone doesn't show "4G" icon anymore Only "H" or "3G" even in T-mobile USA network.
Is it built in radio, or in ROM?
How can I make sure that phone still works in 4G speeds? Or it can not with European ROM and radio?
Maybe any fix available to install?
In europe there is either 4G or LTE.
I think it is the european ROM that doesn't support 4G yet
Tried this rom and getting stuck in a buttloop. Any ideas?!
DmMc said:
Got HTC Sensation 4G from T-mobile.
Did S-Off, SuperCID and flashed official European ROM (RUU... 1.45) because I need Russian interface.
Unfortunately, the phone doesn't show "4G" icon anymore Only "H" or "3G" even in T-mobile USA network.
Is it built in radio, or in ROM?
How can I make sure that phone still works in 4G speeds? Or it can not with European ROM and radio?
Maybe any fix available to install?
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The H represents "4G"
H=4G. You're not losing any data speeds. The icon is just different. It's actually more accurate for the type of speed you're getting (HSPA+) because it's not truly 4G. That's just a marketing term American cellular companies like to use to get the masses to purchase their newer phones. I'm curious if they declare the next speed to be "5G".
FYI- this would be better posted in the Q&A forum next time
The icon is not radio linked.. It's based on what is in your SystemUI.apk file.
I get H+ here in Niagara Falls on Virgin
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Why do they call it the Sensation 4G when it clearly isnt proper 4G technology?
http://www.broadband-expert.co.uk/4g-mobile-broadband/
Can it even handle faster data speeds than the normal 3G version of the Sensation?
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Because it sells devices.
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In another breaking news: The grass is actually green.
ratchetnclank said:
Because it sells devices.
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Yep, but its very missleading really, when all it is is simply HSPA+
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aNYthing24 said:
In another breaking news: The grass is actually green.
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twat........
usual_suspect said:
Can it even handle faster data speeds than the normal 3G version of the Sensation?
Cheers
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There are only two models for the Sensation. The Z710a and Z710e. Both are capable of the same speeds. There is no such thing as 4G or 3G Sensation. The 4G is purely branding/marketing.
lianw said:
There are only two models for the Sensation. The Z710a and Z710e. Both are capable of the same speeds. There is no such thing as 4G or 3G Sensation. The 4G is purely branding/marketing.
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I guess the Sensation HSPA+ doesnt sound so exciting
4G or not, 9Mbps down and over 1Mbps up is pretty fast. I can't say that I'm not content for the time being.
HighTech216 said:
4G or not, 9Mbps down and over 1Mbps up is pretty fast. I can't say that I'm not content for the time being.
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Yeah 9 meg down isnt bad, but Ive seen the posts from you guys on T-mobile over in the states and a lot of you are getting embarrassing results for a network claiming to be 4G which it clearly isnt yet.
Why T-Mobile call it 4G when its clearly HSPA+ I dont know. Call it 4G when 4G becomes available. I dont know anything about USA networks because Im in the UK but I thought wow they actually have 4G in the USA already? .. then I did some research and found out its a load of bollox
For the record the network im using in the UK can match T-Mobile USA for speeds but isnt claiming its a 4G network
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Why T-Mobile call it 4G when its clearly HSPA+ I dont know. Call it 4G when 4G becomes available. I dont know anything about USA networks because Im in the UK but I thought wow they actually have 4G in the USA already? .. then I did some research and found out its a load of bollox
For the record the network im using in the UK can match T-Mobile USA for speeds but isnt claiming its a 4G network
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They are calling it 4G because according the the ITU, Evolved 3G networks are considered Fourth Generation aka 4G. HSPA+ = Evolved High Speed Packet Access. Therefore, classifying HSPA+ as a 4G network is correct. It's the ITU that sets the qualifications, not some British website. You are on the late show to this argument. Nice try though. KThxBai
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx
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They are calling it 4G because according the the ITU, Evolved 3G networks are considered Fourth Generation aka 4G. HSPA+ = Evolved High Speed Packet Access. Therefore, classifying HSPA+ as a 4G network is correct. It's the ITU that sets the qualifications, not some British website. You are on the late show to this argument. Nice try though. KThxBai
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx
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Ok taken from your ITU link..
and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed.
I'm sorry but can you show me speed test result examples of substantial level of data speed improvement using T-Mobile USA compared to standed HSDPA (which is up to 14meg down)...
High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) is an enhanced 3G (third generation) mobile telephony communications protocol in the High-Speed Packet Access (HSPA) family, also dubbed 3.5G, 3G+ or turbo 3G, which allows networks based on Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) to have higher data transfer speeds and capacity. Current HSDPA deployments support down-link speeds of 1.8, 3.6, 7.2 and 14.0 Megabit/s. Further speed increases are available with HSPA+, which provides speeds of up to 42 Mbit/s downlink and 84 Mbit/s with Release 9 of the 3GPP standards
Taken from here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
I havnt seen any impressive speed test results posted on here as of yet, and I would consider a 'substantial level of data speed improvement' to be around 25 meg down and 8 meg up at least, wouldnt you?
We have HSPA+ here in the UK already but our 4G spectrum auctions are not until next year...
http://www.advanced-television.com/index.php/2011/09/06/uk-4g-spectrum-auction-delayed/
By the way, its fashionable to be late to a party
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http://globaltor.com/gadgets-a-mobile/405-htc-sensation-4g-or-not
I have tried searching for this information but all of it was outdated.
I am on the latest ARHD 6.5.1/3.32 ICS with Sense, since i have T-Mobile I get this really annoying 3G to H icon every time i use the network.
How can I change my icon to 4G/2G instead of the annoying E/3G/4G
On a side note, Does anyone know why the 3G icon even appears on T-mobile sensations?
T-Mobile's HSPA+ network isn't 4G.
Officially, it's just 3G. (Some call it 3.5G)
So what you're seeing is switching from UMTS (3G) to HSPA+. (3.5G, if you will)
The term '4G' is reserved for next generation mobile networking technologies, like WiMAX and LTE. So as such, the display is 100% correct. Don't fall for T-Mobile's marketing bull****.
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T-Mobile's HSPA+ network isn't 4G.
Officially, it's just 3G. (Some call it 3.5G)
So what you're seeing is switching from UMTS (3G) to HSPA+. (3.5G, if you will)
The term '4G' is reserved for next generation mobile networking technologies, like WiMAX and LTE. So as such, the display is 100% correct. Don't fall for T-Mobile's marketing bull****.
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Ahhh I see now, thank you for the clear explanation. How can I go about changing the mobile network icon to stock 2g/4g?
Use shnizlon theme you can add a sense 4g or aosp 4g
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Learn to Ninjamorph. There are old vids on youtube to get the gist of the app. It's pretty simple to use.
ieftm said:
t-mobile's hspa+ network isn't 4g.
Officially, it's just 3g. (some call it 3.5g)
so what you're seeing is switching from umts (3g) to hspa+. (3.5g, if you will)
the term '4g' is reserved for next generation mobile networking technologies, like wimax and lte. So as such, the display is 100% correct. Don't fall for t-mobile's marketing bull****.
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thank you holy baby jesus! People on here who know better than to believe tmobile!
Raiderz8418 said:
Ahhh I see now, thank you for the clear explanation. How can I go about changing the mobile network icon to stock 2g/4g?
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You need to pull the systemUI from the rom use 7zip to open it and look for drawable.hdpi in there you will find all the png files change all the h and e pngs to the 2g and 4g png of your choice. Make sure to use the same file name as before. Then save changes and either push apk to system or make a flashable zip.
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ieftm said:
T-Mobile's HSPA+ network isn't 4G.
Officially, it's just 3G. (Some call it 3.5G)
So what you're seeing is switching from UMTS (3G) to HSPA+. (3.5G, if you will)
The term '4G' is reserved for next generation mobile networking technologies, like WiMAX and LTE. So as such, the display is 100% correct. Don't fall for T-Mobile's marketing bull****.
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Well you are sort of correct. The truth is that currently 4g is only marketing schemes right now. In fact HSPA+ technology has been proven to be a lot faster and staBle than wimax. Verizon LTE is the only next generation frequency that outperforms HSPA+. So all in all, its all marketing bull**** with any wireless provider. Read more here: http://mobile.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/TMobiles-HSPA-Network-Is-It-Really-4G-505229/
Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18245560&postcount=23227
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Hi,
I always have long and complicated questions to ask, so I usually don't get much help, probably cause I'm Canadian
I have Bell Sensation 4G. It operates on HSPA+ from what I understand. It's a "sort of" 4G.
Anyways, when I run ICS ARHD, I get H symbol. Yes, I've talked about this topic a lot, but in other aspects. Now I'm just curious about the other phones in US, and if I am actually connected to "4G" networks.
What I want to get to the bottom of is I see mentions a lot of the T-Mobile 4G sensation. Is this specifically because all other Sensations on other US carriers are not 4G capable? Or are every one of them exactly the same, and operate on the same network type (HSPA+)? Essentially making them all the exact same networks and speeds as my Bell unit?
The reason I ask is I'm pissing around with the H, H+, 4G, etc. png icon files in the "systemUI.apk". Just trying to learn what's going on behind the scenes.
I note in there that the files are named as such
"H" icons are named as files like "stat_sys_data_connected_h.png".
"H+" icons are named as files like "stat_sys_data_connected_hplus.png".
Being that on ARHD, "H+" is never used. I am now wondering if I am even connected to HSPA+. I mean, if US carriers other than TMO don't use HSPA+ then that would be reasonable that the standard US based ROM isn't setup to properly connect to the Canadian network? The icon files are there, but they are not being used, so is it because I am not on 4G, because other US phones dont get 4G? Flashing the TMO option gives me the same thing, so maybe because our networks are different?
I understand that there is a mod to switch the TMO version to "4G" icon. But is that simply switching the icon names? Yeah cool I can do that and give myself "H+" icons to make myself happy, but I'd really just like to know if I am even connected to the proper network speeds, and it all has something to do with the radio version and ROM. (afterall, I did fix my 350ms PING to Speedtest.net by flashing stock Bell RUU, so it further makes me think I am not on correct network speeds, rather than just an icon issue)
If you're asking if you're still getting 4g, yes you are.... That is if your phone is capable of 4g... I have tmo sensation 4g and have the H icon... The speed is the same.... No changes at all... I can flash the 4g icon but decided not to... H don't bother me at all since there are no changes in the speed... Sorry if I misunderstand your question in any way, it was just too long to read and I'm getting cross eyed
Some phones in the US don't have 4g capabilities... Usually the older once...
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I know it's too long to read but I don't know how else to explain it, and make it shorter. I just am wondering if T-Mobile 4G HSPA+ is exactly the same as Bell 4G HSPA+?
Put it this way...with ARHD 6.5.x ICS, am I getting the same 4G as I would be with the stock Bell Canada RUU? Everything seems centered around T-Mo 4G, nobody ever talks about Bell 4G!
In my opinion, it depends how strong hspa in your area... I don't think Rom or the phone matters, as long as it can accept hspa signals.... It might matter with the radio thoughh... Don't worry about the long explanation, it was just me thats the problem ...
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4g with Beats Audio
I have seen so many posts and threads here saying H icon is for 4g connection. I am from UK we don't have 4g yet its all 3g still my sensation shows me H icon. On my old Nokia n97 it was showing 3.5g ? It's really confusing.
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The connection that we call 4g ( atleast with tmo) is actually 3.5g. I'm not sure with the LTE technology though....
There's three different 4g types, fastest is LTE then hspa and last WiMAX.... So when you see H its considered 4g as for hspa
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T-Mo doesn't even have much of any hspa+ in the first place... if you look in network settings on the phone, it almost always says hsdpa and never hspa+... along with hspa+ not even being close to 4G.
I came across this when trying to make sure I am doing it right. When installing ARHD it asks if I have a tmobile sensation 4g - I have an unlocked Bell/Virgin Mobile one and have been hitting yes. It seems to work okay, but should I be saying yes to that, or no, because it is a Bell/Virgin one with different bands? Is it just to get the graphical band display? Does it have any impact on performance or the radio?
Hello everyone! So I was wondering if there was a way my HTC one s (s4 version) can get 4g or not? I live in the UK and I'm on giffgaff, but I checked on willmyphonework.com and it doesn't say it works there on any carrier, but on YouTube a few people have 4g on their HTC one s!
Any ideas? Thanks
It doesn't support 4G LTE, which is probably what you'd be after. It does do HSPA+, which is (or was) sometimes considered 4G (it's not a rigid term; "4G" just means "4th generation"), but it's nowhere near as speedy as LTE. Basically, HSPA+ is a souped up HSPA, so it is a bit faster than top-speed 3G, but LTE is a different standard that's based on different technology.