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A few first impressions.. coming from a Sprint Evo 4g.. for others in the same position considering switching over.
First.. the amoled screen is not too impressive.. at least compared to the evo's screen.. YES the contrast is a little better but the pixel density is not even close to as good.. if your holding the phone any closer than 8 or so inches from your eyes.. which I do normally.. you can definitely see pixels .. and it's kinda ridiculous only because all the online reviews and forums touting the display as being just about the best out there.
Aside from the display the phone OWNS the EVO.. at least in my opinion. I'm in Eugene Oregon and Sprints WImax/4g is available here but is not quick.. my speedtest scores with the evo were never above 4mbps and usually under 2mbps... with the Galaxy 4g my speedtest scores are almost never under 4mbps.. and sitting in my home I usually range from at least 5mpbs or better.. my fastest score was 12mbps.. THATS INSANE. One thing I never hear discussed in reviews is Latency/Ping ... I think this adds to the snappyness of cruising the internet or other applications that use an internet connection on a phone... and the TMOBILE Kicks every other carrier's 4g butts in this regard.. the ping/latency ranges between 60-100 on my galaxy 4g vs. 200 or higher on the evo/Sprints 4g. THe ping on Tmobiles 4g is just about the same as my Comcast cable .. that's awesome.
The phone iteslf hardware wise at this point seems to have better battery life and seems to be faster in general opening programs and multitasking than on my Evo.. and I even had custom firmware focused on speed and battery life to improve this.
Hopefully after owning the phone for the 14 days I still feel the same. One thing Sprint has at least in my area is damn good coverage.... My only issue with it was I really thought the 4g was disappointing and the phone was a bit bulky and battery life was usually pretty bad.
haha... my thoughts exacly. well put!
Just got in the new Samsung Nexus S from Sprint and I've noticed some major issues in reception versus the HTC Evo from Sprint as well. I'm seeing a 2+ bar difference in the exact location sitting next to the Evo on the same Sprint network.
Is anybody having this issue? Or does anybody know of a fix.
I have the latest firmware (suggested fix by Sprint) and have seen several complaints about it on other less developer friendly forums.
If I can't come up with a solution soon, I think I'll have to get an Evo. But if you guys can understand, I'd prefer to keep the phone that will get timely updates.
Thanks ahead of time for any suggestions!
You can't compare signal across different devices based on "bars". Check the actual signal strength in Menu > Settings > About Phone.
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I know you need dB... As soon as I can get the Evo next to me again for a comparison, I will post.
I'm a tech savvy guy, run a computer building company and build websites. I even develop some entry-level apps for a few clients (yes entry-level).
If one googles "spring nexus s reception," they'll find that this issue is quite common. I'm just curious as to whether it's hopeless or not.
I know I can petition for the Airave with Sprint and can at least get decent service at home.
It just seems peculiar to me that Google would endorse an inferior product. I live in a major Metropolitan area (DMA has it as a top 25 market - for those who aren't in the media business, that means it's one of the top 25 sized cities in the country). And this phone gets dismal reception.
Fact is, Evo does great in my house, Nexus S does not. I've heard some pretty bad reviews with the Galaxy S line of hardware so I'm figuring it's worth moving to the Evo.
To be honest, this phone is far superior (at the moment) with responsiveness and usability but if a phone can't operate well at being a phone, it's a waste of money. Especially if the hardware is inferior (phone-wise) to most of what HTC released a year ago. I love having a mini-computer in my pocket but I did aim at having a working phone.
Thoughts? Suggestions? School me? I will post the exact numbers when they again are available, until then, please only offer up friendly advice or questions. I am willing to try anything before taking this thing back.
You have not really described your issue. Do you have dropped calls or what?
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I'm having issues with the Sprint Nexus S reception as well. Although my home location on Sprint's coverage map lists my area from medium to strong with 4G available right around the corner from my house I have dismal reception with the Nexus S. I had a trial EVO for a few weeks and reception was much better in the same area. If I try to call the Nexus S I often go right to voicemail, I'm told calls out (when I can) are choppy, data signal is often listed as 1x as opposed to 3g. Is it just this particular phone? Should I go to a Sprint store to have it tested?
There is atl least one thread over at the Sprint Message boards about bad reception on the Nexus S.
At work we have a repeater and the signal still only shows at one or two bars most of the time but data speeds seemed fine to me and I had no problem with making and getting calls.
No one else is having this issue?
This isn't the first post about this subject. I understand and agree. I'm not 100% sure about this when it comes to cell phones but different companies with different radios will give you different signals. If this is the same as two way radios, there's no standard on say how much signal equals one bar on the meter. Even the programs that give the signal strength in numbers, aren't universally accurate. When it comes to received signal, its how you can hear it, not really what the meter says. That number can easily be manipulated. A receiver sensitivity can be adjusted too but there are things that are thrown out too. Crank up the receive and you get more noise than distinguishing signal and adjacent frequency rejection goes to crap. You can work the receiver to have good rejection and sensitivity but you are making it more deaf too.
What I'm getting at is don't always go by what the signal meter says and take it as 100% truth. It is a good indicator of signal but not absolutely 100% accurate.
I am sitting about twenty feet from my router and yet the meter is telling me 50% signal which I know is bull****.
are you up to date?
Yobye, are you on 2.3.4? I have heard the update fixes some people's signal/radio issues.
yobyeknom said:
I'm having issues with the Sprint Nexus S reception as well. Although my home location on Sprint's coverage map lists my area from medium to strong with 4G available right around the corner from my house I have dismal reception with the Nexus S. I had a trial EVO for a few weeks and reception was much better in the same area. If I try to call the Nexus S I often go right to voicemail, I'm told calls out (when I can) are choppy, data signal is often listed as 1x as opposed to 3g. Is it just this particular phone? Should I go to a Sprint store to have it tested?
There is atl least one thread over at the Sprint Message boards about bad reception on the Nexus S.
At work we have a repeater and the signal still only shows at one or two bars most of the time but data speeds seemed fine to me and I had no problem with making and getting calls.
No one else is having this issue?
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Ditto on this. Have all the latest updates. Think it may be time to trade in for the Evo.
I am on 2.3.4. I brought home another Sprint phone from work - a Sanyo Taho and got about the same terrible reception despite the fact I'm in a Sprint Best Coverage area on their map. I miss and drop calls and can't get voice or data connection - send mms, etc from my home. I've contacted Sprint about the tower strength in my neighborhood.
Hey all!
After doing about an hour's worth of research in total, I noticed that there is a general lack of information on the topic of wi-fi reception range of various smartphones.
I for one would consider such information useful, as it could be used to compare performance of the various devices out there. So I figured I'd start this thread to collect some data and experiences.
If you are interested in participating, then please test how far you can move away from your wireless router while still maintaining a reasonably stable connection(i.e. you can browse the web without constant timeouts).
Overall, please try to include the following information if possible:
- Brand and model of your device
- Approximate distance from your wireless router
- How many walls/ceilings/big objects are between you and your router(try as few as possible for the most accurate result)
To start it off, here are my results:
Device: Samsung Galaxy S2
Range: ~50ft(15 meters), 20-30% signal strength average
Obstructions: A desk and 1 wall.
Just some points to consider:
WiFi routers differ in terms of transmission power, thus rendering the results useless without any information about the router.
Other radiating sources might cause interference which will negatively affect the signal
A "reasonably stable connection" is a very subjective opinion. The dBm value would be better.
Yeah, scientifically speaking this is sort of a wasted affair. Curiosity sake though, why not.
This is probably a better test of router transmission than anything, fun nonetheless .
HTC Incredible S, HD revolution 1.0.1 rom (yeah thats right, I haven't updated)
~50 feet. Through 1 floor, 3 walls, 1 door.
Or at work: ~30 feet through one wall.
I can say though, with a sad face, that the iPhone's get better wi-fi reception at work.
Hmm, I suppose you are actually right! For some reason I forgot to consider that the wireless router itself also plays a big role, seeing as they tend to be quite different from each other. I guess I assumed the routers would just about always have bigger range than the phones, but I suppose this isn't always true, is it?
That does make it rather difficult to get accurate and reliable results.. A shame
My Incredible gets decent reception throughout my house. One end to the other the signal is a bit low. Outside sitting about 100 feet from the router inside I get decent reception.
That would be nice, but frankly i think it's impossible to make a decent comparison, there are too many different reuters...
i have se mini desire hd and a hero and they all still get wifi at the bottom of my garden going through two walls, about 100 ft from bt hub
Using a linksys modem from 2005, on HD2, I get poor, but still working signal at the other end of my house (at least 50 feet away from my modem through 4 walls)..
Device:Samsung i5700 Spica
Range:~50ft (15 meters) 40% signal
Obstructions: Nothing
It seems to me like the phone would be more important than the router (assuming that the router has a longer transmitting range than the phone) because in order to establish a TCP connection you would not only need to be able to receive signals from the router, but also send signals back to it. So it would really be your phone's Transmition rate that matters. This of course is not true if different routers are better at receiving week signals than others.
Love this topic, truly wonder why wifi range isn't among standard specs of phones. Tried and tried to find information on it but not yet.
I was dad so got all the hand me down phones . At one time I had all these phones and tried them, wi-fi range being important because I spent a lot of time out in the shop.
2012 Samsung Exhilarate i577 #2 on wi-fi range.
2013 HTC One M7 #3 (lovely phone, they only let me have it for couple of months, but wasn't impressed with range.
2014 Moto G XT1045 #1 and still the champ. cracked screen and little storage, can't believe it's a 2014 phone it was beat on so much by daughter. But still use it as a wi-fi stereo w/ bluetooth speaker.
2016 LG K10 #4 Sucks. In most ways. It seems like it's fast but not. had to get with US Cellular, they basically gave it to me for $20
So yeah, still want to know why it isn't in the specs of a phone? pretty darn important.
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Guys my first-ever post in any forum!
I am too lazy to post any thing but this thread made me take this step. I have two devices right now. Results :
Xiaomi 4A (80 USD)
Range from router (100+ feet) if not less. I crosses the road and still getting reception. (Using youtube)
Blackberry priv (Flagship) NEW
30 feet and wifi disappears
I am testing this Xiaomi 4a since months and difference is too higher than any brands stop dude i.e. iPhone 6s, priv and note8. Sorry if I missed some format but please end my curiosity by telling how the hell can a midrange phone out perform giants with such huge difference? In Xiaomi 4a I receive signal where no other phone ever got even single bar.
Will appreciate.
https://ehtrust.org/science/peer-reviewed-research-studies-on-wi-fi/
https://ehtrust.org/france-new-national-law-bans-wifi-nursery-school/
Use wifi sparingly. Avoid taking kids to wifi schools and limit time in shopping centres and shops wherever possible. Way too many access points. Run a 24-hour wifi router at home at your own risk.
That said, too many variables for meaningful range results, though I have yet to see any product worse than the Teclast x80 Pro I briefly owned. I am still shocked that the wifi could pass basic testing, let alone be foist on the masses.
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in this is kind of idea i share others
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Hebekiah said:
Love this topic, truly wonder why wifi range isn't among standard specs of phones. Tried and tried to find information on it but not yet.
I was dad so got all the hand me down phones . At one time I had all these phones and tried them, wi-fi range being important because I spent a lot of time out in the shop.
2012 Samsung Exhilarate i577 #2 on wi-fi range.
2013 HTC One M7 #3 (lovely phone, they only let me have it for couple of months, but wasn't impressed with range.
2014 Moto G XT1045 #1 and still the champ. cracked screen and little storage, can't believe it's a 2014 phone it was beat on so much by daughter. But still use it as a wi-fi stereo w/ bluetooth speaker.
2016 LG K10 #4 Sucks. In most ways. It seems like it's fast but not. had to get with US Cellular, they basically gave it to me for $20
So yeah, still want to know why it isn't in the specs of a phone? pretty darn important.
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Listing the range specification wouldn't be THAT useful though -- manufacturers would be listing the range from results in a test lab under the best-case scenario, which would be mega-inflated beyond meaning in the real world and wouldn't help anyone. For range maybe they realize that there are too many variables to even get away with doing that *shrugs*
I've searched all over the place for an actual comparison of cell phones and the antenna strength they have. Not how much reception they have, or if they lose signal depending on how you hold them, but how strong their internal antenna is.
Example, the Motorola Milestone, from what I understand has two antennas. Blackberry Torch has two as well. At least that is what I've picked up from bits and pieces around the internet. Not sure if accurate.
But, I know for a fact that the Motorola Milestone will have superior coverage compared to my Galaxy S Fascinate. At least -10dbm, and 5asu better. Which equals almost 2 bars. The Blackberry Torch as well. 3 bars better consistently. So, in this day and age of buying unlocked phones, surely there has to be a comparison somewhere to show which phones have stronger antennas, which ones have the two antennas, etc, etc.
And I just can't find it anywhere. Anyone have ideas?
Bravo!
That's a good wake up call
it's true a lot of people are forgetting the phone main function should be "to be a phone"
yet now in days when people talk or compare a phone, is more into competing power, and how entertaining it's
from personal experience i can say as a PHONE, the Moto Milestone XT720 has absolutely the best reception, vs Nexus S, I9000 and SGS2 i9100, HTC devices, etc
on 2nd place i'll put SGS2 T989 as good reception
3rd place goes for all the others phones
Any other response to this, on the spot, question?
Cheers !
K.
AllGamer said:
Bravo!
That's a good wake up call
it's true a lot of people are forgetting the phone main function should be "to be a phone"
yet now in days when people talk or compare a phone, is more into competing power, and how entertaining it's
from personal experience i can say as a PHONE, the Moto Milestone XT720 has absolutely the best reception, vs Nexus S, I9000 and SGS2 i9100, HTC devices, etc
on 2nd place i'll put SGS2 T989 as good reception
3rd place goes for all the others phones
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Few months later, and I still say the Motorola Milestone has the best reception I've ever seen.
Still looking for an answer to the original question though. Seems like no one has done any research on it and put together some information.
Virtually the same....
Mobile customers planning to do a cell comparison of phone reception strength are pretty much wasting their time.
The majority of cell phones today are so well designed and competitive that they virtually all deliver the same level of service. Users may notice a difference between carriers due to cell site positioning compared to their homes or offices. The closer the cell site is, the better your phone reception is going to be regardless of which cell phone you utilize. Doing a cell comparison phone reception strength of carriers can be a good idea...
AllGamer said:
Bravo!
That's a good wake up call
it's true a lot of people are forgetting the phone main function should be "to be a phone"
yet now in days when people talk or compare a phone, is more into competing power, and how entertaining it's
from personal experience i can say as a PHONE, the Moto Milestone XT720 has absolutely the best reception, vs Nexus S, I9000 and SGS2 i9100, HTC devices, etc
on 2nd place i'll put SGS2 T989 as good reception
3rd place goes for all the others phones
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Cause everyone just uses texts now-a-days rather than calling
cpumaster said:
Mobile customers planning to do a cell comparison of phone reception strength are pretty much wasting their time.
The majority of cell phones today are so well designed and competitive that they virtually all deliver the same level of service. Users may notice a difference between carriers due to cell site positioning compared to their homes or offices. The closer the cell site is, the better your phone reception is going to be regardless of which cell phone you utilize. Doing a cell comparison phone reception strength of carriers can be a good idea...
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Yes, MOST cell phones are more or less the same within a general 'bar' or two. But there are a few that stand out, like the Motorola Milestone and the Blackberry Torch. I was just wondering if there are others that have similar exceptional antenna strength and reception.
I'd like a list like this to, The Nexus S is terrible.
I've noticed that out of all the phones I have had, Nokia's have the best reception. I still like Symbian over Android, but eh
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Nokia and Motorola seem to have the best signal strength based on my experience regardless of the "antenna strength " indicator.
+1 for Nokia phones on sym.
the best signal phone are those with antenna in exterior, and those are safer for healthy.
The original Motorola Droid and my current Droid Razr Maxx have the best signal out of all the phones I've ever had. And I'm talking measuring the signal strength with programs not just by bars, as I found them to be inaccurate.
My HTC phones would have to be held a certain way or the signal strength would drop.
Motorola is best for me .
In my experience most Motorola phones have great antenna/signal strength.
For me Nokia always had best signal but nowdays what to do with their usless phones.
If I remember right when the Galaxy Nexus came out people were showing horrible signal strength across the board. So Samsung issued a 'fix' that changed what was previously 2 bars or something to show as 4-5 bars.
To bump this old thread again.
Consistently getting 2 bars would be fine. Probably good enough to call, and for sure good enough to text.
My problem is I get 1 bar maybe inside my home with the Galaxy S, while the Motorola Milestone gets 4 bars.
Is the Galaxy S2 better in terms of reception than the original Galaxy S? I want to upgrade phones anyways. It is a bigger phone than the original Galaxy S, so perhaps it has better reception.
Azure1203 said:
To bump this old thread again.
Consistently getting 2 bars would be fine. Probably good enough to call, and for sure good enough to text.
My problem is I get 1 bar maybe inside my home with the Galaxy S, while the Motorola Milestone gets 4 bars.
Is the Galaxy S2 better in terms of reception than the original Galaxy S? I want to upgrade phones anyways. It is a bigger phone than the original Galaxy S, so perhaps it has better reception.
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Try switching modems for galaxy S, I get 1-2 bars using JVU modem and 2-4 bars using JW4.
Mostly all Hi-End Motorola phones have the best antennas but if your a modder, stay away
So I recently picked up a Note 9 international version with the exynos proc on eBay because I need dual sim and wanted to test it next to the OP6 and I have been noticing a few interesting things in regards to cellular connectivity.
For reference I have both ATT and T-Mobile - I run dual sim one for work and one personal.
I have been testing LTE speeds around my house, where I have very spotty LTE coverage but no issues making phone calls. My one plus 6 regularly shows LTE+ and that i have 3/4 signal. However, my Note 9 Exynos shows that I only have one bar of "4G". Mind you I know that this is not a carrier version so I am likely not getting any carrier aggregation on the Note 9.
That being said, when I use either my tmo or att sim in either phone my LTE speeds are identical even though my OnePlus is showing significantly better reception. I find this odd as I would assume that my speeds would be better on my OnePlus because of CA and the snapdragon modems.
Outside of my home I notice the same things. The Exynos will have the same speeds as the OnePlus 6 around town. I have been taking them both with me to test this... painfully swapping out sim cards...
Does this seem odd? Should my OnePlus have better speeds than my note 9? I am doing this purely for research I am not looking to measure which phone is better here.... I love both phones and cannot decide which to keep. I just find that the signal strength is not indicative of actual performance. This isn't going to sway me one way or another I guess I'm just wondering why the OnePlus is showing better connection when it really does not seem to be performing any better than the Note 9.
Is this just a case of comparing apples and oranges?
Your effort is admirable but you might have wanted to check the real signal reported (measured) by the phones under
Settings - about phone - status - sim status - signal strenght
That's the value the phone measures. On the other hand, the 'bars' sitting in the status bar are just a non-standardized graphical representation of how much is a certain value.
Does it make sense?
Anyhow, the fact that both the phones reported similar speed, even tho being an empirical test, might mean that they have similar signal reception.
That's based on my knowledge...
nickname_marco said:
Your effort is admirable but you might have wanted to check the real signal reported (measured) by the phones under
Settings - about phone - status - sim status - signal strenght
That's the value the phone measures. On the other hand, the 'bars' sitting in the status bar are just a non-standardized graphical representation of how much is a certain value.
Does it make sense?
Anyhow, the fact that both the phones reported similar speed, even tho being an empirical test, might mean that they have similar signal reception.
That's based on my knowledge...
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Well, hat diggity dawg, haha. I was looking for that for days.
Thanks for pointing that out. I just checked and sure enough in the same location in my home the signal strength is identical. I've been back on my OP6 today and man the gestures are just so nice and the phone is so snappy. The note 9 is too but there is just something about the op6 that makes it feel that much faster.
Try to increase animations speed to 0.5x (in dev settings), feeling will be even better
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