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Hello evereybody !
I got my Raphael 2 weeks ago in France ... was very impressed by the device but very disapointed by the battery life.
The machine was able to run for about 1,5 day on one full charge, not more (it's true that i use it quite intensively).
Then, i had the idea to disable completely the touchfo 3D in today screen parameters, and use the original plugins for messages, calendar, task ...
And then i noticed that my battery was draining very slowly ... in fact, now, i can run the Raphael for about 3 days on one full charge, without any additional charge (no sync at all for these 3 days).
It means that without touchflo 3D ... we can have twice the battery life !
I like touchflo 3D, especially the music player ... but i will not use it anymore !
lol 1,5 day for me would be perfect
my batt only lasts 12h with heavy use (10am to 10pm for exemple)
Ill try disable TF3D
edit: how to change the 2 bottom softkeys without touchflo?
I got Calendar and Contacts, I would like Phone and Contacts
is it possible?
i have not used TF3D since day 1 and max I get for the TP is 12 hours - normal use. 6 hrs - power use
Cant imagine if I had TF on ....
Huh ? 12 h ?
How can it be possible ?
Maybe your devices are faulty ?
mine is set up to be conservative on power :
- no wifi
- no bluetooth
- "push" mail every 30 mn
- auto disconnect from data after 1 minute
- auto ajust screen brightness ... ON but it should be event better OFF
And so : 1,5 days with touchflo or 3 days without touchflo
yes some TP have problems with battery, and this is pretty often... there are some threads about this around there...
I disabled the tf3d and seems like its the same.. in just this few hours I got plenty % drained, just like tf3d on.
guys, have you all tried completely draining (until it shuts off) and recharging the phone while turned off for the first several charges? sounds like that's critical for ensuring adequate battery life in the future
I've always done this with everything that runs on batteries, so I never found out how bad the batteries can get, but i guess it's worth a try for you. good luck!
I have the same problems with my TP!
I will have a crack at it without tf3d tomorrow. I have SPB Mobile Shell and I will let you all know how it fares.
As of now my TP has about 24 hours with tf3d:
-3g off
-brightness on 3rd lowest setting
-data connections set to turn off after 10 seconds of inactivity
-email checks every 30 mins
-RSSHub downloads about 50 items or so every 6 hours
-avg 20-30 mins of talk time per day
-1-2 hr browsing time per day
-1-2 hr gaming time per day
-1-2 hr "messing around" per day
totololo said:
Huh ? 12 h ?
How can it be possible ?
Maybe your devices are faulty ?
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When you use pushmail (set to "real push" respectively "as item arrives") in combination with a 3g network. And lets say about 1-2 hours of usage (phone calls, email replys etc) 12 hours is the maximum you can expect. It's my experience too. Unfortunate truth and was the same on TyTN2. I think that's also what respider meant by "heavy usage".
When you disable 3g you can double this time. And when you disable "as item arrives" and set it to about 30min sync interval you can double the time again.
One of the main reasons for me to buy a HTC phone is TF3D, so personally disabling it would make no sense at all. If I had short battery life I would rather buy a couple extra batteries on EBay than use that ridiculously ugly Windows interface.
DeepThought said:
When you use pushmail (set to "real push" respectively "as item arrives") in combination with a 3g network. And lets say about 1-2 hours of usage (phone calls, email replys etc) 12 hours is the maximum you can expect. It's my experience too. Unfortunate truth and was the same on TyTN2. I think that's also what respider meant by "heavy usage".
When you disable 3g you can double this time. And when you disable "as item arrives" and set it to about 30min sync interval you can double the time again.
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not actually, I mean using the phone many hours a day: playing games, browsing, installing things, uninstalling others, resetting, etc.
And browsing most time @ hsdpa/edge connection, not wifi.
Omg I dont even want to imagine if I set the phone to get mails as it arrives. I dont even know how to do that
Ah, yes, I see, i forgot to tell you that i use only 3G ... to keep enough battery life ...
I had an iPhone 3G before this device. With 3G and pushmail set to 15 mn, the battery life was a lot better ... let's say about 1,5 to 2 days on the apple phone. But without 3G and pushmail set on 30mn, and without touchflo ... the Rapahael is a lot better than an iPhone in the same conditions ...
euphoria47 said:
I will have a crack at it without tf3d tomorrow. I have SPB Mobile Shell and I will let you all know how it fares.
As of now my TP has about 24 hours with tf3d:
-3g off
-brightness on 3rd lowest setting
-data connections set to turn off after 10 seconds of inactivity
-email checks every 30 mins
-RSSHub downloads about 50 items or so every 6 hours
-avg 20-30 mins of talk time per day
-1-2 hr browsing time per day
-1-2 hr gaming time per day
-1-2 hr "messing around" per day
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With SPB Mobile Shell, I found my battery lasts a lot longer (over 30 hours). I used the phone to surf the web for several hours last night then purposely killed the battery by turning up the brightness to max, etc, even then, I probably managed 6 or 7 hours of active use in total since I charged the phone.
Perhaps tomorrow I could try without SPBMS, just the default windows interface, though even if it saves a ton of battery, the sacrifice in interface probably wouldn't be worth it to me!
i have problems while tethering because it drains even conected and this never happend with my 6700 or 6800, battery also gets hot like crazy
Touch Pro w/o TF3D?
Smaniac said:
One of the main reasons for me to buy a HTC phone is TF3D, so personally disabling it would make no sense at all. If I had short battery life I would rather buy a couple extra batteries on EBay than use that ridiculously ugly Windows interface.
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I agree with Smaniac. One major selling point for this generation of HTC (Diamond, Raphael, Blackstone) is the TF3D, disabling seems like backward step in usability. Every handset maker is trying to get into gesture/touch screen as interface, so losing the gesture recognition in TF3D would defeat the purpose of having Raphael imo.
Do you mind posting how you charged your battery when it arrived, and how your charging behaviors are? Although it may be just because in france they have different voltage than in the usa
totololo said:
Hello evereybody !
I got my Raphael 2 weeks ago in France ... was very impressed by the device but very disapointed by the battery life.
The machine was able to run for about 1,5 day on one full charge, not more (it's true that i use it quite intensively).
Then, i had the idea to disable completely the touchfo 3D in today screen parameters, and use the original plugins for messages, calendar, task ...
And then i noticed that my battery was draining very slowly ... in fact, now, i can run the Raphael for about 3 days on one full charge, without any additional charge (no sync at all for these 3 days).
It means that without touchflo 3D ... we can have twice the battery life !
I like touchflo 3D, especially the music player ... but i will not use it anymore !
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As usual with any battery powered device, i calibrated the battery : charged it fully in one step before to unplug it, then discharged it fully (until the device refused to wake up) in one other step, without plugging it on AC or even USB.
then, began to use it freely ...
totololo said:
Hello evereybody !
I got my Raphael 2 weeks ago in France ... was very impressed by the device but very disapointed by the battery life.
The machine was able to run for about 1,5 day on one full charge, not more (it's true that i use it quite intensively).
Then, i had the idea to disable completely the touchfo 3D in today screen parameters, and use the original plugins for messages, calendar, task ...
And then i noticed that my battery was draining very slowly ... in fact, now, i can run the Raphael for about 3 days on one full charge, without any additional charge (no sync at all for these 3 days).
It means that without touchflo 3D ... we can have twice the battery life !
I like touchflo 3D, especially the music player ... but i will not use it anymore !
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Haha if your battery lasts for 1 ½ thats not heavy use.
When I have have day with heavy use I talk around +2 hrs a day + normal email etc. that kind on day Im lucky if my battery lasts to evening.
I have TF3D enabled on mine and my battery seems fine. I listened to a whole basketball game last night using mine streaming it from the web (including 2 overtimes and it lasted), the web site states it's supposed to get 4 hours talk time, I'd say I'm getting about that between phone calls, web usage, push mail enabled, etc
I have TF3D enabled, push mail enbaled, Microsoft Communicator Mobile enabled, 3G enabled, lots of phone calls, no bluetooth, no Wifi, no web browsing, no music, no camera and the battery lasts for roughly 5-6 hours if I am lucky.
Okay so I noticed my Captivate seems to lose a lot of battery while in standby. To test this, I left it unplugged when I went to bed last night. I checked the battery level right when I went to sleep and then again when I woke up...
My battery drained from 64% to 31% in about 7 hours!!!
I know other threads discuss bad battery life. A bright screen and a 1GHZ processor can cause this so I can understand why the phone won't allow me to browse the web for 10 hours straight. But is everyone else getting an almost 5%/hour drain in battery while in standby?
Here is a little info about my setup:
-I took off an animated background and put one that is relatively dark (Screen is off during standby so I would think this doesn't matter)
-I have WiFi and Bluetooth enabled.
-I use both wireless networks and GPS for location.
-I have 1 Gmail account setup to check every hour.
-I have the Daily Briefing set up to check every 3 hours.
-I have the Slickdeals widget set to check every 2 hours.
-I have the Latitude widget running (you can't set how often it refreshes).
-I have the ESPN ScoreCenter widget running.
That's about all I did that I can think of that can possibly affect battery. I know I would get better battery with less background widgets, but all of this is in line with the amount of background services I had running on my last phone (Tilt 2) and that thing would last for several days with light use.
So, what I'm trying to find out is whether or not this is normal behavior that everyone is seeing or perhaps if one of the background widgets I'm using is known for draining a crazy amount of battery. Maybe I need to hard reset the phone? Thanks in advance for any ideas on how to lock this down.
In poor reception I could see that. But I'm good area that's too much. Like 2% every hour is good... 5 is too much....
Thanks for your reply. I had 3 bars of service where I was last night. Also, this isn't the first time I've noticed about 5%/hour for standby, just one example...
So it sounds like I'm getting worse drain than normal? Now, how to fix it?
Well...with all the email checks and having various Widgets check for updates..it will definitely drain the battery. I have been able to easily get twelve+ hours on standby without GPS on and turning off wifi when not at home or in a place with wifi.
Definitely can't go days without charging like I could with previous phones like my blackjack II buy I can get 12-16 hours with light to moderate use and 10-12 with somewhat moderate use of Facebook, wifi, various other apps.
EDIT: the Bluetooth as well will drain the battery.
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I have very similar battery usage to use. About 5% an hour not doing anything. I am always around a wifi and leave it turned on. I have nearly an out of the box setup. Between the poor battery life and crappy GPS, I may very well be taking this thing back.
Under Settings > Wireless and Network > Wi-Fi settings > Bring up the Advanced menu and set the Wi-Fi sleep policy to "Never".
This has helped my battery life immensely, since I am around Wi-Fi most of the time. This way all your data happens over Wi-Fi instead of 3G when the screen sleeps. I disable Wi-Fi when I'm not around any APs I normally connect to.
Pulled phone off the charger at 6:00AM yesterday morning. Streamed an hour and half to 2+ hours worth of Pandora over wi-fi getting ready for work and then some in the car. Did some web surfing during the day, various other things. (No phone calls really, except a brief wrong number). 4 e-mail accounts checking every 30 minutes (one an Exchange server). Also have Touchdown running push e-mail for another Exchange mailbox along with the Touchdown widget. Played around with some GPS apps (new google maps, Places, etc for a few minutes). Battery was down to about 16% by about midnight last night.
My phone charged fully overnight (with power off). Was turned on at 7AM, it is now 11am, and am at 90%.
I do not use GPS, have nothing running, no emails or social networking status updates.. The phone is on standby on my desk. I only do a few text messages and 5 minutes of voice calls / day.
So this means I get 40hrs of standby time? That is a little ridiculous.
I chatted with AT&T tech support and they said that the AT&T stores don't have battery replacements yet, but I could get a full phone replacement since I am within the 30 days still.
But from what I am hearing, it seems most people are having the same issue if not worse, correct?
I really don't want to set everything back up AGAIN. I am coming from using a Samsung Eternity - understand it isn't a true "smartphone" - but I use it the same, and would easily go 3-4 days without needing a charge.
with GPS off, wifi off, BT off, no data sync or background data turned on, i charge it fully at night -
last 3 nights in a row, at midnight it was showing 100% and at 7:30AM it would show 97-98% remaining, and that was using the alarm, set to loud and probably ran 2 minutes before i'd hit the off button
From 7:30am-11am, I have used 4% of my battery. I have these things going on:
-Exchange sync (real time)
-Facebook sync (once every hour)
-wireless off, bluetooth off, GPS not being utilized
-Weather.com and a Google search widget
The battery use shows this:
-Cell standby: 48%
-Phone idle: 36%
-Display: 8%
-Android System: 3%
-Email: 3%
-Android OS: 2%
I've barely used my phone this morning, so I'd think 4% of use in 3.5 hours is quite acceptable. It sounds like you need to make some modifications to improve your performance.
firehazard - what modifications have you done? I have wifi/bt off, background data off, no email syncing - display brightness all the way down..
To anyone who is having very poor battery life, I suggest a factory data reset when you exhaust other options. My phone wasn't lasting me more than about 8 hours on a full charge, with light to moderate usage. After a factory reset, I just ran nearly 24 hours with similar usage.
I can't tell you what changed or what got removed, maybe it was an app that was running and draining the battery that I didn't see, but battery life is MUCH better now. Hell, everything is running much better, even the GPS.
I went from wanting to throw this phone at a wall and return it for my iPhone 4 again, to loving it in less than 24 hours.
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firehazard - what modifications have you done? I have wifi/bt off, background data off, no email syncing - display brightness all the way down..
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I'm referring to him running wifi and bluetooth when he's not even using his phone. Stuff like that.
Just for recording keeping, when a phone company says their phone can last XXXHours in Standby this means, that all wireless transmitters are off. this means (for the most part) airplane mode, with bluetooth, and wifi OFF.
these continuous wireless transmitters are why you didnt get the 200Hours or what ever it is in standby mode.
I recently took my phone back to BestBuy for a replacement since my battery was trying to kill itself overnight as well. I did the full charge when I first got it and purposely ran the battery down to quickly get it to turn itself off at 0%. Did a full recharge and repeated this process about 3 times and last night my battery only went down 3% over 6 hours. Compared to the 30-40% that was draining before, I'd say the full discharge/full recharge works that people have been talking about in the battery threads works. Thanks, everyone! I use Y5 to have it automatically connect to my WiFi at home when it's in range. Not much more than the usual was left to sync (although JuiceDefender may be working to turn stuff off when my screen is off) such as Gmail, Beautiful widgets, facebook, and one rss feed.
Either that or I had a crappy battery before
Seems like some folks are having the same problem as me, while others are having much better results. Firehazard's situation and drain while not in use is pretty much in line with my expectations of the phone. With my old Tilt 2, I left WiFi and Bluetooth on all the time and still got great standby time out of the phone. When those connections weren't in use, they weren't really draining my battery in any way. I'm going to try to disable them though and see if that helps. I'll also try to monitor the battery usage screen and see how much power is going to wifi and bluetooth when I have them on.
I've been suspicious of my battery as well, tracking it casually today.
Took it off the charger approx 8:30am, immediately went to 99%.
Watching it over the last hour it appears to be losing 1% / 10 minutes.
Running services:
SnsService
GTalkService
DMService (Device management)
Swype
TransactionService (Messaging)
org.npr.android.news (NPR)
Battery Widget
Dictionary.com (word of the day widget)
JuiceDefender
Android Core Apps
Google Voice
Cached Applications:
AppBrain
AT&T Nav
Calendar
com.sec.android.providers.downloads
Daily Briefing
LogsProvider
My Uploads
Phone
Samsung account
Wapedia
Just using it for the past 5 minutes to write up everything running has dropped the battery almost 3%. Albeit I have terrible cell coverage where I am. It does seem that the cell and wifi receivers are a bit weak, or the meters are biased conservatively.
*edit* I want to be clear that I love this phone, I just want to try and find out what and if certain services/applications drain the battery and if not then if I have a bad battery.
Okay, so I turned OFF bluetooth and WiFi and checked the battery before bed and right when I woke up. This time, I lost 24% over 8 hours. Certainly a big improvement over 33% in 7 hours, but also no where near where my old Tilt 2 was. I would lose 2-3% overnight at the most with that phone. I checked the battery meter and the majority of the battery went to Cell Standby and Phone Idle. Those don't seem like things that can be avoided through tweaking. I was in an area with 3 bars of service (same as night before), so I don't think that was an issue.
I'm debating whether or not I should try a factory data reset. Some folks reported good results with that. I really don't feel like reconfiguring my whole device if there isn't a good chance for improvement. Maybe the GPS fix that's coming will help battery life?
Have you tried reconditioning the battery? That would be the charging/discharching cycles mentioned throughout the forum?
I have done it and my phone has been on standby for more than 24 hours and I am still at 50% battery. It's just had very light usage. Wifi on for about an hour, snapping a few pics, deleting some others. A bit of calc usage. When I first got it, my battery was dismal.
Mine hasn't been modded one bit yet, just installed some apps from the market and a weather widget.
Yes, tried that. It actually helped a little but I'm still getting poor results compared to some.
I have another theory/question. I use gmail as my only email account on my phone. Its set up through the system and it syncs to the gmail application on the phone. I also have it set up in the Samsung default email client (which I prefer). Am I wasting battery because the two apps are checking mail independently? Does the gmail account sync while the Samsung one checks at intervals (I have mine set to 1 hr)?
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Yes, tried that. It actually helped a little but I'm still getting poor results compared to some.
I have another theory/question. I use gmail as my only email account on my phone. Its set up through the system and it syncs to the gmail application on the phone. I also have it set up in the Samsung default email client (which I prefer). Am I wasting battery because the two apps are checking mail independently? Does the gmail account sync while the Samsung one checks at intervals (I have mine set to 1 hr)?
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probably.
follow battery optimization guide in pimp my captivate.pdf thread. I get 1-2% battery consumption per hour with moderate to light usage.
heavy usage drops my battery about 4-5% per hour. By heavy usage I mean playing 3D games for hours str8
I'll try to make this short and to the point. Can someone/anyone tell me which apps to (titanium backup) Freeze to *stop* all blur activity on this phone? I am *so* damn frustrated. My battery life sux0rs.
Some background for you: I started carrying around PDAs 10 years ago. I learned a long time back to be battery (and memory)-thrifty. The last PDA I carried was a Palm Centro.
I kicked it to the curb for the Moto Droid1. LOVED the D1. I got nice battery life out of it: after a day of moderate use (6am off the charger-11pm back on) I still had 70% battery. Yes, I had to tweak and tune it. But, not much. I still ran all day with bluetooth, 3G, wifi, and background data on. ON. I did not sync my email accounts every 30 minutes, more like every 2 or 4 hours. Social apps, manual sync only. 70% full battery at the end of the day. Texting and voice and music streaming.
The the D1 died. Known touchscreen issue. <sigh>
Move into the D2G - OW! Everyday I turn off (freeze) more apps, but there's no change to my battery life. Typically at 3pm I'm at 30 to 40% without even having used the phone other than to wake it to check the time. Grrrrr! Called VZW and they said to turn off "data enabled" in Data Manager. I did and got 90% battery at the end of the day. But what's the point of having a smartphone if you have to manually turn on features?
So, I'm on a hunt, because I think the battery-blasting perpetrator is "MotoBlur."
Am I right?
Can someone tell me which system apps are Blur? I'd like to freeze *all signs* of it.
So, I guess that wasn't short. Sorry. But I still need your help. Please.
Dan
Blur is deeply integrated into the base system. You cannot get rid of it completely. Other than that, DroidForums' Droid 2 Global section has a thread with a CWM script that freezes everything that is possible to freeze on stock.
I got up to 50 hours battery life with that without disabling mobile data or wifi.
I thank you for your reply, Gasai Yuno.
I have searched here for this thread you mentioned using a variety of search terms and I cannot locate it.
Could you post the name of the thread, please? Or a link?
Thanks!
It's a sticky.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-2-global/108937-droid-2-global-bloatware-removal-script.html
The biggest improvement I saw with battery life was using SetCpu to scale back processor speed when the screen is off. It's an old app, so there are probably better ones out there now, but it still works for me.
Comes off charge at 7am, still have 70% at 5pm.
Yesterday I started using SetCPU just to see how well it worked. Right now (12:30 am - came off charger at 9am this morning) I'm at 80% and I can't tell you how delighted I am. Mind you, it's been a very light use day for me.
Dan
I can't get through a full day on my Epic 4g, whereas my wife's completely stock D2G gets through a full day with 50% charge left. Cry me a river...
MUCH better now...
I'm now routinely getting 70%-80% remaining charge at 11pm with moderate phone use. The phone is charging from 11pm to 6:30am.
Here are all the critical settings I have tweaked/toggled.
SetCPU: I have two profiles: 1. when screen off, set cpu speed to 300meg, and 2. when battery below 30% set cpu speed to 300meg.
System settings: screen brightness - manual at 30%, GPS off. Wifi, bluetooth, mobile data toggled on. home/menu/wireless & network/mobile networks/network mode = cdma
Juicedefender Ultimate: when screen off, kill data after 15 minutes and turn off wifi after 15 unless a data transfer (>30KB) is happening and will last more than 1 minute. APN/Wifi activated 1 minute every 15.
Home/menu/data manager: data delivery/background data = on. All other toggles off. Home/menu/data manager/social applications/sync over wifi = on.
home/menu/battery manager/battery mode=performance mode
I also use: Juiceplotter (battery graphic app), and Spareparts (awesome app to monitor what apps are keeping your phone awake).
Titanium backup, frozen apps list. These are all stock apps!
3g mobile hotspot
admin notifier
adservice
amazon mp3
backup assistant
backup assistant client
blockbuster
blur.res
cardock
city id
com.motorola.photowidget
contacts unconnected
dnla
dnlasystemservice
email
email engine
emergency alert
fota
global phone auto network mode switch
global unplug
help center
home
home screen tips
inpocket
manage sim card
mediashare
motorola services
my verizon mobile
news
news and weather
nfs shift
quickoffice 3.3.67 - motorola
sim contacts
sim toolkit
skype mobile
social messaging
social messaging service
social networking
social status
swype
task manager
toggle widgets
tts service
video editor lite
visualization
voicemail
vz navigator
weather
work contacts
world clock
yahoo contacts
If anyone tries to freeze more system apps and is successful, PLEASE post them in this thread.
I rather deleted all .apk using root file explorer.
The biggest improvements ive seen have been running a rom either Angel or Hexen. It basically deletes all the ones you froze, and i run juice defender... I get about a full day w/heavy use ......
I gained some battery life running fission over stock, then I got the extended battery and underclocked the proc to 800mhz max for normal use and finally got full day battery. Now I'm running cm7 and without changing the clock speed I'm getting close to the same battery life.
The biggest gain was the extended batt. Also, using the hard clip on case with holster from the vzw store, I just leave the battery door off and it fits.
abalsor said:
The biggest improvements ive seen have been running a rom either Angel or Hexen. It basically deletes all the ones you froze, and i run juice defender... I get about a full day w/heavy use ......
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No matter what you delete, phone cannot last full day with heavy use. Unless you consider 1-2 hours screen on and data/services/everything disabled, a heavy use. Even with the extended battery.
Phone will last 12(16) hours with normal(extended) battery if on 2.4.330 firmware and in good signal coverage area with data/gps/sync/email enabled, around 30 minutes talking and up to 2 hours screen on. Which is fine and could be called moderate use. Heavy use I call 3+ hours screen on.
Mine would last about 5 hours heavy use (screen on all the time since I am doing something on the phone).
My phone is usually used as a phone, with occasional Twitter/Google+ access, and Endomondo when I'm outside. Everything enabled (WiFi, 3G, GPS, sync).
On stock 2.4.330, rooted, bloatware frozen, I get up to 40 hours on battery.
make sure u dont freeze the email engine cause da could mess up ur text messaging.
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I haven't completely figured this out yet so you'll need to be patient with me.
Basically there was a new update for Es Task Manager which made it a whole lot more advanced, giving you control over not just running tasks but what tasks autostart at startup etc.
Anyway, i was playing around with it and decided to kill everything that i dont use and prevent it all from restarting for a laugh. The one thing i added to the "ignored list" - a list of apps that it never kills - is adw launcher.
Now im not sure which particular task it is but there must be some piece of LG software which is seriously eating up the battery because with all the ancillary background crap killed and just usual phone use (calls, texts, emails, some browsing, one or two photos and a pair of short 1080p 2D videos) and then a whole nights sleep with 3g on the whole time i have mamanged to retain 71% of the battery after 16 hours, 56 minites abd 30 odd seconds.
Im gonna investigate it more to find out what i did but so far this looks promising in helping fix this horrible battery life some of you have been getting.
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Most LG apps are blockable, latest update however made com.lge.omadclient (the update checker) semi unblockable but blocking that breaks settings app so have to live with it until that's fixed.
But yeah, seems weird that the phone uses 2/3 of the power that the screen requires for Phone idle (% used divided by time) guessing there are a lot of things that currently are using too much juice from the battery for no reason, hopefully this will change with CM7
Third party apps can still access the setting even when the settings app itself force closes. I had to find a way around that previously when i removed the fonts app and discovered that display settings no longer worked. Most of the "battery optimization" apps allow you to change most of the settings you might need to if any part of the menu becomes innaccessible.
I noticed that omadclient seemed to be running forever and not achieving anything. Also com.lge.hiddenmenu is a suspect for using a bunch of battery.
Im hoping that some serious efficiencies can be discovered with the wifi adapter too cuz it seems to absolutely ruin the battery life even when just idle.
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If you guys have background **** that wants to sync the whole time on the web....doesnt juice defender ultimate help? Its supposed to only grant internet access to all apps on a user definced time frame? (every 30mins for example)
I figured that default email app consumes too much battery and data with activesync. I deleted my corporate account and battery improved at least three times
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I normally turn off 3G unless im actually using it, i fire it on selectively to check mail and google something. Old habits. Recently i have been leaving it on but the only things i have running that update are facey and gmail. Im convincee there is some other background process running that doesnt need to be.
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Amazingly BAD
I charged my O3D last night and went to bed with 82pct batery. 8 hours later when i woke up it is on 4pct...
Data and wifi turned off
screen turned off
auto sync turned off
how is this possible ?
4700pedersen said:
I charged my O3D last night and went to bed with 82pct batery. 8 hours later when i woke up it is on 4pct...
Data and wifi turned off
screen turned off
auto sync turned off
how is this possible ?
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Like im saying, theres something in the system eating battery behind the scenes.
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Parhaps the o3d does not sleep like the evo3d also had that problem?
Should be fixable somehow.
Wll lets hope so.... Im about to sell it just because of the damn battery drain....
And october is so far away if it will be fixed in gingerbread
I am on V10F today. I got the update yesterday night.
I have unplugged my phone at 07:20 this morning. I have made some calls, recived and sent a couple of texts. 3G data was always on, FB, Google+, Twitter, Gmail, Market, Weather App were always syncing. I have played a couple of games. Some surfing etc. It was a very ordinary day for my phone.. It is 22:44 now and I have 61% battery left. I think it is doing quite good.
I am using Automatic Task Killer and deleted my corporate e-mail account from the phone. E-Mail app of LG is a true disaster. Havent tried Touchdown yet, probably it will solve the case.
exceleth said:
I am on V10F today. I got the update yesterday night.
I have unplugged my phone at 07:20 this morning. I have made some calls, recived and sent a couple of texts. 3G data was always on, FB, Google+, Twitter, Gmail, Market, Weather App were always syncing. I have played a couple of games. Some surfing etc. It was a very ordinary day for my phone.. It is 22:44 now and I have 61% battery left. I think it is doing quite good.
I am using Automatic Task Killer and deleted my corporate e-mail account from the phone. E-Mail app of LG is a true disaster. Havent tried Touchdown yet, probably it will solve the case.
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thats the life im looking for. il probaly use 3g browsing about one hour per day and also leave syncing of everything on the whole day.
then play games for an hour...wondering how much il have left?
screen brightness medium or did you had it lowered all the way?
borgqueenx said:
thats the life im looking for. il probaly use 3g browsing about one hour per day and also leave syncing of everything on the whole day.
then play games for an hour...wondering how much il have left?
screen brightness medium or did you had it lowered all the way?
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Screen brightness is always automatic.
Today, I have 77% battery left and it has been 7 hours after unplugging.
Data, 3G and Sync was always on. I havent played any games yet but used 3D camera which also consumes a lot.
I've got something incredible for me:
2 days, 2 hours, and 44 minutes. And I still have 8% remaining:
Details:
- Default launcher.
- 3G always off.
- Wireless is one when needed, first day it was on for about 4 hours of usage, and the second day for about two hours. During that time Sync is on, checking emails, using twitter app, reading Whatsapp messages, surfing by Tapatalk, youtube 3D, and downlading some videos.
- Taking some 3D pictures and some 2D/3D videos.
- Showing off 3D videos for friends.
- Playing a little bit 2D games before sleeping, about half an hour.
- Using TwinPic app and viewing 3D pictures.
- Receiving and making some calls.
Note that I have 14 3D app,42 default app, and 120 downloaded apps.
What helped me is Advanced task killer app, I used this configuration:
- Auto kill level: Aggressive.
- Auto kill frequency: When screen is off.
abo_mara7 said:
I've got something incredible for me:
2 days, 2 hours, and 44 minutes. And I still have 8% remaining:
Details:
- Default launcher.
- 3G always off.
- Wireless is one when needed, first day it was on for about 4 hours of usage, and the second day for about two hours. During that time Sync is on, checking emails, using twitter app, reading Whatsapp messages, surfing by Tapatalk, youtube 3D, and downlading some videos.
- Taking some 3D pictures and some 2D/3D videos.
- Showing off 3D videos for friends.
- Playing a little bit 2D games before sleeping, about half an hour.
- Using TwinPic app and viewing 3D pictures.
- Receiving and making some calls.
Note that I have 14 3D app,42 default app, and 120 downloaded apps.
What helped me is Advanced task killer app, I used this configuration:
- Auto kill level: Aggressive.
- Auto kill frequency: When screen is off.
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What rom?
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What rom?
Sent from my LG-P920 using XDA Premium App
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Stock rom, V10f.
hey guys,
i made the experience, that the LG battery widget is one of the major problems for me. I just deactivated that and couldn't believe that this helps so much.
would be nice if you could test it for you and share your experiences.
check if there is a battery widget running. usually they drain battery. have optimus 3d and with everything off (wifi, bt, gps, no sync, no email, no skype, default task manager shows 0 apps running) from durning 8 hours of standby mode got from 90% to 6%. charged till 97% unplugged from socket in 20mins lost 3% battery. after 2 hours 50 was left.
removed LG battery widget from the desktop. charged back to 100%, unplugged. 2 hours passed: 99%.
seems that was the issue. hope it helps someone
I'm running V10D. Normal calls, text, browsing a bit... Here is my battery usage:
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I haven't completely figured this out yet so you'll need to be patient with me. Basically there was a new update for Es Task Manager which made it a whole lot more advanced, giving you control over not just running tasks but what tasks autostart at startup etc. Anyway, i was playing around with it and decided to kill everything that i dont use and prevent it all from restarting for a laugh. The one thing i added to the "ignored list" -a list of apps that it never kills -is adw launcher. Now im not sure which particular task it is but there must be some piece of LG software which is seriously eating up the battery because with all the ancillary background crap killed and just usual phone use (calls, texts, emails, some browsing, one or two photos and a pair of short 1080p 2D videos) and then a whole nights sleep with 3g on the whole time i have mamanged to retain 71% of the battery after 16 hours, 56 minites abd 30 odd seconds. Im gonna investigate it more to find out what i did but so far this looks promising in helping fix this horrible battery life some of you have been getting.
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did you turn on your O3d or just let it standby,hefonthefjords?
I use juice defender, advanced task killer... it didn"t help me at all... or maybe my setting was wrong...
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hefonthefjords said:
Third party apps can still access the setting even when the settings app itself force closes. I had to find a way around that previously when i removed the fonts app and discovered that display settings no longer worked. Most of the "battery optimization" apps allow you to change most of the settings you might need to if any part of the menu becomes innaccessible. I noticed that omadclient seemed to be running forever and not achieving anything. Also com.lge.hiddenmenu is a suspect for using a bunch of battery. Im hoping that some serious efficiencies can be discovered with the wifi adapter too cuz it seems to absolutely ruin the battery life even when just idle.
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i uninstalled the com.lge.hiddenmenu and then i can't access setting... so be carefull.... about this O3D battery.... i carry another battery with me everytime...
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Hi,
First post here, so I hope I'm posting at the right place.
Just bought an unlocked Samsung Omnia W (Focus Flash stateside) around four days ago. I didn't notice anything about the battery life the first two days since I was using it quite heavily and felt the rapid discharge was normal (the usual rigmarole- everything turned on).
Last two days, I've started using services more selectively, and still see my battery discharging at an alarming rate. I'm talking 5-8% in an hour with barely a minute or so of the screen being on for checking texts and sending a few.
I've disabled everything- location services, ALL live tiles, WiFi, Bluetooth, even went as far as to disable 3G and switched to 2G. I switched back to 3G because where I'm at I get a full 3G signal but a very light 2G signal. I've put off all background services (Gmapps was the only one, I uninstalled it). Turned off Xbox Live connection as well. Turned off facebook chat. Removed the People Tile. Three email accounts set to sync "as mail arrives".
I noticed the battery saver screen was showing me only 3 hours on 48% charge. I then completely discharged the battery through WPBench battery test (which showed 52 minutes starting at 25% battery life). Now, I've been charging it for an hour or so, and the battery saver screen shows 22% and estimates only 1 hour as the run time.
Is my battery defective? The WPBench time of 52 minutes for 25% seemed par for the Focus Flash (Engadget gave it a run time of 3 hours 30 on WP bench I think), but this fast discharge is really baffling and makes me kind of afraid to use the phone too much. I've heard the Flash has stellar battery life, so if anyone can throw some light on the matter, that would be great.
By the way, updated to 8107 two days ago through Zune. Normal usage consists of 30-40 texts a day, an hour of calls max and maybe 10-15 minutes of browsing. Battery saver screen usually shows only 9-10 hours on a full charge, though it does last a bit longer than that (14-16 hours). I'm sure such light usage doesn't warrant such a quick discharge.
I apologize if this makes for a really long read, first time here.
Thanks.
First, battery saver gives times based on previous data so it will get more accurate with time. Second, the battery will get better after about of week of use, it takes a little time to 'break in.' Third, if you are in an area that has poor reception your phone will try to find a signal a lot more and this can drain power quite a bit. Fourth, try returning everything to normal as far as background agents, email sync, and data settings ect. but turn 'battery saver' on after a full charge. If you still have bad battery life then perhaps somethng is wrong with your battery/phone.
EDIT: if you are using 'light' as your theme you will use a lot more power since amoled screens work best with black bacgrounds since the black areas are essentally 'off'
Been using a dark tile. Let's see how it handles with time.
A lot of my friends with Android phones simply keep data off since their batteries barely last if it's on, do I need to take any such harsh measures with WP? I hope not, I like my mail to arrive immediately (I have set sync on "as mail arrives").
Push email (the "as mail arrives" setting) is actually a very substantial power-drain. Setting it to even just every few minutes (5? 15? I forget what the next level down is) will help.
I may be wrong, but won't it cost less battery if the phone was getting push mail, say, three times a day for 3 separate mails as compared to checking every hour 24 times a day?
Why would you think that? The phone doesn't magically know when email is available for it, to only wake up the email sync process and data connection then and leave them off the rest of the time. It has to maintain a continuous (or nearly - often enough that you don't notice the gap) connection to the server. Even idle, any kind of live data connection uses more power than a process which stays suspended 99.9% of the time (meaning 86.4 seconds of activity per day, which is probably a pretty good estimate actually).
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Why would you think that? The phone doesn't magically know when email is available for it, to only wake up the email sync process and data connection then and leave them off the rest of the time. It has to maintain a continuous (or nearly - often enough that you don't notice the gap) connection to the server. Even idle, any kind of live data connection uses more power than a process which stays suspended 99.9% of the time (meaning 86.4 seconds of activity per day, which is probably a pretty good estimate actually).
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I thought push email and other kind of push notifications were sent from the server to the phone, and so the phone didn't have to be constantly checking for email updates...
The phone needs to be listening for those notifications. That requires running the radio (for data) at a higher-than-minimum level. Push notifications have a similar impact to push email, in terms of battery life. It's not hugely destructive - I have two email accounts that use push, and still tend to get through the day and then a bit just fine - but it does impact the battery life.