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Best way to save battery is a minor inconvenience

If you dont care about push email and syncing contacts (most of us arent that important) I highly recommend turning off "Always on data" in the wireless settings. This time of day I am normally around 60% battery left (sometimes less) when I have it on... with it off? Im hovering around 92% battery and my phone started at 97% this morning because of the charger bug...
Basically if you turn this off, your phones DATA radio shuts off after 10 minutes of sleep. Gtalk, Gmail, contacts, calendar will not auto-push at this point, nor will any of your other apps (but who cares the phone is off). The work around for GTalk is simple - use trillian or Beejive which utilize Google Push messaging. Basically when you wake your phone, you instantly get all the missed IMs since both chat apps save your IMs on the server until you are available to push to. Android is awesome with reconnecting 3G and it happens in less than 2 seconds.
If you care about battery, check this out. Id rather have battery last 2 days than auto syncing contacts and gmail. Plus you can setup the standard email app to check your email for you since that doesnt require push (will check email when you wake it up).

Anyone else had success with this? I have considered it but haven't pulled the trigger yet.

I tried different sync settings with time, moving between checking for emails every 15-30 minutes as well as hourly, wasn't too much of a difference. I've turned off background data, but I haven't checked to see if turning off all data works. If I can find this setting I'll definitely try it tonight

I'm going to try this in a few minutes...once I get off this call. I hate being put on hold!

Best way to save battery is to turn off 4G (run only 3G). Why would I want my data off all the time. With 3G only I get over 20 hours battery life consistently with data on.

Am I the only one that can't find this setting? I went to settings and wireless & networks but don't see always on data.Never mind I found it in mobile networks.

Click on mobile networks. It's in there.
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I guess I am lucky, I have gotten great battery life even with 4g on. I have noticed if you are in a bad 4g area that toggles to 3g a lot this will kill your battery. I live in a great 4g area and never bounce back and forth.

I've done this on all my android phones, it makes an enormous difference. Android OS keeps an always-on data session, and all the Google services are constantly talking to their servers like gmail, market updater, talk, Google voice, etc. Turn off mobile data with a toggle widget until you actually need data is by far the best way to save huge battery.
Other phones such as the iPhone do not work this way. Instead the data session only initiates when you do some thing that needs it, such as opening the web browser. After closing the browser the data session terminates. Of course push email would keep it on all the time. But stock setup does not.
Android just keeps it on all the time.

What charging bug?
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psufan5 said:
If you dont care about push email and syncing contacts (most of us arent that important) I highly recommend turning off "Always on data" in the wireless settings. This time of day I am normally around 60% battery left (sometimes less) when I have it on... with it off? Im hovering around 92% battery and my phone started at 97% this morning because of the charger bug...
Basically if you turn this off, your phones DATA radio shuts off after 10 minutes of sleep. Gtalk, Gmail, contacts, calendar will not auto-push at this point, nor will any of your other apps (but who cares the phone is off). The work around for GTalk is simple - use trillian or Beejive which utilize Google Push messaging. Basically when you wake your phone, you instantly get all the missed IMs since both chat apps save your IMs on the server until you are available to push to. Android is awesome with reconnecting 3G and it happens in less than 2 seconds.
If you care about battery, check this out. Id rather have battery last 2 days than auto syncing contacts and gmail. Plus you can setup the standard email app to check your email for you since that doesnt require push (will check email when you wake it up).
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Will have to try this out. One thing Im missing on this phone that I had on my Droidx is power profiles. I made a profile that turned off data after 30 mins. This saved a crazy amount of battery. I cant bring my phone into work, so I leave it in the car.
On the Droid X, if I let it keep the data session always on, Id be down to like 50 percent battery with the phone sitting doing nothing all day (about 9 hrs). By having the data turn off after 30 mins, the phone would be at 80 percent at the end of the day.

I replaced my texting plan with Google Voice. This isn't an option for me.
I usually just leave it on 1X if its just sitting in my pocket and I don't need speed.
Are people seeing good battery gains with all the bloatware removed? I have root but I haven't gotten around to removing the Verizon bloat
edit: Now that I think about it, 1X could be a bigger power drain than EVDO. Hmm

I have to agree no need to turn of data. Use anycut to create a toggle widget and just put it on 3g. I use my phone from moderate to heavy and am still at over 60% on battery that's better than my Droid x. Let's face it 4G eats up battery but seriously when do you need besides when downloading things or for when netflix comes out or tethering. But for just normal use I don't even notice a difference when it comes to browsing.
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this is the most retarded thread. why the f would i go and buy a smart phone that is meant for push email and fast 4g internet and disable all that ****. either live with the **** battery life, live with a thicker phone and get a extended battery or return the **** for a dumb phone.

I am not in a 4g area but with my screen brightness turned down and the HTC weather sync turned off I am easily getting a day. I noticed when I look to see what is taking the juice its mainly the screen.

ddarvish said:
this is the most retarded thread. why the f would i go and buy a smart phone that is meant for push email and fast 4g internet and disable all that ****. either live with the **** battery life, live with a thicker phone and get a extended battery or return the **** for a dumb phone.
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You turn it off for times when you know you need to save power. If I'm out drinking at the bar for 4 hours, kill data and my phone is still at 98% after 4 hours. If I turn it off during a work day I still have 85% after 9 hours. The saving is enormous.
Since its only a 1 click toggle on your home screen, it makes no sense to avoid using this advantage.
Of course 99% of the time I leave data on. But when I know I'll need it, I use it.

ddarvish said:
this is the most retarded thread. why the f would i go and buy a smart phone that is meant for push email and fast 4g internet and disable all that ****. either live with the **** battery life, live with a thicker phone and get a extended battery or return the **** for a dumb phone.
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Great post, I can see you will be a helpful addition to this community...
Back on topic, guys this phone has been out for what? 2 weeks? Relax, trust me, kernel development was great on the INC, I could easily get a day & a half out of my phone on the stock 1300mah battery. Once we get the kernel source for the TB, and the devs start to work on that, you will notice battery life improve significantly. Until then 4g is a big reason, so keep that off if you don't need it. Syncing always has been, either make it manual sync, or keep it at long updating intervals.

Great post, I can see you will be a helpful addition to this community...
ROTFLMAO!

Definitely gonna try this out.

Hi which activity in anycut do i have to use for this to conserve battery?

Nexus S battery only 10 hours?

I just got my Nexus S on April 12th, don't have many applications installed. My battery only lasts about 10 to 12 hours and I haven't been able to figure out why. I've noticed other people have much longer battery life than this. I have 3G and mobile data disabled and use only WiFi and that too only when I'm home. From the "About > Battery use" place I discovered that Display uses around 50%. I had my brightness settings set to auto always. Today I fully charged it and after an hour or so it was on 83%! I didn't even touch it. It sucks to have an awesome phone and to not be able to use its features because of fast battery drain! please help.

Check email sync ...
Check always sync ...
Check weather sync ...
Check facebook sync ...
Check all syncs
Mine can last up to 2 days
But I don't sync like crazy ...
ifreaker said:
I just got my Nexus S on April 12th, don't have many applications installed. My battery only lasts about 10 to 12 hours and I haven't been able to figure out why. I've noticed other people have much longer battery life than this. I have 3G and mobile data disabled and use only WiFi and that too only when I'm home. From the "About > Battery use" place I discovered that Display uses around 50%. I had my brightness settings set to auto always. Today I fully charged it and after an hour or so it was on 83%! I didn't even touch it. It sucks to have an awesome phone and to not be able to use its features because of fast battery drain! please help.
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my brightness is on 0% are you using any white wallpapers?
set everything to black if you can.
what about apps that auto sync? set the interval for sync to be longer

Whatever you're doing, you're doing it wrong.
Provide as much detail about apps and running services and someone can help you.

The battery will last longer if you don't use it...just saying.

j0hnZ said:
The battery will last longer if you don't use it...just saying.
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then that would defeat the purpose of the phone... just saying encore?

zephiK said:
then that would defeat the purpose of the phone... just saying encore?
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I thought you would be happy I'm spreading your message, or your quote without calling anyone's phone a whore.

j0hnZ said:
I thought you would be happy I'm spreading your message, or your quote without calling anyone's phone a whore.
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the quote had nothing to do about not using the phone. its just saying treat it well and it'll treat u back well but apparently that message is too hard to get to your head.

zephiK said:
the quote had nothing to do about not using the phone. its just saying treat it well and it'll treat u back well but apparently that message is too hard to get to your head.
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It is about using your phone, clearly you can't get that through your head. I'm not going to keep defending arguments against someone who can't understand simple concepts. Consider yourself blocked, so it doesn't happen again.

Enough hi-jacking. Let the OP feel comfortable enough to post info that will lead to help.
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j0hnZ said:
It is about using your phone, clearly you can't get that through your head. I'm not going to keep defending arguments against someone who can't understand simple concepts. Consider yourself blocked, so it doesn't happen again.
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Cool, you're just doing me a favor because I'm getting sick of you mocking me in every way possible.
Agreed with ScooterG. Pretty much johnz had a thing against me because of a previous battery thread yesterday.

How do I change sync settings? I thought all syncing was disabled when I turn it off on the widget (the one with wifi, bluetooth, etc.). I have sync turned off from there always and enable it when I'm in a WiFi range.
@zephiK I have a dark wallpaper, I'll try setting brightness to zero.
I unplugged around 8am and now its 12am here and the phone is down to 86%. only 4 hours later. And I didnt use much during those 4 hours. No texts, no calls and just 1 email after I turned sync thing on and used WiFi to browse this thread. Thats all I did. Battery use shows Display using 69%! This is not normal right?
Here are the apps I have installed.:
Adobe AIR
Adobe Flash player 10.2
Advanced Task Killer Free
Angry Birds Rio
AppBrain App Market
Barcode Scanner
BattStatt
Camera360
CamScanner
Cover Art Downloader
DanteInferno
Dropbox
ES File Explorer
Facebook
FatBooth
FlashLight
Foursquare
Fruit Slice
Goggles
gReader
HDR Camera
Live Holdem pro
Lyrics App
Mango
Market
mig33
Music (this is the leaked 3.0 version)
NinJump
Opera Mini
photoshop Express
pulse
Quick Settings
Raging Thunder 2 Lite
Sketchbook Express
Simple Calendar Widget
SMS pop
Songbird
Twitter
Wapedia
WebSharing Lite
Wifi Manager
And here are the running services.:
Settings
Twitter
BattStatt
Camera360
Songbird
Simple Calendar Widget
Google Services
Music
Maps
Android Keyboard
I read somewhere about battery training or something?

ifreaker said:
How do I change sync settings? I thought all syncing was disabled when I turn it off on the widget (the one with wifi, bluetooth, etc.). I have sync turned off from there always and enable it when I'm in a WiFi range.
@zephiK I have a dark wallpaper, I'll try setting brightness to zero.
I unplugged around 8am and now its 12am here and the phone is down to 86%. only 4 hours later. And I didnt use much during those 4 hours. No texts, no calls and just 1 email after I turned sync thing on and used WiFi to browse this thread. Thats all I did. Battery use shows Display using 69%! This is not normal right?
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I read somewhere about battery training or something?
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Well 86% after 4 hours is a great battery life! 96-86=10% It gives you (4/0.1) a theoretical battery life of 40 hours !!!
On the battery manager click on the graph to see what causes your battery life to decrease very fast: GPS, Wifi, Awake or Screen on.
I also noticed the battery meter app used quite a bit of energy you should remove it, remove also the task killer it may drain you battery as well.

I'm trying out the suggestions in this thread right now. They seem reasonable. It might be useful for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937080

josibarns said:
Well 86% after 4 hours is a great battery life! 96-86=10% It gives you (4/0.1) a theoretical battery life of 40 hours !!!
On the battery manager click on the graph to see what causes your battery life to decrease very fast: GPS, Wifi, Awake or Screen on.
I also noticed the battery meter app used quite a bit of energy you should remove it, remove also the task killer it may drain you battery as well.
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Yes! Thats great battery life! You see, after I made my first post I read somewhere that you should drain the battery completely and then do a full charge. So I kept on playing with it until the phone shut down and then plugged it in before I went to bed. I made the second post after I woke up and didn't realize that at that time the battery life has increased. I havent charged since that post and been using it, the battery is now at exactly 30%. Been running for 17 hours and 45 minutes.
I guess my problem is solved

How To Extend Battery Life

So, i managed to get 21 hours out of my battery and that was with quite a bit of usage and with the WiFi turned on all day.
I'll share what i'm running.
I'm no expert so i'm only posting what is working for me to help new people out.
Juice Defender
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.latedroid.juicedefender.beta&feature=more_from_developer
Ditch your charger - increasing battery life has never been so easy!
Always carrying your charger around? You don't need to!
JuiceDefender intelligently and transparently manages for you mobile connectivity and other battery-sensitive components, greatly improving battery life.
I have this set to aggressive.
Android Booster
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.netqin.mobileguard&feature=search_result
Android Optimizer. Make your droid faster. Save battery power. Monitor traffic
Android Booster FREE is one of the most powerful apps that can improve your Android’s performance!
You will find all the following productivity/utility solutions in this app:
Task Killer + Battery Saver + Memory Booster + Uninstaller + File Manager + Settings + Network Manager + Process Manager
These can optimize your android phone via task managers, battery manager, one-click turn on/off wifi, mobile network manager, Bluetooth manager and so on.
The Coolest thing is the Android booster Widget. It’s totally one-click optimization to manage WiFi, Bluetooth, mobile network & power display.
I placed the widget on the screen and after every use of the phone, i always click the optimize button.
APNDroid
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.code.apndroid&feature=search_result
Control your phone's internet connection. Pay less for data. Save battery life.
Prevents your phone from connecting to the internet over the mobile connection - 3G/EDGE/GPRS. Saves money for the data plan and also improves the battery life. Adds suffix to APN names and types to disable them.
I use this because i noticed that even though i connect through Wifi quite a lot, my phone is still using my data plan also. To make sure i don't use my data plan when i don't want to, i've placed the widget on the screen.
Other
Screen Brightness set to Auto
Bluetooth off unless i need it (AndroidBooster can sort this also)
Same applies to Wifi.
As i said, this is what works for me and i'm just sharing in case it helps anyone here.
Thanks
o0o Wiggy o0o

I'm not a power user.. but I'm getting ~2 days use simply by using Timeriffic with a schedule such as
11pm - turn on Airplane mode (ie. shut off all radios).. I'm in bed and dont want to hear from you
6am - remove Airplane mode
7am - enable Bluetooth while I drive to work
8am - disable Bluetooth, set ringer to vibrate
5pm - turn ringer back on, enable Bluetooth for drive home
6pm - turn Bluetooth off
rinse, wash, repeat (the 7am,8am,5pm events are only on weekdays).
There are multiple apps which support this kind of thing.

I've gone through this with every Android phone I've owned. Juice defender etc just isn't for me. In my opinion it just takes away one of the main features of having an Android phone in the first place.
With a few battery cycles, the battery life will improve. Once we have custom roms it will be even better.
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zim2dive said:
I'm not a power user.. but I'm getting ~2 days use simply by using Timeriffic with a schedule such as
11pm - turn on Airplane mode (ie. shut off all radios).. I'm in bed and dont want to hear from you
6am - remove Airplane mode
7am - enable Bluetooth while I drive to work
8am - disable Bluetooth, set ringer to vibrate
5pm - turn ringer back on, enable Bluetooth for drive home
6pm - turn Bluetooth off
rinse, wash, repeat (the 7am,8am,5pm events are only on weekdays).
There are multiple apps which support this kind of thing.
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Thanks, never heard of this app
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i found this here on xda. im gonna try it later tonight.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990

One thing that many people forget about is how often email syncs, how often you have your weather syncing, and any other apps that sync.

Menu / settings / about phone / tell HTC / remove V on both settings and i dropped down to 38ma with wifi on in standby.
5 minutes later i got 6ma.
If this is what was taking all power from the phone i will have a super phone with the best battery

NoModE said:
Menu / settings / about phone / tell HTC / remove V on both settings and i dropped down to 38ma with wifi on in standby.
5 minutes later i got 6ma.
If this is what was taking all power from the phone i will have a super phone with the best battery
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Remove V on both options? huh? I see: Report Errors to HTC checked and two dropdowns.

See if just don't get you people. If your just using your phone for bluetooth vibrate rinse not repeat etc? Wtf why do you have a Sensation 4G? It's a powerhouse phone so if your attempting to get 48 hours of battery life(which basically means your phones screen is never on) Why waste 250 on a phone. Get a dumbphone with bluetooth and your battery can last you a week. Now if your a regular person with a smart phone you simply accept that your battery life will be shot your trade battery life for perfornance. If your emails aren't syncing, facebook, twitter, weather, google music, etc. Then a smart phone is pointless. I use my phone white a bit and i've been getting about 9 hours usage with my phone which is greatttt I play angry birds every thing syncs facebook twitter gmail aim Battleheart etc you name it and I get over 9 hours on a single charge that is great.
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If you are not killing your battery in four hours or less, you are not using your phone. Lol, in my opinion.
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rawr4dj said:
See if just don't get you people. If your just using your phone for bluetooth vibrate rinse not repeat etc? Wtf why do you have a Sensation 4G? It's a powerhouse phone so if your attempting to get 48 hours of battery life(which basically means your phones screen is never on) Why waste 250 on a phone. Get a dumbphone with bluetooth and your battery can last you a week. Now if your a regular person with a smart phone you simply accept that your battery life will be shot your trade battery life for perfornance. If your emails aren't syncing, facebook, twitter, weather, google music, etc. Then a smart phone is pointless. I use my phone white a bit and i've been getting about 9 hours usage with my phone which is greatttt I play angry birds every thing syncs facebook twitter gmail aim Battleheart etc you name it and I get over 9 hours on a single charge that is great.
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Haahaa....very true!!!!
People get Obsessed with battery usage.
What is the point of having this or any superphone if your gonna cut it's balls off from day one.
If you condition the battery properly from day one, you can use it heavily and still get easily a full day....and that's more than anyone should ever ask for from a device this powerful AND beautiful

rawr4dj said:
See if just don't get you people. If your just using your phone for bluetooth vibrate rinse not repeat etc? Wtf why do you have a Sensation 4G? It's a powerhouse phone so if your attempting to get 48 hours of battery life(which basically means your phones screen is never on) Why waste 250 on a phone. Get a dumbphone with bluetooth and your battery can last you a week. Now if your a regular person with a smart phone you simply accept that your battery life will be shot your trade battery life for perfornance. If your emails aren't syncing, facebook, twitter, weather, google music, etc. Then a smart phone is pointless. I use my phone white a bit and i've been getting about 9 hours usage with my phone which is greatttt I play angry birds every thing syncs facebook twitter gmail aim Battleheart etc you name it and I get over 9 hours on a single charge that is great.
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Sorry maybe you missed the point of the thread..........
There's no such thing as a regular user as you state, everyone does things differently. The point of this thread is to contribute methods that extend maxing out our perfomance, game playing, and all productivity on our devices. If you have nothing to add besides rants and flames, I suggest you just hush, watch and learn.
Right now we can't access/disable some programs that really drain juice. So every little bit helps til we get root.

NoModE said:
Menu / settings / about phone / tell HTC / remove V on both settings and i dropped down to 38ma with wifi on in standby.
5 minutes later i got 6ma.
If this is what was taking all power from the phone i will have a super phone with the best battery
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I'm sorry, but this solution was not working.
It was down to 6ma for a while, but after some minutes it was back to draining my battery with up to 200ma in standby.
[KillaHurtz]
If your post had a like button, I would click it.

NoModE said:
I'm sorry, but this solution was not working.
It was down to 6ma for a while, but after some minutes it was back to draining my battery with up to 200ma in standby.
[KillaHurtz]
If your post had a like button, I would click it.
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What are you using to check your battery MA? I use battery monitor widget and it never shows less than 200ma and I know those numbers have to be off a bit...my battery went down 4% overnight but the widget showed 200ma the whole time! Anyone know a battery ma widget that actually works?
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jahmezis45 said:
What are you using to check your battery MA? I use battery monitor widget and it never shows less than 200ma and I know those numbers have to be off a bit...my battery went down 4% overnight but the widget showed 200ma the whole time! Anyone know a battery ma widget that actually works?
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Yes, that's the one I'm using.
But i'm not sure if it's working 100% or not.
Anyone else know?

NoModE said:
Yes, that's the one I'm using.
But i'm not sure if it's working 100% or not.
Anyone else know?
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ok i emailed the developer for battery monitor widget and he sent me an updated apk. but i think it was a simple option that he added that has seemed to fix the problem. Now im getting regular readings like 2ma and so on. i would email the developer and tell him your having the same problem as jahmezis45 and see if he can help. Hope this helps!

i have same problem with battery monitor, it is allways over 200mA

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i have same problem with battery monitor, it is allways over 200mA
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yea its reading the information from the device wrong. email the developer, email address is in his program on the android market

I dont know why I bother having a smartphone, it spends so much time in the charger, I might as well call it landline

First thing, I stopped using all battery and current monitoring apps when I realized they were a part of the problem and not part of a solution. They are simply drawing power and keeping the phone awake and are not really accurate anyways. Only actual usage time matters. Can you use it throughout the whole day with "normal" (for you!) usage patterns?
If you have something draining your battery over time, it is likely to be an app keeping the phone awake so it doesn't go into deep sleep mode.
Connect the USB cable to the phone and PC and run this command:
Code:
adb shell dumpsys alarm > AlarmDump.txt
Then have a look at the file, towards the bottom you get Stats. In here is the breakdown of what's causing the device to wake up. (h/t catnap)
The screen may be the single biggest drawer of power, so I usually suggest disabling auto-brightness and setting the brightness to a level you can work with, for me around 25% works. I also edit my build.prop and change the supplicant timer from 120 to 900 to prevent WiFi from pinging my remembered networks as often, turn off open network notification, and run the mobile network on 3G instead of 4G since it uses less power.
Some other things to do include turning off pocket mode under the sounds settings (turns off proximity detector) and disable vibrate feedback.

Sort of resolved. See last post: *Not* happy about battery life! D2G

I'll try to make this short and to the point. Can someone/anyone tell me which apps to (titanium backup) Freeze to *stop* all blur activity on this phone? I am *so* damn frustrated. My battery life sux0rs.
Some background for you: I started carrying around PDAs 10 years ago. I learned a long time back to be battery (and memory)-thrifty. The last PDA I carried was a Palm Centro.
I kicked it to the curb for the Moto Droid1. LOVED the D1. I got nice battery life out of it: after a day of moderate use (6am off the charger-11pm back on) I still had 70% battery. Yes, I had to tweak and tune it. But, not much. I still ran all day with bluetooth, 3G, wifi, and background data on. ON. I did not sync my email accounts every 30 minutes, more like every 2 or 4 hours. Social apps, manual sync only. 70% full battery at the end of the day. Texting and voice and music streaming.
The the D1 died. Known touchscreen issue. <sigh>
Move into the D2G - OW! Everyday I turn off (freeze) more apps, but there's no change to my battery life. Typically at 3pm I'm at 30 to 40% without even having used the phone other than to wake it to check the time. Grrrrr! Called VZW and they said to turn off "data enabled" in Data Manager. I did and got 90% battery at the end of the day. But what's the point of having a smartphone if you have to manually turn on features?
So, I'm on a hunt, because I think the battery-blasting perpetrator is "MotoBlur."
Am I right?
Can someone tell me which system apps are Blur? I'd like to freeze *all signs* of it.
So, I guess that wasn't short. Sorry. But I still need your help. Please.
Dan

Blur is deeply integrated into the base system. You cannot get rid of it completely. Other than that, DroidForums' Droid 2 Global section has a thread with a CWM script that freezes everything that is possible to freeze on stock.
I got up to 50 hours battery life with that without disabling mobile data or wifi.

I thank you for your reply, Gasai Yuno.
I have searched here for this thread you mentioned using a variety of search terms and I cannot locate it.
Could you post the name of the thread, please? Or a link?
Thanks!

It's a sticky.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-2-global/108937-droid-2-global-bloatware-removal-script.html

The biggest improvement I saw with battery life was using SetCpu to scale back processor speed when the screen is off. It's an old app, so there are probably better ones out there now, but it still works for me.
Comes off charge at 7am, still have 70% at 5pm.

Yesterday I started using SetCPU just to see how well it worked. Right now (12:30 am - came off charger at 9am this morning) I'm at 80% and I can't tell you how delighted I am. Mind you, it's been a very light use day for me.
Dan

I can't get through a full day on my Epic 4g, whereas my wife's completely stock D2G gets through a full day with 50% charge left. Cry me a river...

MUCH better now...
I'm now routinely getting 70%-80% remaining charge at 11pm with moderate phone use. The phone is charging from 11pm to 6:30am.
Here are all the critical settings I have tweaked/toggled.
SetCPU: I have two profiles: 1. when screen off, set cpu speed to 300meg, and 2. when battery below 30% set cpu speed to 300meg.
System settings: screen brightness - manual at 30%, GPS off. Wifi, bluetooth, mobile data toggled on. home/menu/wireless & network/mobile networks/network mode = cdma
Juicedefender Ultimate: when screen off, kill data after 15 minutes and turn off wifi after 15 unless a data transfer (>30KB) is happening and will last more than 1 minute. APN/Wifi activated 1 minute every 15.
Home/menu/data manager: data delivery/background data = on. All other toggles off. Home/menu/data manager/social applications/sync over wifi = on.
home/menu/battery manager/battery mode=performance mode
I also use: Juiceplotter (battery graphic app), and Spareparts (awesome app to monitor what apps are keeping your phone awake).
Titanium backup, frozen apps list. These are all stock apps!
3g mobile hotspot
admin notifier
adservice
amazon mp3
backup assistant
backup assistant client
blockbuster
blur.res
cardock
city id
com.motorola.photowidget
contacts unconnected
dnla
dnlasystemservice
email
email engine
emergency alert
fota
global phone auto network mode switch
global unplug
help center
home
home screen tips
inpocket
manage sim card
mediashare
motorola services
my verizon mobile
news
news and weather
nfs shift
quickoffice 3.3.67 - motorola
sim contacts
sim toolkit
skype mobile
social messaging
social messaging service
social networking
social status
swype
task manager
toggle widgets
tts service
video editor lite
visualization
voicemail
vz navigator
weather
work contacts
world clock
yahoo contacts
If anyone tries to freeze more system apps and is successful, PLEASE post them in this thread.

I rather deleted all .apk using root file explorer.

The biggest improvements ive seen have been running a rom either Angel or Hexen. It basically deletes all the ones you froze, and i run juice defender... I get about a full day w/heavy use ......

I gained some battery life running fission over stock, then I got the extended battery and underclocked the proc to 800mhz max for normal use and finally got full day battery. Now I'm running cm7 and without changing the clock speed I'm getting close to the same battery life.
The biggest gain was the extended batt. Also, using the hard clip on case with holster from the vzw store, I just leave the battery door off and it fits.

abalsor said:
The biggest improvements ive seen have been running a rom either Angel or Hexen. It basically deletes all the ones you froze, and i run juice defender... I get about a full day w/heavy use ......
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No matter what you delete, phone cannot last full day with heavy use. Unless you consider 1-2 hours screen on and data/services/everything disabled, a heavy use. Even with the extended battery.
Phone will last 12(16) hours with normal(extended) battery if on 2.4.330 firmware and in good signal coverage area with data/gps/sync/email enabled, around 30 minutes talking and up to 2 hours screen on. Which is fine and could be called moderate use. Heavy use I call 3+ hours screen on.
Mine would last about 5 hours heavy use (screen on all the time since I am doing something on the phone).

My phone is usually used as a phone, with occasional Twitter/Google+ access, and Endomondo when I'm outside. Everything enabled (WiFi, 3G, GPS, sync).
On stock 2.4.330, rooted, bloatware frozen, I get up to 40 hours on battery.

make sure u dont freeze the email engine cause da could mess up ur text messaging.
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[Q] Please Help ! Android System Battery Drain on Nexus 5 after KitKat 4.4.2 update

Hi,
The battery life of my Nexus 5 has taken a dramatic hit since the 4.4.2 update. I think the culprit is Android System but the GSAM battery graph seems to suggest that the culprit is Android OS kernel. My Nexus 5 is on 4.4.2, unrooted, stock ROM and the build no. is KOT49H.
In short, my phone does not seem to have a wakelock issue but I can't verify because 4.4 does not allow wakelock access without root. It sleeps fine at night and in daytime when it is not in use. I only lose around 5% or less overnight with 2x battery turning off the data connection and only turning on data connection once every night. The problem is the Android System which drains at least 17% (sometimes 25%) of battery everyday and routinely sits on top my of battery usage chart with or without me actually using the phone. My usage per charge is typically around 6-7 hours with around 1 hour 45 minutes screen on time. I had extraordinary battery life before the update to 4.4.2 (lasting more than 1 day with over 3 or 4 hours screen on time). Now my battery life is completely shot. The battery graphs attached already represent one of the better days. Some days the Android system will drain at 25% or more. You will note my phone relatively slept fine without draining at night in the first 7 or 8 hours and then the battery drain started to take a nose dive after I woke up. I feel that whenever I start using the phone (with the screen being turned on), the battery drain will occur. My observations are as follows:
1. I use LTE but the reception at my home and work for LTE is not good so the radio jumps between LTE and H+ from time to time however I do not think the radio jumping contributes that much to the drain. The drain stays the same even when I am at a place with good LTE reception. I use wifi at home but i cannot connect to wifi at work (which sadly is another issue). The wifi is always off unless i use it at home. I do NOT have wifi scanning in the settings. I have wifi battery optimization on. I never use bluetooth.
2. My google now is off. My location setting is completely off with no location reporting etc..
3. My Google + auto back up is off. I do not use Facebook, Facebook messenger, Instagram, snapchat etc. I mostly use Feedly, Whatsapp, Gmails and look at stock quotes every day. I seldom take pictures, videos or listen to music.
4. I only have one widget dashclock widget. I have removed feedly and stock quote widgets from the home screen but they don't seem to affect my battery usage that much.
5. I use Automateit but only have a few rules such as setting vibrate on weekdays etc.. I do not have any profiles which are related to GPS or location which i understand would drain battery. I also use Dynamic Notification, Light Flow, Lux, Nova Launcher, Notification Toggle and the memory in general is always below 65% in the background. I also use 2x battery to save battery which is set at switching off data after I turn off the screen and it will only turn data in the background every 10 minutes.
6. I have tried safe mode and 9 out of 10 times the Android system drain remains the same. The only way to lower the Android system drain (albeit temporary) is when I turn off the phone and plug it in for a charge, then turn it on when it is full and still plugged in. After I unplug it, the Android System drain will lower to say 7 or 8 % but it will slowly creep back up to 20% within an hour or so.
7. The CPU usage overlay routinely has 9 + readings on the top when the screen is turned on (but with no app running). I think it means very high CPU usage.
8. I do not think Feedly is causing any problems. I deleted the app and the drain remains. I also do not think GSAM is that useful as pointed out by another member here. It points to one app. You delete that app and then the drain remains it will point to something else.
9. I have been using Greenify (non-root) but it does not seem to help with my battery drain as the drain might be caused by system apps or processes within the OS.
I don't know what else to do and this problem has been troubling me for more than 1 month now. Please help !
Update on 24/2/2014:
I have given up and factory reset my phone. After I reset my phone, the apps were installed via Google Play automatically. I also switched to ART. It was fine initially for at least one day. The apps were there but I did not use or enable most of them as I wanted to transfer all my data and tweaked the settings in one goal. I mostly just used Feedly, Whatsapp and Maps for navigation. Even with Maps and high accuracy GPS on, the Android System would go below 10% even though it would temporarily increase to say above 20% during navigation. This morning, I thought the battery seemed ok so I enabled Lux, Dynamic Notifications, Lightflow, Automateit, Nova Launcher and restore the settings to most of the apps.
The Android System drain came back within 2 hours and hit 25% of the total battery drain. My phone's battery dropped from 100% to 40 % in less than 5 hours and the screen on time was only around 1 hour! I never did any battery intensive actions. The most was turning on the phone to check my battery and whatsapped less than 10 messages back and forth ! Since the drain re-appeared, I have turned off completely the location setting, Google Now, sync for Google Plus, auto-backup for Google Plus. I have removed all widgets and disabled Dynamic Notifications, Nova Launcher, Light Flow, Lux. The drain still remains the same at 23% or more.
This is driving me absolutely crazy and I am sick and tired of spending so much time and energy on sorting out the cause for drain (and to no avail!) I spent a lot more time on trying to fix the phone than really utilizing the phone for my benefit !! I just sent an email to the Google tech support and hope they will help instead of sending me generic self-help sheet. Thanks all for listening and trying to help. I am just really disappointed with Google this time.

Use bbs to get wakelock info.
Feedly has got to go too
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rootSU said:
Use bbs to get wakelock info.
Feedly has got to go too
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Thanks for your reply. My N5 is not rooted so I do not have access to wakelock stats anymore.
I have removed Feedly but the android system drain persists.

Not a lot that can be done without knowing the cause. Consider factory reset?
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Not a lot that can be done without knowing the cause. Consider factory reset?
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I am hoping I don have to resort to factory reset and can wait for the 4.4.3 update but I guess my patience is running out.
Thanks for your help.

My missus' LG-P880 has exactly the same problem. Just started happening one day. It seems to be wakelock locator alarms according to bbs but there doesn't appear to be any reason for it. Its been driving me mad too. Luckily tho she's rooted so using app opps i disabled Google services location and it's kinda helped
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Did you try another kernel ? When I changed to franco kernel, my battery life is better.

having weak LTE signal kills the battery but it should not be this bad.
Maybe you should try a factory reset and see if the problem still persist, if not then you have an rogue app somewhere.

You can use the process of elimination.
Start with disabling Dynamic notifications and Light flow as those have high potential for battery drain.
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Elias_grodin said:
I am hoping I don have to resort to factory reset and can wait for the 4.4.3 update but I guess my patience is running out.
Thanks for your help.
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Restart your phone in safe mode, and see the battery drainage...maybe it can help you.

It seems good for me
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I had this same problem the other night. Get app ops starter from the play store. In there turn location off in Google play services and android system. Note, this may impact other apps. I don't use any that I need location for so it works for me.
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I had a similar issue as well. For me I turned off a couple things and it really helped:
1. Turned off Cerberus, I believe checking location too often or incorrectly or something.
2. Turned off Account sync for Play Newstand. Noticed when a sync would occur, it would hang on Newstand for much too long which I think was waking device and keeping device awake during it's long syncs. Everything else would only take a min or two total.
3. Set G+ photo sync to only sync when on wifi and charging.
4. Removed Yahoo Weather app. Noticed yahoo weather app staying alive a lot too.
5. Removed Whatsapp. Probably unnecessary really, but any of those messaging/weather/location apps that I don't use often (if ever) I removed to make sure they weren't checking location in the background.
So far, I'm at 78% battery today when I would have been at around 30-40% usually, so that combo has made a huge difference.
It's going to be different for everyone I think, but basically just make sure you don't have any excess apps checking location in the background. And at least for me there seems to be something wrong with Play Newsstand sync hanging for long periods of time.

Yea... Even i had the same issues... Latest version killes ma deep sleep mode nd also some of a rules disappeared....

I was having similar issues and was able to narrow it down to syncing Google Services...
I found that often times Google Drive would get hung up when syncing in the background and chew up my battery.
What Google Services do you have set to auto-sync? I would narrow it down to the ones you only really need to have synced in the background and have the others sync up for you when you open them.
Also, in regards to your LTE/H+ signal, have you tried to flash another radio to see if there is any improvement? A poor signal can have a pretty significant impact on battery life as well.
Lastly, as mentioned by another user, Better Battery Stats, though requiring root, will make it a lot easier to track down the culprit of the issue if it indeed a rogue app somewhere.

Try different keyboard. I've a suspicion that latest Google Keyboard is the culprit.
I was having some unexplainable with BBS (no locks, etc.) battery drain. Which can only be resolved (though temporarily) with reboot.
So, I installed alternative keyboard (Swype in my case) and using it. So far, second day I don't have battery drain.

Update
Please refer to the OP for update. Thanks all.

battery after reset
After a second factory reset, I did not install a lot of the apps which I suspect have something to do with my drain - including Swype, Dynamic Notifications, Nova Launcher, LightFlow, Task Manager, 2x battery, Lux, Notification Toggle, Dash Clock, Automateit. I have also set my location to device only with no location history and history. I have also disabled Google Now. I have not restored my photos, music and videos to the phone yet. I have disabled sync for Google Plus, Google Drive etc.. I have also disabled auto back up for Google Plus. I am on ART.
The battery life (with around 25 % left) was around 6 hours 30 minutes or a bit more but with close to 2 hours 40 minutes screen on time. The screen was the biggest draw. Android system comes in second with around 13%. This is obviously better than before where I managed to squeeze maybe a hour or 30 minutes more but with 2x battery turned on in the background. I mostly used the phone for battery checking, whatsapp, Feedly, web surfing. I played games for around 20 minutes. I was not on wifi most of the time. Is this battery performance normal?
Thanks in advance.

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Elias_grodin said:
After a second factory reset, I did not install a lot of the apps which I suspect have something to do with my drain - including Swype, Dynamic Notifications, Nova Launcher, LightFlow, Task Manager, 2x battery, Lux, Notification Toggle, Dash Clock, Automateit. I have also set my location to device only with no location history and history. I have also disabled Google Now. I have not restored my photos, music and videos to the phone yet. I have disabled sync for Google Plus, Google Drive etc.. I have also disabled auto back up for Google Plus. I am on ART.
The battery life (with around 25 % left) was around 6 hours 30 minutes or a bit more but with close to 2 hours 40 minutes screen on time. The screen was the biggest draw. Android system comes in second with around 13%. This is obviously better than before where I managed to squeeze maybe a hour or 30 minutes more but with 2x battery turned on in the background. I mostly used the phone for battery checking, whatsapp, Feedly, web surfing. I played games for around 20 minutes. I was not on wifi most of the time. Is this battery performance normal?
Thanks in advance.
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I have reset the phone three times. After the third attempt, the battery drain for Android System would go back up to 20% plus. By the test of elimination, I thought I narrowed down the possible culprit to Light Flow and Dynamic Notifications. I uninstalled both of them but the battery drain remained 20% plus.
Google was willing to replace my device. I asked them whether the battery drain is likely a hardware or a software issue or a combination of both. They said (to my surprise) it is hardware issue. It seems they have come across quite a number of similar cases. I always thought it was a bug within 4.4.2 or in the google apps such as Google Play Services etc. and could be fixed by a patch or something. The phone also means a lot to me as it was a gift from my gf. I just don't want to go through the hassle of replacing the device if it is a software problem but I guess I am running out of choices unless I decide to wait for the update. What do you guys think?

It's definitely not a hardware issue. If you Google it there's threads all over the place with all different makes and models of phones having the same problem and no one can figure out why, apart from it definitely seems something to do with Google services (GmsCore.apk)
Your best option is to root your phone and use app ops and turn location access off for every app that doesn't need it. (pretty much everything apart from maps and weather apps)
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