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Hi.
I've noticed that my 1280x720 h264 48KHz AAC 2700Kbit MP4 videos that play fine on 3.1 with the hardware decoder now won't play with 3.2. I get the dreaded "Sorry, this video cannot be played" popup.
I downgraded to 3.1 and the videos play again. Went back to 3.2 and they stopped. Something has definitely got broken in 3.2. Seems to have lost either h264 or AAC hardware acceleration. This is a major break
I raised a ticket with Asus, but unfortunately got a fob off answer:
"I am sorry to hear that you are facing difficulties with your Eee Pad.
A data wipe may need to be performed. Please back up all of your personal information before proceeding."
Just to humour them I did this with 3.2 installed and it doesn't restore hardware playback. I've pinged them back asking them to escalate to the relevant engineering team. Not heard anything back so far.
The trouble is that the soft decode players simply can't handle HD files at a decent frame rate, so it's 3.1 for me until Asus fix it.
Got a further reply from Asus support:
"MX, Diceplayer, Daroon, Rockplayer (also Rockplayer lite) and Mobo players should be able to playback most of the video files."
Completely missing the point! The files playback with HW accelerated decode on 3.1, but do not on 3.2. Open and shut case IMHO.
I will persevere, but I doubt I'm going to get a straight answer. Let's just hope they put out a fix in the next update.
Eh? Moved to Q&A? This is a serious break in 3.2 here and should be in the general section surely?
Hi,
I have the same problem (and a friend of me too). I will try to downgrade my pad and I'll let you know. I think it's a serious issue with 3.2 !!
Regards,
lock042
Sorry, I can't tell you because I didn't manage to downgrade ....
I always stay on the 3.2 version.
Cheers,
lock042
Asus has replied to me saying that this is now a confirmed problem with HC3.2 (including v8.6.6.10) that should be addressed in the next release. A major break this. Shows a pretty shocking level of regression testing
Unfortunately they couldn't give me a date for the release.
Jumping in here, facing same problem.
But what I don't get is that videos recorded with the TF wont play anymore?
Im pretty sure they were playing even after I upgraded!
I find it weird that it wont play its own recorded video!
TF 101 3.2 Prime
Im curious my videos play fine but hd dosent look so hd videos play smooth but are fuzzzy
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xmod4u said:
Jumping in here, facing same problem.
But what I don't get is that videos recorded with the TF wont play anymore?
Im pretty sure they were playing even after I upgraded!
I find it weird that it wont play its own recorded video!
TF 101 3.2 Prime
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It is a very silly break. Let's hope they fix it soon. I suggest you open a ticket to apply some more consumer pressure.
After messing around with my Infuse on stock, custom Froyo and Gingerbread ROM's, I've noticed a pretty major difference between it and I9000-based phones like the Captivate: video performance.
On my Captivate, hardware-accelerated video playback up to 720p was rock solid. If it played at all, it always played smoothly, and this was regardless of running programs or RAM usage. With the Infuse, Froyo ROM's support hardware-accelerated video playback up to 1080p, but there seem to be some disadvantages.
The most major thing I noticed is that RAM usage affects video playback. If I use my phone for a while and allow the RAM to populate with background apps, I immediately run into issues trying to play video: high-bitrate 1080p video will no longer play. Instead, I just get a black screen and no sound. Additionally, several 720p videos I tested will lag heavily. Occasionally (using an app that supports both hardware and software playback like MX Video Player), playing a video will error out and force the app to switch to software decoding.
Clearing the RAM using the built-in task manager and restarting the video player immediately resolves these issues for the most part. There still are some effects that always persist though: certain 720p videos (which play perfectly on my Captivate) will still show some hints of lag using either hardware or software decoding. Additionally, I can't seek or resume playback of high-bitrate 1080p MKV's: the screen goes black and the sound stops playing. I can only play these files from the beginning for them to have video and sound.
Except for the issues specifically relating to 1080p (which don't apply to Gingerbread ROM's), all of these issues are observed and reproducible on any ROM, including stock Froyo, custom Froyo (Infused 1.6), Hellraiser + any I9000 JVQ ROM and Infused v2.2.3. This is severely disappointing, because I upgraded to the Infuse expecting a media experience equal to or improved over the Captivate with the SAMOLED+ screen. I also didn't want a Galaxy S2 because the Yamaha audio chip it uses is a dealbreaker for me.
While that was mostly a list of observations and a not-so-subtle rant, would anyone be able to offer an explanation for this? Or perhaps my case is somehow isolated? Can anyone else confirm this?
Edit: Here's a YouTube video showing the RAM usage playback issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPiCPSWUTCY
Never had any trouble with video playback. I have a couple of movies on mine. Running Infused 2.2.3
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Never had any trouble with video playback. I have a couple of movies on mine. Running Infused 2.2.3
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I'm not sure what to think of that, considering Infused 2.2.3 doesn't even support 1080p playback. But even leaving that out, would you be willing to test sample videos? I mean I can't really explain this better without posting a video of a side-by-side comparison of my Captivate and Infuse playing the same set of videos to show that the Infuse lags on certain videos while the Captivate is smooth.
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I did some additional testing. Running Infused 1.6 Froyo, I loaded up every app on my phone and then minimized them with the home key. The phone was still running smoothly and there was no signs of lag, but the RAM was as full as I could make it. I then opened the stock video app and attempted to play my library of videos.
The result? Only 2 videos played. One was a 720p H.264 MKV encoded from a Bluray, and the other was the 1080p trailer that came preloaded on the phone. Both videos lagged heavily. The rest of the videos (lower quality 720p or higher bitrate 1080p H.264 MKV's) did not play at all: just a black screen and a seek bar that didn't move. I then performed a level 2 clear using the task manager. Result: all the videos played fine without lag.
Conclusion: video playback on the Infuse is definitely tied to RAM usage, which is NOT the case on the I9000/Captivate.
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Updated main post with YouTube video demonstration.
You need to **** off.
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if you have a drop box or want to upload the problem videos somewhere ill test it to verify the results. I don't have much of a library. especially not anything high quality.
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if you have a drop box or want to upload the problem videos somewhere ill test it to verify the results. I don't have much of a library. especially not anything high quality.
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Thanks. I'm working on it, I'll send you a PM in a bit.
Edit: PM sent.
sorry to inform you but I had no issues with that video. I wonder if you may have something stuck in data somewhere (some apps keep data on the sd card) or If you may have bad blocks on your sdcard. I haven't rebooted my phone today and loaded up ram by playing flash videos in the phone browser getting ram all the way up to 340 mb used. 140 was the browser alone and I started that video just fine. ill keep testing but if I were you id back up the sd cards and wipe the phone through settings (does an internal sd format as well unlike the recovery wipe) after a flash with the unbrick and start over. if it persists id get a new phone and for the sake of being thorough I will test it more but so ar I couldn't reproduce the issues.
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sorry to inform you but I had no issues with that video. I wonder if you may have something stuck in data somewhere (some apps keep data on the sd card) or If you may have bad blocks on your sdcard. I haven't rebooted my phone today and loaded up ram by playing flash videos in the phone browser getting ram all the way up to 340 mb used. 140 was the browser alone and I started that video just fine. ill keep testing but if I were you id back up the sd cards and wipe the phone through settings (does an internal sd format as well unlike the recovery wipe) after a flash with the unbrick and start over. if it persists id get a new phone and for the sake of being thorough I will test it more but so ar I couldn't reproduce the issues.
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I'm going to return to stock using Unbrick and reformat the internal SD and try again. I don't see why there would be bad blocks though. I'm guessing the video plays smoothly without any sort of lag or hitches for you?
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I'm going to return to stock using Unbrick and reformat the internal SD and try again. I don't see why there would be bad blocks though. I'm guessing the video plays smoothly without any sort of lag or hitches for you?
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smooth as butter. sometimes weird hard to explain stuff happens. I can't explain it.
I can see how a kernel issue in gb could cause it with rogers lame firmware but I don't see the issue with infused 1.6 so it doesn't seem to be an infuse specific issue at all.
Ok, I just finished completely resetting, reflashing and reformatting my phone. On first boot, I threw that exact file I sent you back onto the memory and tried to play it. Still got a black screen with no sound or video. Opened the task manager, performed a level 2 clear and tried again. Video plays but still lags and hitches every few seconds. I mean, if I'm really the only one with this issue...???
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Ok, I just finished completely resetting, reflashing and reformatting my phone. On first boot, I threw that exact file I sent you back onto the memory and tried to play it. Still got a black screen with no sound or video. Opened the task manager, performed a level 2 clear and tried again. Video plays but still lags and hitches every few seconds. I mean, if I'm really the only one with this issue...???
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sorry looks that way. but you should have only moved the videos back for testing. i know it shouldnt matter but computers are weird. maybe it's a deficientcy in your cpu? could only apply to the gpu inside it. you just never know. if you can reproduce the error with the trailers that come on the phone and compare it to a store model maybe they'll swap it out for you. if not call customer service and raise hell or send it to samsung.
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sorry looks that way. but you should have only moved the videos back for testing. i know it shouldnt matter but computers are weird. maybe it's a deficientcy in your cpu? could only apply to the gpu inside it. you just never know. if you can reproduce the error with the trailers that come on the phone and compare it to a store model maybe they'll swap it out for you. if not call customer service and raise hell or send it to samsung.
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What do you mean only move the videos back for testing? I didn't put anything on the phone except for that video file. The CPU doesn't seem to be the issue, because I tested against my Captivate using CPU Spy: both phones run at 400MHz during video playback, which is good enough for lag-free video on the Captivate (and should be the same case for the Infuse).
I can't get much to happen with the trailers that came with the phone, because only one is HD and it's a small file with black bars and a lower bitrate than most encodes. If I leave the phone running for over a day with the memory full, I can get the 1080p trailer to lag, but that's not very helpful for getting an exchange (especially since I got my phone at Costco and there are no active models in the store).
But that's not the issue anyway. The problem is that I've been enjoying 720p video on my Captivate for over a year. Now I've upgraded to the Infuse, which is supposed to have even better video performance and its having issues with all of my 720p and 1080p videos.
I'm almost positive this isn't a hardware issue though. Are you sure the entire opening sequence of that video is smooth on your phone? It doesn't seem like you've ever seen the video before watching it on your phone. If you haven't, please watch the video side-by-side on your computer and phone and look for any differences.
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What do you mean only move the videos back for testing? I didn't put anything on the phone except for that video file. The CPU doesn't seem to be the issue, because I tested against my Captivate using CPU Spy: both phones run at 400MHz during video playback, which is good enough for lag-free video on the Captivate (and should be the same case for the Infuse).
I can't get much to happen with the trailers that came with the phone, because only one is HD and it's a small file with black bars and a lower bitrate than most encodes. If I leave the phone running for over a day with the memory full, I can get the 1080p trailer to lag, but that's not very helpful for getting an exchange (especially since I got my phone at Costco and there are no active models in the store).
But that's not the issue anyway. The problem is that I've been enjoying 720p video on my Captivate for over a year. Now I've upgraded to the Infuse, which is supposed to have even better video performance and its having issues with all of my 720p and 1080p videos.
I'm almost positive this isn't a hardware issue though. Are you sure the entire opening sequence of that video is smooth on your phone? It doesn't seem like you've ever seen the video before watching it on your phone. If you haven't, please watch the video side-by-side on your computer and phone and look for any differences.
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i meant not to restore all the files from the sd card backup when you test. just the files you want to test.
it is extremely smooth i cant seem to do anything to make it not smooth. i even bogged my phone down sequencially opening every app on the thing and returning home with the home button till it started lagging badly but when i open the video player it is butter smooth. really i cant explain your issues, im just speculating possibilities.
but ill try it on my computer as well.
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i meant not to restore all the files from the sd card backup when you test. just the files you want to test.
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I only restored one file. The video. Nothing else.
Edit: Can you tell me the build number of your Infuse (the 4-digit number under the battery, between S/N and SKU)? Mine is 1104.
oh wait there it is. the video player just stopped working.
not sure what changed but i put it on the dock and tried starting it again and no dice. i dont think this is ram related.
the issue for me is intermittent at best though. after a reboot it didnt play at first but 2 minutes later it was fine.
mine is also an 1104. april 2011 that's weird i wonder if you got a refurb. i think i picked mine up launch week.
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oh wait there it is. the video player just stopped working.
not sure what changed but i put it on the dock and tried starting it again and no dice. i dont think this is ram related.
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Hmm, I wonder if that's unrelated to the issue considering how easily it happens on my phone and how much trouble you had to go through. If the video still doesn't lag on your phone at all (when you compare it to a computer), then I'll assume you're not getting the same issue. Also, are you using the kernel that came with Infused 1.6, or did you flash another one?
infused as is right now. nothing oddball here. atleast not right now. i have used some init.d scripts on it for loopy smoothness and memory managment mods but this time it is only the rom as gtg released it with the included kernel.
ok found the issue sorta. i cant tell what causes it but if you launch the video from my files or other file manager it works fine. if you open it from video player it doesn't. the video didnt show in my video player at first so i opened it from my files. after that it was in the video list in the video player and didnt work. there is something odd going on here because video player doesnt show in recent apps if you open it from the file manager. also after opening the video player it doesnt work from my files till you kill the video player. it is just weirdness. there is some messed up programming going on here. but try killing the player and opening the file with file manager. and yes i made sure it is using the samsung video player when it asked!
sorry i asked you to wipe your phone for that but if you dont do that and use the unbrick you can see all sorts of issues and no one is sure why.
Maybe that's why mine play fine. I've never loaded a vid into the player. Just opened them bygoing to the gallery.
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infused as is right now. nothing oddball here. atleast not right now. i have used some init.d scripts on it for loopy smoothness and memory managment mods but this time it is only the rom as gtg released it with the included kernel.
ok found the issue sorta. i cant tell what causes it but if you launch the video from my files or other file manager it works fine. if you open it from video player it doesn't. the video didnt show in my video player at first so i opened it from my files. after that it was in the video list in the video player and didnt work. there is something odd going on here because video player doesnt show in recent apps if you open it from the file manager. also after opening the video player it doesnt work from my files till you kill the video player. it is just weirdness. there is some messed up programming going on here. but try killing the player and opening the file with file manager. and yes i made sure it is using the samsung video player when it asked!
sorry i asked you to wipe your phone for that but if you dont do that and use the unbrick you can see all sorts of issues and no one is sure why.
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That's an unexpected development. I've always been opening my videos from the video player, never from a file manager. How about other video players? Did you try MX Video Player? I need to use that player for my videos to see the subtitles (the video I sent you has subtitles that will display in MX Video Player and mVideoPlayer, but the former is better at displaying them).
Edit: Actually, I just tried playing the video from both the stock file manager and the Gallery app, and I still have the exact same issues as the video app :/
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That's an unexpected development. I've always been opening my videos from the video player, never from a file manager. How about other video players? Did you try MX Video Player? I need to use that player for my videos to see the subtitles (the video I sent you has subtitles that will display in MX Video Player and mVideoPlayer, but the former is better at displaying them).
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is it free?
I'm considering dropping my iPhone and moving over to the Infuse. That large screen is calling to me.
I have a Nook Color that I have rooted and installed Gingerbread on (thanks to this site) and I really like it. My first question is about Flash and Hulu.com. On my Nook I was able to install a cracked version of Flash that allows me to go directly to Hulu.com and play the videos there in browser. Is that possible on the Infuse?
And my other question was is this phone capable of 1080p playback. My old 3Gs just can't handle it and the Nook will chug along but playback is very slow. I have several videos that are 1080p that I would like to play without having to convert them all first. I saw another thread that the device could play them but not after it had been rooted. Which I guess I'll have to do if I want to play Hulu files.
Thank you.
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I'm considering dropping my iPhone and moving over to the Infuse. That large screen is calling to me.
I have a Nook Color that I have rooted and installed Gingerbread on (thanks to this site) and I really like it. My first question is about Flash and Hulu.com. On my Nook I was able to install a cracked version of Flash that allows me to go directly to Hulu.com and play the videos there in browser. Is that possible on the Infuse?
And my other question was is this phone capable of 1080p playback. My old 3Gs just can't handle it and the Nook will chug along but playback is very slow. I have several videos that are 1080p that I would like to play without having to convert them all first. I saw another thread that the device could play them but not after it had been rooted. Which I guess I'll have to do if I want to play Hulu files.
Thank you.
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Yes it has some ability to play 1080p. Actually more than some Tegra2 dual core devices.
So despite the year old processor it is still able to compete. And Samsung has been putting in multiple codec support and support for mkv sinse the original galaxy s 2 years ago. Multimedia is their area of specialty on phones. Not every 1080 p file will play but you may be able to transcode them to a lower class or bitrate or change the audio encoding which I find is most often the problem on files that don't play.
Also the browser while not the smoothest has a user agent setting accessable in the address bar by typing " about:useragent" just replace the lib for the flashplayer with one that is hex edited to look like the windows flash player and set useragent to desktop ( you can even make your own if you have issues) and clear your cookies and enjoy.
Oh. I thought Hulu had plugged that loop hole/browser trick. At least it didn't work on my Nook.
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Oh. I thought Hulu had plugged that loop hole/browser trick. At least it didn't work on my Nook.
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I thought so too but there are still people with hulu threads. I think when new versions of flash come out they need to work to identify the illegal users again. Also you need to make surecookies are cleared. And it may have something to do with the device as well. They may have a block list but some new devices may sneak through provided the flash player look right but I'm not sure what their servers can actually see.
Guess that puts me in a wait and see category. I was kinda hoping I could just install something like the CM7 mod and then a cracked version of flash like I did on my Nook. That works perfectly.
Thank you for the advice.
You should know that 1080p video playback only works on official AT&T or Froyo-based Infuse ROM's. The current Gingerbread ROM's don't have 1080p support (although the leaked KI3/4 supposedly do, they're not custom ROM's and may have other issues). Also, non-Samsung ROM's like CM7 won't have any of Samsung's hardware-accelerated media codecs (ie. MKV). Even so, playback is going to be affected by bitrate: if the bitrate of a file is too high, you'll either have problems seeking or it won't play at all. If the audio track is an unsupported format (ie. FLAC in an MKV container), you can use MX Video Player and set it to use S/W audio decoding.
As for Hulu, you should be able to get by with hex editing the version in your Flash libraries to the latest Windows/Chrome Flash version, and then setting your useragent in your phone's browser. I haven't tried this recently, but it was still working on my Captivate a month ago.
Well that's cool. If I can get Hulu to work without rooting then I'll be happy. I'll probably leave it stock then so I get the most out of video playback. Thank you very much for te help.
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Well that's cool. If I can get Hulu to work without rooting then I'll be happy. I'll probably leave it stock then so I get the most out of video playback. Thank you very much for te help.
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You'll need to root if you want to modify the Flash libraries within the system Flash apk. Otherwise, you'll have to reapply the modified Flash library every time you reboot the phone.
I've got an Infuse 4g with the "compiled CM7" ROM... I'm getting slow video playback.
The test material I'm using is a TV show, transcoded using handbrake on the iPhone 4 preset, modified for 800px screen width.
Plays smoothly on computer and on phone using MX video player on software decoding setting. Does not play smoothly in the included video player or in MX with HW decoding setting.
Is there anything I should try to fix this, or should I pick a different ROM?
I've now briefly tried both numas and zeus and have decided that I definitely want an AOSP ROM... I think. So I need to get video playback and recording working well if possible.
Maybe someone could point me towards a couple ROMs... I'll try all of them if I have to but I'd rather be able to settle down with something I like now. Here's what I want:
- Minimalism. The default android stuff is hopefully default for a reason, and that reason is that it is more stable and does what it needs with minimal consumption of resources. Basically the opposite of numas, from what I saw in the few minutes I spent on it. No offense to the dev, of course, but it's just not me. So basically, CM7 or something like it.
- No touchwiz. Me no likey. At all.
- Gingerbread, of course
- Everything should work.
These requirements are ideally fulfilled by the CM7 rom with properly working video, but for now HW playback and capture are both giving me problems.
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I've now briefly tried both numas and zeus and have decided that I definitely want an AOSP ROM... I think. So I need to get video playback and recording working well if possible.
Maybe someone could point me towards a couple ROMs... I'll try all of them if I have to but I'd rather be able to settle down with something I like now. Here's what I want:
- Minimalism. The default android stuff is hopefully default for a reason, and that reason is that it is more stable and does what it needs with minimal consumption of resources. Basically the opposite of numas, from what I saw in the few minutes I spent on it. No offense to the dev, of course, but it's just not me. So basically, CM7 or something like it.
- No touchwiz. Me no likey. At all.
- Gingerbread, of course
- Everything should work.
These requirements are ideally fulfilled by the CM7 rom with properly working video, but for now HW playback and capture are both giving me problems.
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Alright... You want gb with everything working... Lol. Go by an HTC..... YOU need to learn how to USE android. Because you can make Zeus and Numas as minimalistic or not as you want. You just have to learn. Noob.
Continuing from other thread.. Don't make battery observations of guesses til you have used it. They all take a lot of energy. A lot of it die to the screen. Never had a problem streaming any videos with default of MX
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On the playback side, I'm trying to play the video on numas and it doesn't play at all. Says it can't play it. So it must be in a bad format.
So, I'm going to switch back to CM7... Still think it has video recording problems.
try dice player. its the best. if it doesn't work try a different encoding. the infuse has a better gpu than the i4 (both from imagination texhnologies) on a similar CPU (its made by Samsung) and the 4s has a better gpu and cpu but the gpu is also from imagination technologies. the i4 settings should have no trouble on the infuse unless the iPhone has better drivers or kernel design but who knows. you might have to play with the encoding.
1. Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 wifi (SM-T520)
2. Android version: Kitkat 4.4.4
3. Official CyanogenMod 11 nightly 11-20141209
4. When I play some videos and using HW and HW+ decoder, I experience video is out of sync. It looks like there's frame dropping. Problem also exists on my Xperia V with latest CM. I use on both devices custom codecs from this forum. While using SW decoder everything is fine.
Logs are here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uqvra9vqkefynrl/report_2014-12-13_085318.zip?dl=0
Yeah, I was constantly having the same bug on my stock Android 5.01 Nexus 7 2013. HW mode is not even available for most of my high quality mkvs, while in HW+ mode playback is choppy. In the end the solution was painful, but simple: I gave up Mx player pro and returned to bs player pro. Playback is a lot smoother now with HW mode in bs player. After more than a year with mx player I must say it's an extremely overrated piece of software with a non-existant price/performance ratio. While I like a lot it when it works, it has too many annoying bugs to recommend it anymore.
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Yeah, I was constantly having the same bug on my stock Android 5.01 Nexus 7 2013. HW mode is not even available for most of my high quality mkvs, while in HW+ mode playback is choppy. In the end the solution was painful, but simple: I gave up Mx player pro and returned to bs player pro. Playback is a lot smoother now with HW mode in bs player. After more than a year with mx player I must say it's an extremely overrated piece of software with a non-existant price/performance ratio. While I like a lot it when it works, it has too many annoying bugs to recommend it anymore.
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I just checked BS Player (free version) and on my Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 it was just as choppy as MX Player. Maybe there's a bug in CM 11?
Did it previously work on older versions of your ROM? If yes, then it's likely a ROM issue.
@Mihai B mind posting the media info of the problem videos in question? Was this on stock ROM for the 2013 N7?
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Did it previously work on older versions of your ROM? If yes, then it's likely a ROM issue.
@Mihai B mind posting the media info of the problem videos in question? Was this on stock ROM for the 2013 N7?
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Yes, I am using stock Android 5.01 ROM with a Nexus 7 2013 WiFi only, 32 GB, rooted with chainfire's autoroot, stock recovery, waited for OTA to arrive, factory reset with clear cache partition after applying the update. Worth mentioning that on KitKat 4.4.4. playback was much more smoother on the same files, with the same settings in MX Player. I only have a few applications, nothing that could conflict with MX Player. Here you will find an example of a file lagging when played. Basically every high quality mkv stutters like hell. If you need a file, I can upload it somewhere.
Thank you for your help!
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Yes, I am using stock Android 5.01 ROM with a Nexus 7 2013 WiFi only, 32 GB, rooted with chainfire's autoroot, stock recovery, waited for OTA to arrive, factory reset with clear cache partition after applying the update. Worth mentioning that on KitKat 4.4.4. playback was much more smoother on the same files, with the same settings in MX Player. I only have a few applications, nothing that could conflict with MX Player. Here you will find an example of a file lagging when played. Basically every high quality mkv stutters like hell. If you need a file, I can upload it somewhere.
Thank you for your help!
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Is it happens with HW?
If it's so,
Have you tried the same video on Stock Player?
The same should happen with stock player too as HW basically uses android's standard mediaplayer interface.
So, if it stutters on HW, Possibly there might be some issues with in the rom itself.
Have you tried SW decoder?
It might work well since it's based on ffmpeg
HW mode doesn't work at all (mx player says decoder is not supported or something like this), therefore stock player is unable to play it, too. Battery drain is huge with SW mode, what's the purpose of buying applications like MX player that offer accelerated HW decoding then? But just FYI, software mode plays the file flawlessly. The ROM is the purest Android experience one can get right now, so this should not be a problem either. If HW+ mode doesn't work as it should even on stock Android, with developer previews available since months, I don't want to think what will happen with custom ROMs.
We are far away from highly compressed formats like divx, xvid or wmv, high definition content is the present and it seems Mx player with its HW+ decoder can't keep the pace.
I wrote about these problems ever since Android 5 was officially launched a month ago and still no fix was issued.
Mihai B said:
HW mode doesn't work at all (mx player says decoder is not supported or something like this), therefore stock player is unable to play it, too. Battery drain is huge with SW mode, what's the purpose of buying applications like MX player that offer accelerated HW decoding then? But just FYI, software mode plays the file flawlessly. The ROM is the purest Android experience one can get right now, so this should not be a problem either. If HW+ mode doesn't work as it should even on stock Android, with developer previews available since months, I don't want to think what will happen with custom ROMs.
We are far away from highly compressed formats like divx, xvid or wmv, high definition content is the present and it seems Mx player with its HW+ decoder can't keep the pace.
I wrote about these problems ever since Android 5 was officially launched a month ago and still no fix was issued.
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HW+ uses the same native codecs to decode. Only difference is that H/W uses android media framework and mx player uses its own media framework which itself depends on another android library. So, if any issues on codec configuration will affect both.
MX Player was working well on L preview (except the last one in which google hasn't released the sources).
Do you think your device doesn't has enough power to decode a 720p video natively?. Then, have ever thinked about why your stock player can't play the video?
Just google. MX Payer is not the only product. You will see the very large list of complaints all around the world. You are supposed to blame on Google for the semi baked ROM rather than MX Player.
Look at the article from famous Android Police Portal
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...o-playback-issues-after-updating-to-lollipop/
ktsamy said:
HW+ uses the same native codecs to decode. Only difference is that H/W uses android media framework and mx player uses its own media framework which itself depends on another android library. So, if any issues on codec configuration will affect both.
MX Player was working well on L preview (except the last one in which google hasn't released the sources).
Do you think your device doesn't has enough power to decode a 720p video natively?. Then, have ever thinked about why your stock player can't play the video?
Just google. MX Payer is not the only product. You will see the very large list of complaints all around the world. You are supposed to blame on Google for the semi baked ROM rather than MX Player.
Look at the article from famous Android Police Portal
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...o-playback-issues-after-updating-to-lollipop/
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Thank you for your answer, Ktsamy.
My device is powerful enough to play a 720p video, as in KitKat there were no problems in doing this. I know about the issues mentioned in the link you posted, but they refer to Android 5.0, and as far as I know, this is one of the reasons Google halted 5.0 OTAs, fixed some of the bugs reported by early adopters and then updated most of the devices directly to 5.01. The video issues found in Nexus 7 2013 were supposed to be fixed in 5.01.
So what has to be done? Should we all patiently wait for Google to eventually fix the native android codecs/libraries problems you say they generated in Lollipop? And while we are waiting, applications like MX Player and other similar products are right now useless for the unlucky ones who have Android L installed?
I mean: ok, we do have a problem, but what about everyone (Google, paid app developers) working on a solution instead of blaming each other?
Mihai B said:
Thank you for your answer, Ktsamy.
My device is powerful enough to play a 720p video, as in KitKat there were no problems in doing this. I know about the issues mentioned in the link you posted, but they refer to Android 5.0, and as far as I know, this is one of the reasons Google halted 5.0 OTAs, fixed some of the bugs reported by early adopters and then updated most of the devices directly to 5.01. The video issues found in Nexus 7 2013 were supposed to be fixed in 5.01.
So what has to be done? Should we all patiently wait for Google to eventually fix the native android codecs/libraries problems you say they generated in Lollipop? And while we are waiting, applications like MX Player and other similar products are right now useless for the unlucky ones who have Android L installed?
I mean: ok, we do have a problem, but what about everyone (Google, paid app developers) working on a solution instead of blaming each other?
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all lollipop devices aren't affected.
Reportedly Google is aware of this issue.
second thing, Since Google is controlling the ROM, app developers can't fix the issue lies on ROM. But, developers can look for temporary workarounds to resolve the issue. But. No guarantee that all bugs will have some workarounds.
Well, stock 5.0 ROM for Nexus devices is fine, so it might just be a recompile or other issue for 5.0.1. @bleu8888 mind taking a look to see if it's just a simple versioning issue with 5.0.1? The updated OTA was released a few days ago for Nexus devices.
CDB-Man said:
Well, stock 5.0 ROM for Nexus devices is fine, so it might just be a recompile or other issue for 5.0.1. @bleu8888 mind taking a look to see if it's just a simple versioning issue with 5.0.1? The updated OTA was released a few days ago for Nexus devices.
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CDB-Man, the problem was present on 5.00 as well. I flashed the factory image, posted info about the stuttering in the Android 5 topic, Ktsamy pointed me and others affected by this problem to the same link he provided yesterday. In the mean time Google halted the OTAs for 5.00, fixed some bugs, including the one with the video lag present on the Nexus 7 2013 and directly released OTA 5.01. Unfortunately the stuttering in playing high quality mkvs is still present in MX Player, no matter if the ROM is stock 5.00 or 5.01.
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CDB-Man, the problem was present on 5.00 as well. I flashed the factory image, posted info about the stuttering in the Android 5 topic, Ktsamy pointed me and others affected by this problem to the same link he provided yesterday. In the mean time Google halted the OTAs for 5.00, fixed some bugs, including the one with the video lag present on the Nexus 7 2013 and directly released OTA 5.01. Unfortunately the stuttering in playing high quality mkvs is still present in MX Player, no matter if the ROM is stock 5.00 or 5.01.
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If it's fixed it supposed to playable in H/W decoder or by Stock Video Player. But, none of these are working.
Can you do the following?
Long Press the video, Play using H/W decoder. if it says H/W decoder is not supported or automatically switches to S/W, close the playback. Collect the logs & upload here.
BTW, According to leaks Google is planning for another major update to 5.1 in Feb 15 to address the major bugs exists in lollipop
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CDB-Man said:
Well, stock 5.0 ROM for Nexus devices is fine, so it might just be a recompile or other issue for 5.0.1. @bleu8888 mind taking a look to see if it's just a simple versioning issue with 5.0.1? The updated OTA was released a few days ago for Nexus devices.
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As I have said already, the issue doesn't appear on all nexus devices. Most of the reports are from Nexus 7.
Thanks again, ktsamy, for your help. I was not very sure about how to collect the log, hope it is okay. It said decoder not supported, then switched to sw.
Same here on stock 5.0.1. But the same player is smooth on 4.4.4. So I guess it's Google's problem.
Ktsamy, have you found the time to check the log I have posted a few days ago?
I have an nvidia shield tablet LTE and can confirm HW+ makes video stutter on my device. Was working perfectly prior to the lollipop update. Hope Google, MX Devs or whoever can resolve the issue. Noticed that SW mode is a HUGE battery drain!
I guess it seems that Google really rushed the release of Lollipop.
Mihai B said:
Ktsamy, have you found the time to check the log I have posted a few days ago?
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@Mihai B @isamu99 @kneep
I've tried some high resolution videos on Nexus 7 2013 5.0.1 but can't reproduce this issue.
So it looks not like happening with all videos.
So I've tried download one of files having this issue -- The.Secret.Life.of.Walter.Mitty.2013.BluRay.720p.x264.DTS-HDWinG.mkv -- but it is taking forever.
Would someone send download link or torren file having enough seed?
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@Mihai B @isamu99 @kneep
I've tried some high resolution videos on Nexus 7 2013 5.0.1 but can't reproduce this issue.
So it looks not like happening with all videos.
So I've tried download one of files having this issue -- The.Secret.Life.of.Walter.Mitty.2013.BluRay.720p.x264.DTS-HDWinG.mkv -- but it is taking forever.
Would someone send download link or torren file having enough seed?
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Bleu8888, I have PM'd you with the link to the file. If you can't download it, please let me know.