Right now I've got 6 back ups of different ROMs, including a stock ROM. This seems somewhat high to me, but perhaps you guys keep more?
I use to backup every time before I flashed a ROM, and probably had a stockpile of like 4-5 backups. Then I realized those backups are worthless to me. Titanium Backup makes a backup of my apps and all other data is synced to some other system in one form or another.
The only reason I was making backups was because I thought I might need to revert back to one in the case of a bad flash. In reality, if I have a bad flash...the first thing I'm going to do is use Odin to restore to JF6 and try the flash again, NOT restore my Nandroid backup.
Once I had that realization, I saved quite a bit of time in my ROM flashing "procedures" since I didn't have to wait for a Nandroid backup to complete, and then move it off the phone to a desktop.
^ what he said
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I think the nandriod backup is mostly best used for phones like the evo. With us, we have roms and builds and kernals and modems from galaxy s devices all over the world. Sometimes clockwork doesn't save all that to the backup, so going stock is the best thing to do before reverting back.
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I've just come to that realization after a bad flash with Axura. The ROM is great, but I tried Nandroiding and doing CWM recovery and neither time did my back up work. This has happened before and I'm sure as hell glad I bought Titanium Backup. I don't regret that one bit; same goes for ROM Manager Premium.
I back up the last 3 I used .....but save some apks from earlier ROMS. I used to have all of them but there is no point in having earlier Beta ROMS that were flashed months ago and since improved. They are ususally available online anyway.
This doesntl count the original Stock ROM and 1 click Odin.....Always need that one
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^ what he said
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I think the nandriod backup is mostly best used for phones like the evo. With us, we have roms and builds and kernals and modems from galaxy s devices all over the world. Sometimes clockwork doesn't save all that to the backup, so going stock is the best thing to do before reverting back.
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^^this^^
So I can't answer that poll because there is no zero option. I've never had a nandroid backup work.
I'm wondering if there is an app that lets me quickly switch between stock kernel and custom kernel?
Or at least something easier than just reflashing kernels with CWM.
The only option you have is a nandroid backup of each. Then restore whoch ever one you want to run
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The only option you have is a nandroid backup of each. Then restore whoch ever one you want to run
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Ahh, but then I'd lose whatever settings I've made in apps, or other items between backups.
I thought I read somewhere though, that a nandroid backup does not back up the kernel, only the ROM?
It does. It depends on which version of cwm u have. And the one we use does
Mobile Odin works well. I don't see the Skyrocket explicitly supported, but maybe it's on the way.
Its not.
... a request for mobile odin support was put in by danielk425 havent heard anything aboutnitbyet though
So mabye. Im hopefull
For those that are testing roms,how do you back up your installed apps/data to load to the new rom and get up and running quickly? I have 80+ apps that I really hate to have to reinstall or have progress reset every time I try a new rom. I have TB but have seen mixed reviews here on its results. Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. I have already read the threads how to backup existing setup in case something goes wrong.
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For those that are testing roms,how do you back up your installed apps/data to load to the new rom and get up and running quickly? I have 80+ apps that I really hate to have to reinstall or have progress reset every time I try a new rom. I have TB but have seen mixed reviews here on its results. Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. I have already read the threads how to backup existing setup in case something goes wrong.
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Make a CWM backup. Install new ROM, then go to Backup and Restore, go to advanced restore, then select the backup you made, and select restore data. That will bring back all of your apps/setting and such.
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Make a CWM backup. Install new ROM, then go to Backup and Restore, go to advanced restore, then select the backup you made, and select restore data. That will bring back all of your apps/setting and such.
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Exactly how I do it!
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Thank you. I thought cwm was only to put back to the way I started like a windows image file.
ed20910 said:
Thank you. I thought cwm was only to put back to the way I started like a windows image file.
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I apologize, I misunderstood your question......
I used CWM when I went from stock rooted 2.3.5 to stock rooted 2.3.6 to restore all my apps. I'd imagine there could be some issues if you used CWM in the same manner when going from stock rom to say RebelROM so for that I'd use MyBackup. I prefer it over TB any day. So use MB to make your backup of your apps (apk's and data) before flashing the new rom, flash the new rom and then once you get MB on your phone again use it to restore the apps, apk's first then data after all the apk's have been restored.
Sorry for the confusion
I use Rom Toolbox...it works quite well
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For those that are testing roms,how do you back up your installed apps/data to load to the new rom and get up and running quickly? I have 80+ apps that I really hate to have to reinstall or have progress reset every time I try a new rom. I have TB but have seen mixed reviews here on its results. Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. I have already read the threads how to backup existing setup in case something goes wrong.
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I just tested a theory i had and it worked flawlessly. I just flash supercharged v5 and before i did i just wiped cache and dalvix and formatted system, i did not do a factory data reset. I then flashed the rom and everything went flawlessly. I still have all my apps and data from before the flash.
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Hey guys! I just bought the Galaxy S3 and I'm really loving it so far. However, it is my first Android device, so I'm still pretty new to all this rooting, flashing, ROM, etc. All I know is that rooting is similar to jailbreaking in iPhone (which I understand pretty well and use to do all the time) in that it allows you to do things you wouldn't originally been able to do. Because of that, I decided to root my Galaxy S3 following a Youtube video, which turned out really well and was pretty simple. After that, I watched another video to "flash a rom" (I think that's how you say it...) and installed CyanogenMod 10. I wanted Jelly Bean over TouchWiz ICS, so I'm liking it so far. Everything runs smoothly and that Project Butter is uh-mazing! However, I think I've noticed some bugs. For example, the camera's exposure settings don't work and every once in a while, my home button doesn't respond when I'm trying to wake it up from lock! I actually had to pull my battery out yesterday because it wouldn't respond and just froze ...Is there anyway that I can fix this? My Dolphin Browser doesn't play flash anymore too, but that's a little fine with me, since the stock browser is able to. And also, I noticed that when I flashed the rom, it pretty much wiped my phone clean, so is there a way to install all my apps and data back the way I wanted previously? I heard about somethings like Titanium Backup, but then I'm also confused about what the hell all that custom backup and recovery and ClockWork Mod and Rom Mananger is about ...Is it also ok that I installed Apex Launcher after getting CyanogenMod 10? I like how I can still customize it and whatnot.
Sorry for making this post so lengthy! I'm just really excited and curious about how all of this works. It's definitely a lot more complex (but a ton more fun and interesting! ) than just jailbreaking an iPhone. I've looked around the forum and have read some 101 Basics, but it's still quite a lot to understand all in one day. Anyways, if anyone can please provide some feedback, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you! :laugh:
I was using SynergyRom v1.7 for a few days but was really laggy on my device. Ive since switch over to CleanRom 2.0 SP1 running CleanKernel 1.0, using CWM 6.0.1.0 recovery, and so far seems to be running alot smoother and faster than Synergy. The only problem ive found with it is the Rom comes with the cpu set up to 1.9 Ghz even when I have it set at 1.5 on SetCPU, and if im putting a heavy load on my device, the back gets pretty warm. There is a post I remember seein something about that issue but cant find it.
If you would like to give this ROM a try, you can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832070
The current version of cm 10 is nightly is not done and there is bugs. the only thing I got was the wake up thing but it never froze for me.
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fr8cture said:
The current version of cm 10 is nightly is not done and there is bugs. the only thing I got was the wake up thing but it never froze for me.
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So your's doesn't wake when you push the home button too?! Thought it was just me...And do you know when CM10 will be fully stable? Or are there other roms out there that are?
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So your's doesn't wake when you push the home button too?! Thought it was just me...And do you know when CM10 will be fully stable? Or are there other roms out there that are?
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I'm not using cm 10 anymore but try waking it with the power button, I'm currently using paranoid android and don't have the problem and its based off cm10
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And also, I noticed that when I flashed the rom, it pretty much wiped my phone clean, so is there a way to install all my apps and data back the way I wanted previously? I heard about somethings like Titanium Backup, but then I'm also confused about what the hell all that custom backup and recovery and ClockWork Mod and Rom Mananger is about ...Is it also ok that I installed Apex Launcher after getting CyanogenMod 10? I like how I can still customize it and whatnot.
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welcome! i'm still a noob too but customizing and flashing roms is definitely a whole lot of fun. A few things:
before you continue I suggest that you backup your IMEI if you have not done so. There are currently 3 methods to doing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852255
you can do all 3 methods just to make sure you are safe.
TitaniumBackup is an awesome program that can save your apps and their data, your contacts, your sms, all to your SD card so that when you need to wipe your data clean you can easily restore all your apps and such again. There is a free version in the appstore that I think is a must have.
ClockworkMod is a custom recovery for our device and basically what we use to flash new roms and kernels. Also we can create Nandroid backups (basically a snapshot of our system that we can restore at a later time) through CWM.
As for launchers you can feel free to use Apex, Nova, Holo, any of these launchers with the different Roms. They will generally come pre-loaded with one but if you have a preference you can just install that launcher and set it as the new default.
Welcome to Android and xda!
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welcome! i'm still a noob too but customizing and flashing roms is definitely a whole lot of fun. A few things:
before you continue I suggest that you backup your IMEI if you have not done so. There are currently 3 methods to doing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852255
you can do all 3 methods just to make sure you are safe.
TitaniumBackup is an awesome program that can save your apps and their data, your contacts, your sms, all to your SD card so that when you need to wipe your data clean you can easily restore all your apps and such again. There is a free version in the appstore that I think is a must have.
ClockworkMod is a custom recovery for our device and basically what we use to flash new roms and kernels. Also we can create Nandroid backups (basically a snapshot of our system that we can restore at a later time) through CWM.
As for launchers you can feel free to use Apex, Nova, Holo, any of these launchers with the different Roms. They will generally come pre-loaded with one but if you have a preference you can just install that launcher and set it as the new default.
Welcome to Android and xda!
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Thanks for replying! Sorry for asking, but what is an IMEI and why should I back it up? And what is the difference between a Nandroid backup and a Titanium backup?
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Thanks for replying! Sorry for asking, but what is an IMEI and why should I back it up? And what is the difference between a Nandroid backup and a Titanium backup?
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Nandroid Backs up your whole system and Titanium just backs up your apps and app data, Not exactly sure what a IMEI is but if you don't have it you wont have any service.
an IMEI is a code unique to your device that allows your phone to be identified by your provider. Without it you won't have a phone signal nor data. You should back it up as it has been reported that rarely users can lose their IMEI upon flashing a rom.
The devs have been hard at work at learning what triggers this to happen and ways we can get rid of the problem altogether but until then, it's wise to backup the IMEI and save the backups in a safe place.
Most have lost their Imei when flashing aosp roms but not all. Some have reported it with touchwiz roms as well.
The are 3different methods to back it up though not 100% .
All are featured in development section.
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Thanks for replying! Sorry for asking, but what is an IMEI and why should I back it up? And what is the difference between a Nandroid backup and a Titanium backup?
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International Mobile Equipment Identity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment_Identity
CleanRom 2.1 just came out today in case anyone is interested...im gonna install it and give it a shot...heard it was much more stable and smoother than v2.0 which im running now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832070
nighthawk34691 said:
CleanRom 2.1 just came out today in case anyone is interested...im gonna install it and give it a shot...heard it was much more stable and smoother than v2.0 which im running now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832070
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How's the new rom? And if I want to install this new rom, do I just do the same thing I did with CM10 (flash, backup, recovery, etc.)?
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Nandroid Backs up your whole system and Titanium just backs up your apps and app data, Not exactly sure what a IMEI is but if you don't have it you wont have any service.
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Where is everything backed up to? Like say I want to flash a bunch of roms, and later decide to go back to my stock rom, what do I do?
All nandroid backups (cwm) by default are saved to the root of the internal SD card. They typically are small compressed files and really no need to ever move them, though you can have as many as you want, just label and sort them in cwm app.
Titanium defaults to internal SD (again root file that won't be wiped when wiping data), but you can easily change this location to your external to make you feel safer.
Same deal with rom zip files, if you drag and drop through your desktop, you can drop on either sd card or external. If you download through your phone it will be on internal in downloads file, safe from a wipe. You can then move if needs be using a file explorer app. Just remember your location when flashing so you can find your zip in recovery.
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All nandroid backups (cwm) by default are saved to the root of the internal SD card. They typically are small compressed files and really no need to ever move them, though you can have as many as you want, just label and sort them in cwm app.
Titanium defaults to internal SD (again root file that won't be wiped when wiping data), but you can easily change this location to your external to make you feel safer.
Same deal with rom zip files, if you drag and drop through your desktop, you can drop on either sd card or external. If you download through your phone it will be on internal in downloads file, safe from a wipe. You can then move if needs be using a file explorer app. Just remember your location when flashing so you can find your zip in recovery.
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Ahhh ok. So I'm pretty sure that I did a nandroid backup. So if I want to go back to my old rom, do I just reboot into recovery and click restore or something like that?
That's it. I have several nandroid backups of various rom's and configurations that I can then choose from in recovery. Just remember that if one of your recoveries is original stock (which you should have done), just remember that after flashing that backup, you probably will need to reinstall cwm or similar recovery. You won't need to do that with anything other than stock. I'll do my best to answer any other questions, and please tap the thanks button if this helped!
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That's it. I have several nandroid backups of various rom's and configurations that I can then choose from in recovery. Just remember that if one of your recoveries is original stock (which you should have done), just remember that after flashing that backup, you probably will need to reinstall cwm or similar recovery. You won't need to do that with anything other than stock. I'll do my best to answer any other questions, and please tap the thanks button if this helped!
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Oh ok. But if flash the stock rom, will it wipe my phone clean, or will I stay rooted? And do roms take up a lot of storage? I had quite a lot of free space, but after CM10 I lost about 1-2 gb I think.
Yes, roms do take up alot of storage, so its a good idea to put the zip files on your external sd card to keep your internal as free as possible, especially if you have multiple roms that your playing around with. As far as flashing stock, if you mean restoring your stock rom from a backup in recovery mode, then the answer is yes to staying rooted, and no to wiping it clean. It will be in the same state that your phone was in when you made the backup. However, if you flash on an original stock rom it can unroot you and wipe everything depending on how its flashed in. This method really should only need to be done if a backup was not made of your stock rom, or if you have bricked your device in some manner.
Oh okay. So I should be fine then. Which rom do you recommend for this S3? I'm trying to find one that is really stable and is hopefully jelly bean. I'm looking at CleanRom right now, because I like how it incorporates some touchwiz, but I think it's ICS?
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i have CM10 and android 4.1.2 on my one x (att), i want to upgrade to 4.2.2.
if i install the new rom and gapps do i need to flash a new boot.img or will the one i have still work?
also what is the best way to restore my settings to the new version? i spent lots of time setting this phone up with and and i'd prefer to migrate as much as possible. I would appreciate if if you treated me as a newbie with the migration and are descriptive in your response as i have never done this before.
TIA
You can probably find out more about upgrading from CM10 to 10.1 by looking through the 10.1 thread. I'm almost entirely a Sense person, so I can't speak specifically to this situation (moving from CM10 to 10.1). But seeing as you are moving from one Android build to another, I'd assume you need to treat it as moving to a "new" ROM. I would also bet that you need to flash boot.img again. It only takes a minute to do, so why bother even trying to skip that step?
In general, if moving from one ROM to another, you should wipe user data, and not migrate system data, and migrate as few settings as possible. Migrating system data is almost sure to cause serious bugs, and migrating settings can be problematic also.
Recommend using Titanium Backup to migrate apps and data (but not system data), and if you get the paid version, its well worth the couple dollars to get the batch function (can backup and restore all your user apps with just a couple taps).
Do any other backing up you want to do (I like to backup my text messages by using the app SMS Backup+). And if you like, use TWRP to make a nandroid backup, in case you want to revert to your current ROM.
Then before flashing CM10.1 factory reset only within TWRP (factory reset in hboot will corrupt your SD card). Factory reset will wipe any user data (but should leave the internal SD untouched). So be sure to backup anything you want to keep, beforehand. Then wipe Dalvik and cache, also within TWRP. Then flash the ROM, boot.img and gapps. Then startup the ROM, restore your apps with Titanium. Then setup your homescreen and settings to your liking. Some people also like to migrate WiFi and Bluetooth pairings (I think Titanium will do it). Especially handy if you have a lot of pairings. But I don't have many pairings, and migrating them never seemed to work right for me, so I just do it manually.
Really, setting up from scratch is not that hard. With the help of Titanium, I can be back up and running in about 20 minutes.
You shouldn't have to flash a new boot just flash the new Rom over the old one. As long ast there there both cm something your good. But make a backup in recovery just on case
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As long ast there there both cm something your good. But make a backup in recovery just on case
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I don't think you mean that literally. If you were to go from CM9 to CM10, and not flash the kernel, I don't think that would work.
Even going from CM10 to CM10.1, it would require the kernels being the same, or at least similar enough to not cause any problems. Have you tried this yourself, or read others tried it on the CM thread?
Are you sure you aren't thinking of just going from one nightly to another?
Also assume the OP is hboot 1.14 or higher, and S-on. Otherwise flashing boot.img separately is not an issue at all.
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I don't think you mean that literally. If you were to go from CM9 to CM10, and not flash the kernel, I don't think that would work.
Even going from CM10 to CM10.1, it would require the kernels being the same, or at least similar enough to not cause any problems. Have you tried this yourself, or read others tried it on the CM thread?
Are you sure you aren't thinking of just going from one nightly to another?
Also assume the OP is boot 1.14 or higher, and S-on. Otherwise flashing boot.img separately is not an issue at all.
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thanks for the relies, i backed it all up this morning and tried to flash the latest nightly and the htc screen just hung, so im guessing i need to flash the boot.img, i need to do that home where i have the android sdk tools installed.
as far as migrating the data, im guessing that's not practical with what appears to be two separate builds... sigh, the 10.1 night came out a week after installed cm 10. oh well at least im not still waiting for slow ass ATT to get me the update.
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thanks for the relies, i backed it all up this morning and tried to flash the latest nightly and the htc screen just hung, so im guessing i need to flash the boot.img, i need to do that home where i have the android sdk tools installed.
as far as migrating the data, im guessing that's not practical with what appears to be two separate builds... sigh, the 10.1 night came out a week after installed cm 10. oh well at least im not still waiting for slow ass ATT to get me the update.
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Sorry I come from sense based roms but I have a feeling you haven't heard of flash gui. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453617
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