Hey guys. I have a question about rooting. My brother wants me to root his charge and its a little different than the process I used to root mine. I think I understand the process but I have a couplenof questions.
First, it is my understanding that you need a custom kernel to gain root. I'm not familiar with kernels because I didn't need one to root my phone.
Second, do I need to flash cwm first, or the custom kernel first?
Thanks for any help.
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jrf28 said:
Hey guys. I have a question about rooting. My brother wants me to root his charge and its a little different than the process I used to root mine. I think I understand the process but I have a couplenof questions.
First, it is my understanding that you need a custom kernel to gain root. I'm not familiar with kernels because I didn't need one to root my phone.
Second, do I need to flash cwm first, or the custom kernel first?
Thanks for any help.
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not necessarily, is he gonna stay stock rooted or stock with custom kernel...? if you only want root odin CWM, boot straight into it and flash superuser as an apk otherwise do the same but flash the kernel of your choice which will convert your partitions to ext4 and also root you
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anoninja118 said:
not necessarily, is he gonna stay stock rooted or stock with custom kernel...? if you only want root odin CWM, boot straight into it and flash superuser as an apk otherwise do the same but flash the kernel of your choice which will convert your partitions to ext4 and also root you
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Great. Thank you for the info.
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I updated through the LG tool and lost root access. Now I want to flash the build that has root built in. Can I flash NVFlash without root access. I assume I can but all the tutorials say to have root before flashing NVFlash. Does CWM require root access for me to flash a custom rom?
I know im not much help but im assuming you cant...seems like everyone's having problems, especially with superoneclick, after they updated...im glad i didn't update....yet ....
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Yes, you can nvflash cwm recovery without root.
Thank you very much for answering.
Do I need to be rooted to flash a custom rom?
Pimpshouse said:
Thank you very much for answering.
Do I need to be rooted to flash a custom rom?
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no
Hey guys. My laptop recently took a crap and is no longer working. is there a way to flash roms without being rooted and having no computer?? i doubt it but i figured id ask... Thanks.
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brandon2x said:
Hey guys. My laptop recently took a crap and is no longer working. is there a way to flash roms without being rooted and having no computer?? i doubt it but i figured id ask... Thanks.
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You can flash ROMs without a computer although it's usually not recommended to download ROMs on your phone because it's too easy to get a bad download.
No you cannot flash ROMs without being rooted, ever.
spc_hicks09 said:
You can flash ROMs without a computer although it's usually not recommended to download ROMs on your phone because it's too easy to get a bad download.
No you cannot flash ROMs without being rooted, ever.
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well wouldn't you at least need CWM which has to be flashed to the phone? you could try Rom Manager as a longshot to get CWM and flash the stuff you need but be warned, make backups as it doesn't work well with the Charge.. I probably wouldn't risk it without a pc to restore your phone
and I believe you can flash a rom without being rooted afaik
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anoninja118 said:
well wouldn't you at least need CWM which has to be flashed to the phone? you could try Rom Manager as a longshot to get CWM and flash the stuff you need but be warned, make backups as it doesn't work well with the Charge.. I probably wouldn't risk it without a pc to restore your phone
and I believe you can flash a rom without being rooted afaik
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Yeah you have to have some type of Recovery to be able to flash ROMs, which means you have to be rooted. I was just telling him that if he IS rooted, it's possible to flash a ROM without a PC.
brandon2x said:
Hey guys. My laptop recently took a crap and is no longer working. is there a way to flash roms without being rooted and having no computer?? i doubt it but i figured id ask... Thanks.
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Just go to a library or something and flash a kernel and CWM. All ROMs can be flashed on CWM, and the rooted kernel just prevents CWM being overwritten with the stock recovery. The only thing you can't flash with CWM is radios and newer versions of CWM. But be warned, if you bootloop you're SOL until you can get to another computer.
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Ok just got this phone and have decided to go with Phoenix Blood rom, but how do i start? I have to be on froyo to root? Im coming from samsung epic on sprint that i flashed so im not completely retarded. Thanks for any help
Use superoneclick to root on froyo.
If your on 2.3.3 gb there's a flashable. Zip in development section to root.
Also you will want to use tgagunnmans nvflash method to install clockworkmod recovery in dev section.
Phoenix blood is a great choice btw, enjoy!
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You're still on Froyo? To my understanding it's a good idea to flash the OTA GB first so that you'll get the up to date baseband. Once that's done just go ahead and flash PB.
no im on gb jsut thought i had to go back to froyo to root, so i just flash clockwork mod then pb and thats it?
reeshmd23 said:
no im on gb jsut thought i had to go back to froyo to root, so i just flash clockwork mod then pb and thats it?
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Yes, but make sure you're using NVFlash to get CWM. Don't use Rom Manager.
Easiest way is using the tool unlockroot. It supports gb on the G2X. Or you can use nvflash, whichever you prefer.
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redmonke255 said:
Easiest way is using the tool unlockroot. It supports gb on the G2X. Or you can use nvflash, whichever you prefer.
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If he wants to change Roms he will still need Nvflash regardless how he gets it rooted.
GTWalling said:
If he wants to change Roms he will still need Nvflash regardless how he gets it rooted.
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Agree. Nvflash=bullet proof.
what is nvflash?
reeshmd23 said:
what is nvflash?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
From that thread:
Flashing the custom recovery using NvFlash is the only way to ensure that in the case your phone will not boot up, you will be able to get into recovery to fix the issue / flash a ROM / restore from nandroid backup. That is what this app will do for you.
If you flashed the ClockworkMod recovery from ROM Manager it does not flash the recovery to your phone, it fake flashed it. The only way you can gain access to ClockworkMod recovery is through ROM Manager at that point. Using this method is the only way to flash recovery so it is persistent and accessible booting to recovery.
If you have already flashed through ROM Manager you can still proceed with this method. Flash Away!
(You can use both ROM Manager CWM and have the nvflashed version working together. You just access either or one at a time, having the nvflashed one means you can boot to CWM. Welcome to Tegra2)
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Follow the link. This is a must for tegra 2 based phones. It is always better to be safe than sorry and it also allows you to do a ton of other things, such as making backups and flashing roms. Let us know if you need help. The phone is pretty much unbrickable after you do this. It gives you the ability to recover from any major mistake.
Its in the dev thread, it low level flashes clockworkmod recovery to our phones internal memory partition. You need to install apx drivers first in order for the g2x to be nvflashed.
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thanks for the help guys got it all set up
Just to add in, nvflash allows u to boot into cwm recovery whenever u want and u don't need to be next to a computer. I think that is how it worked for Samsung phones and Odin, where u needed a computer, but haven't used a Samsung phone so I could be wrong. Remember always make a back up of everything and play around with the different roms, not every rom works for everyone
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Actually Odin is just like nvflash. It is used to put cwm on you phone and to put the stock recovery back on.
Once you have cwm you can flash what ever rom or kernel without the need for root. Just back up your stock unrooted stock rom before flashing anything else.
If you do that you will have your own stock backup with no need of finding it in the forums if you need to go back to stock.
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Hey guys,
Finally got around to working on my phone. I have a question. I've been following this guide here to the letter. But I skipped step 1 as I thought rooting was only for 2.2 Froyo G2x owners as mine's already been updated to 2.3. Do I still need to root it to flash CWM while I'm logged into my phone??
Thanks in advance!!
If flashing cwm via nvflash doesn't work then you'll need to root first, it's been quite some time since I last did this, but I'm pretty sure all you need to do is flash cwm using nvflash and then install the rom of your choice
jj_z1 said:
If flashing cwm via nvflash doesn't work then you'll need to root first, it's been quite some time since I last did this, but I'm pretty sure all you need to do is flash cwm using nvflash and then install the rom of your choice
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Followed the guide here and flashed the root file.
One last question. Can I install roms and kernels from rom manager, or do i do both from cwm?
zeth006 said:
Followed the guide here and flashed the root file.
One last question. Can I install roms and kernels from rom manager, or do i do both from cwm?
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I honestly never tried to install roms, or kernels, from rom manager, I think you need to buy the premium app to be able to do so. Either way, it's always safer to flash from cwm since you can wipe everything you need to from there (ie. cache, dalvik cache, system, and data) which is very important when flahing different roms, and kernels
jj_z1 said:
I honestly never tried to install roms, or kernels, from rom manager, I think you need to buy the premium app to be able to do so. Either way, it's always safer to flash from cwm since you can wipe everything you need to from there (ie. cache, dalvik cache, system, and data) which is very important when flahing different roms, and kernels
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Okey dokes. Off to try it out.
jj_z1 said:
I honestly never tried to install roms, or kernels, from rom manager, I think you need to buy the premium app to be able to do so. Either way, it's always safer to flash from cwm since you can wipe everything you need to from there (ie. cache, dalvik cache, system, and data) which is very important when flahing different roms, and kernels
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Just to reiterate, on this particular phone it's not the best idea to flash with rom manager at all. Always go with cwm.
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Super One Click has been updated with a new exploit that can root the G2X Gingerbread without flashing CWM Recovery. Get the new version of Super One Click and root it that way. Or flash CWM Recovery and then flash my root zip.
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Super One Click has been updated with a new exploit that can root the G2X Gingerbread without flashing CWM Recovery. Get the new version of Super One Click and root it that way. Or flash CWM Recovery and then flash my root zip.
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Cool. I'll do that with the next phone I get, haha!
I will get my 2nd g2x in 4 days. Looking for guide for s-off,root,super Cid I'm guessing flashing a rom is just like any other phone. Has anyone ran an ics rom on their g2x?
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hardrockinandroid said:
I will get my 2nd g2x in 4 days. Looking for guide for s-off,root,super Cid I'm guessing flashing a rom is just like any other phone. Has anyone ran an ics rom on their g2x?
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ICS for G2x is a work in progress. I believe CM team is working on it.
First i s-off with revulutionary and i cant do root. Secon question if i root my phone but not install custom room will i be able to update my phone with ICS via OTA when its realase. Thanks
Your first question is lacking detail. Second, upon installing a custom rom, you abandon OTA updates for better, custom roms. That being said, just wait for one of our talented devs to build their ICS roms off the official release, which will only be a day or two after the official release.
you will be able to get ota update if you are root. but after ota update u may lose your root.
goggi10 said:
First i s-off with revulutionary and i cant do root. Secon question if i root my phone but not install custom room will i be able to update my phone with ICS via OTA when its realase. Thanks
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You need to flash custom recovery and superuser to get root access. Now for ota you need stock recovery so even if you run rooted stock Rom you can't install ota update. You need to run ur ruu then install stock Rom with recovery to get any ota update.
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jasminthoria said:
You need to flash custom recovery and superuser to get root access. Now for ota you need stock recovery so even if you run rooted stock Rom you can't install ota update. You need to run ur ruu then install stock Rom with recovery to get any ota update.
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If anyone runs Stock rooted RUU ( coz to root , custom recovery is not mandatory) , he will be able to get OTA update.
musarraf172 said:
If anyone runs Stock rooted RUU ( coz to root , custom recovery is not mandatory) , he will be able to get OTA update.
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If you don't install custom recovery. Or don't want to change any Rom or anything in ur phone what is the point of rooting. In my opinion then better not to root at least u don't void warranty.
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jasminthoria said:
If you don't install custom recovery. Or don't want to change any Rom or anything in ur phone what is the point of rooting. In my opinion then better not to root at least u don't void warranty.
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He he, there are many reason for which I wan to be root even on stock. like I want to use titanium backup, to install custom boot animation and sound, to use addfree, to use root explorer, to use samba, to use SD Speed boost, to use Wifi adb, and many more.
musarraf172 said:
He he, there are many reason for which I wan to be root even on stock. like I want to use titanium backup, to install custom boot animation and sound, to use addfree, to use root explorer, to use samba, to use SD Speed boost, to use Wifi adb, and many more.
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That's good but still doesn't serve the full purpose of rooting. Any way let's cut the chase its all personal choice, you like it that way while I like it other way.
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That's good but still doesn't serve the full purpose of rooting. Any way let's cut the chase its all personal choice, you like it that way while I like it other way.
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Anyway staying apart from chase , I would tell you that I do use custom ROM (you can see from my signature). But to install custom ROM on sensation , you need not to be root . At least it is not mandatory. What is mandatory is you must be S-OFF and a custom recovery installed. To install custom recovery you again need not to be root. In fact I already have replied someone on how to install custom recovery without being root.
And once you have custom recovery installed and you are S-OFF you can install any ROM of your choice depending on your firmware.