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[Q] HTC Maps on MyTouch 4G?

So I want to use a navigation app on the MyTouch 4G without using any data. If I'm not mistaken, the Google Navigation app uses data to download the map of your current location. The new HTC Sense maps (again if I'm not mistaken) are saved on the phone and don't use data. So my question is if I can get the HTC maps on the MyTouch 4g (specifically without having to root the phone and flash the new Sense rom onto it)?

What's the point of using a mthd without data? Really just defeats the purpose of having this kinda phone if you ask me... Just my opinion though
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^ What he said!

They build HSPA+.....
what you were sayin' ...? ))
But, srsly, I see were you coming from....I would rather store my maps on SD so it can be cached faster, especially for "out of 3G/4G range" towns

Its not that I don't want to use data with the phone, I do. Its just that I am considering switching to the cheaper limited data plans that T-Mobile will roll out in the near future. So thats why not using data for the nav would be great.

ArcticWolf91 said:
Its not that I don't want to use data with the phone, I do. Its just that I am considering switching to the cheaper limited data plans that T-Mobile will roll out in the near future. So thats why not using data for the nav would be great.
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The "limited" data plan will only work with certain phones. The mt4g will be a premium device that will require the unlimited data plan.
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Yeah but I'm using a G1, so I can just use that to get the new data plan, then I will buy the MyTouch 4G off-contract and swap the sim.

ArcticWolf91 said:
Yeah but I'm using a G1, so I can just use that to get the new data plan, then I will buy the MyTouch 4G off-contract and swap the sim.
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Tricky fellow! LOL! J/K
Sounds like a good idea.

If you're trying to avoid getting the unlimited plan by pretending you're still using your G1, it won't work. They have a database of all the IMEI #s and the IMEI of the phone you're using gets transmitted, so they can see what you're using.
Back on AT&T, I bought a used iPhone (original model) and spoofed the IMEI to avoid having to pay for the iPhone data plan. Not sure if you can do this on Android.
You can see what I'm talking about by going to your T-Mobile account online and somewhere it should say which phone you're using. If you switch to another T-Mobile phone, it'll change. Carriers only have the IMEI #s of the phones that are branded by them. So if you put your T-Mobile SIM in an AT&T or unlocked, unbranded phone, it wouldn't show that phone under your account.

Product F(RED) said:
If you're trying to avoid getting the unlimited plan by pretending you're still using your G1, it won't work. They have a database of all the IMEI #s and the IMEI of the phone you're using gets transmitted, so they can see what you're using.
Back on AT&T, I bought a used iPhone (original model) and spoofed the IMEI to avoid having to pay for the iPhone data plan. Not sure if you can do this on Android.
You can see what I'm talking about by going to your T-Mobile account online and somewhere it should say which phone you're using. If you switch to another T-Mobile phone, it'll change. Carriers only have the IMEI #s of the phones that are branded by them. So if you put your T-Mobile SIM in an AT&T or unlocked, unbranded phone, it wouldn't show that phone under your account.
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All of the above is true... Sold phones for years at radioshack...

Well it doesn't matter anyway because the new data plans will be available for all phones. From the leaked(?) document: "T-Mobile will respond to our customers' needs by introducing a new low-cost $10/$15 200 MB Web feature that can be added to any device."
Source: http://www.tmonews.com/2010/11/t-mobile-adding-data-plan-to-new-data-lineup/

Product F(RED) said:
If you're trying to avoid getting the unlimited plan by pretending you're still using your G1, it won't work. They have a database of all the IMEI #s and the IMEI of the phone you're using gets transmitted, so they can see what you're using.
Back on AT&T, I bought a used iPhone (original model) and spoofed the IMEI to avoid having to pay for the iPhone data plan. Not sure if you can do this on Android.
You can see what I'm talking about by going to your T-Mobile account online and somewhere it should say which phone you're using. If you switch to another T-Mobile phone, it'll change. Carriers only have the IMEI #s of the phones that are branded by them. So if you put your T-Mobile SIM in an AT&T or unlocked, unbranded phone, it wouldn't show that phone under your account.
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Not that it matters (see my previous post), but even when they detect someone switches phones, can they really just alter your data plan without asking your permission?

The way AT&T did it, they would send you an automated text first a number of times. Then they'd add it. If it's stated in the TOS then they can do it. See if you can call them up and find a nice rep who'll try and keep it for you though.
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ArcticWolf91 said:
Can they really just alter your data plan without asking your permission?
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No -- they just disable access to Internet but still charge you for the plan.

ArcticWolf91 said:
Yeah but I'm using a G1, so I can just use that to get the new data plan, then I will buy the MyTouch 4G off-contract and swap the sim.
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Until tmo recognizes that you are on a mt4g...then they will require the correct plan. Not to mention what you proposed was at the very least dishonest
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Just answer the question
Can someone just answer his question without requiring his motives?
There's other people with legitimate reasons to do the same. What if you are in an area that has bad data reception? What if you wanted to use navigation outside of the city?
There's been plenty of times that I couldn't use Navi because of poor reception.

Use the navigon app it is now downloadable from the market. Maps are stored on the phone.
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3G to 4G issue and ?

History:
Company issued BB Curve 3g
Bought my own Captivate, took SIM from BB and put into Captivate. Voice and DATA work great. Now I have a nice phone that work pays for
Yesterday I bought an Infuse, took 3g SIM from cappy and put in it. Voice calling works NO data though.
Go to AT&T cust center this morning and they replace the sim with a new 4g one. Still NO DATA. Put the new 4g sim in the cap everything works fine - in Infuse only voice but no data which means no email = can't use for work & out a lot of money.
Does anyone know a fix for this or even why it's happening ? Will rooting it fix it ?

Yes, they have to switch you to a 4g plan in the system, your features and cost will still be the same but you will have "4g data plan". I know because I had the same issue. They had to enter my imei number into the system and then make the switch. It works in the captivate because that's a 3g device.
infuse 4g "a lot a screen real estate"

Which means I'm screwed because my IT people would not authorize that to be done as I am only allowed to use a BB or Iphone. Neither do I like. They were quite pissed when I told them I removed the sim from my BB. So no way to use the new Infuse. Not going to make the wife happy considering I shelled out cash for it last night.

Just curious, did you actually check to make sure 'packet data' was enabled in wireless settings under mobile networks?
That's the probable cause, you shouldn't need to change your data plan if coming from a captivate
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yep. Everything is checked. Its a 4g issue and my company won't authorize attaching my blackbery data plan to the iemi of the new infuse because we aren't allowed to used android devices

scottcwhite said:
yep. Everything is checked. Its a 4g issue and my company won't authorize attaching my blackbery data plan to the iemi of the new infuse because we aren't allowed to used android devices
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Ugh, that's stupid
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its not that you need a "4g plan" its some network protocol they have to change. its actually the same one that the iphone uses. the guy in the att store showed me. i was making sure they would not touch my plan. no way im getting rid of my unlimited data.

The Jack of Clubs said:
its not that you need a "4g plan" its some network protocol they have to change. its actually the same one that the iphone uses. the guy in the att store showed me. i was making sure they would not touch my plan. no way im getting rid of my unlimited data.
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He needs the 4g plan because when they enter the imei of the infuse, the Rep can't proceed unless they select the appropriate 4g plan, trust me I spent almost 2 hrs on the phone with ATT last week before they finally figured it out. He will still have the same features he has now but they need to select "4g".
infuse 4g "a lot a screen real estate"

Yup, I had the same issue, upgrade from cappy to infuse - DATA not working with the 3G sim. I had to activate the 4G sim came with the phone - NO DATA connectivity until the att technical support had set me up for "4G plan" and IMEI should be set for that. Then got the DATA working like a breeze. All happened in 10 mins.

I've switched back and forth between an iPhone 3g, Samsung Vibrant, Motorola Atrix and the Samsung Infuse with the same sim card and I've never had any of the issues that you all are having.
I get voice, text and data flawlessly with any of the phones, without the need to change my plan. Just because you may be on a 3G plan shouldn't hinder you from being able to use data on your Infuse. Unless you've somehow come across some kind of fluke, I would start looking at something else as the problem rather than what they have your plan designated as.

I concur with everyone above. Same exact plan on the surface, so your IT guys wouldn't even know, but the plan code is different....
You actually have to own or be authorized to make plan modifications in order to even switch the plans. If its through your company, I don't think they would put you on the account as an authorized person to change plans...
BUT you can always try.... sorry....

ZeroIsntTheHero said:
I've switched back and forth between an iPhone 3g, Samsung Vibrant, Motorola Atrix and the Samsung Infuse with the same sim card and I've never had any of the issues that you all are having.
I get voice, text and data flawlessly with any of the phones, without the need to change my plan. Just because you may be on a 3G plan shouldn't hinder you from being able to use data on your Infuse. Unless you've somehow come across some kind of fluke, I would start looking at something else as the problem rather than what they have your plan designated as.
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its not so much the plan as the fact that my company won't allow the current plan to be tied to the new infuse. I'll post the email exchange I had with my company in a bit.

slider2828 said:
I concur with everyone above. Same exact plan on the surface, so your IT guys wouldn't even know, but the plan code is different....
You actually have to own or be authorized to make plan modifications in order to even switch the plans. If its through your company, I don't think they would put you on the account as an authorized person to change plans...
BUT you can always try.... sorry....
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That be the case. So I'm stuck with the captivate which is better than my company policy of BB or Iphone only.
So if anyone would like a BRAND NEW Infuse in the box for the same $500 I bought it for last night let me know. Free shipping

Inspire on prepaid?

Infuse owner here asking this for a friend. Can a inspire be unlocked to work with a att gophone simcard? If so are there any data limitations? Thanks
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Did some research and it appears it will work but inorder to have data ill have to root it, and its only on edge. So after I root it what do I have to do next?
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I don't have exact answers per se, but as an AT&T Mobility employee I have some advice and some warnings.
Advice: It would be much better to get a "4G" SIM instead of the GoPhone one, just in case this causes any issues.
When you go activate the SIM, take another, non-smartphone, phone with you and say that that's what you will use. We will put the non-smartphone IMEI in the system and it will allow you to get the $50 unlimited talk,text, and web.
Once you have the "4G" SIM activated, and the non-smartphone IMEI registered, put the SIM in the Inspire. Now, the seemingly difficult part.
Warning: You MUST find the APN settings for our feature phones somewhere, if you can't, I will try to find them for you. The reasoning behind this is that more then likely the "web" included on the $50 package is only one the feature phone APN, instead of the smartphone one.
Secondly, don't be surprised if one day you stop having internet connectivity. As we do with our postpaid customers, we also have a system for prepaid that sweeps every IMEI used and applies (or in your case, removes) the appropriate data packages.
I know that our prepaid data packages are a ripoff, but this is one way to do it, if only temporarily.
P.S. Where did you hear it would only be EDGE? That seems incorrect to me.

Bronk93 said:
Did some research and it appears it will work but inorder to have data ill have to root it, and its only on edge. So after I root it what do I have to do next?
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Look up H2O its a prepaid service that uses at&t towers and band so you don't have to unlock the phone and its 60$ a month for unlimited talk text and web
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Bronk93 said:
Did some research and it appears it will work but inorder to have data ill have to root it, and its only on edge. So after I root it what do I have to do next?
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The inspire will work ina go phone similar card as it is what I run mine one. Data speeds are the same but cost more in the long run.

danielsaenz said:
I don't have exact answers per se, but as an AT&T Mobility employee I have some advice and some warnings.
Advice: It would be much better to get a "4G" SIM instead of the GoPhone one, just in case this causes any issues.
When you go activate the SIM, take another, non-smartphone, phone with you and say that that's what you will use. We will put the non-smartphone IMEI in the system and it will allow you to get the $50 unlimited talk,text, and web.
Once you have the "4G" SIM activated, and the non-smartphone IMEI registered, put the SIM in the Inspire. Now, the seemingly difficult part.
Warning: You MUST find the APN settings for our feature phones somewhere, if you can't, I will try to find them for you. The reasoning behind this is that more then likely the "web" included on the $50 package is only one the feature phone APN, instead of the smartphone one.
Secondly, don't be surprised if one day you stop having internet connectivity. As we do with our postpaid customers, we also have a system for prepaid that sweeps every IMEI used and applies (or in your case, removes) the appropriate data packages.
I know that our prepaid data packages are a ripoff, but this is one way to do it, if only temporarily.
P.S. Where did you hear it would only be EDGE? That seems incorrect to me.
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So if I am understanding this right, the phone must be rooted, and the APN needs to be changed to reflect a featured phone data plan instead of the smartphone data plan that the droid is expecting to use. Along with using a 4G simcard, that should be it right? The apn settings are all over the internet, i just read them, its like wap.cingular.com or something, but whats this sweeping system you speak of, does it compare the sim card over the air to the imei its 'registered with' opposed to the imei of the phone its installed in?

twizt3d said:
So if I am understanding this right, the phone must be rooted, and the APN needs to be changed to reflect a featured phone data plan instead of the smartphone data plan that the droid is expecting to use. Along with using a 4G simcard, that should be it right? The apn settings are all over the internet, i just read them, its like wap.cingular.com or something, but whats this sweeping system you speak of, does it compare the sim card over the air to the imei its 'registered with' opposed to the imei of the phone its installed in?
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It will work just fine stock. I have been running prepaid for awhile now and have not had a single issue. The apns will set on their own to the proper ones once you insert your similar card.
And they are right att dies sweep the IMEI but it doesn't matter as I gave reps my IMEI when I got the inspire and swapped my account from my old captivate. Also I font use a data plan as I am normally around wifi at all times. The only backdraw is if you have less then $5 on your account the data won't connect. ATT can't stop you from having any phone you want on prepaid. They tried with the IPhone and a lawsuite ended that.

go with h20..no contract means no problem
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jmollabi said:
go with h20..no contract means no problem
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Except, data speeds are kinda slow and the "Unlimited Data" on the $60/Mo plan is actually capped at 3GB..

so what happens after you reach the "cap"

Bronk93 said:
Infuse owner here asking this for a friend. Can a inspire be unlocked to work with a att gophone simcard? If so are there any data limitations? Thanks
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Im actually using an Inspire via GoPhone. I have been for a few months. I just went to a local att store and simply bought a simcard, some airtime, and activated that sim card, popped it in and voila! I dont recommend buying a cheap GoPhone and using the sim out of that because recently, att decide to start locking the sim that comes with that phone to that specific phone. I made that mistake the first time and found it out the hard way.
I only have the $25/mo plan and i buy a $25 data package when needed. I dont use a lot of data, since I have wifi available most of the time.

throttle
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Works good with prepaid just had to put apn in manually to get data working other than that perfect .
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Bronk93 said:
Did some research and it appears it will work but inorder to have data ill have to root it, and its only on edge. So after I root it what do I have to do next?
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You did horrible research.
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Data restricted on ATT network

I'm using sensation on ATT network with a nonsmart phone data plan on it. Once a while, I will get "data restricted", which I can't access to the internet. "R" symbol shows on the status bar instead of "E". I called 611 on my phone. It tells you that your phone has been restricted.
Has anyone experienced this before?

Using the Sensation on the AT&T network??? There are so many just as good (if not better) Android devices AT&T sells. Why would you want to put up with only having Edge? Just asking?

You should have bought the Bell Sensation so you could get 3G
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I got it from my friend for free. That's why I didn't get any other good phone from ATT.

nick_martin said:
I got it from my friend for free. That's why I didn't get any other good phone from ATT.
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Can't argue with free. I'm not sure but I think your issue has to do with your data pack since the APN Settings your Sensation would use is a smartphone data APN not Media Net. I could be wrong though. Do you know someone who has a smartphone with AT&T and has a data package? You could try their sim and see if you get the same issue.
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Zehlek said:
Can't argue with free. I'm not sure but I think your issue has to do with your data pack since the APN Settings your Sensation would use is a smartphone data APN not Media Net. I could be wrong though. Do you know someone who has a smartphone with AT&T and has a data package? You could try their sim and see if you get the same issue.
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Actually the APN setting is Media net. I was kinda surprised that I didn't even need to input it myself. I put the sim card in, the setting was there.

From what I've read ATT are real dicks about snooping on what kind of data you are pulling and the devices that you are using. You said you don't have a smart phone data plan (maybe some old grandfathered dumbphone data plan?). In any case, I'd guess they've detected you are using a smartphone pulling real webpages with it and so are "restricting" you so that you will call their CS so they can tell you to upgrade to a full data plan. Basically your problem is that your service provider is ATT to begin with. My 2 cents.

the-Mike_D said:
From what I've read ATT are real dicks about snooping on what kind of data you are pulling and the devices that you are using. You said you don't have a smart phone data plan (maybe some old grandfathered dumbphone data plan?). In any case, I'd guess they've detected you are using a smartphone pulling real webpages with it and so are "restricting" you so that you will call their CS so they can tell you to upgrade to a full data plan. Basically your problem is that your service provider is ATT to begin with. My 2 cents.
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I even got an txt from them once, said "you are using a iphone and we'll put the iphone data plan on your account", but they never did.

[Q] Sidekick on AT&T

If I use a sidekick on ATT, will I be forced to get the att smart phone data plan? I really dont want it. I just want to use it for wifi. Hopefully one of you guys can help me. :x

Bump?
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I'm gessing ull use aq gophone plan? No u won't have to, but the data that comes on the 50$ plan is unusable for our phone.
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No, Im on a family plan, unlimited talk and text, but im asking if data will be forced onto my line.

I used to work at ATT. Yes you will have to pay the price for data. Sorry
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No you won't be forced into it, just keep your mobile data connection off... One of the big problems though is you wont be able to send or receive MMS messages. If you can find ATT's APN settings for just MMS go ahead and set up your phone with just that APN and not for Data as well... I'm not sure if ATT charges extra for MMS messages or if you even want it, but they cant force you into buying data if you don't want it.

eurohomie said:
No you won't be forced into it, just keep your mobile data connection off... One of the big problems though is you wont be able to send or receive MMS messages. If you can find ATT's APN settings for just MMS go ahead and set up your phone with just that APN and not for Data as well... I'm not sure if ATT charges extra for MMS messages or if you even want it, but they cant force you into buying data if you don't want it.
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Yes they can. Trust me. If you don't want to believe me thats fine. But trust me, they will.
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I've been on T-Mobile for about 6 Years, never even got a data plan since. using my sidekick now without data. Its not being forced on me, been on android since the g1. Even back then they said your phone was unusable without a data plan ...Att shouldn't force a data plan on you, my sisters on att with an unlocked blackberry tour. She can't access the internet but the phones still fully functional. They haven't forced that ridiculous bb plan on her for 3 years.

insanedrunk said:
I've been on T-Mobile for about 6 Years, never even got a data plan since. using my sidekick now without data. Its not being forced on me, been on android since the g1. Even back then they said your phone was unusable without a data plan ...Att shouldn't force a data plan on you, my sisters on att with an unlocked blackberry tour. She can't access the internet but the phones still fully functional. They haven't forced that ridiculous bb plan on her for 3 years.
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Whatever
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insanedrunk said:
I've been on T-Mobile for about 6 Years, never even got a data plan since. using my sidekick now without data. Its not being forced on me, been on android since the g1. Even back then they said your phone was unusable without a data plan ...Att shouldn't force a data plan on you, my sisters on att with an unlocked blackberry tour. She can't access the internet but the phones still fully functional. They haven't forced that ridiculous bb plan on her for 3 years.
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Yeah, I believe they can only force you into getting a data plan when signing up for a new contract with them.
In order to get the contract discounts on phones you need to sign up for a certain premium data plan or something stupid.
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I buy my phones second hand for that reason, ebays your pal. The op sounds as he already has att. So if he unlocks his sk 4g there wouldn't be a need, just take out the sim card and exchange. I have been changing phones as they come out, no problems... I pay 100$ flat for 5 phones on a family plan. Most importantly, no DATA PLAN...
My sister has used all my android phones that I leave behind on her att plan, never had any problems being forced into a data plan . You only truely needed an internet plan to sign up or sign into google servers, once you're past that, your all gravy, and can survive on wifi. The only phones I've had that didn't allow you to skip the sign in/setup wizard were the g1 and the mytouch 3g. But then root came : ( 0)

I know that Tmo doesnt force data plan, but Att does. Im just really unsure of what phone to get, cause Ive been hearing different things lol.
I've heard att cant detect a g2x, cause its exclusively a tmo phone, and a sidekick is also, so I was gonna get that instead. But now im hearing that they can force you it with a sidekick. I am so lost. Lol

I know that you can use this on ATT without being forced into a data plan. That's precicely what I'm doing right now. Here's what I'm trying to find out though. ATT doesn't know what phone I've got. Their site lists my old non-smartphone. If I choose to add the cheaper unlimited dataplan for non-smartphones (which is the only option available for me to choose online) then will my phone work like that? Or will they then be able to recognize my phone as a smart phone and switch me over to the smartphone data plan?

i know that some carriers will lock down your wifi so you cant use it without a data plan. i dont know if att does or not. the only way around that i know of is to remove the sim card. take out the sim card, and you can use wifi. but who wants to take their sim card out just to use wifi? the only time they can make you get a data plan is for discounts on new phones or when entering a new contract.

my experience with att sucked on this phone, i went with the 25$ go phone plan with 25$ of data (turns out data on the gophone doesnt work with 4g phones from other carriers boo) also if i had 1 bar it would drop said bar if i tried to send a text or make a phone call. the sad fact is here in montana (no local tmobile) i get better service through tmobile monthly then att monthly (who has local coverage)

U don't need a smartphone plan u can get the media net $10 data plan or block the data and only use wifi
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At&t will force a data plan if you have a 3g or higher phone.
The sidekick cannot run on at&t 3 or 4g, so it will not detect it, it will view it as a non-smartphone.
And to those saying at&t can't force a data plan at all, get a regular phone from ebay that's meant for at&t, pop your sim in, you will get a nice little text message saying you will not be charged $15 a month for data.

Chrimsonfire said:
At&t will force a data plan if you have a 3g or higher phone.
The sidekick cannot run on at&t 3 or 4g, so it will not detect it, it will view it as a non-smartphone.
And to those saying at&t can't force a data plan at all, get a regular phone from ebay that's meant for at&t, pop your sim in, you will get a nice little text message saying you will not be charged $15 a month for data.
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yeah and on monthly you cant even access 2g which is BS

insanedrunk said:
I buy my phones second hand for that reason, ebays your pal. The op sounds as he already has att. So if he unlocks his sk 4g there wouldn't be a need, just take out the sim card and exchange. I have been changing phones as they come out, no problems... I pay 100$ flat for 5 phones on a family plan. Most importantly, no DATA PLAN...
My sister has used all my android phones that I leave behind on her att plan, never had any problems being forced into a data plan . You only truely needed an internet plan to sign up or sign into google servers, once you're past that, your all gravy, and can survive on wifi. The only phones I've had that didn't allow you to skip the sign in/setup wizard were the g1 and the mytouch 3g. But then root came : ( 0)
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Do first boot without the sim card. The phone will turn on wifi so you can connect to Google. I do this all the time when flashing just because the first sync is faster that way.
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