Now don't get me wrong there are a lot of brilliant apps on the market but it's rare that you find anything worthwhile. A lot of the "apps" are just rubbish soundboards or quotes or themes or other garbage. Why aren't there any media players or a PSX emulator or a N64 emulator even? They've been out on the iPhone, WebOS, Windows Mobile and even Symbian has it. Don't get me started on Maemo. I know Android is java based but surely it can't be that difficult to get any of the above working?
For example the HD2 can play DivX and has a working PSX emulator. All the Desire/N1 has is yxflash for playing DivX which is a pretty poor media player if you ask me.
This has all been discussed in the past. Search and you'll find the answer.
supremeteam256 said:
This has all been discussed in the past. Search and you'll find the answer.
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Android is changing every day. The outlook and future of Android is being shaped every day. I amn't looking for an answer, i'm looking for a discussion so please get off your high horse.
I amn't some noob asking stupid questions, I know Android runs through Java and this is why intensive apps aren't as numerous. That's not the point of this thread though.
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Now don't get me wrong there are a lot of brilliant apps on the market but it's rare that you find anything worthwhile. A lot of the "apps" are just rubbish soundboards or quotes or themes or other garbage. Why aren't there any media players or a PSX emulator or a N64 emulator even? They've been out on the iPhone, WebOS, Windows Mobile and even Symbian has it. Don't get me started on Maemo. I know Android is java based but surely it can't be that difficult to get any of the above working?
For example the HD2 can play DivX and has a working PSX emulator. All the Desire/N1 has is yxflash for playing DivX which is a pretty poor media player if you ask me.
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There are media players. Plenty of them. Maybe you should look. And why would you want an N64 emulator? I don't even see the point in the NES emulator on the market now. Personally, handheld consoles are only things that should have an emulator on a mobile phone - especially on an all touchscreen one. MAYBE an N64 emulator would be cool on one with a physical keyboard. Also, have you EVER opened up the market AT ALL?! There are plenty of useful apps.
WTF is with all you people who expect Android to be the best even though it is practically brand new? How about you sit down and just wait for a little bit, ok? All these posts down-talking Android are just annoying. You haven't even let it develop yet, you just assume the first cake baked will the better than the rest.
And if it's so easy, go do it. Don't complain because someone hasn't met your wants yet. Suggestions work better than hammering. You grow a tree by planting a seed, not cutting it down.
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There are media players. Plenty of them. Maybe you should look. And why would you want an N64 emulator? I don't even see the point in the NES emulator on the market now. Personally, handheld consoles are only things that should have an emulator on a mobile phone - especially on an all touchscreen one. MAYBE an N64 emulator would be cool on one with a physical keyboard. Also, have you EVER opened up the market AT ALL?! There are plenty of useful apps.
WTF is with all you people who expect Android to be the best even though it is practically brand new? How about you sit down and just wait for a little bit, ok? All these posts down-talking Android are just annoying. You haven't even let it develop yet, you just assume the first cake baked will the better than the rest.
And if it's so easy, go do it. Don't complain because someone hasn't met your wants yet. Suggestions work better than hammering. You grow a tree by planting a seed, not cutting it down.
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Whoa whoa, calm down
I wasn't putting down Android at all, i'm just curious as to why there seems to be so few "heavy" apps like N64/PSX emulators and the like. There are no GOOD media players, by that I mean a media player that plays DivX and plays it well. The only one I know of is Coreplayer 2.0 and development for that seems to be very slow. There are useful apps but there are far more useless apps or just pure rubbish strewn in the market. Far too much actually.
I never suggested developing these apps are easy but I don't even see many attempts at developing apps like that. There isn't enough variety in apps, for every app there are ten more trying to copy it. I just don't feel that i'm using my phone to it's full potential.
At least we're free to have/develop Apps like Emulators and Media Players, unlike a certain Fruity Smartphone.....
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At least we're free to have/develop Apps like Emulators and Media Players, unlike a certain Fruity Smartphone.....
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lol @ fruity smartphone starting with "i"
abc27 said:
I know Android is java based but surely it can't be that difficult to get any of the above working?.
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Time for a technical reply
I put several emulators on the market (search 'shagrath') and believe me, this is not so simple. The current state of native development on Android is very early. Meaning you have to implement a lot in Java (not really a big deal, but you can't reuse code done by other people in Qt/GTK/SDL/whatever), and there's no real APIs to access video hardware in a fast way, except OpenGL, which can be ok on some devices, but slow on others (N1 i'm looking at you)
I'm sure this has something to do with Google making things right before opening up better APIs. After all, the goal of Android is to support many hardware components/SOCs (system on a chip), while keeping compatibility of older Android apps. On the other side, the OSes you mentioned are all based on a single combination of hardware/software or so (except WinMo maybe ?). Better, a lot of them are breaking compatibility in their newer versions (Meego, WinPhone7, Symbian^3), because you can't keep crappy APIs forever
So, in a nutshell, a really good video player will not come before Google ship new APIs (I guess the CoreCodec guys have done all they could and are now waiting for them)
PSX and N64 support has more to do with motivation and code resources, because we have access to OpenGL on Android. I've yet to see a good Mobile PSX emulator other than Fpsece on WinMo (which is closed source, and will likely never be ported elsewhere). And both PSX and N64 emulators on Maemo are slow.
I haven't read through the whole thread but a few of the Samsung Galaxy line of phones are suppose to come with a pretty good built in divx player for android phones. For a general media player the music app for the Motorola Cliq XT is one of the best I have seen for Android.
Well there are emu's for:
NES
SNES
GBA
Genesis
GBC
We(Android community) have Quake 3(runs quite smoothly on small maps) and Quake 1 running, as well as doom (zdoom to be specific if memory serves me correctly). N64 emu is currently being developed by scottgl. We have web servers, DLNA servers, remote RDP clients (although no servers to the best of my knowledge).
I do agree that there has yet to be a really strong video media player on the Android, again as mentioned above, that’s due to API support (or lack thereof ).
I fail to see your problem, Android has plenty of great apps! Unless you think the omission of a few thousand fart apps means no great apps......
Maybe money is the issue?
In my view Android does currently lack large quality applications in some areas particularily media players. Many of the apps have an amateurish feel to them ( no offense guys but that's my honest opinion).
I suspect a significant factor is the difficulty in making money from the Android Market. Developing large scale polished apps takes a lot more time than the average hobbyist developer has available and since it's considerablely more difficult to make a decent income (compared to the Iphone market) we end up with a large number of lower quality apps as the developer/s stops after a while without a financial incentive.
IMO. The lack of some sort of quality control mechanism and easy moneyization ( E.g. charging apps to the Carrier bill ) may prove to be one of Android's achilles heel
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Now don't get me wrong there are a lot of brilliant apps on the market but it's rare that you find anything worthwhile.
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Depends on what your definition of "worthwhile" is. Frankly, I've had a G1 for two days and it has been better in many areas than my iPhone 3GS (which I still own!).
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Well, that's just not true...
From what I've seen (which hasn't been much yet), Android is indeed lacking on the media front. However, there are two things to consider here: (a) The iPhone makes a really good iPod, and (b) Most Android devices do not double as dedicated music players; they are meant to be smartphones through and through, which sacrifices many things on the media front.
This was a problem on practically anything that wasn't the iPhone, but as someone mentioned here, Android is in quite an early stage of the game. It literally just got "decent" after Eclair, which was released, what, last year?
These game´s has released on iphone and PSP and is a port/remake of the old Amiga versions.
So i´m wondering if more people is interested in getting this game to android, if so we could all send an email to the developer showing our interest and hope for the best.
You can find gameplay videos from iphone on youtube (i am not allowed to post links as im a new member)
Developers mail is: juuso(at)cowboyrodeo(dot)net (seems i can´t write emails either)
Only alternative i found to play this on my phone is the gba remake on gba emulators. But it´s not as good as the iphone/psp versions.
Have you tried playing the Amiga version of these games on an emulator on your Android?
No i havent played it on Amiga Emulator on my phone, cause when u use the keyboard layout on the screen it covers the whole screen. So it would be unplayable
But seems like this is a dead end anyway. Developer is not replying and i doubt they will ever bother
There was only one pinball of all times. Slamtilt. Unfortunately only on AGA chipsets.
Does anyone happen to know the game LetterPress on iphone and ipad?
I really want to play it with frineds who use it together but its not on android at the moment, there is a very similar game but when i read the reviews they all say it's not the exact game and you cannot play apple players with it.
Does anyone happen to know if it will be released anytime for android so both apple and android players can use it together?
James
Letterpress for andorid
Check out letterpress for android here
Search for "Letterpress" I am unable to post the link here. App is free
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Does anyone happen to know the game LetterPress on iphone and ipad?
I really want to play it with frineds who use it together but its not on android at the moment, there is a very similar game but when i read the reviews they all say it's not the exact game and you cannot play apple players with it.
Does anyone happen to know if it will be released anytime for android so both apple and android players can use it together?
James
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Hello,
I love to play the Settlers online.
www.thesettlersonline.com
And I would like to play it on my Android device.
Since the creators of the Settlers online don't want to think about making the game playable on any other device than pc, I was wondering if someone XDA could make a forwarder or something...
The biggest problem is, it uses Flash.
I, for one, have got a Xperia S which does not have much capabilities about Flash games.
I tried Dolphin browser and other browsers, but it wouldn't work.
Hi, I own an LG TV WebOS 3.5 I was wondering if there is any way to play nes games through emulation, I wonder if there is some kind of WebOS app Nes emulator? Yeah I know I could actually steam my phone though MirrorShare but there is a huge delay, it will be a lot different if I could play directly from the TV. Also I know that buy an Android TV (Mi Box for example) would do the trick. But well, I was just wondering.
Yes, see https://forum.xda-developers.com/web-os/general/retroarch-libretro-emulation-frontend-t3898293