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3,600mAh battery review

All righty so after much pondering and wondering 'should I' and 'what if'... I finally said screw it and bought the 3,600mAh Mugen Power Battery for my G2
Pricey at $100 and nearly 3 weeks to get due to back order, it was tough... but once I got it, installed it, charged it, deep cycled a couple times... battery life is flat out awesome.
Typical daily usage for me includes 2-3 sessions of 20 minutes of streaming music (Pandora or Subsonic), 20 minutes calling, ~50 to 100 SMS, ~20 emails, and occasionally I'll get on the browser and check stuff out online.
I leave GPS and 3G on all the time, Sync is always on, I turn WiFi on when I'm at home, sometimes I use bluetooth (very rare) for keyboard.. I use Automatic brightness
On my G2 using CM7, and overclock to 1.1Ghz w/ONDEMAND governor stock 1300mAh battery achieved 14-20 hours of run time, typically the phone was dead after around 15 hours. Sometimes I would get more if I didn't use it much, other times if I GPS on battery, I get 10-12 hours
Now with 3600mAh.. the WORST I've gotten (this was trying to kill the phone asap) I got 20 hours. Mind you I had NAV on when it wasn't needed, I left brightness at max, left WiFi and bluetooth on, etc etc...
I've been using the phone today normally, my battery is at 82% and I've been 9 hours and 19 minutes since unplugged. This battery is ridiculously awesome!! I haven't even been able to drain it under normal usage, yet lol
The size it added is not all that big of a deal.. I can post some pictures but the fat cover adds maybe 1/8 inch to the phone's thickness. Its ugly IMO... but its functionality has captured my heart lol I really do love the run time with this battery, it was so worth ditching my case and paying $100 for it. I really do like it!
I'll post pics when I get another camera to snap some of the phone (my phone has become my primary camera LOL)
Some pictures to add:
My "best" battery time with the stock/OEM HTC 1,300 mAh battery:
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3,600mah Battery is 12% in this picture.. Could have done MUCH better though:
You can see a sharp drop.. I played games on the phone for 2-3 hours. I imagine if I did not play any games on it, I could have gone much longer.. I would guess perhaps another 12-24 hours on this charge!

Huh?
Sorry, your avatar distracted me
Nice review though, I stuck with the mugen 1800 and it serves my purpose. Get's me easily through the day with the little extra kick if needed

omarsalmin said:
Huh?
Sorry, your avatar distracted me
Nice review though, I stuck with the mugen 1800 and it serves my purpose. Get's me easily through the day with the little extra kick if needed
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I considered the Mugen 1800 for a while too but I figured for the money the 3,600 gave me more of what I wanted...
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My "best" battery time with the stock/OEM HTC 1,300 mAh battery:
3,600mah Battery is 12% in this picture.. Could have done MUCH better though:
You can see a sharp drop.. I played games on the phone for 2-3 hours. I imagine if I did not play any games on it, I could have gone much longer.. I would guess perhaps another 12-24 hours on this charge!

Could you provide a photo of what the battery looks like on your case, please?

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Could you provide a photo of what the battery looks like on your case, please?
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Yeah I'll run by my friend's house n use their cam to shoot some pics of this phone some tiem today

Impressive usage but $100 is way too much for a battery lol

Photos please
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I bought 3 batterys for 20 bucks so i just swap them out. >< iono but same here 100 seems like way to much.
if i traveled alot i may have gone this route but im almost always at home or infront of a computer at work.

Mog said:
I bought 3 batterys for 20 bucks so i just swap them out. >< iono but same here 100 seems like way to much.
if i traveled alot i may have gone this route but im almost always at home or infront of a computer at work.
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I do travel a lot sooo yeah I needed the battery. I almost bought an iPhone instead cus I was really close to getting pissed at the battery. This saved me

I bought a 3500mAh battery off eBay for 18 bucks shipped.

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I bought a 3500mAh battery off eBay for 18 bucks shipped.
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1. And is the battery any good so far?
2. Can you point me to the seller?

Thanks for the info. I am in need of finding another battery solution because I end up having to charge on the car ride home every day to use for the evening. Its a pain.

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1. And is the battery any good so far?
2. Can you point me to the seller?
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The battery is pretty good. I can get a full days use easy out of it. This includes heavy browsing, games, 100-200 texts a day, email, Twitter and Facebook. Here is the link, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120680372473&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
I also have a picture of it on the phone itself.

I bit and got the 1800 mAh battery, didn't want the extra bulkness, but needed something to get over this crappy stock battery, I usually do a lot of texting/talking on my mytouch 4g and it would usually get me thru the day if not more then 24 hours including stand by. With this battery, I couldn't get thru a whole day w/o charging, so hoping the 1800 mah battery can help.

3500mAh for 12 bucks: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/3-7v-3...y-pack-with-back-cover-for-htc-desire-z-55616
The 3600 are probably just labeled with a higher rating.

shadow# said:
3500mAh for 12 bucks: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/3-7v-3...y-pack-with-back-cover-for-htc-desire-z-55616
The 3600 are probably just labeled with a higher rating.
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most are this batteries are mislabeled either way haha... I prefer paying for the mislabeled 3600 since I'll get it in like 3 days rather than like 20 XD

These 3500 mAH batteries aren't bad at all. I've been using it for 2 weeks now, and I can last 2 days no problem. Only challenge is trying to completely kill the battery.

Might save a few bucks, but you have to be careful with these no-name batteries.
They sometimes only test at 60-70% of the capacity they're listed at.
http://batteryboss.org/
Now Id still say this is a better deal than the Seidio or Mugen, considering the 3200 Mugen tested at 75% of the capacity promised, and Seidio 3500mah at 81% of promised capacity.
The no name (different no-name but still) 3600mah tested in at 2466mah, 70%, but costs a lot less that the Seidio and Mugen (15% the price).

I bought a 3500mah. Hopefully the battery life makes up for the bulkness of the phone.
One question. Does it feel weird with the big battery in your pocket?
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I think im going to get it for my g2. To me it looks super cyberpunk
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Mugen Power batteries (1800mAh and 3600mAh) for MyTouch 4G Slide?

Mugen Power just released 1800mAh and 3600mAh (this one I'm interested in) for MyTouch 4G Slide. I just check them on their Facebook page and I'm quite interested in the performance...
http://www.facebook.com/mugenpowerbatteries
Mugen Power 1800mAh battery
Mugen Power 3600mAh battery

Yeah I was suprise there wasn't a post about this earlier, I am interested in picking up one too but not sure which one I would go with...
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I love Mugen Power batteries. I bought one for my G1 and the words "battery life" was just something other people complained about when flashing a new ROM and not something i ever thought about again until I bought the MT4GS. I'm definitely picking up one or both of these. I can't tell if the 3600 is going to be offered in black though. I may contact them and ask. I can tell you with that 3600 you could go camping in the mountains for a few days and not worry about you phone dying...very handy trip battery
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My 1900 anker battery was much cheeper and it lasts really long
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siani_8 please do let us know whether they will offer a blank door for the 3600 battery when they reply to your message.

siani_8 said:
I love Mugen Power batteries. I bought one for my G1 and the words "battery life" was just something other people complained about when flashing a new ROM and not something i ever thought about again until I bought the MT4GS. I'm definitely picking up one or both of these. I can't tell if the 3600 is going to be offered in black though. I may contact them and ask. I can tell you with that 3600 you could go camping in the mountains for a few days and not worry about you phone dying...very handy trip battery
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Honestly I was very disappointed with HTC over the stock battery issues. Very, very limited battery life but more importantly, the heat issue. There were a few times where I was seriously evaluating whether I needed to put the phone down and give my hands a chance to cool off before I started getting mild burns. It was in my hands for a while there almost 20-something hours a day for days on end. I wouldn't worry about it starting a fire or anything like that, but that long-term exposure to the heat against my skin was becoming a consideration.
This was before, and the reason I waited so long on, getting a case. The idea of trapping more heat against the phone to me was my immediate evaluation and dismissal of the thought.
The second generation snapdragon processors had a fatal flaw. They were overly subject to heat stresses that just burned up the chip, because of what the chip was. Third generation snapdragon processors are in our phones, and I just couldn't pass this device up.
The more I thought about the heat issue, the more I decided that it was the battery that was the problem. HTC brought us an insane piece of hardware, but they aren't a battery manufacturing company and nothing else. I suppose the idea that they just got a battery in it to get the hardware out the door is a concession to getting the actual device itself to the specs it is. The heat issue makes it not okay though.
I'd forgive a crappy battery out of the box, but not one that directly damages and shortens the lifespan of the device it's in. Heat is your enemy, especially so when the phone itself is that hot.
Along comes a thread on the anker battery, and a decent amount of people who chime in or get and love this battery. I looked one up and found it for $3 at amazon - how could I not get it when an HTC replacement battery is $35-$40 for less then 1600...the anker is a 1900.
I absolutely love the anker battery, it's completely changed the experience. I no longer walk out the door and wonder if i'm going to run out of power, and I have two energizer 4000 usb-battery packs I can take with me.
The heat issue...gone like it never existed. My phone is no longer destroying itself just to live. I can do whatever I want on the phone for hours on end and not really give much consideration to what my battery is like until towards the end of it. With the stock battery, I was evaluating my next possible power sources before i'd leave a place.
...solving the heat issue let me consider cases, and another negative about a case was how often I was swapping out my MicroSD card for a while, there weren't any long periods of time (more then maybe a third of a day) that I didn't swap out a card.
I've since passively seen the name mugen tossed around in XDA, and i'm pretty sure it was considered a quality piece of equipment...just in a general non-specific sense. This thread kinda confirms that impression a bit with the opportunity to answer the question.
If the 3600 is legit, and I didn't click the link I don't have the time to look now, i'd love to know about it. I have some other things i'd like to get for this phone before a new battery would be a worthwhile consideration, but if it's really a good 3600 battery then that time would come pretty quickly, and it would honestly be more about protecting the investment in the hardware i've purchased, then getting extra run time.
If the battery runs hot, i'm not interested, so i'd appreciate if those who are going to jump on either of these to make a note of that, and maybe pass it along?
I'd really love to have this battery in my phone, if it's as good as i'm thinking/wishing it could be.
I'd like to say thank you to the people who are gonna jump on this and be able to tell us about it, people will definitely be paying attention.

duckied said:
siani_8 please do let us know whether they will offer a blank door for the 3600 battery when they reply to your message.
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The black door option is right on their page. Just select the drop down box.

Techlvr said:
The black door option is right on their page. Just select the drop down box.
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The drop down option wasn't there yesterday because I was looking for it but they added it, probably after I contacted them because they got back to me last night and said it is available.
They also added the Mytouch 4G Slide to the list of phones on their site with nothing available yet two weeks ago after I contacted them the second time. I had been waiting for them to add product listing since then.

Yep the option wasn't not there yesterday, only thing now is they aren't in stock till Oct. 28 and shipping from China is another 2 weeks which total a month before it will be ship to our doors. Fudge cake -_-"
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Thats alot for a battery... A hundred dollar for 3600 and almost 50 for 1800....
Anker is 20 dollars for 1900.
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m0j09987 said:
Thats alot for a battery... A hundred dollar for 3600 and almost 50 for 1800....
Anker is 20 dollars for 1900.
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You're right it is a lot. However, from experience, I can tell you that I bought the Mugen Power slim extended and the extended with battery door (2600 mah I think) over three years ago for my G1 and both hold just as long of a charge today as the day I bought them. Also, the 2600 mah lasts around 3 days for me. Seriously, while overclocking and flashing new ROMs I never once thought "Is this ROM going to have good battery?" I just never thought about that stuff anymore.
Also, I'm a firm believer in "you get what you pay for" and I already found enough stories floating around the forums that put the idea in my head that those Anker batteries MIGHT be 1700 mah...but yeah that's more than the OEM so it is still an increase and can be considered a great deal still. I can't tell you how long Anker batteries will last because I've never owned one myself but two of those Anker batteries and a charger for less money than a lower capacity OEM almost sounds too good to be true and I'd like so see some legitimate tests on how much extra juice they are providing and for how many charges will they continue to provide it.
The plus sides for Anker: If you bought the two pack with charger then you can always have a backup and the price really is right and I did hear there is a Warranty. There are also plenty more positive stories for Anker than negative ones.
I've never owned an Anker battery so I'm not bashing it for those who have bought it and would like to buy it. You are saving a lot of money if you decide to go that route. Personally though, I just bought a $500.00 phone and I'm a little skeptical to stick in a battery that costs the same amount as a pack of AA's from Wal-Mart. So for my personal piece of mind I'd rather spend a little more on a battery that I've come to trust from previous experience.
That said, I just bought the Mugen Power 1800 (two weeks for delivery) and I'll probably pick up the 3600 as well because I do a lot of camping and I like the security of a long lasting charge on trip for a few days or more.
BTW does Anker have a website or do they just sell batteries through ebay and Amazon? I looked but I didn't see one. If anyone can point me to their site, I'd appreciate it. I was mainly curious about their Warranty. Where do you send it if the batties do go bad especially if you bought them on Amazon or ebay or something? *Edit* I just found their website. It was iAnker.com

I am the same, at first seems like an awesome battery but idk how long itll keep holding that much of a charge, anyone with insight to that?

I received my Mugen Power 1800mah. I'm on the first full charge now during a recommended 5 charge break-in period. This battery isn't rated much higher than stock so I'm really not expecting a miracle out of this one. I'm just hoping to get some more out of my day without a charge. When it's time for miracles, I'm pulling the trigger on the 3600mah.
That said, I can tell you that at least the battery is a perfect fit for the phone and there was no shoving or forcing to get it in.

siani_8, thanks for the update on the battery - keep us posted ( I know you will ) on how it goes for you.
I'm glad to hear it's a great fit, but i'd honestly expect nothing less from a company whose name oozes quality like Mugen.
I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this thread to see what comes from this.
Thanks!

NEW MUGEN POWER BATTERY INITIAL CHARGING INSTRUCTIONS
1. CHARGE BATTERY FOR 8-12 HOURS
For the first 4-5 charges, please charge the battery in the device for 8-12 hours using the main power adapter and with device turned on (Important: For the first 4-5 charges You Should charge the battery for 8-12 hours, even if your phone is showing that it is fully charged already!).
2. USE DEVICE AS NORMAL
After each charge, please use the device as normal, until device tells you the battery is very low, then recharge.
3. REPEAT 4-5 TIMES
Repeat this process for 4-5 times.
After that you can recharge the battery whenever is suitable for You, and just until your device is showing it is fully charged. Important: NEVER drain the battery completely to 0%.
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I tried to follow the initial charging instructings as best I could for the first 4 days of use. I took the phone off charge at 6:30 A.M. in the morning and had it back on by 6:30 P.M. (unless noted otherwise) to give it the full recommended 12 hours of charge.
I have no real controlled test for the Mugen Power 1800mah battery; however, I'm going to give a rundown by day of my experience so far with this battery.
I am currently using the Bulletproof ROM and stock Kernel.
For all days so far, the phone has been on the entire time unless specically noted. Also wi-fi, wifi calling, GPS, and bluetooth were enabled the entire time and power saving features remained unchecked in the settings. Screen brightness stayed at setting 1 of 3. My homescreens currently include the Weather widget, Friendstream widget, and Calender Widget.
Day 1: During day 1 of usage, I sent frequent texts to my girlfriend during the day, made a couple of short phone calls, read the news in the morning and checked my email occasionally as well as the XDA Forums. I had a stop on the way home and barely made it to the charger at 6:30.. the phone actually shut down a minute before I got it on charge so on day 1 I got 1 minute shy of 12 hours.
Day 2: The usage on day 2 was about the same as day 1 except I had to turn the brightness up all the way and use the phone heavily for about 15 minutes or so when I got home to drain the battery to 2% and put it back on charge. Again, around 12 hours of my normal usage is fair assesment of day 2.
Day 3: When I woke in the morning I booted into recovery and and reset battery stats. When I rebooted it was showing 93% *shrug* I also dropped my phone during the day and the battery fell out..ooops. Anyway, the phone life seemed to be doing a little better on the third day so I started using it more heavily. I was checking my email frequently, sending frequent texts, checking the XDA forums a lot, updated about 6 apps, checked the news app more than a few times. When I got home at 6:00 I had turn the brightness all the way up and use the phone for about 20 minutes straight to kill it to 2% and get it back on charge for 12 hours.
Day 4: I used the phone as much as I wanted to on the 4th day. I still texted as I usually would, made a couple short calls, checked the news and XDA frequently, took some pictures read the news - all standard stuff. It was Friday and I wasn't worried about getting it on charge by 6:30 so I continued to use it as normal and I made it to 8:30 before it dropped to 2%. Day 4 was 14 hours of continued usage.
I expect under the conditions of normal use I won't get much more than Day 4. I suppose if I wanted to conserve and enable power saving settings, turned off GPS during the day and only enabled bluetooth when I knew I was getting in the car then I might be able to sqeeeze out more. Of course if I played a video game on it I'm sure I'd get a whole lot less.
I am not unpleased with the results of the battery and is probably about what I expected for my my normal usage.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669497
This might help in general...link that should have made it's way here sooner. XDA review of li-ion batteries and care for them.

Just a follow up on my Experience with the Mugen 1800mah
I ran the phone yesterday with all the same criteria as my previous posts for Days 1-4 except I kept GPS and Bluetooth off all day. After 24 hours the phone was at 16% and then I put it back on charge. I was reading the XDA forums a lot yesterday, texted moderately, read news, made a few calls, took a couple of pictures and checked my email frequently. I thought that was worth sharing. Everyone uses their phones differently so individual results may vary across all batteries and phones
Obviously, I wasn't awake for 24 hours. The phone was in hibernation for 8 hours while I slept.
I do know I couldn't make it half a day on stock with my usage, so I'm pleased so far with my second phone using Mugen Power.

I was bored and decided to post some screen shots of my battery usage today on the Mugen Power 1800mah. Screen brightness was at level 1 of 3, GPS and Bluetooth off all day today. I'm still on Bulletproof ROM with Stock Kernel. 13 and half hours of pretty good use today and I'm still at 17%. BTW I just order the Mugen Power 3600mah so I can give that whirl too but I'm kind of attached to my Trident Case now so I'll probably only use that battery on long trips. We shall see. Sorry the pictures are so big!!
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just ordered one! hope its worth it!

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just ordered one! hope its worth it!
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I hope it is too! Mugen makes a quality battery and you will get more life than stock, without a doubt.
However, it should be noted that users of the Anker Battery 1900mah are reporting longer runtimes than my battery for a cheaper price. Please keep that in mind before purchasing. I've seen a couple users stating 24 hours of good use.
I don't own that battery so I'm just trying to give a detailed representation of my real world useage on the Mugen 1800mah. In my previous screenshots, it says the display was on for 4 hours total. I was using it quite a bit today, on various apps so I'm not sure why only XDA shows up in the usage. I messaged quite a bit too but I'm not sure what that shows up as. Does that fall under Dialer usage I wonder?

Tried cheap 9$ 3500mAh battery (tests included)

I found this one 3500mAh and ordered it : http://www.ebay.com/itm/251065892927
for 9$ I'm willing to give it a try (and even though it may be the exact same one from a chinese seller, I prefer to have it ship from a US location).
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Have you received/tested the battery? Interested in getting one as well
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Yea I received it a week ago, I like it so far.
The battery door you can tell is cheap when you get it, however I've gotten use to it fast, the slightly rubberized texture is a nice feel for me and seems to fit better in my hands now.
After about 2, 3 days of charge up, drain down, charge up it seems to be nicely consistent now in the power usage can easily get a couple of days out of it before needing a charge (mostly on account of both my SetCPU profile and undervolting table).
Basically once fully charged it could take about 1.5-2 hours before it would end up showing 99% on stuff like Google Music, email, Facebook, etc.
A battery screenshot back when I was doing a bit of music and background notifications (fb, email, twitter, Skype, etc logged in and notifying around 10-15 minute mark), screen not on as often, but I don't usually have my screen on all that often especially as I don't normally sit thru a game that long.
Charges pretty fast at least.
I don't remember 100% what I did at what specific time frame, but I know from 42% to 36% I was watching an Episode of Heroes so bout 40ish minutes of netflix there.
EDIT (7/26/2012):
I drained the battery down til the phone died, and used a battery monitoring app to measure the mV charging back up from 0% to 100%. Also a mAh measurement of the battery. (took about 5 hours to drain the battery down with everything running GPS, 100% screen, wifi, bluetooth, FM radio, 90%+ CPU load, etc)

Thanks for the info, I will definitely be getting one.
Hopefully it will render the same results for my phone.

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The phone it self is a brick, but this brick has ascended past a normal brick, it has become a super brick!! im not joking lol but on how do you curry that around? its like we've gone back to the 90's

tanveer2k12 said:
The phone it self is a brick, but this brick has ascended past a normal brick, it has become a super brick!! im not joking lol but on how do you curry that around? its like we've gone back to the 90's
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Lol It's not that big, I can actually put it in my pant's pocket just fine. If I can still wrap my first set of knuckles around the lip of the phone it's still not too thick, notice that the whole thing is not thicker than the width of my thumb.

it seems so uncomfortable... I imagine myself typing with that thing on my hand! Nice to know anyways that it's a real working battery!

Looks nice, thanks! I'm getting one !
Just ordered one.
How long did it take to ship to you?
( I am from Holland )

siemz said:
Looks nice, thanks! I'm getting one !
Just ordered one.
How long did it take to ship to you?
( I am from Holland )
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Being that I'm in the United States (Grand Rapids, Michigan), and the seller was also in the United States (Georgia) I paid 6/21 Thursday and received it on monday morning 6/25. One of the reasons I picked this seller was because shipping was from the US and not from China, even if the product itself was probably identical to the Chinese shippers.
If you were in Holland, Michigan (which is bout a half an hour drive from me) you'd probably get it in the same time frame. Not sure about Georgia, USA to Holland (EU), probably faster than from Shanghai maybe.
With the latest EliteKernel I'm getting even better battery life (primarily in screen off mode) so will probably be posting another screenshot in the next day or so.

kbeezie said:
Being that I'm in the United States (Grand Rapids, Michigan), and the seller was also in the United States (Georgia) I paid 6/21 Thursday and received it on monday morning 6/25. One of the reasons I picked this seller was because shipping was from the US and not from China, even if the product itself was probably identical to the Chinese shippers.
If you were in Holland, Michigan (which is bout a half an hour drive from me) you'd probably get it in the same time frame. Not sure about Georgia, USA to Holland (EU), probably faster than from Shanghai maybe.
With the latest EliteKernel I'm getting even better battery life (primarily in screen off mode) so will probably be posting another screenshot in the next day or so.
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Okai, thanks!
Cannot wait ^^

what kind of mAh does the one you got off ebay have?
and does it get hot at all?
i'm thinking of getting one of these... especially because cm9 seems to be draining my battery pretty fast.

Asjoc said:
what kind of mAh does the one you got off ebay have?
and does it get hot at all?
i'm thinking of getting one of these... especially because cm9 seems to be draining my battery pretty fast.
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The one I bought is 3500mAh (should say the same on that specific ebay listing).
Yea CM9 was eating my battery like crazy which is why I switched over to EliteMod ICS (based on the CM9 Kernel, but uses AOKP for the rest of it and his own tweaks).

virtualflyer said:
it seems so uncomfortable... I imagine myself typing with that thing on my hand! Nice to know anyways that it's a real working battery!
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I actually got one few moths ago and Ive got to say, that using hw keyboard is incredibly easy even with this battery mounted. I would say mby easier than with normal one.

cyber-mythius said:
I actually got one few moths ago and Ive got to say, that using hw keyboard is incredibly easy even with this battery mounted. I would say mby easier than with normal one.
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Yea I find it easier because the extra 'lip' on the battery door makes it easier to grasp when working in landscape mode. Normally landscape isn't a problem if you're not using the keyboard at all, but once you slide out the keyboard the working thickness you have to grab onto is effectively halved with the original battery door.

Wow, ~2 days of battery life? Is it really worth the extra bulk, though? And how long does it take to fully charge?

nicholaslimck said:
Wow, ~2 days of battery life? Is it really worth the extra bulk, though? And how long does it take to fully charge?
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The day it arrived it took about 4-5 hours to be considered 'charged', when I first got it, it said 66% but thats because it was going off the info from the stock battery when it was actually near dead. So for a couple hours it'll actually say 99% until it finally hits the top at 100%. It takes a couple of days for the battery stats to become accurate it seems, but you could go a full day easy after the first 5-6 hour charge.
I've gotten setCPU profile tweaked and undervolting as low as I can while keeping 122-1286 stable, but I don't use it 24/7 at full brightness so yes it could go without a charge for over a day and a half. (though seems longer now that the new EliteKernel is actually easier on the battery once again).
With my original stock 1300mAh battery if I were to keep it in standby I could probably best around 18-20 hours, but that is if I didn't actually have the screen on most of the time.
If I get a chance to actually run down the battery I'll get a screenshot.
Far as the bulk, it actually doesn't bother me as much as some people may think, I actually prefer the cheap semi-rubberized backing on it to the chrome door, and it's easier for me to grip especially in landscape orientation, and I don't wear tight jeans or anything like that. But yea may seem like a brick when our phones are getting thinner and thinner.
I went with that ebay listing because I didn't like how some of the more expensive offerings (22 to 80$) had a dome-like covering over the speaker as opposed to the flat flush that this has, and the gamble thus far seems to have paid off.

Hmm this is sort of unrelated to the main topic, so I'll apologize, but:
Recently, my Desire Z got some water damage. Seems to be working fine at the moment, but I notice the battery's been overheating, despite relatively moderate use, and playing games such as Bloons TD resulted in a considerably toasty back cover. Does this seem like a good time to switch out my battery?

Short answer yes, why not try out the one in the op? Seems promising!
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Thanks for answering! I'm considering a 1800mAh one though, as I prefer retaining the phone's original exterior appearance.

I just got mine about two weeks ago so here is my review. I ordered the same one as the OP on ebay and paid $6. This is one of the best mods done to my phone! I can easily get 3-4 days out of my phone before having to charge. I'm on stock GB. Sure it ads weight and thickness but not having to worry about my phone making it through my 12 hour work shift is well worth it. I previously had a 2200mah ebay battery made for the Evo 4G. The battery door no longer fit so I just used a cheap ebay case. I could get 12-14 hours out of it, but it started to wear out and I was lucky to get 10 hours out of it. This 3500mah battery is def worth it.

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I just got mine about two weeks ago so here is my review. I ordered the same one as the OP on ebay and paid $6. This is one of the best mods done to my phone! I can easily get 3-4 days out of my phone before having to charge. I'm on stock GB. Sure it ads weight and thickness but not having to worry about my phone making it through my 12 hour work shift is well worth it. I previously had a 2200mah ebay battery made for the Evo 4G. The battery door no longer fit so I just used a cheap ebay case. I could get 12-14 hours out of it, but it started to wear out and I was lucky to get 10 hours out of it. This 3500mah battery is def worth it.
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Good to know, I been pretty much on EliteMod ICS since I had the battery, but least your post gives me kind of an idea what stock would be like (or better yet what something like G2Lite 1.6 would be like).

Trying to drain down my battery, wasn't draining fast enough. So grabbed a battery draining app, gps, screen to 100%, BT, CPU load up.
Got setCPU profile set to 1286mhz, performance governor. And Spirit FM running in the background.
It's down to 33% so far, once I can get it under 5% or so I'll get it plugged in and charging up so can get an idea of the battery's minimum mv vs maximum mv, and 'measured' mAh. I previously did it from 29% to 100% with a measured mAh around 2700.

DIY extended slim battery!

So, it annoyed me the Galaxy S III battery was 2100 mah vice our 1800, but physically smaller (albeit a hair thicker)
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Here's how it looks in the Relay:
Notice the space at the bottom. The pins also do not quite reach the contacts
The solution? A shaver!
Before:
After:
Folded up Velcro dots to shim it in place:
A small piece of paper to shim on the side:
Snug but closed lid fit:

this is interesting... is the s3 battery rated at 3.8v too? also, did you really see that 16% improvement in battery life?

Battery life is better yes. And most cell phone batteries are 3.8 volts, and report as "full" at around 4.2 volts, although the app I use for battery monitoring shows the relay is charging my battery to 4.3 volts.
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The stock battery life on our phone is pretty decent. But I wonder what kind of extended slim battery options we have for our phone specifially....
Great mod Nard. The S3 battery is very common and I think all aftermarket extended slim batteries for the S3 should work as well. As long as you don't have a problem ghetto rigging it, we can get a lot more juice for out phones. And it retains NFC. Massive plus
Quite intrigued with this one:
http://www.tmart.com/2500mAh-Battery-for-Samsung-T699-Galaxy-S-Relay-4G-I415_p186313.html?ref=cj
Might give it a go in a few days

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Quite intrigued with this one:
http://www.tmart.com/2500mAh-Battery-for-Samsung-T699-Galaxy-S-Relay-4G-I415_p186313.html?ref=cj
Might give it a go in a few days
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Holy cow, an extra 28% battery life for under $5? Heck yes! Just ordered this.
Edit: Don't see NFC mentioned anywhere... I don't use NFC, but just in case I decide I want to start, I'll pick up one of these, and solder the guy on if I need to. Looks to be about the right size.

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Holy cow, an extra 28% battery life for under $5? Heck yes! Just ordered this.
Edit: Don't see NFC mentioned anywhere... I don't use NFC, but just in case I decide I want to start, I'll pick up one of these, and solder the guy on if I need to. Looks to be about the right size.
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Be wary, just because the capacity says more doesn't mean it actually is...
I'd love to know your results though
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Dropbox disabled your photo links because they're getting too much traffic =( Would you mind uploading them another way?

Good solution!!
This battery will be compatible? is the MugenPower for S3 from 2300Mah (+25%), a little thicker of stock
link
CIAWA

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Dropbox disabled your photo links because they're getting too much traffic =( Would you mind uploading them another way?
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My dropbox is back.

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My dropbox is back.
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Ahh thanks I see now. It didn't make sense without the picture.

@Nardholio
I have one S3 battery, though from KINPS with 3250mAh that I got last time, which is 5mm thick (1mm more than ours) and should be allegedly same size to the S3 stock one.
But I am not able to close the back cover when I want to use it according to your instruction. that 1mm is definitely too thick and does not let me close it.
would you please confirm that yours is 5mm also or is it less than that?
if the prior, how did you manage to close the back cover?
if the latter, i would go buy a S3 stock battery.

If it's really that tight, I would try and carefully remove the sticker and see if it fits.
Compare it to the stock battery. Shouldn't be much thicker than that
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I got a 3 pack of those batteries. All the three of them are just lying at home, their actual capacity was 2100mAh. Besides it didn't charge over 87%, which is 1800mAh approx. Don't know what the problem was, guessing it was the maximum voltage the battery could be pushed to using the phone. :/

Just let them sit overnight, they'll charge more
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I got a 3 pack of those batteries. All the three of them are just lying at home, their actual capacity was 2100mAh. Besides it didn't charge over 87%, which is 1800mAh approx. Don't know what the problem was, guessing it was the maximum voltage the battery could be pushed to using the phone. :/
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Actually the big possibility behind this is samsung has a battery overcharge feature...which is why your battery may only get that high...also Another cause might be to check and make sure your charger is outputting 5v 800ma as thats what is required by phone...i use stock charger with my 5000mah extended battery and loving it...gets full charge with both stock and extended battery....also to note...because of this overcharge feature depending on bad flash or similar it may actually brick your batteries (yes its possible). A prime example is i thought my old relay was bricked...when i got new relay i tried charging the battery from old phone and got the bootloop of death like i did on my old relay..so it got me thinking...and i placed battery from new relay and it booted right up as if a brick never happenned..i started to really research this and found ways to prevent this from ever happenning again as well as finding out about the samsung overcharge "issues" .

Besides when i used the battery, it lost charge out quite quickly and when i did a little research on the batteries, i found out given the size the batteries are likely to be fake and that the best batteries are the stock ones. The big extended batteries are however a different story altogether though. Anyway, i'd charge them overnight once and see if anything happens.
Here's hoping to the phone not bursting and burning my house down!!:fingers-crossed:

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Besides when i used the battery, it lost charge out quite quickly and when i did a little research on the batteries, i found out given the size the batteries are likely to be fake and that the best batteries are the stock ones. The big extended batteries are however a different story altogether though. Anyway, i'd charge them overnight once and see if anything happens.
Here's hoping to the phone not bursting and burning my house down!!:fingers-crossed:
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a good example...i went from 6 am to now 8:30 pm on my extended and its now at 75% batterry....i only paid 30 with tax and stuff total for my extended and happy i got it...again though...a lower voltage and ma charger will cause issues with battery drain and charge as well...like lets say you used a charger from another android device that calls for 4.5 or 5 volts but only 750ma or 500ma.... in terms it doesnt charge the phone properly causing more workload and time for battery to charge properly

I bought the extended battery of mugenpower (2300mah) for Samsung Galaxy S3. I scratched To insert the battery. The time now is charging but the cover does not close. probably also'll scratch the cover.
Soon I will insert photos of the operation.
P.S.
I spent € 37 including postage

Mugen Power battery for s3 in Relay
I am extremely satisfied with the results, the battery life has improved considerably. Now I can get to the evening, with the old battery arrived at midday
I had to scratch the back cover to be able to close.

zerolemon 3000mah

I recently purchased this for my galaxy s4. I got right at 9 hrs before it went to 0% and completely turned off. 3 hrs was non stop screen time. I did not use any battery management apps and left wifi on non stop but turned off blue tooth.
It seems like this battery only gave me about 1 he extra over stock. This is a stock replacement. I've seen a lot of Zerolemon worship videos on YouTube but no "real reviews".
Has anyone else any experience with this battery ? Doesn't seem that great.

Ok I must be the only one who owns this battery. That's OK I've always considered myself a pioneer. At any rate I checked again and same thing. No NFC, takes forever to charge, no significant change in battery time. The battery itself is larger than the stock albeit only by a millimeter or so.
Waste of money.

mikeprius said:
Ok I must be the only one who owns this battery. That's OK I've always considered myself a pioneer. At any rate I checked again and same thing. No NFC, takes forever to charge, no significant change in battery time. The battery itself is larger than the stock albeit only by a millimeter or so.
Waste of money.
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If you looked there is like a big thread about this battery a few posts down. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356581
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I wouldn't say it's a waste of money... Mine have been treating me well. Really the batteries are only about 2800 mAh or so, not an actual 3000, but I'd still prefer the extra hour or so even if it takes away NFC (that I never use).
Here's the best I've gotten with this battery all on LTE.
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I returned the 3000mah battery today.
The 3000mah is 600mah over stock. So in theory you should get +20% more battery time. My Samsung was about 8 hrs which is I believe what samsung claims anyway. So in theory I should get an additional 96 minutes of time. Using touchwiz I got the most 56 minutes.
For me an additional 56 min does not warrant $20. I'd rather take the 20 and buy the bigger 7500mah or keep it slim stock and buy an external that I plug up. Some. A disagree with me but 56 minutes is negligible. 96 minutes would be better as my phone rips through power.
I definitely did not get the same time as you did but I'm using TW and not ASOP. Then again I used it in the manner I normally would and disabled juice defender. Juice defender is pretty good and works well on aggressive setting and helps extended battery life.....
I just personally did not find value in the battery.

Just ran my Samsung battery again and recharged it. It lasted about 8 hrs 20 min this past time. It charged faster than the Zerolemon as well. I may try Ankor or another extended battery. The actual door batteries seem to be better value. My friend got the mophie juice pack for $99. No NFC, no USB OTG, bulky, 2300mah. That's a pretty bad deal the case is huge and that's way too expensive for such little battery..I use USB OTG alot

I have the Zerolemon slim line I don't remember mah but I have had good luck with it. I have gone two days on it, making phone calls and social media . Go figure I guess it the luck of the draw.

Better Suggestion
I'm looking for a better battery, but it has to have a thin enough back case that the touchstone hack would work. Suggestions?

mikeprius said:
I returned the 3000mah battery today.
The 3000mah is 600mah over stock.
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The original Samsung Battery has 2600 mah and the Zerolemon claims to have 3000. That's 400 more not 600.

Good point, I did re-read this thread. I know a friend who also got this battery a little after I did and kept it. I told him about my extra time, and he approximately did get 1hr extra over stock as well. He's had it now for a month, and he says the time now is equivalent to stock (i.e. the extra hour does not seem to take hold anymore).
At any rate, with a spotty experience it is hard to justify over just buying a stock Samsung battery if you need the extra capacity. I don't mind losing the NFC over extra battery time, but the results are negligible at best.

amazing :good:

mikeprius said:
Just ran my Samsung battery again and recharged it. It lasted about 8 hrs 20 min this past time. It charged faster than the Zerolemon as well. I may try Ankor or another extended battery. The actual door batteries seem to be better value. My friend got the mophie juice pack for $99. No NFC, no USB OTG, bulky, 2300mah. That's a pretty bad deal the case is huge and that's way too expensive for such little battery..I use USB OTG alot
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How about a Onite one?It is popular on Amazon.

Hermosa said:
How about a Onite one?It is popular on Amazon.
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I never tried it. What I ultimately did was get a portable battery pack and another Samsung battery. The portable battery pack can charge the phone on the fly with the USB cord and also charge any other phones or devices. The spare Samsung battery is for a battery swap if I need the phone ASAP.
The first Samsung battery I got was a fake, so I just went to Fry's Electronics and bought retail an authentic Samsung battery. I knew the Samsung battery was a fake because around 13% it would be become unstable and just turn off. It never went systematically to 0. It just was a toss up when the phone died under 13%. Eventually the battery would just completely die in 2 hrs.
This what I'll do in the future is just buy a spare stock battery. I already have a universal portable battery pack.
I looked at all options. The ZeroLemon extended batteries are bulky (the big ones) and heavy. For anyone who holds and uses their phone a lot, the phone becomes very big to just take in and out of the pocket frequently. Plus it looks horrible in my opinion. If you feel that is a great option for you, more power to you. I take a lot of pictures with my phone, and that battery pack isn't happening.
I also looked at battery pack cases which were not my thing. You buy a Mophie case that makes the phone so huge and only charges your phone to 80% ? For a whopping $100. What a deal.
I bought a spare authentic Samsung battery from Fry's for like $30 or so. My phone is slim, I can take pictures easily, and when I socialize with women and get their numbers, they aren't laughing at my ridiculous phone lol.

I like my zero lemon batteries actually. I got what I paid for. Marginal batteries which help me get through the day. I didn't expect some magical change. They are 10 bucks how much did you think they would help? I like the red charger and I swap between the two batteries I got. Beats carrying around a charger I just pop the other battery in and I'm good for the day.

That's fair. They just were not my thing. I'm content with another genuine Samsung battery. One of my friends got one and still has it. He said that the additional time is not there anymore, and they have the same life as the Samsung batterys. Not sure if it is his battery or how they really are, but I'm content not having it. Plus the battery creates a very minor bulge at the back. I had a very tight fitting case on when I tried the battery and it created a minor gap.
If you like them more power to you, but I don't care for their products.

I have a 3000mah battery.. idk what brand.. it was a gift. So to get the most outta my L720t I bought a $9.99 wall mounting battery charger. And at night I'll charge both my Samsung battery and the extended life one. I use my Samsung till it's dead.. then I'll pop in the slightly bigger one. This way I always know I'll have enough juice..
Thanks for all your input guys.. I was wondering weather or not to get another 3000mah battery.. I'll stick with what's working... lol

I get over 4hrs of on-screen time on my stock battery in my gs4 that I bought the first week in may 2013. I was considering the zerolemon 3000mah but idk now. worst case scenario is that I can always return it if I see no improvement over stock

Just depends on what your need is. Are your guy's cases super tight fitting ? There will be a slight bulge at the back, full disclosure, so if it is extremely tight fitting that might be an issue. Do you have an aluminum backplate battery cover ? Again, you might run into problem it's not a 100% OEM fit, more like 97%.
I just don't think it is worth the hassle since the stock battery works fine and fits fine plus has Samsung quality control, but that's just me. The questionable benefit, unknown quality of the battery, and bulge at the back isn't my thing.