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Removing stock applications from the stock rom before install

Please tell me if this is feasable.
I was retarded and never bothered to Root my incredible when it was possible to do on 2.1
It obviously isn't possible using revoked/simple root/ or any other methods after 2.2 (not yet anyway)
I would like to remove the stock annoying apps(amazon,cityid, etc) from my phone entirely/rename them, but I can't. I can't because without root access you cant rename/delete files from the system/app folder on the phone, and you cannot force an unintall of these programs.
I recently downloaded the update.zip file from google for the 2.2 update(since I didnt want to wait for the OTA update). Do you think it is possible to remove the apk's you dont want from the stock 2.2 google rom since they are located in the same folder system/app within the rom files. Then rezip the rom files and reflash your phone with the edited rom files which would not include all this bloat crap stuff I do not want?
I cant think of a reason why it wouldn't work / be possible??? thoughts?

strunker said:
Please tell me if this is feasable.
I was retarded and never bothered to Root my incredible when it was possible to do on 2.1
It obviously isn't possible using revoked/simple root/ or any other methods after 2.2 (not yet anyway)
I would like to remove the stock annoying apps(amazon,cityid, etc) from my phone entirely/rename them, but I can't. I can't because without root access you cant rename/delete files from the system/app folder on the phone, and you cannot force an unintall of these programs.
I recently downloaded the update.zip file from google for the 2.2 update(since I didnt want to wait for the OTA update). Do you think it is possible to remove the apk's you dont want from the stock 2.2 google rom since they are located in the same folder system/app within the rom files. Then rezip the rom files and reflash your phone with the edited rom files which would not include all this bloat crap stuff I do not want?
I cant think of a reason why it wouldn't work / be possible??? thoughts?
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Since you are using the stock recovery to install a stock ROM/update that is signed by them with keys the that you don't have, I would say NO. You'll have to get root first and install a customer recovery in order to install custom ROMs. If you modify the stock ROM/update and resign it, it will be a custom ROM/update at that point.

gnarlyc said:
Since you are using the stock recovery to install a stock ROM/update that is signed by them with keys the that you don't have, I would say NO. You'll have to get root first and install a customer recovery in order to install custom ROMs. If you modify the stock ROM/update and resign it, it will be a custom ROM/update at that point.
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Ty for the response.
That is exactly the issue I ran into..
I wasnt able to figure out how to get past their md5/signed file check.
I am not sure if the bootlader/recovery console checks the file size or contents. What I tried to do originally was extract all the files in the update.zip package and make my changes then rezip them. Obviously this method failed because I had to repackage it and as a result it was no longer signed.
What I then tried was to edit the actual update.zip without extracting first. I figured this way the file itself would still be signed and I would be able to use it.
It generated a different error than I had seen the first time, but ultimately failed the check again..
Made me sad. I really wanted to get rid of all that crap. VZnavigator process is a memory hog. I dont need it at all, not with google maps which comes stock on the phone.. And to add to that, you cant even kill the process because as soon as you do it just starts again... So.. GG verizon
At this point I really only have two options..
1) Wait for 2.2 stock rom to be rooted. If this ever happens, I have faith that it will.
2.) Revert back to 2.1, s-off perma root and then manually load in 2.2 over that..

Have you tried that androot.apk? I was under the assumption that it was "universal".
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

ddotpatel said:
Have you tried that androot.apk? I was under the assumption that it was "universal".
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
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I have not. What I did instead was use 3.2 unrevoked which works on 2.2
I am not sure what androot.apk is I will look into it out of curiosity.

[GUIDE] Universal AndRoot - 1-click root
give it a try....

[Q] Can't Update!

OK, so I finally got the system update for the D2G yesterday. I'm not new to this whole game, so I removed Clockworkmod, unrooted, and installed the update. The update downloads fine, but the with the little Android guy screen, I get an "!" in a triangle and then the phone reboots.
Maybe I didn't remove clockwork all the way? Don't you delete hijack and logwrapper, and then rename the logwrapper.bin to logwrapper?

well basiclly the phone needs to be untouch in terms of the file structure, in my case, I deleted a few of the stock apk files and when I tried to do the update it would fail because the stock apps were missing and the update is a patch not a full system OS so it cant install the default apps, I had to install them back to the system/app with root explorer and then set the permissions back to what they needed to be, unforchenitly a hard reset would not install the stock apps. Also make sure anything that the root touched has been set back to default

I have the same problem too. I can't get the update to work at all after installing Fission ROM. I even restored from a nandroid from a fresh D2G. It worked fine on the untouched phone tho. I checked all the files in the /system/app and they were there. Is there any magical restore .zip perhaps?
If anyone is looking for the update: http://dump.no/files/2501381a2bd4/Blur_Version.2.4.29.A956.Verizon.en.US.zip MD5: a493e4efc9d27c8932d604806f817a85

evilp8ntballer7 said:
well basiclly the phone needs to be untouch in terms of the file structure, in my case, I deleted a few of the stock apk files and when I tried to do the update it would fail because the stock apps were missing and the update is a patch not a full system OS so it cant install the default apps, I had to install them back to the system/app with root explorer and then set the permissions back to what they needed to be, unforchenitly a hard reset would not install the stock apps. Also make sure anything that the root touched has been set back to default
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I never touched anything... I stopped using Titanium Backup a long time ago when I uninstalled everything verizon and had the same OTA problem you described. I am at a loss for the problem that I have! All I ever did was root and put on clockwork, and I made sure they were gone when I updated.
Please, someone help!

did you uninstall of freeze any of the stock apps in /system/app? You need to restore them in order to successfully apply the OTA update. One file missing or modified in /system and checksums will fail/update fails.

leobg said:
did you uninstall of freeze any of the stock apps in /system/app? You need to restore them in order to successfully apply the OTA update. One file missing or modified in /system and checksums will fail/update fails.
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the only time I touched anything in /system was when I removed clockwork by deleting hijack and renaming logwrapper.bin. Can anyone give me a number of files I'm supposed to have in /system, or maybe a way to go back to stock. Man, that SBF would be mighty helpful right now...

There is system dump laying around. I'll PM you the link (not sure if appropriate to post it here). You can use it to compare content and recover missing file(s).

leobg said:
There is system dump laying around. I'll PM you the link (not sure if appropriate to post it here). You can use it to compare content and recover missing file(s).
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Hi, I've been trying to find an answer, and I think you could help me.
I had the same problem as this person you were helping, but I already knew that I should look through the system dump and compare. I did that, and deleted one file called dbus.conf from /system/ect. Now, my phone just does the DROID animation over and over again! Please help, I made a copy of dbus.conf on my computer and did a nandroid backup. Please, you or someone else on here, HELP!

So you are in a boot loop. If you can't get the phone to boot into clockwork recovery, today is your lucky day! SBF was finally released!!! Get the SBF and reflash /system

leobg said:
So you are in a boot loop. If you can't get the phone to boot into clockwork recovery, today is your lucky day! SBF was finally released!!! Get the SBF and reflash /system
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Where is it? Isn't it only available to those with some app called TBH (or something like that)? And now I have to wait for a public release? And, if I'm wrong, can you give me a link to thee file? I can't find it anywhere...
Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it!

I would recommend you to approach the team black hat members and talk to them directly about how to get the sbf while your phone is non functional.
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL

But where is the system update located? I checked on the verizon website and there is nothing there. Also, do you have to be a verizon customer to get the update?
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using XDA App

[Q] Rooted EVO needs help after new kernel flashed.

I rooted my HTC EVO, then wanted a new kernel for better battery, wanted the new gingerbread ROM too but after I rooted, I deleted a few unwanted, stock apps. After I did this, I started to get a lot of force close messages. Certain apps won't even open. So I tried to unzip a new kernel and I wiped all my data from the hboot. Now it starts up, will go to locked home screen. I try to unlock it, it's the white htc screen then loads into the set up (i.e. keyboard usage, etc) and in the last step a force close message pops up then goes through the whole scenario again. Now I want to just put a whole new system on so I can have my evo back. HELP?

emiliah310 said:
I rooted my HTC EVO, then wanted a new kernel for better battery, wanted the new gingerbread ROM too but after I rooted, I deleted a few unwanted, stock apps. After I did this, I started to get a lot of force close messages. Certain apps won't even open. So I tried to unzip a new kernel and I wiped all my data from the hboot. Now it starts up, will go to locked home screen. I try to unlock it, it's the white htc screen then loads into the set up (i.e. keyboard usage, etc) and in the last step a force close message pops up then goes through the whole scenario again. Now I want to just put a whole new system on so I can have my evo back. HELP?
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Download the rom, kernel, and Gapps (http://www.goo-inside.me/gapps/latest/7/) on your computer. Boot into recovery. I don't use Clockwork, and I'm assuming you rooted with Unrevoked, so that's probably the recovery you have, but try to find the option to mount your SD card via USB, and move the files to your SD card. Do not unzip them. They must be .zip files. Unmount your SD card, wipe your data, wipe your cache, wipe your Dalvik cache, repeat all the wipes at least one more time, then flash the .zips in this order: 1. ROM 2. Gapps 3. kernel. Then reboot, and you should have a working system.

If you use ROM Manager and created a backup then you could flash (install) the OTA ROM Sprint sent out a few months back. This OTA ROM will be for the Rooted evo, so you won't lose root. Go to youtube.com and search this, "How to install new Sprint Htc Evo OTA 3.29.651.5 and keep root." In his comments he'll provide the link to that zip file and you can flash it from the recovery mode. Make sure you wipe the dalvik/cache and then flash zip file from sd card. It will appear to look like your initial problem but it will get passed the white htc screen. You could turn it off and turn it on again if HTC screen stays longer than 10 min. Once the ROM kicks in, you'll notice its stripped of all your cusomizations. If you used rom manager to back up your ROM then redownload ROM manager from market and the superuser app that came with the OTA zip file will allow ROM manager to run. At that point select manager and restore backups from ROM manager and select your backup and it should put you back to where you were prior to the problem.
Sorry so long, but I'm very detailed and don't want to assume you know what I'm talking about.
P.S. similar situation happened to me yesterday I fixed my issue like described above.
Another Thing haha, don't delete your stock apps just freeze them using Titanium backup. Freezing does the same thing for battery life. You wont see them in app drawer and they wont run in background.

I have screwed up

Epic 4G
Rooted my phone last night, everything went well. All I was going to do was make my phone compatible with netflix, so I edited my build.prop to do that. All that process did was make my Swype keyboard stop working.
The first time, I used ES File Manager to copy build.prop out of the system folder, pasted to SD card, edited it, cut it from SD card and I put it back in system, overwriting the build.prop that was in there. No problems. When I attempted to do that again, I got the error "build.prop cannot be moved!" I did the exact same process, only now it wasn't letting me do it.
So I was googling ways to restore build.prop, and someone said to flash a different rom. I attempted to flash Syndicate ROM. I followed all the instructions just as there were at Samsung Epic Hacks.com, and now my phone is frozen at the first screen that happens on boot "Samsung/ww w.samsungmobile.com"
I also attempted to reflash the Froyo update from Sprint, that had no results.

So you flashed a different ROM to the one you already were using without wiping?
If so then it's no wonder your device is now stuck in a boot loop. I would say go into recovery do a full wipe and reflash.
For future reference get Root Explorer and when you use that to modify build.prop it will automatically create a backup. No need to paste it onto SD etc...
Just remember to mount System R/W within the program.
Good Luck!

[Q] Modify Stock firmware through CWM backup mods

Hi, I have a GT-S7500 (wife's phone) with stock firmware and CWM. For some reason as soon as I root it, tried many different methods, camera and camcorder (and sometimes wireless) stop working. The thing is i don't really want to root this phone - but I really need to remove bloat Samsung and Italian TIM apps from it because the phone is unusable. (This means: freshly pushed stock firmware has 10-15 useless system processes and services running resulting in 70-80% of RAM usage)
So, I need to remove bloatware without rooting the phone. This is my starting point(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534349#post23343879)
I'd like to take the "system.ext4.tar" from my CWM backup, extract, manually remove unwanted apk and odex files from it repack and push it back to the phone. Sounds fun!
Q1: "system.ext4.tar" is a normal .tar file, right? so when I'm finished i just use tar (i'm on *nix)
Q2: The above guide does not say but what is the best way to "push" the system partition back to the phone? My idea was to substitute the "system.ext4.tar" with its modded version right in the CWM backup folder (calculate and change md5 checksum in nandroid.md5) and then execute a restore from CWM. You think that would work? Is there another way to do this(ODIN)?
thanks
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Android Kitchen
Ok, I found Android Kitchen(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246) and it resolved all my questions and doubts. You can take apart any rom (stock or custom) modify and repack it for CWM install. Thanx xda!