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I've got a question regarding titanium backup.
I've installed the ARHD 3.6.0 ROM. Installed all my apps, setup my desktop screen exactly how I want it & finally FROZE via titanium backup pro, all the applications I don't want showing in my drawer.
Can anyone give me a dummies guide on how to make a carbon copy of my exact setup please? So that when I install a new update like 3.6.1, I can just run that backup file and it will freeze all my unwanted applications & set my desktop back to how it was..
Do I need to buy a different piece of software to achieve this?
Thank you
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stanny2k said:
I've got a question regarding titanium backup.
I've installed the ARHD 3.6.0 ROM. Installed all my apps, setup my desktop screen exactly how I want it & finally FROZE via titanium backup pro, all the applications I don't want showing in my drawer.
Can anyone give me a dummies guide on how to make a carbon copy of my exact setup please? So that when I install a new update like 3.6.1, I can just run that backup file and it will freeze all my unwanted applications & set my desktop back to how it was..
Do I need to buy a different piece of software to achieve this?
Thank you
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Hi,
You just want to be able to port all your settings from one ROM to another.
It all depends on the "base" of the new ROM.
If it's the SAME "base" then you can just wipe your cache partition and dalvik,install the ROM and keep all your settings intact.
If it's a DIFFERENT "base",then there is no way of porting your settings.If you did,it would cause conflicts down the road.
With a different based ROM you can carry across your app DATA using Titanium Backup.
What you cannot do ,is carry across "system data". Again this will create conflicts after a while.Even with a same based ROM.
What you have done with your freezing and everything ,is change system data.This cannot be ported between ROMS.Sorry.
Hope all that makes sense.

Thanks for your response.
I find this incredibly hard to believe.. Im not saying what you are saying isnt true. But surely to god there must be some sort of backup software that can see that I've frozen things like "Dock Mode" & "Downloads" create an image of the files I've frozen, once I then install an update to my ROM I select that backup to run and & goes through & freezes the things I had frozen before...
Im freezing things out of my App drawer, so I dont have hundreds of icons in there... Im not freezing any system files or anything like that...
Its literally things like:
Adobe Reader
Connected Media
Dock Mode
Downloads
Flashlight
FM Radio
Friend Stream
Google Search
HTB HUB
HTC Likes...
etc etc. Just things that create icons with my app drawer that I'll never use.
Thanks

You can save desktop settings and data from apps when switching roms. You would have to freeze those apps again on a clean install of a new rom. Its the best and cleanest way possible to ensure the installation is running at its peak. Just freeze the apps you don't want again. I haven't tried an app that remembers and backs up frozen apps.

I think it will be easier if I get the Package Names of all the Apps I wanna freeze then everytime I install a new ROM, just 'pm disable' the list of package names via the terminal emulator.

stanny2k said:
Thanks for your response.
I find this incredibly hard to believe.. Im not saying what you are saying isnt true. But surely to god there must be some sort of backup software that can see that I've frozen things like "Dock Mode" & "Downloads" create an image of the files I've frozen, once I then install an update to my ROM I select that backup to run and & goes through & freezes the things I had frozen before...
Im freezing things out of my App drawer, so I dont have hundreds of icons in there... Im not freezing any system files or anything like that...
Its literally things like:
Adobe Reader
Connected Media
Dock Mode
Downloads
Flashlight
FM Radio
Friend Stream
Google Search
HTB HUB
HTC Likes...
etc etc. Just things that create icons with my app drawer that I'll never use.
Thanks
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Hi,
I know what you are saying.
You just want to get from one ROM to the next with the minimum of faffing around.
Like I said ,going to a new ROM with the same base is easy.
Otherwise it's a COMPLETE re-installation.
On another note ,if you look on mike's [OP] just above the changelog section,there is a thing called "ROM CLEANER"
I have not used this,but I believe you can remove any apk or app you do not want to use ,BEFORE the installation.

malybru said:
Hi,
I know what you are saying.
You just want to get from one ROM to the next with the minimum of faffing around.
Like I said ,going to a new ROM with the same base is easy.
Otherwise it's a COMPLETE re-installation.
On another note ,if you look on mike's [OP] just above the changelog section,there is a thing called "ROM CLEANER"
I have not used this,but I believe you can remove any apk or app you do not want to use ,BEFORE the installation.
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Cheers dude. I'll check it out. Thanks
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that is what I want exactly. Titanium should remember what has been frozen and freeze them next time when I flashed a new ROM.
Any other tools can do this?
This should not be difficult to implement. Any other tool can do this?
stanny2k said:
Thanks for your response.
I find this incredibly hard to believe.. Im not saying what you are saying isnt true. But surely to god there must be some sort of backup software that can see that I've frozen things like "Dock Mode" & "Downloads" create an image of the files I've frozen, once I then install an update to my ROM I select that backup to run and & goes through & freezes the things I had frozen before...
Im freezing things out of my App drawer, so I dont have hundreds of icons in there... Im not freezing any system files or anything like that...
Its literally things like:
Adobe Reader
Connected Media
Dock Mode
Downloads
Flashlight
FM Radio
Friend Stream
Google Search
HTB HUB
HTC Likes...
etc etc. Just things that create icons with my app drawer that I'll never use.
Thanks
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henrik.dk said:
that is what I want exactly. Titanium should remember what has been frozen and freeze them next time when I flashed a new ROM.
Any other tools can do this?
This should not be difficult to implement. Any other tool can do this?
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In the premium version there is a setting that says Auto-Sync TB settings. Tick this. Then follow this guide and you will Freeze all the apps you had no matter how many Roms you change.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1173709

thanks a lot. This help a lot.
Panagiotis. said:
In the premium version there is a setting that says Auto-Sync TB settings. Tick this. Then follow this guide and you will Freeze all the apps you had no matter how many Roms you change.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1173709
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stanny2k said:
I've got a question regarding titanium backup.
I've installed the ARHD 3.6.0 ROM. Installed all my apps, setup my desktop screen exactly how I want it & finally FROZE via titanium backup pro, all the applications I don't want showing in my drawer.
Can anyone give me a dummies guide on how to make a carbon copy of my exact setup please? So that when I install a new update like 3.6.1, I can just run that backup file and it will freeze all my unwanted applications & set my desktop back to how it was..
Do I need to buy a different piece of software to achieve this?
Thank you
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For what you want a nandroid backup is much easier. Just go to recovery and make a backup. If you want to restore just superwipe and restore the backup from recovery again, and everything will be exactly in the state as when you made the backup.
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[Q] How do you keep from starting at square one when you fkash a new ROM?

Hey,
I'm new to all this ROM flashing stuff. I did a couple and they worked overall pretty well (I didn't expect flawless), but each time I've had to reconfigure the device all over again, reinstall all apps, etc. Any easy way to avoid doing this? It ends up leading to a lot of wasted time I could be spending finding other ways to mess with my phone...hehe.
John

Sync up all your contacts and use titanium backup for restoring and backing up apps.
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vintshave said:
Hey,
I'm new to all this ROM flashing stuff. I did a couple and they worked overall pretty well (I didn't expect flawless), but each time I've had to reconfigure the device all over again, reinstall all apps, etc. Any easy way to avoid doing this? It ends up leading to a lot of wasted time I could be spending finding other ways to mess with my phone...hehe.
John
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i bought titanium backup exactly for this reason. the paid version installs everything very fast and automatically, the free version is still helpful but you have to manually press install and ok on every app.

Also along with TB try to remember to make a "Safe" NAND backup for your phone when it is set up and working great. This is a life saver when you flash an awesome "insert something here" and it eff's up your phone you then have a clean working backup to return to with little fuss. Rom manager does it along with a few others. Welcome to the fun. Remember to READ the forum carefully their have been a lot of Hard bricks lately because people tried to install a non compatible ROM.

Titanium backup is the way to go. I want to make an android application that restores all your data from a nandroid backup after you flash a new ROM...
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Thanks for asking this!
Thanks for asking this! I've flashed custom ROMs on my old phone, but started over from square one each time. I assumed everyone did this. I've heard of Titanium Backup many times, but I guess I always assumed people just wanted a safety net. I didn't realize you could use it to "re-install" apps into a newly flashed ROM.

M0D1441 said:
Titanium backup is the way to go. I want to make an android application that restores all your data from a nandroid backup after you flash a new ROM...
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Oh do it mod!
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M0D1441 said:
Titanium backup is the way to go. I want to make an android application that restores all your data from a nandroid backup after you flash a new ROM...
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You mean like app extractor?
Its in the market
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00mred00 said:
You mean like app extractor?
Its in the market
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who makes this?

Go to the market and buy titanium back up its, the best out there after flashing rom go to titanium back up again and Pico the apps you want back on you device or reinstall them all

I use SMS backup and restore too when I wipe all my phone data, which I found in the market. It backups your text messages to sd card before you wipe and you can restore after. I find it quite helpful.

Make sure you restore apps only withTB don't restore data it can cause problems. I only restore data on a small hand full of apps individually.
If you use a custom launcher they can usually back up seeing and home screen use that.
I would suggest making a nand backup of a fresh stock rom before you install apps as to keep its size small
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Also important to mention that if you go between different versions of Android then never restore system data as it will usually cause force closes
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sk8erwitskil said:
i bought titanium backup exactly for this reason. the paid version installs everything very fast and automatically, the free version is still helpful but you have to manually press install and ok on every app.
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Yeah, I download Titanium and its da bomb, however, I was a bit concerned about overwriting system apps. If you do a complete restore, won't you bugger up your newly flashed device completely? I also noticed that when, for example, I restored Amazon WITH data, it made me enter my id and pw all over again.
Fortunately, I haven't bricked mine yet. I'm eager to avoid doing that as it would cost me $$$$ to replace it. Is it a problem returning a bricked device under warranty by essentially playing "dumb" user?

I only back up user apps.
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What about when your just updating a rom? Do you still need to wipe and restore with TB or can you just flash the update?
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Advanced restore in cwm, make a nandroid before you flash, then choose advanced restore and restore data, good to go, no app needed
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I always use Titanium backup for restoring the apps... There are a few in the market but most of them did not work well for me (although they have quite good rating). I have a Titanium free so I have to select the apps I want to re-install and do it one at a time if you are willing to spend money I will say that you get the paid version where it is much easier to re-install
N'joy

luigic81 said:
Advanced restore in cwm, make a nandroid before you flash, then choose advanced restore and restore data, good to go, no app needed
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Thank God I'm not the only one who knows this.

luigic81 said:
Advanced restore in cwm, make a nandroid before you flash, then choose advanced restore and restore data, good to go, no app needed
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To be honest, I didn't know about this. And so this works when going from any ROM to any ROM?? It's as simple as that? No special considerations for certain situations?

What is the easiest method to change between ROM's?

Hello, and thank you for reading.
I'm a newbie when it comes to ROM's and all concerning them.
So I've been running the latest version of TrickDroid for quite a while now but would like to try some AOSP ROM's also (Liquid/CM/etc.).
As it might happen that I don't like them or I wanted to try an unstable ROM (for testing JB), how could I easily switch back to TrickDroid?
Is there such a thing as multi-boot or anyhting similar?
Should I take a full back with TWRP or what?
And can I have the same apps working with same system/app data on different ROM's; if I restore a full TB it should work fine, right?
Thank you very much.

No multi boot, but take a backup in TWRP and you're back to trickdroid quick enough if you restore it. I never tried restoring apps and appdata with TB as its not recommended especially when going to a ROM on another base like say from trickdroid to liquid or CM. Also stuff like SMS and call logs are tricky since the HTC mms and dialer are not available on AOSP roms so nowhere to restore appdata to.

So other apps should be fine except SMS and call logs?
But shouldn't 'SMS Backup & Restore' be able to put your messages into any ROM no matter what it's based on?
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I use titanium backup to restore APPS + DATA on every rom and it has never failed me once.
It even works when jumping between all types of roms i've installed, including: CM, AOSP, sense based and MIUI.
My procedure is always.
1. Make a full backup in TWRP
2. use SMS Backup & Restore for my messages
3. use titanium backup > click batch selection > select Backup all new user apps & newer versions
4. still in Titanium batch selection > select Redo backups for modified data
This way you are straight back to the way you had everything, no matter what rom your on. you only have to redo your home screen

Tb can backup and restore user apps on any Rom.
But you cannot restore system apps between sense and asop
User apps are only downloaded apps so you can restore anywhere even on different phones
You could also if your using a diff launcher back it up and restore it then u won't even have to set up your homescreens.
Hope that clears it up.
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Thank you everyone.
This helps a lot.
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you could also use ROM manager or Goo manager BETA.. those two apps are available in play store and you can flash ROMs directly from there

Need a few clarifications prior to attempting to flash my first custom ROM...

Hello All,
I've already successfully rooted and installed CWM touch.
I have also spend hours and hours reading the forums before actually attempting to flash my first ROM. To which the process seems straight forward.
But after all I have read, I still have some questions and need some clarifications on few things. I hope someone can take the time to answer them for me.
CWM nandroid backups only backup the current ROM. No apps, settings, or personal data.
Titanium backups contain all the Apps and their settings.
Questions regarding Titanium Backups:
- Do the "settings" backups include login credentials (username/password)?
- Does it backup system type settings? WiFi hotspots, keys, sync accounts, etc? I noticed Wifi in the backup list, but wanted to confirm.
- What, if any, system/app settings are not included in a Titanium backup?
Non-Titanium Backup Questions:
- What is used to backup pics, music, downloads, and other personal data?
- Is a full factory reset suggested/recommended when switching between ROMs (i.e CM9 to SkyICS)? Or is this an overkill, and wiping is enough?
- If I ever chose to perform a full factory reset. Do I just restore everything from Titanium Backup?
- Are there any backup items which I should avoid restoring?
- Is there anything which won't be restored?
Basically I don't want to be caught with my pants down and find out I lost XYZ should something go wrong, or should I ever do a factory reset.
Thanks in advance for any information/guidance anybody can provide.
Best Regards,
Gavin

Nandroid:
Backs up everything on your phone.
All you data, settings, apps, personal data. EVERYTHING.
TB:
Backs up apps+ App data
It also backs up your wifi settings and sync account info.
If you install a fresh ROM you can use TB to reinstall your apps +app data and other things you select.
As for your pictures, music, download, ext. You don't need to worry about these. You can do a factory reset and you will still have all your music, pictures, ext.
Rom:
Every ROM has it's own method of instillation and updating.
Standard method:
1. Factory Reset/Wipe Data
2. Wipe Cache
3. Advance Settings -> Wipe Dalvik Cache
4. Mounts and Storage -> Format /Data
5. Mounts and Storage -> Format /System
6. Mounts and Storage -> Format /Cache
Now your safe to install a fresh new ROM.

Thanks!
Sounds like switching between ROMs isn't as painful as I thought.
I've been wanting to, but dreading to because of all the configurings I thought I would have to redo.

I use titanium backup as well as mybackup pro for holding onto senstive info for reinstallation on new roms. They are a power combo for apks, contacts, sms logs, bookmarks, etc. The list goes on, but they've gotten me through a few tough spots!
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Nandroid backs up everything EXCEPT the radio (modem). You'll need to flash a radio after a nandroid restore IF you want a different radio than what is currently on modem partition.

Coming from a relatively new Android/linux user with a background firmly rooted in Windows, I assure you that the process of flashing is definitely much less harrowing than it sounds.
Reading + discretion = winning!
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Shankre said:
Thanks!
Sounds like switching between ROMs isn't as painful as I thought.
I've been wanting to, but dreading to because of all the configurings I thought I would have to redo.
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If you've read everything (which it seems like you have) and you're careful to follow the dev's instructions to the letter, it's really easy. The whole process only takes about 10 minutes from backup to rebooting the new ROM once you're used to it.

robcore said:
I use titanium backup as well as mybackup pro for holding onto senstive info for reinstallation on new roms. They are a power combo for apks, contacts, sms logs, bookmarks, etc. The list goes on, but they've gotten me through a few tough spots!
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Does Titanium backup not save sms, call logs and such?
What does mybackup pro do that Titanium doesn't? Is it for redundancy/peace of mind?
How do people backup personal data, pics, downloads, music, etc? I like to have backups in case the phone is ever lost or broken.
Thanks!

Shankre said:
Does Titanium backup not save sms, call logs and such?
What does mybackup pro do that Titanium doesn't? Is it for redundancy/peace of mind?
How do people backup personal data, pics, downloads, music, etc? I like to have backups in case the phone is ever lost or broken.
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I won't speak to Tibu saving call logs, etc., because I'm not sure. I don't restore system data (unless I'm having a stupid moment), as it can cause problems that force a re-wipe and re-flash.
I can tell you that the easiest way to back up personal data etc. is to move it off of the phone/SD card and onto your computer ASAP. That's how I do it.

I am still on AT&T GB 2.3.5.
Looking for a daily driver that's stable and good on the battery. Basic apps ok, but no carrier bloat.
Preferably JB if they are stable, otherwise ICS is fine.
Any ROM suggestions to start with first. There seem to be so many out there... Dont know which to try. The nexus mod and unnamed seemed interesting but were abandonded. CM10? Skyics (margerine)? Other?
Also, why would I want or need a different/modified kernel?
Thanks again everyone for the very helpful info!

T.J. Bender said:
I won't speak to Tibu saving call logs, etc., because I'm not sure. I don't restore system data (unless I'm having a stupid moment), as it can cause problems that force a re-wipe and re-flash.
I can tell you that the easiest way to back up personal data etc. is to move it off of the phone/SD card and onto your computer ASAP. That's how I do it.
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Yup, its as easy as plugging in a usb cord then dragging and dropping to your pc ( dont ask me about macs...). And titanium backup is primarily an apk backup/restore/freeze application, including system apps.
The other info just isnt an included feature in TB, youd have to ask its developer why.
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Shankre said:
I am still on AT&T GB 2.3.5.
Looking for a daily driver that's stable and good on the battery. Basic apps ok, but no carrier bloat.
Preferably JB if they are stable, otherwise ICS is fine.
Any ROM suggestions to start with first. There seem to be so many out there... Dont know which to try. The nexus mod and unnamed seemed interesting but were abandonded. CM10? Skyics (margerine)? Other?
Also, why would I want or need a different/modified kernel?
Thanks again everyone for the very helpful info!
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No rom suggestions try them yourself as asking for a best rom is not accepted by our moderators
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Illnevertell said:
No rom suggestions try them yourself as asking for a best rom is not accepted by our moderators
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I didn't ask for a "best", since I know each ROM has its pros and cons.
Was hoping for some direction based on the needs/preferences mentioned.
Also was inquired as to the stability of current JB releases, as well as opinions for some ROMs which I had already identified as possibilities for my needs.
Were my questions that unreasonable that I shouldn't ask the more experienced users of this community?

Shankre said:
I didn't ask for a "best", since I know each ROM has its pros and cons.
Was hoping for some direction based on the needs/preferences mentioned.
Also was inquired as to the stability of current JB releases, as well as opinions for some ROMs which I had already identified as possibilities for my needs.
Were my questions that unreasonable that I shouldn't ask the more experienced users of this community?
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They are unreasonable in the sense that it creates lots of problems as no one rom is better than another and its based on usage I will ask that you avoid the question the moderators don't want to see endorsement of individuals work over another so try them out for yourself and see what you like
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Illnevertell said:
They are unreasonable in the sense that it creates lots of problems as no one rom is better than another and its based on usage I will ask that you avoid the question the moderators don't want to see endorsement of individuals work over another so try them out for yourself and see what you like
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Understood. That was not my intention at all.

[Q] What should i use for backup and restore instead of TiBu?

i was just reading the CM10.1 nightlies thread, and most posters there have been saying that using TiBu to backup and restore apps is a *bad* thing when doing a fresh install of the latest nightly ROM build.
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
i'd like to keep my call logs and SMS data. i also have some savegames from game apps i'd like to keep. TiBu seems to have some specific options as to backing up SMSes and call logs. is that safe to backup and then restore to a new ROM install?
what about user apps? i'm fine with just reinstalling most apps, but there are some apps that have saved data that i'd really like to keep!

there are apps specifically for backing up sms and call longs
the reason that people dont like Tibu as much is some of the cache it restores can conflict with newer builds and android is pretty good at restoring most of the things on its own

People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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fightinfilipino said:
i was just reading the CM10.1 nightlies thread, and most posters there have been saying that using TiBu to backup and restore apps is a *bad* thing when doing a fresh install of the latest nightly ROM build.
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
i'd like to keep my call logs and SMS data. i also have some savegames from game apps i'd like to keep. TiBu seems to have some specific options as to backing up SMSes and call logs. is that safe to backup and then restore to a new ROM install?
what about user apps? i'm fine with just reinstalling most apps, but there are some apps that have saved data that i'd really like to keep!
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Helium from the maker of CWM is free and super simple. They could've included an option to only backup an apps data but oh well it's still great. :good:

Commodore 64 said:
People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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ty, that makes sense.
i'm on an older version of CWM (6.0.1.0, i believe). am i able to just flash a new version of CWM (sk8's or whatever) from my current CWM? i can't seem to find a straight answer on the forums or from googling...

Yea you can. Just flash the sk8 and then under advanced choose reboot recovery after install and you're going to be in the new recovery mod
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Thanks for asking!
fightinfilipino said:
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
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Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?

Trinition said:
Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
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I never restore anything. I backup my call logs and texts to gmail, but I don't restore them. Why would you?
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Trinition said:
Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
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Maybe that you can backup to the cloud, with Helium and others. But except for that i think you've got it covered.

Commodore 64 said:
People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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just as a quick update, i did exactly this (using sk8's CWM recovery) and it seems to have worked like a charm. did a clean wipe (factory reset/format cache, data, system, dalvik's) and then installed Cyanogenmod 10.1 N15. then before rebooting i restored just the data. worked pretty well!

fightinfilipino said:
just as a quick update, i did exactly this (using sk8's CWM recovery) and it seems to have worked like a charm. did a clean wipe (factory reset/format cache, data, system, dalvik's) and then installed Cyanogenmod 10.1 N15. then before rebooting i restored just the data. worked pretty well!
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Good for you. But that is almost the same as a dirty flash.
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rushi.1986 said:
Good for you. But that is almost the same as a dirty flash.
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oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[

fightinfilipino said:
oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
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You shouldn't restore anything.
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fightinfilipino said:
oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
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There is no best way because there's always a risk it will cause issues. Either accept the level of risk involved or do what's recommended, you can't have your cake and eat it too in this case.
Personally I use android tuner pro as a backup solution. I know the risks involved and I don't post and complain when it doesn't work I find the problem and fix it or I do what I'm supposed to do.
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mtdew said:
There is no best way because there's always a risk it will cause issues. Either accept the level of risk involved or do what's recommended, you can't have your cake and eat it too in this case.
Personally I use android tuner pro as a backup solution. I know the risks involved and I don't post and complain when it doesn't work I find the problem and fix it or I do what I'm supposed to do.
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the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?

fightinfilipino said:
the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
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His answer was far from snarky and was actually correct the method stated is just a dirty flash with more steps and is more risky.
It's recommended not to restore anything but if you must be ready to accepted the consequence if there are any. Typically with android tuner I don't have issues.
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fightinfilipino said:
the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
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I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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rushi.1986 said:
I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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99% of the time you won't but with all of the changes recently all precautions needed to be taken. Like I said I normally don't have too many issues, every once in a while though.
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Restoring user apps will not mess up your ROM. Unless it is root related y would it? If the app doesn't work after install then install it from the market.
Restoring system apps can effect your ROM. Most system apps are different based on the ROM that you use. Example being restoring them from cm 10 to cm 10.1, or even different nightlies.
Titanium backup is the way to go. Chronium aka helium is supposed to be good, its a preference thing IMO.
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rushi.1986 said:
I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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This is a good way to go.. If it works for you, then you have your solution. Thing is, everyone's phone has had different experiences with different apps, ROMs, settings, etc. and what works for one may not work for another.
Personally, I prefer the backup feature in ROM Toolbox pro. Easy to use, bulk features, and I had fewer issues than on TiBu. BUT, with all the recent app updates trying to keep up with Rom changes, I've found it to be far more stable to just reinstall from the Play store. It seems to also be prudent to get rid of any app that may be redundant to native ROM features (in my case). Just keep it simple.
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