HSPA+ 42 on Sensation? - HTC Sensation

This is probably a total noob question, but I'm curious: is there any hardware reason the HSPA+ transceiver on the Sensation can't be made to be compatible with T-mo's HSPA+ 42 network? I mean, are we theoretically only a hacked radio away from doubling our network speed, like the lucky SOBs getting the upcoming Amaze/SGS2 (kinda like how the Android Revolution ROM can unlock 1.5 GHz CPU speeds)?

Not possible my good sir. The radio in the Sensation is only capable of up to 14.4 Mbps.

aNYthing24 said:
Not possible my good sir. The radio in the Sensation is only capable of up to 14.4 Mbps.
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Bah. Oh well, that's still five times faster than my home internet connection (well, 50 times faster than what it is currently; God I wish I could kick ATT to the curb as my DSL provider too! Their wireline customer service is almost as bad as their wireless was!)

Even if the Sensation was capable of 42meg 95% of users wouldnt get anywhere near that speed on that network anyway. Hell, how many of you get over 10 meg now?
The phones limit of 14meg will only become an issue when the networks theoretical max hits highs of well above 50meg.
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usual_suspect said:
Even if the Sensation was capable of 42meg 95% of users wouldnt get anywhere near that speed on that network anyway. Hell, how many of you get over 10 meg now?
The phones limit of 14meg will only become an issue when the networks theoretical max hits highs of well above 50meg.
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Agreed!
Honestly, anything over 3-4Mb pipe is just extra. It's all you need to stream high quality video to the device with no lag. The only real reason you would need more is for speed test bragging or to run HDMI into your tv, but if you do that you'll use all your data up.
Technically we are lucky T-Mobile has only 3.5 G. My friends here in the U.S. with LTE get 10-20Mb connections (compared to my 6-10Mb) but it completely rapes their battery. We can run 3.5 G all day long but LTE guys need a recharge during the day.

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Technically we are lucky T-Mobile has only 3.5 G. My friends here in the U.S. with LTE get 10-20Mb connections (compared to my 6-10Mb) but it completely rapes their battery. We can run 3.5 G all day long but LTE guys need a recharge during the day.
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Interesting about the battery drain on LTE.
I agree though, the network 'Three' here in the UK has just started rolling out HSPA+ (up to 21meg) recently and like yourself I now average 6-10Mb which is fast enough and my battery last all day easily.
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I have seen up to 8Mb/s in some cities, but I get 1.7Mb/s were I live. I NEVER EVER get to see anything actually DL at that speed though! Whenever I DL an app or something, it does about 200kb/s...So I dont care one bit what the speed it seeing as I never even get to come close to what my speed test can do.
Matt

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I have seen up to 8Mb/s in some cities, but I get 1.7Mb/s were I live. I NEVER EVER get to see anything actually DL at that speed though! Whenever I DL an app or something, it does about 200kb/s...So I dont care one bit what the speed it seeing as I never even get to come close to what my speed test can do.
Matt
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That actually sounds like some kind of throttling going on, if speed tests and browsing are at much higher speeds than what you get downloading a file.
Thankfully I dont have that problem on the network I use, what you see is what you actually get!
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mrg02d said:
I have seen up to 8Mb/s in some cities, but I get 1.7Mb/s were I live. I NEVER EVER get to see anything actually DL at that speed though! Whenever I DL an app or something, it does about 200kb/s...So I dont care one bit what the speed it seeing as I never even get to come close to what my speed test can do.
Matt
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200kb/s is the "speed" of your download and equals a 1.6Mb connection "bandwidth". Your bandwidth is listed in bits and your speed is listed in bytes. There are 8 bits in a byte. So multiply the "speed" you see by 8 to get your "bandwidth". Or divide your bandwidth by 8 to determine your download speed potential.
Make sense? Just remember to mult/div by 8.

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200kb/s is the "speed" of your download and equals a 1.6Mb connection "bandwidth". Your bandwidth is listed in bits and your speed is listed in bytes. There are 8 bits in a byte. So multiply the "speed" you see by 8 to get your "bandwidth". Or divide your bandwidth by 8 to determine your download speed potential.
Make sense? Just remember to mult/div by 8.
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Also, don't forget to get the case of you "b" (bits) and "B" (Bytes) correct. ;-)
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HSPA+ 42mbps is actually DC-HSPA. It should operate nearly twice as fast as the current modems in real world conditions, as its operating on double frequency.
This is far different than a bump from 7.2 to 14.4. This will have real world impact in speeds.

Highest I've pulled in my area is 12mbps, which is plenty fast. Im not sure i understand the speed race going on between carriers at the moment since the data is either being capped or throttled. What would you do with 42 mbps and how long would your monthly data last, even with a dongle?

I didn't realize the Sensation was just 14.4mbs but that explains a lot. Highest I've ever gotten on the dl was 8.5mbs in Houston. Average though can be anywhere between 4.5 and 6.5. I'm pretty happy with it though. on the 10gig plan and I've used to to stream HD netflix to the bigscreen while tethered when there wasn't a faster connection available. Even gaming works fine with about 85-100 latency.

all i know it's much much faster than my flip dumb phone i had since like 2005 lmao i'm happy to be up to date finnaly lol

Only TMOUS supports HSPA+?

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Only TMOUS supports HSPA+?
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If you mean specifically in the US, no. AT&T uses HSPA+ too. They are also implementing LTE at this time too. Right now their HSPA+ is only capable of 21mbps while tmous is capable of 42mbps.
These are theoretical speeds of course, but faster the theoretical, faster the real world.
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HSPA+ Backhaul

I know this isn't just about the Inspire, but kept seeing people write that AT&T will have the backhaul turned on or complete on March 1.
Anyone know if this has happened? I have not seen any increase in speeds at all.
I believe it has been turned on for the areas at&t has the enhanced backhaul deployed. It's not available everywhere yet.
http://www.att.com/network/#fbid=Cfb68NsnGk7 - Check the coverage map and scroll over it to see where at&t currently has 4G.
Huh. It says I am in a prime area for 4G Coverage...
What kind of speeds are you attaining?
Rooted stock rom, 2 Mb down 1 Mb up.
Map currently does not depict 4G
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Map currently does not depict 4G
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Scroll over it.
derekroper said:
Rooted stock rom, 2 Mb down 1 Mb up.
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That's strange, I regularly see over 4.5Mb down, 1.2Mb up.
here is what att told me
I have seen some improvements. By my work during the day I was getting 1500 down. Now I am getting 3500 down on average. Check my sig, that was the best I have yet to see on my phone 6496 down and 1321 up.
Woke up this morning and ran a speed test for fun. Was consistently getting 4.1-4.3 mbps down (topped out at 4.5) with 1.3 mbps up. Previously i was getting around 3.3 down and 1.3 up. Running Android Rev 2.1. Will be traveling a bit today and will do more tests.
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I know this isn't just about the Inspire, but kept seeing people write that AT&T will have the backhaul turned on or complete on March 1.
Anyone know if this has happened? I have not seen any increase in speeds at all.
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that is just att BS excuess! the real truth is they just rename their 3G networks as 4G! funny, those people "claim" they have hspa+ speed (over 4.5mb per sec) but no one have youtube to prove it! haha
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I believe it has been turned on for the areas at&t has the enhanced backhaul deployed. It's not available everywhere yet.
http://www.att.com/network/#fbid=Cfb68NsnGk7 - Check the coverage map and scroll over it to see where at&t currently has 4G.
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I live smack dab in the middle of the 4G coverage in San Francisco, and my phone is still showing HSDPA and getting about 1.5mbps-3mbps... certainly not the "4G" like speeds they depict.
netnerd said:
that is just att BS excuess! the real truth is they just rename their 3G networks as 4G! funny, those people "claim" they have hspa+ speed (over 4.5mb per sec) but no one have youtube to prove it! haha
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I agree with your comments 100% here. I've yet to see a snapshot of network settings showing HSPA+ ... everyone still shows HSDPA.... and the speeds are reflective of such.
netnerd said:
that is just att BS excuess! the real truth is they just rename their 3G networks as 4G! funny, those people "claim" they have hspa+ speed (over 4.5mb per sec) but no one have youtube to prove it! haha
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How many times are you going to post these ignorant comments? Your statements have absolutely zero credibility and you've consistently displayed the fact that your knowledge of at&t's network is nonexistent.
HSPA+ has been officially recognized as 4G and the speeds attained by it are similar to current capabilities of WiMax and LTE. T-Mobile's 4G network is also HSPA+.
The network enhancements have not yet been rolled out to all areas, so you will not get 4G speed simply by using an 4G capable phone. I personally have seen over 4.5 Mbs down and I'm in an area where at&t doesn't even show the enhanced backhaul to be deployed.
You're more than welcome to do actual research into at&t's ongoing network improvements, so you will be better informed on this matter.
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How many times are you going to post these ignorant comments? Your statements have absolutely zero credibility and you've consistently displayed the fact that your knowledge of at&t's network is nonexistent.
HSPA+ has been officially recognized as 4G and the speeds attained by it are similar to current capabilities of WiMax and LTE. T-Mobile's 4G network is also HSPA+.
The network enhancements have not yet been rolled out to all areas, so you will not get 4G speed simply by using an 4G capable phone. I personally have seen over 4.5 Mbs down and I'm in an area where at&t doesn't even show the enhanced backhaul to be deployed.
You're more than welcome to do actual research into at&t's ongoing network improvements, so you will be better informed on this matter.
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Wow, you're the poster child for AT&T's marketing campaign.
He is actually 100% right. It's 3G rebranded as 4G, hence why AT&T is legally obligated to put fine print on everything, saying "4G-like speed" ... HSPA+ is NOT accepted as 4G, it's only MARKETED as such to try and gain acceptance from consumers.
If you don't like AT&T then switch.......... If you don't have AT&T leave us alone.
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that is just att BS excuess! the real truth is they just rename their 3G networks as 4G! funny, those people "claim" they have hspa+ speed (over 4.5mb per sec) but no one have youtube to prove it! haha
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If you don't like AT&T then switch.......... If you don't have AT&T leave us alone.
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I don't have a problem with the speeds I'm getting. Compared to Verizon and Sprint, AT&T is 2X as fast in every major metro area TODAY.
I don't care if it's real 4G or 3.5G or 3G... even at 3G their average speed nationwide IS faster than Verizon. Great I can use Verizon LTE in San Francisco, but what about when I'm in Billings, or Ft Lauderdale, or Scottsdale? Back on their 3G network, which runs at about 700k... no thanks!
The bottom line is I think those of us on this forum are just upset that they're trying to sell the network as 4G, and it's not. However if you were a business and both Sprint and Verizon are deploying 4G, you have to do something to compete or watch customers flock to the next best thing. By advertising 4G-like speeds, they get around the legal issues surrounding false advertising, and at the end of the day, the consumer really gets the same experience. YouTube doesn't look any better at 8mbps than it does at 1mbps... and www.tmz.com loads just as fast at 2mbps as it does at 5mbps... The only impact is on those who tether\use data cards, really.
If they marketed it as "ATT 4.0" or "Verizon 4.0" and both delivered 4.0 mbps speed, would you really CARE what technology they use? No, but stupid Americans only respond to silly marketing names (aka Inspire, Desire, Droid, Aria, Evo, MyTouch, Captivate, Intercept... blah blah blah)... if they called it a HTC 5450, or a Samsung X9014, people would be afraid of it.... the only reason Blackberry was able to break into the consumer market was by adding names like Bold, Curve, Storm... BOOM, you have my attention! lol
So thank all of the dumb people (mostly those 99% not on this forum), for requiring things dumbed down for them that caused the whole 3\3.5\4G naming debacle. hehe
Here is a speed test I just ran.
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Here is a speed test I just ran.
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Mine to your same server.
**** My results are common for middle of the day on a business day in San Francisco. The network here usually runs at about 50% of the speed as it does at night... it's real bad, but always been this way ****

4G not implimented yet!!?? plus more

ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
if you use adw launcher and custom make an icon attached to the hidden menu apk you can access the test and servicing menus like other phones BUT... if you go into test settings for phone (play around its in there) there is a menu the shows hspda (3g, hspda+ being 4g) and many other functions that are advertised on the phone that are all listed as NOT IMPLIMENTED YET!!
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming). so it would make sense why the signal on the phone is screwed up and dropping (confused phone maybe?) and why im still getting 3g speeds (slightly faster maybe from better signal reception due to upgraded hardware from my previous Vibrant).
go take a look for yourself and let me know what you think. im sure you can use desktop visualizer to get to the menu to. DONT MESS WITH ANYTHING THOUGH. i had to reset my phone and not with a hard reset, but a recovery i found on a nvflash website. almost bricked it. so just look but don't touch anything important unless you know what your doing.
im looking forward to hearing what everything thinks of this and the giant list of other features also saying this in the same menu. because i feel mislead just a little bit.....
I think it's just that the functions in the hidden menu aren't implemented yet.
Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
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There's a reason for that...
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming)
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I've got a hot 4g connection where I am (west Texas), you don't get 4.9-5.6mb (Speedtest) download on 3g. Did you check the T-Mobile coverage map to see if you have it in your area yet?
Edit: you also may need a new sim card. Depending on the age of the card, you might not be able to get a stable lock on to 4g (age as in what generation it was produced.. not how long you've had it)
thats possible, but im getting 3g speeds still as far as i can tell and i don't see why it wouldnt be included in the "hidden menu" if it is working since we aren't "really" supposed to know about the hidden menu. anyways just something i noticed.
menu is Hidden Menu->modem settings is where the menu is at.
and i got a new sim card (tired 2 new ones both the same) and yes i am in salt lake city and it is a 4g area for tmobile. but seems like everyone (mostly) is getting signal drops all over the place. my 2g isn't working as consistantly as it did before on my vibrant either. im sure gingerbread will fix all of this though.
I'm getting 4-8mps down in Metro Atlanta. I say 4G speed is on.
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Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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I'm having the same problem, and I've even got a 2G booster in my house. My 2G connection drops all the time on my G2X but not my Vibrant. When I look at the signal strength when it's up it's not much different than the Vibrant, -104dBm on the G2X vs -100 dBm on the Vibrant
Im at a consistent 6-9mb dl at my house with a 1mb+ ul. Im calling it 4g and have you tried your conn outside of your city to see if its just congestion on the network?
I'm also getting 4-8mbps speeds in Atlanta, 4g is definitely working.
I'm in vegas, every hour, I get only 10 or 20mn of 4g at 6Mb download speed, the rest of the time I'm on 2g. At night time,i get 4g most of the time. So I guess in the day time, they kick me back to 2g to save their bandwitch, I'm returning my phone to let them know this is not acceptable
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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Not sure but this may have as much to do with the processor and RAM speed as the connection speed.
I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
A few things, before we get too heavy handed on the FUD:
The phone is technically '4G' compatible, and it supports it out of the box.
Most of T-Mo's towers have been upgraded to support their 4G (HSPA+)
Regular HSPA caps out at about 3.5Mbps down. I've gotten as much as 7Mbps down on my G2x
Personally, I haven't had many issues with signal, but I live in Houston, so that may have something to do with it.
4g is on in Huntington Beach, and irvine.
I did notice its not a huge difference speed wise though. I had the moto cliq 3g and i would get 1mbs ish to 5mbs DL, and with the G2x im averaging about 3mbs to 7mbs. not a huge difference but the big change is Latency. I used to rock 700ms to 1000ms on 3g with my cliq, im getting around 55ms to 150ms on my G2x.
Latency is key for me though, i would prefer lower latency than higher download speeds. Due to the fact I need to vpn and voip with company network.
I found that t mobiles 3g network is still very capable in speed. the main issue i had was my cliq was underpowered to handle the t mobiles network. when i would tether my rooted nook color it would perform like a champ.
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
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Where do you live? Is it possible T-Mo may not support HSPA+ in your area?
It's also important to note that even if the towers you're connected to support HSPA+, that's only one part of the process. They also have to upgrade the data connection to the tower itself (backhaul) to ensure it can handle the speeds. If you're connected to an HSPA+ tower that doesn't have the upgraded backhaul, that could explain slow speeds.
No.
HSPA+ ("4G") is on and working. You're just not in an HSPA+ area it seems.
We're all getting faster than HSPA speeds, so we are certainly on HSPA+. Speedtests are the best way for you to verify if you are on EDGE (2G), HSPA (3G), or HSPA+ (4G).
I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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That's the thing though. The way T-Mo has their network setup, if you can get 3G from a tower, you should be able to get 4G. Period. You may not get 4G speeds, but you're technically connected to an HSPA+ tower, and thus the 4G icon. It'd be weird to connect a tower that supports HSPA at this point, but not HSPA+ (though I'm sure there are some out there)

What's the most the G2X can download mbps???

Just curious of the mbps max our phone can handle
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14.4 megs downstream
Thanks but what's this I hear about 42mbps?
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TMobile has upgraded a few cities (and plans to upgrade more) to theoretical speeds of up to 42mbps. Since the radio in the g2x goes up to 14.4 this will have no impact on our phones. That said I've yet to see the phone that even hits 14mbps, so I don't really think having a radio capable of 42mbps would even really matter. I mean I've still yet to see the 14.4 radio that has actually pulled down a real world speed of 14.4mbps. I think all that stuff sounds great on paper but in real life odds are you won't see that speed.
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On wifi at home I get 20+ mbps download
I posted the following at the thread on 3g in the status....more appropiate here,so I duplicate it.
I have to put my two cents in on speeds.
I started (my smarty phone odyssey) on Metropcs in Feb....most speed test ever showed was like 1.6mbps...once. Mostly at 1.4-1.5. I was very unhappy with that. Between these speeds, battery issues, no support (from Samsung), I had enuff and went to Sprint. I saw around1.0 Mbps in the beginning. When I complained, they made an adjustment on their end amd it got worse! My average was .65 up and down. Then I went back to Metro. Seems they are suddenly having speed issues. Couldn't get more than about .80, with the same other issues as before. So I've purchased the G2x.
Got two yesterday!!
Both have bleed. Doesn't bother me as it is though. Just noticeable when screen is black. It IS bs, but not a dealbreaker, if it doesn't get worse.
I see people talking about speeds of 8 and 9Mbps and I say I'd be happy with a third of that.
Personally I don't think speedtest is accurate. But I never see that discussed.
T Mobile is supposed to activate these tomorrow. I'll post my speeds. If I get anything above 4.0, I'll be in heaven.
I have looked at youtube videos via wifi and am in awe of this device. Really smooth playback. Wow. Better than the Indulge AND the Evo IMO.
My new phone is supposed to activate tommorow. Can't wait
Oh and I'm in the Dallas market. I'm on top of DFW airport. Dallas is Metros home market so system is overall good here, but I'm in a bit of a dip so reception can be an issue in my home.
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On wifi at home I get 20+ mbps download
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I get similar numbers on wifi
highest I've ever actually speed-tested is ~21 Mbps down, ~5Mbps on wifi and ~9Mbps down, ~2Mbps up on H. I don't belive H+ is available in my area at this time (Indianapolis, IN).

How well is the LTE working?

I am a launch day EVO 4G user and a Sprint subscriber since 1999. With the new EVO 3D 4G coming out, I am at a crossroads. I am miffed not being in a Sprint 4G area while my friends with their Tbolts are rocking it here. Even my sister with her Tmobile MyTouch 4g is getting "4G" here. But, that EVO 3D is beckoning for my technolust.
Those of you with Tbolts and in an official LTE area, how well does the network work when you are moving? How well does the network handle handoffs? Is LTE useable when in a moving car?
Thanks for any input. I am seeking as much input as possible to make a consumer decision. This is not a trolling attempt and I hope no trolls attempt. I just need info.
All of that works amazing for me here in Phoenix. Almost all of the valley is covered in 4g and I get it pretty much anywhere. Works great while moving, handoffs seem to work fine.
In Columbus, OH and it is a LTE market - these days it seems they have worked out most of the kinks. Battery life is horrendous using the 4G radio - if you get the phone and have access to a WiFi AP for most of the day, use that over 4G. I mainly stay in Columbus and the 4G coverage area is rather large, I've not had problems with moving quickly and downloading anything, although I'd wonder what would happen if you wanted to use it as a carpool mobile hotspot, how stable it is in that situation I'm not sure. All and all I'm happy with the phone - and it seems Verizon is over their growing pains in the network.
4G works well when moving. I am able to make Skype Video calls while driving, and the video is clear, but not too smooth (Skype Mobile might be limiting the frame rate to 15fps). There are some data handoff issues when moving from a 4G area to a 3G area, resulting in music streams getting cut off. Most apps, when their data stream is cut off, do not intelligently reconnect, and make you have to restart the stream manually.
Initializing 4G is also not speedy. Driving out of a no-signal zone means waiting a good minute or two, as the phone goes from "no service" to "1x" to "4g". I've noticed that if you get impatient (or are just not paying attention) and invoke a data stream on "1x", the phone will not switch to "4g" until the data stream ends. This delay depends on the phone's hardware, obviously.
Also, your bandwidth varies sharply with location. The difference between New York City (2-4Mbps), Dallas (12-15Mbps), and San Francisco (3-6Mbps) is startling.
Hope this helps you.
Why go for the evo in the first place? 3d gimmick?
The tbolt while being single core runs android very well.
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Nooter said:
bandwidth varies sharply with location. The difference between New York City (2-4Mbps), Dallas (12-15Mbps), and San Francisco (3-6Mbps) is startling.
Hope this helps you.
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I'm not sure where are you pulling your data from for NYC, but look at my signature. Averaging at 25mbps during he peak hours.
Handoffs are the greatest, but overall a very pleasurable experience. I get about 8-12 down and a pretty consistent 2 up in charlotte. If you are in a good lte area, moving is not that bad. I use it to stream tv from my vulkano while moving and never really have a problem. Overall I'm happy. The only thing that I have a real issue with is GPS. Which I just got off the phone with verizon about.
Hmmm, lots of you are getting better speeds than I am seeing.
I get good coverage here in the NW Chicago burbs, but I'm only seeing 5-6 mbps down and 2-3 up. It's fast enough for my uses, but now I'm wondering why I'm not getting faster speeds....
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Hmmm, lots of you are getting better speeds than I am seeing.
I get good coverage here in the NW Chicago burbs, but I'm only seeing 5-6 mbps down and 2-3 up. It's fast enough for my uses, but now I'm wondering why I'm not getting faster speeds....
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I'm on the Northside of Chicago by Wrigley and I usually average around 10-15 mbps all day long.. Maybe because as you said you're in the northwest burbs. When I take the Metra north to Wisconsin I notice the 4G speed diminish until it's all 3G
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Why go for the evo in the first place? 3d gimmick?
The tbolt while being single core runs android very well.
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Dual core snapdragon, rumour has it capable of significant overclocking or better battery life. Better display, higher resolution.And yes, 3D. Hands on reviews indicate cool factor. I am geek.
I would not come over
to "Rule the air" for the Tbolt. I am interested in real 4G, not the faux one Sprint has me paying for that I can't even get. So far, judging from the positive responses, I will
hold off buying the EVO 3D until the V gets its version. Then I will switch networks.
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North of Boston I have 4G and its working great. The comparison between LTE and 3G is incredible.
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Dual core snapdragon, rumour has it capable of significant overclocking or better battery life. Better display, higher resolution.And yes, 3D. Hands on reviews indicate cool factor. I am geek.
I would not come over
to "Rule the air" for the Tbolt. I am interested in real 4G, not the faux one Sprint has me paying for that I can't even get. So far, judging from the positive responses, I will
hold off buying the EVO 3D until the V gets its version. Then I will switch networks.
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Good move. The 4G with Verizon is no joke. Even on the outskirts of Jacksonvilles 4G area I get 10mbs down at least.
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Building penetration with Verizon LTE! I can stream YouTube HD in the crapper at work which is smack center of the building. When I canceled Sprint the other day they wanted me to stand out on the streets to get 4G coverage. Been a Sprint customer for over a decade but no more.
Verizon may drop the unlimited phone data so you may want to grandfather in sooner than later.
3D is a gimmick. I would give priority to LTE, SAMOLED+, dual core, etc. over that.
I live in Charlotte NC & I'll never go back to 3G. The difference is astounding
Ubermicro13 said:
North of Boston I have 4G and its working great. The comparison between LTE and 3G is incredible.
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There is no comparison
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Hmmm, lots of you are getting better speeds than I am seeing.
I get good coverage here in the NW Chicago burbs, but I'm only seeing 5-6 mbps down and 2-3 up. It's fast enough for my uses, but now I'm wondering why I'm not getting faster speeds....
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You aren't by any chance running one of the GB leaks are you?
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cant wait to get 4g!
milan03 said:
I'm not sure where are you pulling your data from for NYC, but look at my signature. Averaging at 25mbps during he peak hours.
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That's insane. I'll test again when I'm in NYC next.
I haven't had any handoff issues going from 4G to 4G. In fact, my best speed tests have been while on the freeway at top speed
Im in Staten Island NY and it works great in Brooklyn Staten Island And Manhattan from what i see so far

T-Mobile Announces Launch Of HSPA+ 42Mbps

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/t-mobile-announces-launch-of-hspa-42mbps-in-50-markets-rocket-3-0-available-may-25th/
With the recent news of TMO launching HSPA+ 42Mbps, wondering if anyone has noticed any sort of speed increase? Where I normally get about 1-2Mbps (at work), I'm hitting 4 1/2Mbps.
I did modify my build.prop to
ro.ril.hsdpa.category = 24
ro.ril.hsxpa = 2
Dont know if changing this made any difference
What the crap no Philadelphia? Philly was the first to have hspa+. This sux
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I don't know what some people do to get these crazy mbps speeds I sometimes see posted...I live in NYC, one of the first markets to get the 42mb bump - but I've never seen my data go above the 3 mbps range...fast enough to be functional, but I'd love to know what setup people are on to get these crazy speeds.
They already been testing HSPA+ Rv2 (42mbps link) in few areas but since we have 14.4mb cap on our device and IRL half of that speed you will see if your lucky in a good day.
Far as your setting goes in build.prop:
ro.ril.hsdpa.category = 24 <<< 42.2 Mbit/s
ro.ril.hsxpa=2 <<< HSDPA/HSUPA
Make sure you test it using all the radio as its area dependent. So based on your location you may see better signal (dBm+asu) than other locations and other users. But if you got around 4mbps its normal HSPA+ post speed on Rv1 (21mbps link). Even with Rv2 link you won't get speed increase as it can be just background overhaul. What you can however do is connect via WCDMA which would give you 0.3+% faster upload.
PS: Sup epsix.
Can the cap on our phones be removed or is our hardware incompatible?
I've hit more than 10mbps multiple times. That's in Vancouver Washington too.
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TopazUser1 said:
Can the cap on our phones be removed or is our hardware incompatible?
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I would also like to know this.
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Can the cap on our phones be removed or is our hardware incompatible?
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with in the build.prop lies a coding that will allow us to increase our data speeds but it will not do much. maybe .03% - .06% growth in speeds. It's hardware restricted. also it has alot to do with Bandwidth being using at the time, and that location. If i'm out at the Hofbrauhaus i can get wicked fast download speed from about 1am - 2am, but during the day it's easily a 1/3 of what i see at night.
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Can the cap on our phones be removed or is our hardware incompatible?
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Hardware standard. Hence the POS SamSUX Vibrant 4G? aka same Vibrant sold as "21mbps" but you will see no diff this is due to the current traffic and provision rate which is placed on each acc. Normally this is done though RAN, RADIUS, ect based profile.
neidlinger said:
with in the build.prop lies a coding that will allow us to increase our data speeds but it will not do much. maybe .03% - .06% growth in speeds. It's hardware restricted. also it has alot to do with Bandwidth being using at the time, and that location. If i'm out at the Hofbrauhaus i can get wicked fast download speed from about 1am - 2am, but during the day it's easily a 1/3 of what i see at night.
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Correct. RadioROM, location, time, network load all plays in to it.
Its a good upgrade. With hspa+ 21 you can see 10mbps peak on a mt4g, averaging about 5-6. With 42, you can get 10 on average, peaking at 12.
I'm in midtown Manhattan at work, have 4 bars on H, and have gotten less than 1 mbps 3 speedtests in a row...a couple hours ago I got in the 2mbps range. It is the middle of the day, so I'm sure the network is clogged, but that is nowhere near 21 mbps, let alone 4-5.
As was said, I guess it really varies a lot throughout the day based on time, location, other factors etc.
I am in the middle of Chandler AZ with about 4-5 bars of H and I barely get over 2.5M down & 0.5M up... Running Virtuous Fusion ROM 1.0.5 and Radio 26.09.04.26... not seeing a great improvement yet...
Let me be clear so people can understand. Our MT4G has 14.4mbps hardware limit which you can't change by editing or even updating the radio framework. Now they can drop 100mbps links as it won't still matter. When they talk about revision link speed they mean for the towers as for overall thus network capacity is increased and more user is supported without crawling bandwidth bottleneck.
Now they have QoS based policies setup on the network to handle it along with standard user radius/ran profile which will simple if they wanted you would be set to 16kbps(2kB[8kbps=1kB]) since we using SI prefix. On top of that time/location/interference also plays factor.
Think of the pipe as the road. The car as the device and the jam is network overhaul capacity. Now it don't matter if you have the fastest car in the world if the road is small thus closing and slowing down the traffic to halt and causing jam. In sense you have to understand the network topology to move it accordingly. So making the road bigger (pipe revision layout exp: 42mbps) they can flow more but does not mean your car can go faster than the original engine.
Oh man up another 3 MBs now I'm up to 8 down 4 up
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Here is my recent test running stock rooted rom .30 radio build prop edit.
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But, the myTouch 4G has a hardware limit of 14.4 mb/s. The best thing we could get from this is that we hit peak speeds, but nothing more.
sunsean said:
I'm in midtown Manhattan at work, have 4 bars on H, and have gotten less than 1 mbps 3 speedtests in a row...a couple hours ago I got in the 2mbps range. It is the middle of the day, so I'm sure the network is clogged, but that is nowhere near 21 mbps, let alone 4-5.
As was said, I guess it really varies a lot throughout the day based on time, location, other factors etc.
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Just checked the article, but didnt even find new york city there. Its only launched in long island in ny. Speedtest.net results also confirm there is no improvement.
Ok, so i'm in Houston which is one of the cities and only see the normal 2-5 depending on the time of day. What do I need to do to see if i can get the faster download speeds? I saw the modification of the prop bld but than someone rambled on about how it may or may not help depending on "stuff that is way over my head". A clarification in laymen terms would be nice.

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