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I know the mt4g slide isn't out yet, but from reviews and the specs listed. Is the sensation the same or is the mt4gs better in terms of camera speed and quality?
I don't know of the MT4G slide but the sensation takes pretty damn fast pics. Its to a point where I have shakey hands and some of them come out blurry LOL! I need a IS feature hahahah! I'm happy though, you capture some of the moments you might have missed otherwise.
OHHH...I'm happy with the quality of the pics that the Sensation produces.
I don't know, but I am loving the direction HTC seems to be headed in terms of camera capabilities on their new devices
I doubt the quality is as good because there's a better lens on the MT4G Slide. But I don't see any reason why we can't extract the .apk's from it's camera (HDR, Panorama, etc) and use it on our Sensation's.
Thanks for the replies guys. I've used the one on my girl's sensation and I'm pretty happy with how fast it takes the pictures and it's not that bad not having a dedicated camera key, although it would be nice. My g2 is wayyy to slow I'm trying to take pictures of my newborn and it can't keep up. I keep missing good pics
I'm very interested in Atrix 2. I did a lot of research on Atrix via Google and Forums and saw some pics of the Atrix 4G disputed pentile screen, then Atrix 2 seems a good choice.
How is the rear camera photo quality if I use Camera Zoom FX?
and if it is actually better than Atrix 4G 5MP camera.(I expect test instead of data comparison)
I hoped that it could bear daily use so I don't need to take my Camera with a lot of space. I understand the degrade, but can I at least take relatively good photo with it?
Thanks
At first I bought a G2x. It sucks, it is horrible. The camera and screen. Dead point in the middle, extremely underexposure camera and severe bleeding along the whole screen.. I returned it.
the camera has great hardware, but the software written for the camera is ****e. you can make improvements to quality with camera zoom fx, but, you will still have some problems with quality. but czfx will drastically improve results.
I've noticed that quite frankly...the camera ****ing sucks especially in low light areas like bars, I'm fairly sure I've taken better quality pictures with my old k800i! Are there any mods out there at all that can help fix this?
littledude565 said:
I've noticed that quite frankly...the camera ****ing sucks especially in low light areas like bars, I'm fairly sure I've taken better quality pictures with my old k800i! Are there any mods out there at all that can help fix this?
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I've noticed this too....
I know you can edit the media_profiles.xml so i thought if i could find one and luckily here is one for our very own desire s.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1280558
Why not give it a try and see. Also, are you running Cyanogenmod or sense? Sense usually takes much better pictures than cyanogenmod.
Not too much you can do about the hardware limitations, especially in low light conditions like bars.
What I have relied on in the past is using PicSay Pro to correct any photos that I would like to keep that havent come out well. It is very good at adjusting exposure levels, brightness, contrast and colour saturation to make under-exposed shots look much better. Also add a 5% blur to help with grainy pics.
Agree that sense cameras outperform the cm and aosp ones.
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Thanks for the responses! Also, I'm running a sense rom (endiymon or something that)
I think its due to the type of lens HTC are using. This is what they have vastly improved in their newer models (f.24 lens if I'm right?)
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olyloh6696 said:
I think its due to the type of lens HTC are using. This is what they have vastly improved in their newer models (f.24 lens if I'm right?)
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HTC has actually added a separate processing core for the camera alone. So a dual-core phone will actually have three cores. The ImageSense chip will not only offload the duties from the regular processor to keep the phone and operating system fast and stable. It will leave the camera completely uninterrupted to take quality, impressive photos. This also allows super-fast shooting possible with a 0.7-second shot time and a 0.2-second autofocus.
Combine that with the 8 megapixel camera with a f/2.0 aperture, 28mm lens, BSI Sensors, and smart LED flash with five levels of brightness. The f/2.0 aperture allows for 40% more brightness and light capture than their previous f/2.4 lenses that others are still trying to complete with today.
Source : http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-x-photos-show-off-new-imagesense-camera-technology-20120302/
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HTC has actually added a separate processing core for the camera alone. So a dual-core phone will actually have three cores. The ImageSense chip will not only offload the duties from the regular processor to keep the phone and operating system fast and stable. It will leave the camera completely uninterrupted to take quality, impressive photos. This also allows super-fast shooting possible with a 0.7-second shot time and a 0.2-second autofocus.
Combine that with the 8 megapixel camera with a f/2.0 aperture, 28mm lens, BSI Sensors, and smart LED flash with five levels of brightness. The f/2.0 aperture allows for 40% more brightness and light capture than their previous f/2.4 lenses that others are still trying to complete with today.
Source : http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-x-photos-show-off-new-imagesense-camera-technology-20120302/
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And will these improvements concern also HTC One S ? Or just One X, because in the source you have stated, there is mentioned just One X, if i am right.
EDIT: Sorry, i have just noticed, there is mentioned that HTC one S will also have these improvements.
Damn it when I chose to buy this Desire S and didn't wait for the new models! :-(
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Something I found interesting over at the Sensation forums..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533238
Wondering if this could somehow be nodded and implemented on our phone...
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Well, yess. I have noticed that even the old HTC Desire had better image quality than HTC Desire S. To be honest, Desire S image quality is awful, it's pixelate and dirty. Nevermind am I using stock rom or MIUI. The old Desire had so much better picture quality, of course video quality on new Desire S is way better.
So what the heck, HTC gave us worse camera sensor that before we had?
Any chances to improve camera picture quality?
Lowered quality shots in the dark plague all cameras. Shots on my Desire S are quite ok. If you take the time to do more than just "point-&-shoot", the image quality isn't nearly as awful as you claim (conversely, don't spend an hour "view-finding"). Not to mention pro-quality shots I've taken. And I'm just an average guy with a little more than average skill. But it's still just a phone.
The K-series of Sony Ericsson are camera-phones in the real sense of the word camera. My previous K850i would put many a camera to shame (in its time, it did!). If the pictures matter that much, most cameras are actually cheaper than the phones we tote.
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Well, yess. I have noticed that even the old HTC Desire had better image quality than HTC Desire S. To be honest, Desire S image quality is awful, it's pixelate and dirty. Nevermind am I using stock rom or MIUI. The old Desire had so much better picture quality, of course video quality on new Desire S is way better.
So what the heck, HTC gave us worse camera sensor that before we had?
Any chances to improve camera picture quality?
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Since you have both phones, could you take reference pictures?
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Since you have both phones, could you take reference pictures?
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Hemorrdroids Desire S review has comparison shots between the S and original..
The S, is definitely much much better at colour reproduction + clarity....
Dunno what that other guy has... Why would HTC downgrade the camera module?
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I'm using an ICS rom and that seems to have improved the quality of pictures majorly...Or maybe it's because I've been outdoors more with better lighting...Either way, everyone get a damn ICS rom
Thanx
littledude565 said:
I'm using an ICS rom and that seems to have improved the quality of pictures majorly...Or maybe it's because I've been outdoors more with better lighting...Either way, everyone get a damn ICS rom
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This is not true for Sense 4.0 ROMs.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions &
Read the Forum Rules Ref Posting
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So i was wondering if someone can tell me how much is the picture quality difference between cm9 camera and the stock sense 4 camera. Can you improve cm9 camera further somehow?
Only thing stopping me to use cm9/aokp/paranoid is camera. Would like your review.
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jags_the1 said:
So i was wondering if someone can tell me how much is the picture quality difference between cm9 camera and the stock sense 4 camera. Can you improve cm9 camera further somehow?
Only thing stopping me to use cm9/aokp/paranoid is camera. Would like your review.
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It's really all preference, I mean yes sense camera is better, but your best bet wod be to backup current rom and give one a try to see for yourself.
We could give you opinions all day, but until you try it for yourself you will never truly know.
Plus the benefits of aosp roms outweigh the camera for most.
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Camera is a pretty big deal for me. Of the AOSP based ROMs, I only tried AOKP, and only for a short time. But from my experience, the picture quality itself is actually not that different, if at all. For picture quality, the software doesn't make as much difference as the sensor and the optics, which of course is all there in CM9 as well as Sense.
What is different/lacking, is that the autofocus takes longer on AOSP (and the near zero "shutter lag" on this phone is to me one of the best features). Plus, the interface on the Sense camera is far superior IMO (more functional layout). Also, I believe AOSP does not have a widescreen mode that takes a picture that fills the whole screen (at full resolution). One of the modes has an aspect ratio that fills the screen, but I think at a lower resolution.
Also, related to camera, the camcorder is still pretty much busted (gives garbled output almost half the time). If you use the camcorder and significant amount, this is pretty much a deal breaker. But hopefully that will get sorted out soon, now that kernel source is released.
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Camera is a pretty big deal for me. Of the AOSP based ROMs, I only tried AOKP, and only for a short time. But from my experience, the picture quality itself is actually not that different, if at all. For picture quality, the software doesn't make as much difference as the sensor and the optics, which of course is all there in CM9 as well as Sense.
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This is incorrect. The sensor and optics only record light intensity. How that gets converted into color is a combination of hardware encoded algorithms and software code. This is one of the reasons Nikon cameras running on Sony sensors practically always produce truer colors and lower noise signals that Sony cameras using the very same sensor. There are numerous examples of this, but Google ot
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This is incorrect. The sensor and optics only record light intensity. How that gets converted into color is a combination of hardware encoded algorithms and software code. This is one of the reasons Nikon cameras running on Sony sensors practically always produce truer colors and lower noise signals that Sony cameras using the very same sensor. There are numerous examples of this, but Google ot
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Thanks for the more technical point of view. At least as far as CM/AOSP based ROMs versus Sense, or versus 3rd party photo apps (which people often claim as "better" pic quality), I've never seen much of a difference in resulting picture quality for the 2 Android phones I've owned. Possibly the hardware coded algorithms you mention play a big role regardless of what is on the software side? Also, while I can believe that software plays some role, I still don't believe that optics are not also important. The quality of the optics (lens) obviously plays a big role on any camera. Given, the lens is tiny on a camera phone, but it still must play a major role.
Related to the quality difference between the two cameras: the main thing I noticed that bugs me the most is that the Sense camera uses the full screen for the photo aspect ratio while the AOSP camera cuts off about 1/4 of the frame with it's giant gray button area.
The full screen camera just felt really good, and then looking though the photos I took they would all perfectly fit the screen.
I can't say I really understand this choice by Google. Does anyone know of a way to force a different aspect ratio? Or perhaps recommend a camera app that will fill the screen?
Does anyone else feel this way or have an argument in favor of the AOSP camera?
Okay I had to go though this for an event and wanted the best picture quality I had to flash 4.5clean +HQ mod. vs cm9 with the best setting and ICS+ below is the comparison.
CM9 1st then 4.5 CleanROm
How ever I use cm9 as my DD and cleanrom if I need o use the Cam
The sensor for the camera in the HoX has. 4:3 aspect ratio. So the pictures that cm9 takes actually use the whole sensor. The sense rooms actually take the 4:3 aspect and cut off the top and bottom to make it 16:9 and then it appears full screen. Cm9 actually gives you a picture with "more detail" in it.
As for the HQ mod for sense cameras, it increases your video quality but decreases still cam, so if you want the best sense cam, don't use HQ.
As for straight quality, they are basically the same. HTC just applies a couple more adjustments to the pic than cm9, but I would rather have the original pic and edit it myself cause I can do better than what HTC auto adjusts
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The sensor for the camera in the HoX has. 4:3 aspect ratio. So the pictures that cm9 takes actually use the whole sensor. The sense rooms actually take the 4:3 aspect and cut off the top and bottom to make it 16:9 and then it appears full screen. Cm9 actually gives you a picture with "more detail" in it.
As for the HQ mod for sense cameras, it increases your video quality but decreases still cam, so if you want the best sense cam, don't use HQ.
As for straight quality, they are basically the same. HTC just applies a couple more adjustments to the pic than cm9, but I would rather have the original pic and edit it myself cause I can do better than what HTC auto adjusts
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The 4.5 cam is posted in the apps forum. Significant improvement over both 4.0 stock and HQ
want to buy wife One S, she had S2 i9100 that went swimming, if any of you have used i9100 how is it compared to One S.
gsmarena is no help as its picture comparison tool showed one S and even One X pictures way bad than S2 that im finding hard to digest.:laugh:
AW: camera quality compared to S2 i9100....
Camera is a bit better, compared to a mates gs2.
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S2 has a bit better daylight outdoor photos but it has a lot trouble with focusing in macro. One s seams to make better low light shots.
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My friend had an S2, One S is definitely far superior
Guys don't fool yourselfs.....GS2 camera is better than the one s.....
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Guys don't fool yourselfs.....GS2 camera is better than the one s.....
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May I possibly ask why?
The One S is a far superior phone, in every way imaginable, camera being one of them. The GS2 camera doesn't have burst mode, or videopic or any of those features. Not only on the software side, but the low light performance is also much better than the GS2.
S2 makes a bit sharper photos in daylight, everything else on one s's side S2 is great phone, one s is superior just in speed over S2.
The one S is better in pretty much every single area by a good amount (including day light/bright conditions), with the sense V4+ update, camera quality improved even further too, colours are more natural and photos look even clearer now. The GS 2 1080P video is better for smoothness and light metering though.
Also the camera UI and the way the one S/sense camera works is far better, got a ton of cool features too i.e. slow motion recording.
Okay. Let's get this right: your wife's phone went swimming. So do you REALLY want to buy the same "ancient" phone for her or a nice new one. That is the question
Given the nature of women, she will hump your brains out for getting something new and nice .
Oh and Btw, sense rocks compared to whatever s2 has
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hunabku said:
Okay. Let's get this right: your wife's phone went swimming. So do you REALLY want to buy the same "ancient" phone for her or a nice new one. That is the question
Given the nature of women, she will hump your brains out for getting something new and nice .
Oh and Btw, sense rocks compared to whatever s2 has
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The one S is better in pretty much every single area by a good amount (including day light/bright conditions), with the sense V4+ update, camera quality improved even further too, colours are more natural and photos look even clearer now. The GS 2 1080P video is better for smoothness and light metering though.
Also the camera UI and the way the one S/sense camera works is far better, got a ton of cool features too i.e. slow motion recording.
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In my opinion, the One S is definitely better for all aspects of the camera. My light metering also works as advertised and my video recording is very smooth, even in low-light conditions.
As I said, my friend had a GS2, my camera shots were much better in all aspects. GS2 is a much older phone anyway
i have no idea
Though this is an old thread but I wanted to add that One S/X/XL is using the same CMOS with S2/Note2, yes the exactly same cmos from Samsung. Actually, their colour reproduction and details level is almost same.
However, One S added 28mm, f/2.0 aperture and imagechip which transform the camera superior over S2/Note2(f/2.6) and even beat Galaxy S3 out easily. You got much faster focus speed, wide lens and much better quality at low light.
Outdoor photo is pretty much identical to S2 i9100, it only because gsmarena used old ver of OS/camera(ICS 4.0.3) in review and the quality was really really bad at that time I can recall my memory.