Hello all,
I work for t-mobile, just got our store HTC amaze in the other day. I was thinking to myself "this is pretty much the same thing as mine, since I've rooted and placed it at it's intended 1.5ghz" only difference is 768mb ram vs 1gb, and a vga ffc vs 2mp ffc.
However, comparing the cameras side by side, live at the same time. The camera on the amaze (same 8mp) blows my sensation out of the water. Examples such as : my sensation looks heavily saturated and unreal (even in high light conditions), also a lot more grainy. My biggest problem is, CAMERA FOCUS.
Side by side i tapped on the screens to focus on my co-workers arm hair. The HTC Amaze made that arm hair look microscopic like a science project. My HTC Sensation while focusing HAD the correct focus for the same sharpness, but it just focused either too much or too little, and it was left blurry, no matter how many times i tried to refocus. The (issue) which it may be, is getting me really pissed off lol.
Is it possible that it has something to do with my rom? What are some troubleshooting steps. My main complaint is that "The focus blows" when it gets it focused correctly its AMAZING, but its just not spot on like the amaze, and why is that.
thebluecoat said:
Hello all,
I work for t-mobile, just got our store HTC amaze in the other day. I was thinking to myself "this is pretty much the same thing as mine, since I've rooted and placed it at it's intended 1.5ghz" only difference is 768mb ram vs 1gb, and a vga ffc vs 2mp ffc.
However, comparing the cameras side by side, live at the same time. The camera on the amaze (same 8mp) blows my sensation out of the water. Examples such as : my sensation looks heavily saturated and unreal (even in high light conditions), also a lot more grainy. My biggest problem is, CAMERA FOCUS.
Side by side i tapped on the screens to focus on my co-workers arm hair. The HTC Amaze made that arm hair look microscopic like a science project. My HTC Sensation while focusing HAD the correct focus for the same sharpness, but it just focused either too much or too little, and it was left blurry, no matter how many times i tried to refocus. The (issue) which it may be, is getting me really pissed off lol.
Is it possible that it has something to do with my rom? What are some troubleshooting steps. My main complaint is that "The focus blows" when it gets it focused correctly its AMAZING, but its just not spot on like the amaze, and why is that.
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They are notthe same camera unfortunately. The camera on the Amaze is more like the camera on the mytouch slide 4g. Visit htcchampions.com and take the quick training on the Amaze and you will see what I am talking about. Hey, atleast your phone/ROM are ok
Scupra said:
They are notthe same camera unfortunately. The camera on the Amaze is more like the camera on the mytouch slide 4g. Visit htcchampions.com and take the quick training on the Amaze and you will see what I am talking about. Hey, atleast your phone/ROM are ok
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Well I'll be damned! lol... I Just bought the phone not even two weeks ago, rumors started surfacing about this "amaze" phone, I then details arose fairly quickly, and BOOM we get it in the store, and it's like MAN!!! GRR
thebluecoat said:
Well I'll be damned! lol... I Just bought the phone not even two weeks ago, rumors started surfacing about this "amaze" phone, I then details arose fairly quickly, and BOOM we get it in the store, and it's like MAN!!! GRR
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Return it. You got 30 days for an exchange.
What is the exchange policy anyway? I'm a happy Sensation owner since I purchased it on the 24th of September and now I see all the hype for the new HTC Amaze. Anyway I thought the exchange policy for T-Mobile used to be 20 days and thought they changed it to 14. I could be way off as I'm a new T-Mobile customer as well.
rudiepoo1 said:
What is the exchange policy anyway? I'm a happy Sensation owner since I purchased it on the 24th of September and now I see all the hype for the new HTC Amaze. Anyway I thought the exchange policy for T-Mobile used to be 20 days and thought they changed it to 14. I could be way off as I'm a new T-Mobile customer as well.
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I live on SoCal and did a 30 day exchange switch of phones twice.
Lol you can never be happy with technology, you buy something now and in no time it's literally crap because something better comes out. I say screw it be happy with what you got! It's not a bad phone after all, but if you a big pimpin' gee heck with it go buy a better phone lol.
rudiepoo1 said:
What is the exchange policy anyway? I'm a happy Sensation owner since I purchased it on the 24th of September and now I see all the hype for the new HTC Amaze. Anyway I thought the exchange policy for T-Mobile used to be 20 days and thought they changed it to 14. I could be way off as I'm a new T-Mobile customer as well.
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I'm in Minnesota, if its an upgrade, you have 14 days, new activation you have 30 days. Either way, at least in Minnesota, there is a $50 dollar restocking fee. Im trying to decide if the Amaze is that much better of a phone. especially if I dont take a ton of photos with my phone. Plus if i can root the Sensation and run it at 1.5 ghz whats the diff? thoughts?
thanks!
Lakeshow423 said:
Return it. You got 30 days for an exchange.
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LOL! you customers have it so easy. as a corporate employee, once u buy it that's it, no exchanges.
Lol yea but you get it on the cheap. I love my sensation but the wife has one more discount this year and we are going to get this or the S2.
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Havoc1127 said:
Lol yea but you get it on the cheap. I love my sensation but the wife has one more discount this year and we are going to get this or the S2.
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Incorrect. After taxes, I'm going to pay about 332 for my sensation. Low tenured reps only get 40% off FULL retail, then we get taxed the amount of the discount as income, and in NY, you're gettin banged.
Customers have it so good!
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In most states the Buyer Remorse period is 14 days. Cali being the only exception I can think of.
thebluecoat said:
Incorrect. After taxes, I'm going to pay about 332 for my sensation. Low tenured reps only get 40% off FULL retail, then we get taxed the amount of the discount as income, and in NY, you're gettin banged.
Customers have it so good!
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after taxes i only paid $290... Sensation 4G is awesome. stick with it imo. Best feature coming to the Amaze is the NFC chip which you didnt even mention so im guessing you dont care that much about it; it will take retailers a while to get caught up to NFC anyways.
I told myself im not allowed to buy another phone till we get the nexus [prime] if you want, ill let you borrow my boundary for yourself
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I'm getting a sensation today in a trade. Are there any big issues that I should keep an eye out for?
Thanks in advance!
Look out for overheating issue when charging, mine overheats to 52 degrees while charging so if your phone overheats more than 45 degrees when charging, you know something is wrong. Rebooting issue is after overheating, so take not of that too
Don't quote me, am speaking from my personal experience, going to exchange for my 3rd set now
Make sure the screen looks fine without any missing pixels or faded.
Also check to see if the backing of the phone is not loose.
Maybe ask for a receipt from the person you are trading? Im sure the phone is still in its 14 day return period if he or she bought it at walmart.
Dust under the screen, nothing else can piss$&# off....
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graffixnyc said:
I'm getting a sensation today in a trade. Are there any big issues that I should keep an eye out for?
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The biggest issue you have to worry about would be your reaction to the look and feel of the form factor. It's so sexy to hold you might feel the need to make love to it right then and there. Would be a little embarrassing during your trade.
digiholic said:
The biggest issue you have to worry about would be your reaction to the look and feel of the form factor. It's so sexy to hold you might feel the need to make love to it right then and there. Would be a little embarrassing during your trade.
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Lol.. Post of the day!
digiholic said:
The biggest issue you have to worry about would be your reaction to the look and feel of the form factor. It's so sexy to hold you might feel the need to make love to it right then and there. Would be a little embarrassing during your trade.
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hahaha I wanted this phone so bad I gave my left lung for it. Couldnt meet the guy today but we are meeting tomorrow. He said it's brand new never used, still sealed in the box. I'm trading him a used but like new g2x, used but mint g2 and a brand new sealed g2 for the sensation (only paid for the g2x, the other 2 were free) figured I could have sold them off on cl then cought the sensation but I was too impatient.
I really cant wait to get this phone. I always LOVED sense but hated how it bogged down a phone so I NEVER used it. One of the devs for the g2 rmk told me I should try the sense 3.0 rom before I got the sensation to see if I'd like it. and wow.. it ran pretty damn smooth on the g2 with one cpu and only 512 of ram. I was very impressed! there was some lag but not the kind I remember from sense. So seeing that and thinking how it would be on the more powerful sensation sold me! After a night of sense 3.0 on my g2 I thought "I MUST get the sensation"
I still have another g2x as well that will become my back up phone
graffixnyc said:
hahaha I wanted this phone so bad I gave my left lung for it. Couldnt meet the guy today but we are meeting tomorrow. He said it's brand new never used, still sealed in the box. I'm trading him a used but like new g2x, used but mint g2 and a brand new sealed g2 for the sensation (only paid for the g2x, the other 2 were free) figured I could have sold them off on cl then cought the sensation but I was too impatient.
I really cant wait to get this phone. I always LOVED sense but hated how it bogged down a phone so I NEVER used it. One of the devs for the g2 rmk told me I should try the sense 3.0 rom before I got the sensation to see if I'd like it. and wow.. it ran pretty damn smooth on the g2 with one cpu and only 512 of ram. I was very impressed! there was some lag but not the kind I remember from sense. So seeing that and thinking how it would be on the more powerful sensation sold me! After a night of sense 3.0 on my g2 I thought "I MUST get the sensation"
I still have another g2x as well that will become my back up phone
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Trading 3 phones for the sensation? Why not sell them on Craigslist and buy a sensation off contract with a nice warranty and the knowledge that its never Bern messed with? Might even have a bit of money to spare
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marky310 said:
Trading 3 phones for the sensation? Why not sell them on Craigslist and buy a sensation off contract with a nice warranty and the knowledge that its never Bern messed with? Might even have a bit of money to spare
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10charac
marky310 said:
Trading 3 phones for the sensation? Why not sell them on Craigslist and buy a sensation off contract with a nice warranty and the knowledge that its never Bern messed with? Might even have a bit of money to spare
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+1 to that.
Sent from my G2x
marky310 said:
Trading 3 phones for the sensation? Why not sell them on Craigslist and buy a sensation off contract with a nice warranty and the knowledge that its never Bern messed with? Might even have a bit of money to spare
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Because selling them would take too long and too much of a hassle. I just have to go meet one person and have one exchange as opposed to having to run around the city meeting 3 people and doing three exchanges.. Plus, I wanted this phone last week and I'm really not losing anything on the deal since 2 of them were free. I just found out the one I'm getting is actually sealed never used so I'm not worried he messed with it.
Trip G2s and a G2x for a Sensation? Wow, you really want it badly. You are NOT getting a fair trade. However, as long as you are happy it doesn't matter what the rest of us think.
You may do well to keep one of the G2's. He is still getting an awesome deal.
pinhead said:
Trip G2s and a G2x for a Sensation? Wow, you really want it badly. You are NOT getting a fair trade. However, as long as you are happy it doesn't matter what the rest of us think.
You may do well to keep one of the G2's. He is still getting an awesome deal.
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2 g2's not 3. yeah I do want it badly. Plus I always luck out and get free devices (I have a free mytouch 4g coming to me next week) So I dont mind, How I see it is I'm paying it forward I really have no use for 2 g2x's, 2 g2's a mt4g and a sensation. lol
I made it a deal someone couldnt refuse
graffixnyc said:
hahaha I wanted this phone so bad I gave my left lung for it. Couldnt meet the guy today but we are meeting tomorrow. He said it's brand new never used, still sealed in the box. I'm trading him a used but like new g2x, used but mint g2 and a brand new sealed g2 for the sensation (only paid for the g2x, the other 2 were free) figured I could have sold them off on cl then cought the sensation but I was too impatient.
I really cant wait to get this phone. I always LOVED sense but hated how it bogged down a phone so I NEVER used it. One of the devs for the g2 rmk told me I should try the sense 3.0 rom before I got the sensation to see if I'd like it. and wow.. it ran pretty damn smooth on the g2 with one cpu and only 512 of ram. I was very impressed! there was some lag but not the kind I remember from sense. So seeing that and thinking how it would be on the more powerful sensation sold me! After a night of sense 3.0 on my g2 I thought "I MUST get the sensation"
I still have another g2x as well that will become my back up phone
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I can see the smile on that guys face as he walks away,I won't be as nice as these other posters,you must be out of your fuggin mind to do that trade,tell me you aren't that foolish,trading well over 1k worth of phones for a 550 dollar phone,stop being so damn lazy and sell the phones,the Sensation isn't going anywhere
Yo im about to go buy one off contract n come trade u hold up
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WATER DAMAGE, WATER DAMAGE, WATER DAMATE!!!!. First thing you should do is take the back cover off, pull out the battery and make sure that little round white sticker is still white, NOT pinkish, red, kinda red, kinda pink, spotted pink, spotted red, stripped pink, stripped red,,,,it should be WHITE!!!!
Yea that's a horrible trade man... You should definitely put the extra work in and get the extra money from selling
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Macklessdaddy said:
I can see the smile on that guys face as he walks away,I won't be as nice as these other posters,you must be out of your fuggin mind to do that trade,tell me you aren't that foolish,trading well over 1k worth of phones for a 550 dollar phone,stop being so damn lazy and sell the phones,the Sensation isn't going anywhere
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It's not being lazy, I am SUPER busy... I have a full time job in IT, go to school at night full-time, play in a band a few nights a week and weekends, plus trying to get a computer consulting business off the ground and then finding time for android deving in whatever spare time I have. So before you call someone lazy you should know something about the person before you make that judgement. It's not being lazy, it's being EFFICIENT and using my time WISELY. If I had paid ANYTHING for the 2 g2's I wouldnt do the deal, but I dont care if they go. I paid nothing for them so it's nothing to worry about especially when I have another g2x and a mt4g coming next week. So you can say I'm outta my mind but at the end of the day nothing comes out of my pocket and I still have more devices than I know what to do with
I am curious as to how you get them for free?
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I am curious how you get them for free?
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Through my business. As it grows and I add lines I get the free offer phones (the g2's were free a few weeks ago when I added two lines) now the mt4g is free and I added a line and got that for free. I give my contractors older phones that I have never new ones.
We have what's considered a breakthrough phone we are going to have to give HTC sometime to get it right. If you get frustrated its your own fault. I haven't had any problems with my device. Anybody else feel the same way.
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i agree, the phone is phenomenal, but the major concern is all the bloatware hogging ram, and the NON STOP data because of them...
not to mention, most HTC users here are used to 100% accesable hardware/software, mostly thx to teh devs tho, and NOT HTC.
they made a promise they couldnt keep, and YET AGAIN, the devs beat em to it
#teamwin should rename to HTC, LTD.
Hate
The
Corporation,
Love
The
Device!
I'm with you on that I love the device people are looking for the smallest problems though and complaining. I understand saying something about rooting or bloatware but if your swipe don't work download a different keyboard or don't use it.
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bigpopapat said:
I understand saying something about rooting or bloatware but if your swipe don't work download a different keyboard or don't use it.
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hahaha, that thread was a headache
on top of that, for all concerned users, if you dont like sense, WTF would you buy HTC's flagship fone with the first iteration of 3.0 on a fone?!?
if you want cyanogen right away, get an incredible S, or be patient.
thats all there is to it.
im just as pissed as the next guy about HTC's bull**** approach to this bootloader fiasco, but really, did you think that they would actually release it before the community? not a chance, they still havent OTA'd GB for desire
Solidus_n313 said:
hahaha, that thread was a headache
on top of that, for all concerned users, if you dont like sense, WTF would you buy HTC's flagship fone with the first iteration of 3.0 on a fone?!?
if you want cyanogen right away, get an incredible S, or be patient.
thats all there is to it.
im just as pissed as the next guy about HTC's bull**** approach to this bootloader fiasco, but really, did you think that they would actually release it before the community? not a chance, they still havent OTA'd GB for desire
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i been saying this for the longest
not really (but no flame intended)
no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02
steve austin said:
no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02
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CUZ STONE COLD SAYS SO! sorry dude ... had to.
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steve austin said:
no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02
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no your wrong , this was the first phone where sense 3.0 was implemented ,so there fore thats the breakthrough ,evo is a breakthrough with the 3d camera ,which imo is gimmiky ,evo quite simply got an updated version of the rom that is on the sensation, its HTC'S fault for not responding fast enough with an update to fix the issues on the sensation
@ running sloth: np. I have been seeing that a lot lately, though my name is in homage to the original Steve Austin, the 6 million Dollar man.
not really, again...
tigerz0202 said:
no your wrong , this was the first phone where sense 3.0 was implemented ,so there fore thats the breakthrough ,evo is a breakthrough with the 3d camera ,which imo is gimmiky ,evo quite simply got an updated version of the rom that is on the sensation, its HTC'S fault for not responding fast enough with an update to fix the issues on the sensation
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though gimmicky the EVO 3D - FIRST/close to first 3d phone of its kind - is a "breakthrough". the new Mytouch coming out, which T-mo is hailing as THE most advanced camera on a smart phone is a "breakthrough". The sensation is NOT the first multimedia phone -_-. It doesn't have THE best speakers, THE best surround sound, THE best screen, THE most on board storage capacity for all the media you house. Furthermore, Sense 3.0 is NOT a breakthrough. it is an "improvement" over the previous version. If the Evo 3D came out two days before the Sensation would it have beat the Sensation to the "breakthrough" mark? No. They both run it. But, this is where i bow out. I make no money off of fighting for or against htc. I humbly agree to disagree my friend.
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though gimmicky the EVO 3D - FIRST/close to first 3d phone of its kind - is a "breakthrough". the new Mytouch coming out, which T-mo is hailing as THE most advanced camera on a smart phone is a "breakthrough". The sensation is NOT the first multimedia phone -_-. It doesn't have THE best speakers, THE best surround sound, THE best screen, THE most on board storage capacity for all the media you house. Furthermore, Sense 3.0 is NOT a breakthrough. it is an "improvement" over the previous version. If the Evo 3D came out two days before the Sensation would it have beat the Sensation to the "breakthrough" mark? No. They both run it. But, this is where i bow out. I make no money off of fighting for or against htc. I humbly agree to disagree my friend.
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you also gotta keep in mind that these phones most of the time hit overseas first, so essentially the sensation was out before we got our hands on it , it seems to me an update to the software between now and then is over due , remember the commercials ,the sensations camera was supposed to be the first to have point and click ,so does that mean the camera on the my touch is just an updated version of the sensations camera ....who knows ,but i am with you we could go on all day with this , all im saying is we should have done had an update and IMO thats poor customer service coming from HTC
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you also gotta keep in mind that these phones most of the time hit overseas first, so essentially the sensation was out before we got our hands on it , it seems to me an update to the software between now and then is over due , remember the commercials ,the sensations camera was supposed to be the first to have point and click ,so does that mean the camera on the my touch is just an updated version of the sensations camera ....who knows ,but i am with you we could go on all day with this , all im saying is we should have done had an update and IMO thats poor customer service coming from HTC
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Though it is not my intent to go in on htc, you are right. However, from the updates the evo 3d has already received and the specs, it is becoming clear (to me at least) that the sheer volume of customers Sprint has dictates that htc pays more attention to them and their happiness. By design or on consistent coincidences, there has appeared to be a difference in the phones and the updates they get over t-mo. This is not related to the topic, i know, but since you brought it up...
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Though it is not my intent to go in on htc, you are right. However, from the updates the evo 3d has already received and the specs, it is becoming clear (to me at least) that the sheer volume of customers Sprint has dictates that htc pays more attention to them and their happiness. By design or on consistent coincidences, there has appeared to be a difference in the phones and the updates they get over t-mo. This is not related to the topic, i know, but since you brought it up...
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I made a post saying the same thing and got flamed..ha.
It's only the amount of devices affected and customers out of that amount affected that gets HTC to respond and quite simply "Sprint don't play that sh*t" in a nutshell. To be non-technical.
T-Mobile is on self-destruct right about now I might have to say. Sad part is its NOT intentional. I do however feel it's unfair to ignore others who are having issues.
My personal example of issues:
Device 1: Returned due to dead pixels like freckles.
Device 2: Returned Random signal drop not tower related
I'm now on device 3 and i have had it for 4 days...The power/wake button has "con-caved" on one side and today my touch screen stopped responding and i can barely unlock the screen now. I can barerly swipe left and right...I have NO apps downloaded other than Tweetdeck and XDA so IDK what could be causing it.
So I agree about the "senseless" (for lack of a better word) babbling about dumb stuff in here but some of us do have issues.
It was not long ago at all that HTC said they would be changing their policy on bootloaders. People get WAY to uptight when it doesn't happen right away. HTC never said when it would happen. Ya gotta give corporations time....end of story. If their NEW phones don't have unlocked loaders in say 6 months, then people have the right to ***** and call foul.
HTC has done NOTHING wrong. Period.
bigpopapat said:
We have what's considered a breakthrough phone we are going to have to give HTC sometime to get it right. If you get frustrated its your own fault. I haven't had any problems with my device. Anybody else feel the same way.
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I've tried swype shame it doesnt work only downside to a good handset what keyboard do you guys suggest I'm using vlingo keyboard at moment. .. same we can't get emoji to
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Hoggles said:
It was not long ago at all that HTC said they would be changing their policy on bootloaders. People get WAY to uptight when it doesn't happen right away. HTC never said when it would happen. Ya gotta give corporations time....end of story. If their NEW phones don't have unlocked loaders in say 6 months, then people have the right to ***** and call foul.
HTC has done NOTHING wrong. Period.
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...even thought they went out of their way to say that the evo3D was going to be S-OFF :/
also, htc did nothing wrong by locking the bootloader, but where they DID go wrong is how they expressed their dedication to their customers and will unlock, then completely disappeared...
not to mention they have pushed many updates to the evo3D, and one for sensation, yet no S-OFF, AND they have a new phone coming out again! the pint size sensation, it has 50% specs of S4G...
...quietly disappointing
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I've tried swype shame it doesnt work only downside to a good handset what keyboard do you guys suggest I'm using vlingo keyboard at moment. .. same we can't get emoji to
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Try ultra keyboard. It has arrow keys and a host of other great features.
steve austin said:
no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02
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+1 GREAT POST
Sensation a breakthrough phone?
COME ON! WAKE UP!
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tigerz0202 said:
no your wrong , this was the first phone where sense 3.0 was implemented ,so there fore thats the breakthrough ,evo is a breakthrough with the 3d camera ,which imo is gimmiky ,evo quite simply got an updated version of the rom that is on the sensation, its HTC'S fault for not responding fast enough with an update to fix the issues on the sensation
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Sense 3.0 was on the Desire HD before sensation released!
Plus its much faster on Desire HD then on the Sensation [email protected]
steve austin said:
though gimmicky the EVO 3D - FIRST/close to first 3d phone of its kind - is a "breakthrough". the new Mytouch coming out, which T-mo is hailing as THE most advanced camera on a smart phone is a "breakthrough". The sensation is NOT the first multimedia phone -_-. It doesn't have THE best speakers, THE best surround sound, THE best screen, THE most on board storage capacity for all the media you house. Furthermore, Sense 3.0 is NOT a breakthrough. it is an "improvement" over the previous version. If the Evo 3D came out two days before the Sensation would it have beat the Sensation to the "breakthrough" mark? No. They both run it. But, this is where i bow out. I make no money off of fighting for or against htc. I humbly agree to disagree my friend.
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Evo3D is the TRUE BREAKTHROUGH!
I Cannot understand how Sensation Owners think the Sensation stands a chance against the Evo
I ignorantly purchasable G2x the day before the Sensation came out for T-Mobile USA. I will begin trying to trade for one. What are the chances that there will be Sensation owners willing to part ways for a G2x?
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chances were low when I was trying to do that last month. you will probably have to chip in another $50. Prices of sensation on Craigslist have been dropping gradually so it's possible. But I don't think a sensation user wont give it up for a g2x..
Very unlikely now that we have s off.
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I'm willing to do do $50. The best buy Rep told me I had 30 days to return it. Of course T-Mobile only offers 14 days. I've been living with regret ever since! Haha!
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I'm willing to do do $50. The best buy Rep told me I had 30 days to return it. Of course T-Mobile only offers 14 days. I've been living with regret ever since! Haha!
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well I think both phones are pretty similar, the only advantages are bigger screen. qHD, and better camera.
Lol, i was one of the lucky one to exchange my G2x out last week and got $3 back from tmobile. I seriously doubt you will find someone here willing to exchange it now that s-off/root is possible. If you can still do it with the Best Buy plan i will say go for it and take the loss. I have always said this and will keep saying it. The so called update LG released will most likely be the last one. Both Tmobile and LG are washing their hands off the G2x...
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Lol, i was one of the lucky one to exchange my G2x out last week and got $3 back from tmobile. I seriously doubt you will find someone here willing to exchange it now that s-off/root is possible. If you can still do it with the Best Buy plan i will say go for it and take the loss. I have always said this and will keep saying it. The so called update LG released will most likely be the last one. Both Tmobile and LG are washing their hands off the G2x...
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Is it really that horrible of a phone??!
NYCguy2020 said:
Is it really that horrible of a phone??!
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It's a pretty good phone if you get a stable one. The IPS display is really nice and the Tegra chip is pretty good...not to mention it was recently updated to stock Gingerbread. I still prefer the Sensation, however.
G2x is the worst smartphone I have owned. Hopefully the next nexus is not made by them. LG has still long way to go in order to compete for high end android smartphones. I hope they learn from the mistakes of optimus 2x/g2x and make better phones in the future.
Pros of Sensation over G2X IMO:
-higher resolution
-better camera and video
-Better screen (imo, no bleed)
-bigger screen while about the same size
-hardware may be more powerful
-more stable
Cons:
-bad WiFi. mediocre reception, terrible death grip (not even death grip tbh, more so just put a finger back there and it dies)
-worse front facing camera
-less reliable touch screen
-eats battery during heavy use faster (drops like a rock)
-heavier (not too bad though)
-no dedicated hdmi port
The rest comes down to personal preference. I have a weird glitch where changing volume in calls does nothing whatsoever, but that's probably just my sensation. Tbh I don't know which phone I'd pick if I had to choose again. I love the better screen and camera of the sensation, but the WiFi is much much worse in my experience.
I got one if the good ones. I've never had a problem. I just think the sensation looks prettier. I guess I'm vein! Haha
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Ok where to begin...
I got a Sensation last thursday 10/6/11. Absolutely loved the phone. Loved everything about it. how it felt and looked and how it ran and literally everything. A couple days later i got dust under screen. Just one little spec but enough to bug me. I took it back that Tuesday the 11th. They exchanged it no problems. Went back to work and started setting it up. Had a bigger piece of dust out of the box! So I went back later that day after work to get a 3rd. They guys there were real nice but said we can get you another phone but who knows what will happen. So the next day I got the Amaze. The phone is great. Everything the Sensation had only a little better performance wise. Not a lot but you could tell. Although I still like the feel of the Sensation a lot better. BUT...... right now the wifi calling is not supported and the phone needs an update but no one knows when this will happen. And I NEED wifi calling. I don't know how I got by before!
So to get to the point my big question is do I wait for the Amaze update to get wifi calling or go back to a Sensation praying that I get a dust free phone?
I can't solve your problem but I can tell you that the chances of you getting dust under the screen of your next sensation are extremely high.
Many of us are plagued with it. Some have exchanged their phones 5+ times and got dust under the screen on all of them. I'm personally on my 3rd one and this one has the issue as well. At this point I just don't care enough to keep replacing/rooting them for just a couple small specs of dust.
I played with the Amaze yesterday and was not impressed with it at all.
I might get the Amaze soon. I can sell the Sensation and probably come.out with a little bit of cash with the swap. I got a hookup at tmobile to upgrade anytimw lol. They already have temp root in the development section. Its a nice solid looking phone with nice features!
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I might get the Amaze soon. I can sell the Sensation and probably come.out with a little bit of cash with the swap. I got a hookup at tmobile to upgrade anytimw lol. They already have temp root in the development section. Its a nice solid looking phone with nice features!
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Did you ever get dust under your screen or have any problems with call quality?
I would say keep it. T-Mo seems proud of their wi-fi calling and I'm sure that they won't let their new flagship go without it for very long.
I considered waiting for the Amaze but IMHO the new features weren't worth the extra money. I did exchange my first Sensation due to dust yesterday (so far so good on the new one but it's only been a day), but neither had problems with call quality.
Just wait for the prime
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I like the look of the S4G more!
i myself have been considering returning the amaze and getting back my sensation. although i don't see any serious issues with the amaze, i feel like the only differences in the 2, besides the look and feel, are software differences, which can be easily solved by a ROM. I think the 2 have the exact same hardware, but i could be wrong, if im wrong someone please let me know what the hardware differences are. i know the amaze is 1.5 ghz compared to the sensations 1.2 ghz, but if im not mistaken its the same exact processor just clocked higher... Also, ive been considering going back to the sensation solely for the fact of how many great dev are developing for the sensation.... what to do, what to do....
The Amaze has the 42 mbps modem and here in Detroit I was pulling 14 mbps down consistently. Also has more RAM which will hopefully take care of the Sense restarts. I want the Amaze but like the OP, I absolutely need wifi calling. Zero signal at work.
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How do ppl get dust under the screen? Do u ppl leave ur phone like in dirty dust places?? Ha. No dust here at all
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Nick L said:
I would say keep it. T-Mo seems proud of their wi-fi calling and I'm sure that they won't let their new flagship go without it for very long.
I considered waiting for the Amaze but IMHO the new features weren't worth the extra money. I did exchange my first Sensation due to dust yesterday (so far so good on the new one but it's only been a day), but neither had problems with call quality.
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Isn't the SGS2 the flagship? Not that I'm a Samsung fan, but I think it is.
Mmm...So, you got a newer model.
I saw the Amaze online and I think Sensation looks a lot better.
SoFaKiNgStOkeD said:
Isn't the SGS2 the flagship? Not that I'm a Samsung fan, but I think it is.
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no im pretty sure its the amaze...
what would your next phone be between the htc sensation and htc amaze?
sold my mt4g and dont know what to get next.. opinions?
im gonna miss the mechanical buttons everythings touch now
grimey01 said:
what would your next phone be between the htc sensation and htc amaze?
sold my mt4g and dont know what to get next.. opinions?
im gonna miss the mechanical buttons everythings touch now
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you might want to be careful, one of those two are EOL. My dad has it and it's approaching the end of life.
Honestly my next jump will be to the Nexus, who ever is carrying it. I'm not loyal to T-Mobile any longer.
amaze is sexy stock but that's all its gonna be as development hasn't exploded yet. better hardware though.
sensations got those roms with worse hardware and its already OLD
I go with sgs2 imo why don't you consider that
but amaze out of the options.
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I'm going for the amaze hands down. Device is sexy and a beast. I know, I bought it for my girl. I'm always messing with it. My brother also just bought it.
neidlinger said:
you might want to be careful, one of those two are EOL. My dad has it and it's approaching the end of life.
Honestly my next jump will be to the Nexus, who ever is carrying it. I'm not loyal to T-Mobile any longer.
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which one is that?
over in the amaze forums theyre getting s-off soon (finally) and ICS is still coming from HTC.. they have hopes that development will pick up
I2IEAILiiTY said:
If you're upgrading through t-mo, just wait a few weeks. The One S should be out this month.
If not, get the sensation if you plan on rooting it and what not, if you're not going to root it, then get the amaze.
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This
I just got the Sensation. Development for it is booming. I ultimately chose it over the Amaze because it's cheaper. But here are some other factors that will play a role:
1. Ram and memory. Amaze has 1GB, 16GB, respectively. 728mhz (same as mt4g) and
1GB memory on the Sensation is good enough for me.
2. Processor. Amaze has a newer and faster dual-core processor. I didn't care for it much. The Sensation is running graphic heavy games just as smoothly as the MT4G. So this wasn't a big factor.
3. Camera. I definitely wish the Sensation had a dedicated camera button. But it's not a deal breaker and actually looks sexier without one. But still convenient, nonetheless
4. HSPA. Theoretically, Amaze has 42mbps vs. 14mbps Sensation.
All these numbers I typed may be a little off.
The Sensation has a HQ Camera mod to capture pictures uncompressed. So that and video look amazing. Idk how the Amaze is. But with that mod, the Sensation is on par, if not a bit better.
The big factors for me was an upgraded camera over the MT4G and development. The Sensation actually looks sexier, imo. All the Amaze had me for was basically the camera buttons.
Hope this helps. At first I was badly needing to get the Amaze when it first came out. But as time passed, it's still expensive and development is nowhere near the Sensation's. I'm happy with it.
Fyi, there are people on craigslist wanting to trade their Amaze for a Sensation + cash.. Kinda makes you wonder.
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amaze is sexy stock but that's all its gonna be as development hasn't exploded yet. better hardware though.
sensations got those roms with worse hardware and its already OLD
I go with sgs2 imo why don't you consider that
but amaze out of the options.
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I wouldn't go for the Galaxy S 2... At least not the tmobile version...
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I guess that's where there's an advantage to being an old dood like me. I tend to be more content with my phones, the older I get. Right now, other than a larger screen, I still think the mt4g is as good as the Sensation or Amaze. Also the Amaze has been slower in development. If I had to choose though, I would like the Sensation. But for now, my mt4g is plenty. I keep it on my 18mbps WiFi connection 97% of the time & it flies...
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which one is that?
over in the amaze forums theyre getting s-off soon (finally) and ICS is still coming from HTC.. they have hopes that development will pick up
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I'm wanting to say the Amaze, but i'm going to have to ask him again. He just got it on my recommendation, and something broke on the phone. so he had to replace and the CSR told him that the phone was nearing EOL, which in this market isn't a surprise.
But i'm sick of T-Mobile not having heavy hitters when it comes to power users.
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I'm wanting to say the Amaze, but i'm going to have to ask him again. He just got it on my recommendation, and something broke on the phone. so he had to replace and the CSR told him that the phone was nearing EOL, which in this market isn't a surprise.
But i'm sick of T-Mobile not having heavy hitters when it comes to power users.
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Same. My contract ends in December, and my mom is also fed up with T-Mobile and their service. May leave to Verizon or AT&T, but definitely not Sprint! Or we may stay with T-Mobile and I will get the One S ...but so far she's not letting me spend the money..
My dad hates T-Mobile as well, we will prolly jump to verizon when we get the chance. Service is better but i highly recommend that you stay with htc. They build phones that feel like they will last. I suggest the One S if you have the money. Otherwise, i like the amaze but ultimetly, both will serve you fine for the next 2 years.
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Same. My contract ends in December, and my mom is also fed up with T-Mobile and their service. May leave to Verizon or AT&T, but definitely not Sprint! Or we may stay with T-Mobile and I will get the One S ...but so far she's not letting me spend the money..
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I would go with sprint before I would consider Verizon or at&t.
coupetastic-droid said:
I would go with sprint before I would consider Verizon or at&t.
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I wouldn't because of the coverage. My friend who has Sprint has awful coverage. Oh well
hmm... seems like Sprint's HTC One version is going to be called the "HTC EVO LTE"... how creative...
http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/media/blog/2012/04/05/hands-sprint-htc-evo-4g-lte-featuring-snapdragon-s4-processor
Im guessing your on tmobile and if you are you should really get the galaxy s2. I went from mt4g to galaxy s2 and got use it to in a day
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Go for the sensation I just got mine last week and let me tell you the sensation is nowhere near dead devlopment is booming. Also its a world phone and there's so many devs which is a plus. And they are really nice over there. I'm happy with my choice I made
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saranhai said:
I wouldn't go for the Galaxy S 2... At least not the tmobile version...
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interesting why not
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rockstarar said:
interesting why not
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one of my buddies has the SGSII, but its the Sprint version so I really dont know if theres a difference between all the GSII phones. he says he absolutely hates it and is already on his 3rd and final replacement before switching. battery life sucked, poor build quality(he likes to throw his phones around lol), unresponsive screen at times...I messed around with it one day and it just wasnt for me. nice screen, but still not great quality.
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one of my buddies has the SGSII, but its the Sprint version so I really dont know if theres a difference between all the GSII phones. he says he absolutely hates it and is already on his 3rd and final replacement before switching. battery life sucked, poor build quality(he likes to throw his phones around lol), unresponsive screen at times...I messed around with it one day and it just wasnt for me. nice screen, but still not great quality.
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i like samsung designs, but they dont feel solid in the hand. too plastic-y for my liking. HTC always builds heavy duty devices.
the sgs2 is a very popular phone but touchwiz is lame and besides hummingbird, its useless..
well, maybe tegra 3 is a plus point, but i dont think the t-mobile sgs2 has tegra?
btw, i need to stick with AWS phones since here in canada i get everything unlimited for $25 a month with an AWS carrier