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Im a DHD owner and are unsure if ishould uppdate.
Have major problems with My dhd
Bad with MY dhd
Bad call reception
BLUETOOTH CALL PROBLEMS
pure battery
Pure wifi reception
We own4 dhd in the family and mine is theonly one with problems. Tierd of leaving it for ser vice after 3 times, everytime 2-3 weaks!
So sensation owners what do u think?
Edit.excuse my speeling. Writing on a transformer pad screen.
I am desire Hd owner and I will be upgrading to the sensation once it gets unlocked.
As long as you can get a fair price for your desire HD, i say upgrade it
I just traded my Desire HD and Dell Streak for the Sensation I hated the power button my Desire HD. Not sure if it was just mine (I did have the digitizer replaced) or it was like that by design, but the power button on the Sensation is loads better
I say do it. The Sensation is the successor to the Desire HD. So many things that are better about it!
I hate that power button also
I always found my DHD to be a bit creaky in the hand, especially the sim cover. The Sensation does feel solid, quality.
I listen to music a lot over bluetooth, I like the fact that the quality is so much better than DHD, with SRS/equaliser also available over A2DP.
Camera also seems much sharper.
Battery not sure about yet, looks encouraging though.
Yes
Sell your DHD. The Sensation is a magnificent peace of hardware a lot better , faster , thinner .Battery life is a big improvement after a week I would say between 50 and 75% percent impovement.
Is there is a trowback it's the sense 3.0 a lot of eyecatching nonsense ; not so usefull but still memory eating. The Unlock screen at the other hand is very well done.
So yes .
I'm on my second Sensation... First developed a screen response issue, followed quickly by random resets... The replacement is fantastic, just as the first was supposed to be.
I highly rate this phone, everything from the screen to the battery (I managed 11h 30m from a 80% charge, and still had 30% left. Not mad usage, few calls, sms, games).
I wasn't so happy with the build quality on the DHD. Power button and volume buttons seemed to be mis-aligned, and the sim and memory card cover was ill-fitting...
The new design cover may be harder to get off, but it's miles better...
I would say, the Sensation is a great bit of hardware. But Sense 3.0 is a total donkey, whizzing out of control for no reason, convoluted contacts system.
Just a total pain in the arse, I upgraded from a standard Desire. I wanted to be able to test games I'm developing on qHD. I never felt like I needed an upgrade really. Strangely, what I missed most is the track-pad, and the comparatively snappy response of Sense 2.0.
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My 2 cents...
NO dont upgrade.
I have had no issues with my Desire HD running Sense 3.0 and OC to 1.8ghz, so...
The Sensation is Hardware wise Desire HD x 2.
Sure its an upgrade... but an upgrade that is worth it compared to other competition. I'd say no.
The Screen is crappier then the 1 on my inspire (SLCD vs SLCD) and hardware is basicly identical other then dual core + gpu.
Also Sensation has worse Build quality then desire hd.
3kgt said:
Im a DHD owner and are unsure if ishould uppdate.
Have major problems with My dhd
Bad with MY dhd
Bad call reception
BLUETOOTH CALL PROBLEMS
pure battery
Pure wifi reception
We own4 dhd in the family and mine is theonly one with problems. Tierd of leaving it for ser vice after 3 times, everytime 2-3 weaks!
So sensation owners what do u think?
Edit.excuse my speeling. Writing on a transformer pad screen.
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I think i'm going to sell my brand new Sensation on the bay. Is has no major value and also has no big changes. I though it was faster than my DHD with Android Revolution, but it was not. Yes it has a great battery life, but not a very big changes with my old DHD. It has a very good resolution but it's not what I was looking for. My DHD is not crappy, nothing to say. If you scroll the menu fast I see some freeze. Yeah, I'm wondering the reason why I bought it. Beeing a dual core is not so faster than, oh yes, than the iPhone.
When I changed my Desire for the Desire HD I noticed an incredible change... not now.
I suggest you you wait something different...Sorry.
Maedhros said:
My 2 cents...
NO dont upgrade.
I have had no issues with my Desire HD running Sense 3.0 and OC to 1.8ghz, so...
The Sensation is Hardware wise Desire HD x 2.
Sure its an upgrade... but an upgrade that is worth it compared to other competition. I'd say no.
The Screen is crappier then the 1 on my inspire (SLCD vs SLCD) and hardware is basicly identical other then dual core + gpu.
Also Sensation has worse Build quality then desire hd.
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How is the build quality worse? I've found it so much better. My Desire HD's battery cover used to creak all the time, and there was a significant gap between the battery cover and the aluminium back.
redbullcat said:
How is the build quality worse? I've found it so much better. My Desire HD's battery cover used to creak all the time, and there was a significant gap between the battery cover and the aluminium back.
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I have an Inspire 4 so..
No Creaking on my hardware. Nor any gap. I'd recemend calling HTC to send out free replacements.
When I say better build Quality I mean the Desire HD is ONE piece, whilst the Sensation is not. And from Initial reports Sensation has Reception + screen issues.
Why would I upgrade to a phone which has a screeen which is Inferior to my current?
HTC REALLY needs to step up...
My Guess for Sensation 2 is... Super SLCD Screen (equal to Inspire 4g's) with 1 GB of Ram + more ram + HTC sense 3.5....
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My Guess for Sensation 2 is... Super SLCD Screen (equal to Inspire 4g's)
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The Inspire has a much lower resolution of 800x480, as does the Desire HD. That display would be a downgrade from the Sensations screen. I really don't want another 800x480 display, part of the reason I didn't keep the Galaxy S2.
True. The battery cover can be flimsy. In that sense the untidy back cover its more solid. Plus the dual core beast and qhd slcd is better
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You guys are scaring me away from getting it. Yet I'm still getting it. still waiting otterbox to release defender but wonder how are they going to make it as the curved screen.
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ikhzter said:
True. The battery cover can be flimsy. In that sense the untidy back cover its more solid. Plus the dual core beast and qhd slcd is better
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Lol let me rephrase. The battery cover on the dhd can be flimsy
On the sensation it should be more solid.
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If you really not sure you can always wait and see if theres gonna be a GSM version of the EVO 3D
The problem with sensation is that it is based on the same proccessor
that Desire HD has, only that this time is DualCore paired with a better
GPU.
This means that the cpu sensation has is still an CortexA8 CPU and not
a CortexA9 like exynos2.
So in my opinion don't upgrate cause you will essentially buy an old
hardware just doubled up.
The DHD is still a wonderfull and fast device, i believe is better to wait
for HTC το release a new hardware revision.
It's the same situation that happened one year ago.
HTC released HTC Desire which was based on HTC HD 2 hardware
and some months later released Desire S and Desire HD with a far superior
hardware leaving Desire buyers in the cold.
Well i dissagre in some parts
I bought a new Sensation.. And there is a Big diffrence for me, and its Worth it
Sensation
Faster
Better battry (A bit early to say but but)
Screen have Much better colors
Smother screen
Sense 3,0 is Awsome
Only bad vs DHD is that it have a Smaller Screen! it says 4.3 for both but the DHD is larger! and i like the large Screen size, but not the fat bak side
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Well i dissagre in some parts
I bought a new Sensation.. And there is a Big diffrence for me, and its Worth it
Sensation
Faster
Better battry (A bit early to say but but)
Screen have Much better colors
Smother screen
Sense 3,0 is Awsome
Only bad vs DHD is that it have a Smaller Screen! it says 4.3 for both but the DHD is larger! and i like the large Screen size, but not the fat bak side
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DHD screen is not bigger (ok, someone proved it is by 1mm or smthng) bit WIDER in portrait mode. That's why sensation feels smaller and this is the only reason i got myself 4.3 phone. DHD, SGS2 and likes are just too wide for me.
So, I've had my Sensation for about 2 or 3 days now. I've been using the stock Sense 3.0 launcher and LauncherPro Plus. The way I see it, Sense
3.0 has not been optimized by HTC. It's slightly laggy and even the notification bar doesn't drop/scroll down smoothly. It is also laggy with live wallpapers.
LPP; obviously Sense is still running in the background. As this is unoptimized, it makes LPP laggy, especially the app drawer flying in and out. Also live wallpapers are still laggy and applying one makes changing homescreens laggy.
So. The entire Sense 3.0 interface/entire environment is not optimized, at all. Sense should be the snappiest it's ever been, on a dual core phone, but instead it's laggier than my friend's Incredible S and his dad's Desire HD, both on stock and not rooted.
All we can hope is Android Revolution HD by Mike86 will be optimized and much much faster.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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I agree with you. Lol you still keeping it. Also. Later paradise island for 15 minutes. Device heated up to 45.5 degrees!
Is that bad?
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It's always been the same with me: Stock ROMs never felt "optimized" for me, there's always been a slight sluggishness only custom ROMs could get rid of.
Sense is really great, from the looks and the widgets I prefer it over any other launchers, yet I switch to other launchers after some time, as Sense is either "old", or better, not that modern. Alternatives just offer a little bit more features and might feel a bit more responsive, especially if you kick most of the Sense stuff on a rooted device.
I'm keeping it purely because this phone has so much potential CyanogenMod is going to fly on this
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I completely agree. Got mine on Wednesday and was really surprised by how laggy it is. I understand sense is a hog but I thought for sure the dual-core should power through it. Switching to ADW Launcher helps a lot, but as OP said, with sense still in the background it only helps so much. I was also having issues with calls not ringing, mail not synching and touchscreen inaccuracy. Those seem to have disappeared since switching launchers.
I keep telling myself I'll return it tomorrow, but can't bring myself to do it. I love the device, hate the software. As previously mentioned, the device has so much potential that I'll probably hold on up till the last return date. If we have unlocked bootloader by then, I'll keep it. Otherwise, back it goes.
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I completely agree. Got mine on Wednesday and was really surprised by how laggy it is. I understand sense is a hog but I thought for sure the dual-core should power through it. Switching to ADW Launcher helps a lot, but as OP said, with sense still in the background it only helps so much. I was also having issues with calls not ringing, mail not synching and touchscreen inaccuracy. Those seem to have disappeared since switching launchers.
I keep telling myself I'll return it tomorrow, but can't bring myself to do it. I love the device, hate the software. As previously mentioned, the device has so much potential that I'll probably hold on up till the last return date. If we have unlocked bootloader by then, I'll keep it. Otherwise, back it goes.
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What if you return the device and the day after bootloader is unlocked. You would be gutted.
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He can still get this device again... It's not like it's out of his life forever when he gave his "first" unit back.
Just wait till this custom ROM ARHD is available it will pretty much be the "optimized" version we been waiting for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849
Anybody surprised Sense is not optimized has not been using HTC products for very long. Sense while pretty is full of bloat. Been the case even before Android, when they first made it for Windows Mobile as Touch Flo 3D.
It's the kind of thing you learn to live with if you stay stock.
This is another example of why I'm waiting till the Sensation is totally rooted and unlocked. If I want to nix Sense I'll be able to disable it totally from ever even starting up.
Typically, custom ROM hacks will improve Sense and make it run better. That will likely be the case with Sense 3.0.
This is all playing out like most other HTC devices.
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Anybody surprised Sense is not optimized has not been using HTC products for very long. Sense while pretty is full of bloat. Been the case even before Android, when they first made it for Windows Mobile as Touch Flo 3D.
It's the kind of thing you learn to live with if you stay stock.
This is another example of why I'm waiting till the Sensation is totally rooted and unlocked. If I want to nix Sense I'll be able to disable it totally from ever even starting up.
Typically, custom ROM hacks will improve Sense and make it run better. That will likely be the case with Sense 3.0.
This is all playing out like most other HTC devices.
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As I said, my friend's Incredible S feels more optimized than the Sensation. It just feels snappier and quicker.
redbullcat said:
As I said, my friend's Incredible S feels more optimized than the Sensation. It just feels snappier and quicker.
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Probably because Sense 3.0 has added even more visuals than 2.1 and the CPU has to push more pixels than the Incredible. I doubt 2.3 is even using half of the Sensation's CPU power.
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Probably because Sense 3.0 has added even more visuals than 2.1 and the CPU has to push more pixels than the Incredible. I doubt 2.3 is even using half of the Sensation's CPU power.
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But we have dual core on our Sensation's. Double the power.
As I said, I don't think Sense 3.0 OS using the power of both cores.
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Lol...
I have been telling ppl who purchased the Sensation for a long time that...
The Sensation @ 1.2 ghz will be slower then the Desire HD @ 1.2 ghz bcus Sensation has more pixels.
The Snap Dragon Processor in both phones are the phone except one is dual core the other isnt...
Nothing ATM on the Sensation (or the GS2) is taking advantage of the Dual Core (Except smart bench 2011).
So... ATM ppl who are purchasing the Sensation are purchasing a Desire HD with a Worse Screen... Worse Build Quality but Higher Resolution.
By the time a Release of Android comes out that takes advantage of both core HTC will have released a new Phone wich is HOPEFULLY more of an upgrade then the HTC sensations.
Frankly the HTC Sensation does not live up to its name.
Maedhros said:
So... ATM ppl who are purchasing the Sensation are purchasing a Desire HD with a Worse Screen... Worse Build Quality but Higher Resolution.
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Absolutely wrong.
You're a big, fat troll.
Firstly; the Sensation's processor is not the same as the dhd's but with two cores. THe dhd has Qualcomm 8255 @ 1ghz and the Sensation has Qualcomm 8260 @ 1.2ghz dual core. They must have changed something in the processor, as the Sensation can do dual core and the dhd can't. Also, running a dhd at 1.2ghz will drain it's battery faster due to the fact it's not meant to run at 1.2ghz. I agree, it's nice to have it at that speed, but HTC must have a reason for running it at 1ghz.
Secondly; the screen is no worse than the Desire HD's and possibly better. We have more pixels, a thinner device (the dhd was too wide imo), a curved/contoured screen to ensure it doesn't get scratched, and 16:9 so we can watch movies how they were supposed to be watched.
Thirdly; I still don't understand how the build quality is worse. The Sensation's build quality is excellent; not a creak or squeak to be found. The battery is hard to get off, but sufficeintly easy to get off should you need to reboot via removing the battery, or if you want to remove the SIM card or MicroSD.
Quote from the Engadget review of the dhd review here:
We were also disheartened by a couple of other issues, which are perhaps even more significant than the foregoing. Firstly, as mentioned above, the aluminum casing fails to perfectly align with all the other external elements of the phone it comes into contact with, which is most unpleasantly apparent at the front, where it frames the display. The trouble is that the aluminum sticks out about a millimeter in front of the screen, generating a ridge that your finger flicks against when performing swipes on the phone. What results both feels and sounds like flicking paper at the end of (almost) every screen-transitioning gesture. The problem is apparent on both sides of the display and it's also something we noted in our 7 Mozart review, so it doesn't seem as though we got a uniquely poor Desire HD unit, it's just a failure on HTC's part, whether at the design or manufacturing stage. The second big problem we have here is with the camera on the back, which sticks out from the rest of the body, but is not protected from bumps or scratches in any meaningful way. When laid on its back, the Desire HD rests directly on the lens itself, which anyone serious about photography would both cringe and curse at.
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These issues have been fixed on the Sensation. No 'paper flicking' sound, and if you say it protects the screen, I don't think it does, and anyway, the Sensation's screen is curved, which is much better.
The camera also does not jut out from the back of the Sensation, meaning it does not get scratched and the phone can lie flat.
Engadget also mention they believe the battery cover on the dhd is a 'nightmare to get off' and the battery is not protected when you do open the battery cover, meaning it 'slides right out'. THey also say the voume button is badly designed.
Right next to the battery slot is the volume button, and we call it a button because, unlike a rocker, it has almost no travel and it's amazingly hard to differentiate whether you're pressing the top, bottom, or the middle of it.
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I'd also like to add to this that the power button, from my own experience, is impossible to press with the hand you are holding the device with, and takes you a couple of tries to get it to press. This is caused by the fact it is inset into the device.
I admit, the Sensation does have issues, the deathgrip being the most prominent. But your beloved Desire HD has issues and flaws too.
So basically, if you're not planning to get or own a Sensation, please go away.
Link to Engadget review of the DHD here.
Trolololol
redbullcat said:
You're a big, fat troll.
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Nearly every single one of his posts is complaining how bad it is. It's pretty boring now.
Robboftw said:
Nearly every single one of his posts is complaining how bad it is. It's pretty boring now.
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Well Robbo he is right, Sensation is an upgrade from the DHD, your DHD may feel fast, but whack a stock rom on it and it is slow, i remember, i had my DHD overclocked to 1.5 and then i felt speed.
before customs roms my DHD was a battery Hogging power sucking beast tamed by Leedroid.
two independent cores on the Sensation. i hope to do the same with ARHD. hopefully having some smartass governers thrown in too.
sense 3 does look good, it may feel slow at the moment but devs will improve it. for sure
i still have my dhd. sensation and DHD side by side, the sensation feels much more crisper and clearer than the DHD.
i also suffered from a creaky battery cover, dodgy power button that was inset so hard to press, glad the sensation feels better,
DHD was too big to hold in one hand and operate, sensation i can do anything with one hand, thumbs up for that
ikhzter said:
Well Robbo he is right
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Don't you mean he's wrong?
I think he (Maedhros) is just looking (and partially inventing) for reasons not to upgrade his Desire HD. I don't know why.
Robboftw said:
Absolutely wrong.
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Ok... How so? Please respond atleast intelligently.
redbullcat said:
You're a big, fat troll.
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redbullcat said:
You're a big, fat troll.
Firstly; the Sensation's processor is not the same as the dhd's but with two cores. THe dhd has Qualcomm 8255 @ 1ghz and the Sensation has Qualcomm 8260 @ 1.2ghz dual core. They must have changed something in the processor, as the Sensation can do dual core and the dhd can't. Also, running a dhd at 1.2ghz will drain it's battery faster due to the fact it's not meant to run at 1.2ghz. I agree, it's nice to have it at that speed, but HTC must have a reason for running it at 1ghz.
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Sorry to break it to you. The Sensations Processor is the Desire HDs processor, just with 2 cores.
Absolutely no design change or size reduction. You argument that it will drain its battery faster is absolutley valid.
UC ur Sensation to 1ghz it will get better battery life. OC it to 1.8 ghz it will get worse.
What a stupid argument.
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Secondly; the screen is no worse than the Desire HD's and possibly better. We have more pixels, a thinner device (the dhd was too wide imo), a curved/contoured screen to ensure it doesn't get scratched, and 16:9 so we can watch movies how they were supposed to be watched.
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Ah... I apologize I mean it it worse then the INSPIRE 4G and the Desire S's Screen. When I comment on screen I dont mean Design... I mean how colour is displayed and how viewing angles etc are.
Again... Inspire and Desire S have a better SLCD screen then the Sensation.
redbullcat said:
I admit, the Sensation does have issues, the deathgrip being the most prominent. But your beloved Desire HD has issues and flaws too.
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Agreed... Sorry, it just seems from my exp that the Desire HD FEELS more... solid... in hand compared to sensation.
To each his own I guess.
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So basically, if you're not planning to get or own a Sensation, please go away.
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Hmm... That is a ridiculus argument. The Sensation was the Phone I was supposed to import and Purchase this year. Unfortunately there are WAY TOO MANY short commings that this phone suffers from.
Srsly... I have owned a MULTITUDE of HTC devices all the way from the WinMo Days. I have purchased a brandnew HTC device every year, if not twice a year. But even I can see that the Sensation does not live up to its name.
Srsly ppl... There is no reason to defend HTC like no tom. Neither is there any reason to be a HTC apologist.
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Trololololvv
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Srsly? I dont even get this when I post on the GS2 Forums.
Atleast ppl on the SGS2 Can RECOGNIZE the short commings in their devices. I have NEVER seen any group of ppl defend a device as religiously as HTC Sensation owners.... Sad TBH.
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Nearly every single one of his posts is complaining how bad it is. It's pretty boring now.
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If no one criest out at a phones faults... the faults will never be addressed. I WANT a new HTC Phone. HTCs build quality + ergonomics + HTC sense make them the #1 phone company IMO.
But the Sensation is just inadequate...
ikhzter said:
Well Robbo he is right, Sensation is an upgrade from the DHD, your DHD may feel fast, but whack a stock rom on it and it is slow, i remember, i had my DHD overclocked to 1.5 and then i felt speed.
before customs roms my DHD was a battery Hogging power sucking beast tamed by Leedroid.
two independent cores on the Sensation. i hope to do the same with ARHD. hopefully having some smartass governers thrown in too.
sense 3 does look good, it may feel slow at the moment but devs will improve it. for sure
i still have my dhd. sensation and DHD side by side, the sensation feels much more crisper and clearer than the DHD.
i also suffered from a creaky battery cover, dodgy power button that was inset so hard to press, glad the sensation feels better,
DHD was too big to hold in one hand and operate, sensation i can do anything with one hand, thumbs up for that
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Nice to hear some Direct Comparisons.
I guess I might give the Sensation another chance when it gets released with Bell this year...
Lets see how the SGS2 and Sensation Pans out.
Personally I feel as if purchasing a new Android is not too good of an Idea till Ice Cream...
Lets see what happens.
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Don't you mean he's wrong?
I think he (Maedhros) is just looking (and partially inventing) for reasons not to upgrade his Desire HD. I don't know why.
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Wrong... I simply want a WORTHY UPGRADE... I hate that HTC appears to be going into its WinMo pattern with Android and its making me cry inside *jokes*
Srsly tho... I honestly think HTC needs to stop its partnership with Qualcomm... Qualcomm is like the Generic brand that every1 and their mom gets because its cheap.
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Don't you mean he's wrong?
I think he (Maedhros) is just looking (and partially inventing) for reasons not to upgrade his Desire HD. I don't know why.
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Sorry let me rephrase,
Well Robbo, redbullat is right, why not downgrade your htc desire hd to HD2 lol instead of an upgrade, they seemed to be more stable than the sensation
Desire HD vs Sensation
resolution:
DHD, 400 x 840, WVGA, LCD
Sensation 960 x 540, qHD, Super LCD
Processor:
DHD = 1 Ghz Single core snap dragon = 1.0 GHz
Sensation = 1.2 Ghz Dual core snap dragon = 2.4 GHz
Battery:
DHD = 1230 mAh
Sensation = 1520 mAh
Graphics:
DHD = Adreno 205 GPU
Sensation = Adreno 220 GPU
Video:
DHD = 720p
Sensation = 1080p + TV out + Stereo sound recording
bluetooth:
DHD = v2.1
Sensation = v3.0
Dimensions:
DHD = 123 x 68 x 11.8 mm
Sensation = 126.1 x 65.4 x 11.3 mm, a little taller but thinner and slimmer
Weight:
DHD 164g
Sensation 148g
video call camera:
DHD: None
Sensation: VGA camera,
Talk time (3g):
DHD = upto 5 hours 30 minutes
Sensation = Upto 6 hours 40 minutes
Yeh your right the DHD is better and the Sensation is rubbish, shi*ter than the DHD. lol.
At the moment, I have a Desire Z with a year left on my contract
I was thinking I could sell my Desire Z for about £150 (being optimistic for argument's sake) and then getting a Sensation XE for £400 (after getting cashback) which means it would cost £250 but then after a year I could sell the XE for £200-250 as I'll be getting a new contract anyway (not staying with T-Mobile as they reduced the data cap to 500mb)
However, looking now I might just sell my DZ and get a normal Sensation for £300
A few questions though, will the £100 difference be worth it for an XE with the iBeats + Beats Audio? My music is all high quality (v0) and I probably listen to music on my phone for about 2 hours a day at least. If not, is the audio quality of the Sensation comparable to the DZ?
Also, am I right in thinking I should definitely see a speed increase going from 800MHz to 1.2/1.5GHz dual core? How big would the difference be between 1.2 and 1.5? Can you use an XE battery in the normal Sensation?
I'm not bothered about space increase, and RAM is the same so are iBeats + Beats Audio + 300MHz*2 worth £100?
Oh, and can you underclock the CPU when rooted to save battery?
One final thing! If I was to wait a month before I got it, would I save much money or will the price stay the same for a little while?
Keep in mind, this phone is to just last me a year.
LooieENG said:
At the moment, I have a Desire Z with a year left on my contract
I was thinking I could sell my Desire Z for about £150 (being optimistic for argument's sake) and then getting a Sensation XE for £400 (after getting cashback) which means it would cost £250 but then after a year I could sell the XE for £200-250 as I'll be getting a new contract anyway (not staying with T-Mobile as they reduced the data cap to 500mb)
However, looking now I might just sell my DZ and get a normal Sensation for £300
A few questions though, will the £100 difference be worth it for an XE with the iBeats + Beats Audio? My music is all high quality (v0) and I probably listen to music on my phone for about 2 hours a day at least. If not, is the audio quality of the Sensation comparable to the DZ?
Also, am I right in thinking I should definitely see a speed increase going from 800MHz to 1.2/1.5GHz dual core? How big would the difference be between 1.2 and 1.5? Can you use an XE battery in the normal Sensation?
I'm not bothered about space increase, and RAM is the same so are iBeats + Beats Audio + 300MHz*2 worth £100?
Oh, and can you underclock the CPU when rooted to save battery?
One final thing! If I was to wait a month before I got it, would I save much money or will the price stay the same for a little while?
Keep in mind, this phone is to just last me a year.
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If you are planning on rooting you might as well get a normal sensation and load a XE Rom and overclock it to 1.5 no use spending an extra $100 unless you really just want the headphones.
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Yes you can use an xe battery in sensation, and underclock the cpu.
Sent from my silky smooth Sensation 4G.
I've enjoyed my Sensation, but why not get something higher end at this stage of the year?
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If you are planning on rooting you might as well get a normal sensation and load a XE Rom and overclock it to 1.5 no use spending an extra $100 unless you really just want the headphones.
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Yes you can use an xe battery in sensation, and underclock the cpu.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'm more interested in the Beats Audio technology than the earphones (I understand it only works with iBeats)
If I underclocked it to say 800MHz it should save battery but still be faster than my 800MHz DZ as it's dual core, right? Do you have a Sensation or XE? Do you see any difference between 1.2 and 1.5GHz?
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I liked the idea of the SXE + Beats Audio, but then thought I might as well get the Sensation instead if there isn't much difference
I want something lighter than my DZ and I don't need the keyboard as I use Swype anyway. the larger 16:9 screen would be better for me watching videos on it as well
Really I might as well just get a more-modern-than-my-dz-but-older phone and wait a year as I'll be getting a new contract and can get something better than. What else would you recommend?
Has anybody else got the s and sxe to compare
honestly if your dz is doing everything you need, i would just hold off until a more recent phone comes out
sensation is a great upgrade if you dont want to pay that much money for a pretty up to date generation phone
however its got a lot of problems too, most of us get: powerbutton issues, dust under screen, battery life is only decent (you might want to get a bigger capacity battery like anker),
it is a fast phone, capable of pretty much anything, beautiful screen (qHD), very nice build quality (minus the power button, which is software/hardware problem), camera is not bad at all for a phone
to my knowledge beats audio is a software thing and it sounds amazing with a rom that has it on my regular sensation (non XE) using normal headphones, it probably sounds even better with the beats headphones, but i dont know for sure
there isnt a big difference between 1.2 and 1.5 ghz. both sensations have the same cpu, one is underclocked at 1.2 and the other is running normal speed at 1.5 due to bigger battery
overall i do like the phone, big upgrade from my htc hero, thats probably why
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honestly if your dz is doing everything you need, i would just hold off until a more recent phone comes out
sensation is a great upgrade if you dont want to pay that much money for a pretty up to date generation phone
however its got a lot of problems too, most of us get: powerbutton issues, dust under screen, battery life is only decent (you might want to get a bigger capacity battery like anker),
it is a fast phone, capable of pretty much anything, beautiful screen (qHD), very nice build quality (minus the power button, which is software/hardware problem), camera is not bad at all for a phone
to my knowledge beats audio is a software thing and it sounds amazing with a rom that has it on my regular sensation (non XE) using normal headphones, it probably sounds even better with the beats headphones, but i dont know for sure
there isnt a big difference between 1.2 and 1.5 ghz. both sensations have the same cpu, one is underclocked at 1.2 and the other is running normal speed at 1.5 due to bigger battery
overall i do like the phone, big upgrade from my htc hero, thats probably why
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Thanks for the reply. When you say dust under the screen how bad are we talking? Also is the power button issue that bad?
well for mine, theres a small cloud on the left and right side middle of screen. it doesnt affect the viewing of the screen at all, well not yet, lol, but it might get worse. its only visible under direct sunlight shining from the side.
not everyone gets the power button issue, but id say majority? its when you press on it to turn off the screen, it turns off and turns back on by itself, sometimes happens many times in a row. no problem with turning on the screen. only when turning it off. i stopped turning off the screen now, unless im trying to conserve battery
these are probably the biggest problems i have with the phone, otherwise its a great phone. but no phone is perfect...
Just ordered one
thanks everyone
Don't buy it. It is a total waste of money, to be honest
In the end Play emailed me saying I had to call up customer services to verify the payment (think it's because I used a different card)
After several attempts to call them and waiting on hold for half an hour I just gave up and cancelled my order.
Now I'm thinking about getting a SGSII
The only thing putting me off is no HTC Sense, and cheap build quality
Sensation is a great phone and Sense makes it even greater, but htc Edge is probably coming next year and that beast has a quad core. You might wanna wait for that. Quad core phones are coming!
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Sensation is a great phone and Sense makes it even greater, but htc Edge is probably coming next year and that beast has a quad core. You might wanna wait for that. Quad core phones are coming!
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Oh man, I didn't know about that. that actually looks incredible
I wonder how much it will be when it comes out though...I wouldn't like to spend £500+ on a handset pay as you go
Plus next December my contract will be have ended, so I will get a new one and get a new phone anyway.
If you want to play games, listenning to dance music => sensation is a very good choice but you can think about GS2
Thanks
Gonna go into a shop tomorrow and test them both to see which I like the feel of most (most likely the Sensation tho)
Edit: Just ordered an XE
Worked out at £265 over 2 years on contract
I've still got a year on my T-Mobile contract so I'll just give the SIM to someone else in my family
Congratulations...wise choice!
GS2 has SERIOUS audio quality issues. If you plan on listening to music on your phone stay miles away from it. All GS2 phones are affected by CPU and radio crosstalk.
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1053978.html
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Whoever on page one said most of us have dust issues and power button issues, please keep in mind, only a small amount of us have any of those issues.
The Sensation is a great device, and while it has some problems (don't all phones?), ICS and Sense 4.0 will make it incredible.
I just hope Sense 4.0 has the ICS color scheme. Blue, gray, white, and black would look sweet. That, and I think Sense should be dropped down to just the launcher + widgets. That would help differentiate HTC's devices from everyone elses, and it would be fast and lightweight.
went to have a look at the phones today, the SGSII feels cheap and seems huge compared to the XE (almost as big as the XL)
I'm sure I made the right choice now
Hi! I am about to get a new phone and I am not sure which one to get out of the two. I like the Sensation's design better however I like the GSII's screen more. I will be flashing a custom rom (no Sense or TW) on either device so flaws with Touchwiz and HTC Sense are not a concern for me. I also want the phone to run ICS smoothly.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
No sense? Go with gs2 then.
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First off, the Sensation XE is an overpriced, recoloured Sensation with a pair of Beats headphones, so be sure the check the price difference and ask yourself if a pair of Beats is worth it. There are plenty of headphones out there, better and cheaper.
If you look at hardware only the S2 is a little stronger, but the Sensation is really close by.the Qualcomm Snapdragon processor can work safely up to 1,5 ghz, only HTC underclocked it, so a custom kernel should do the trick.
If you are going with a custom rom, I doubt you would see the difference, what does meet the eye is the look of the Sensation. The sensation is more designed and has more body (making it heavier), the S2 is just plastic.
The Sensation has a qHD screen, it's not amoled but it comes really close, sharpness is better than it is on the S2 because the pixels are closer to eachother.
Don't be fooled by advertising.
I hope I helped.
Sensation . Galaxy batt sucks and The build quality is a joke.
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The prices are very similar to each other with the Sensation XE being slightly cheaper. Ragarding the Sensation, I would prefer the XE as I like the Beats earphones and the red accents on the phone much better
GSII has a monsterous dev community. You will have no shortage of new things to try. Id be willing to bet the GSII gets ICS first too.
Edit: and sorry if I step on toes, but beats sound quality is ****. I guess go for beats if you want to look cool and fit in. Other than that though, they suck.
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if it's cheaper, go with that.
if you are flashing roms I don't think it's going to matter that much in the user experience dept.
SGS2's hardware is really nice but so is the Senny's.
really going to comes down to your taste I guess.
better build quality, prettier design, and Qhd display vs. slightly stronger hardware(exynos version) but have to deal with the plastic and lower resolution screen.
both good phones though. can't go wrong with either.
good luck mate.
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Ragarding the Sensation, I would prefer the XE as I like the Beats earphones and the red accents on the phone much better
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If you like the colour, go for it. I really don't like it. With all the blue backgrounds of CM, I think it would just look weird.
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GSII has a monsterous dev community. You will have no shortage of new things to try. Id be willing to bet the GSII gets ICS first too.
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I think you're right on that part. Though I think the casing of the Sensation (XE) is stronger.
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and sorry if I step on toes, but beats sound quality is ****. I guess go for beats if you want to look cool and fit in. Other than that though, they suck.
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You're right about that, too. Beats is overpriced, there are cheaper and better solutions on the market. I believe that Sennheisser has a pair in-ear headphones that offer better quality for half the price.
Thanks So regarding performance, with custom roms the phones are quite similar right? And regarding battery life, which one is best?
I think the S2, I am not sure, neither of my friends nor me own a S2 so I can't compare. but the Sensation is known for it's shorter battery.
from what I've been reading the S2's battery life isn't too good. I don't own one so can't say for sure.
Senny?
get a Anker... or the Evo 3D battery if the stock doesn't do it for you.
1900 and 1730 mah respectively, though I think the Evo 3D batt's rating is more accurate.
anyway, Anker is around $10-15.
pretty much solve the battery issue, though my stock 1520mah battery wasn't too bad.
I'm using the Evo 3D batt and I've been pretty happy with it's performance.
Ok thanks My friend has a GSII so I'll try it a bit.... I like the HTC's looks better so I might go for it. Thanks for the help
I find it funny whenever people mention the sensation has higher resolution and fail to mention just how much inferior it actually is to SAMOLED+ in pretty much everything else. The sensation isnt even the best LCD, bad viewing angles, average contrast and very reflective. It's a terrible display for such an expensive phone.
S2 also has a much better camera and more internal memory. And sensation might be better built but S2 is slimmer and lighter.
I think s II,
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I find it funny whenever people mention the sensation has higher resolution and fail to mention just how much inferior it actually is to SAMOLED+ in pretty much everything else. The sensation isnt even the best LCD, bad viewing angles, average contrast and very reflective. It's a terrible display for such an expensive phone.
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it's more of a personal taste thing isn't it? not sure how you could say it's inferior to the SGS2's lower resolution screen.
I find SAMOLED's color to be too exaggerated.
viewing angle has been fine on mine.
I've been pretty happy with the Senny's screen. text is so clear.
Amoled screens are green-ish, I rather have less viewing angles than a green glow.
I am very clumbsy, so I would go for the bigger casing and heavier Sensation XE than I would for the light and fragile S2.
But that's just me.
Amoled on the original Galaxy S is greenish. The Super Amoled + on the galaxy s2 has no such problems (color saturation can be tweaked in the settings). Battery life under moderate useage can go from 16-24 hours for a average user, more for a light user, and anywhere from 10-14 (around there) for a power user.
Light doesn't mean fragile btw... you should see the drop test comparison between the 4s and the S2 if you really want to know what is "fragile".
As mentioned the color saturation can be controlled with the SGS2 and there is no green tint.
The problem with the sensation is that it is not even the best LCD, far from it. While contrast will always be average on LCD, the viewing angles and sunlight performance are very good with samsung and apple LCD's. The samsung wave 2 and iphone 4 are the finest examples of LCD tech I have seen. The new LG IPS HD display in the nitro is most certainly the new LCD king from what I have read about it but haven't used it yet. HTC just cheaps out on the most important part of a smartphone
Dont get me wrong it's by no means a bad display and you could very well be completely satisfied with it but I really felt like saying all this after reading the comments of S2 having lower resolution while completely ignoring many of it's strengths.
It is safe to assume that you have your own reason to choose between the SGSII or the Sensation XE
[offtopic]If it isn't for the budget, I suggest you to choose neither, and go with a Galaxy Nexus (at least if you want to go with a SGS II) and wait a couple more days for CES, and check what will be annouced there.[/offtopic]
Now back to the choice between both phones
With either you can't go wrong and it is more a matter of taste than anything else
but for me these are the point:
Sensation XL........................................................SGSII
-Built quality and industrial design......................-Lightness and tickness
-qHD and SLCD screen (realistic colors)..............-SAMOLED+ (Vivid colors)
-Sense.................................................................-Touchwiz
-Free Beats audio headsets................................-More internal storage (although the Sensation is supplied with a high capacity SD card unlike the SGSII)
that for the objectif part of the choice, but from my point of view I'd go with the HTC phone over a Sammy as long as Samsung keeps building a phone with cheap plastics, because I don't feel it is serious when you are buying a premium product and high end superphone with cheap plastic, it is like buying a Mercedes S-Class with VW lupo interior, doesn't feel right at all
the looks of Sesation is better but the Hardware is a little weak than Gs2
My G2 broke so I'm getting a Sensation as a replacement from Tmobile.
How do you like this phone? I wanted to get your overall opinion on it.
Great phone, fast, sharp screen, nice feel in the hand and it has ICS but probably worth waiting for the One series now IMO.
i love mine, Great support and good choice of ROMs and mods.
The phone feels tough, well built, unlike other phones with cheap plastic parts.
The screen is great, I prefer the qHD screen it looks more natural, Amoled is nice and brighter but that doesnt mean its better.
Its powerful has nice features, Camera is superb.
Like people say- there will be better more powerful phones out soon, But as soon as they are released something even more better and even more powerful(er?) will be out.
its up to you to wait or not, but if you dont you wont regret it
Sensation is still one of the top phones to have. Besides all the rooting and mods you can do to this phone its screen reso and dual cores are superb. I got a Samsung Sll still in the box brand new three weeks ago and haven't even touched it. I know kinda stupid but I'm hooked on what I can keep doing with this phone. One big plus also is the gorilla glass screen. I've demonstrated trying to scratch the screen with a coin a lighter keys etc and its hasn't scratched yet. So try it out man if ya don't like it..these phones are still valued about 400 dollars and that will sell itself. Good luck mate
" The Official Rom Zombie "
sent from the back of the Ice Cream Truck using a killer Sensation
Thanks for the comments so far. Sounds like a solid phone.
I should clarify that I'm getting this through insurance replacement so thankfully I will be able to upgrade in about 5 months or so if the sensation doesn't work out.
Then it's worth getting it.
Great phone ! The best I've ever had
Best phone ever had Just a little battery drain but I allways carry a little 2000mAh batter with me to give my sensation a full load in less than an hour. With that, I can spend 24 hours of intense use without a problem
PD: Btw, I alse have an SII in it's box behind me xD I just love Sensation's ROM's and Tweaks... and just hate TouchWiz (also I have not warranty on my Sensation and yes on my SII so... won't touch it xD)
if you like rooting then its better than the amaze...
its a good solid built phone, although the speaker could be a bit louder
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It's better than sex...well almost!
I moved to Sensation XE from iphone 4g and never looked back.
I just upgraded mine to ICS 4.0.3 (OTA) and HTC Sense 3.6.
There is no streaming or file manaing that sensation xe cant handle.
Powerful dualcore, awesome crispy graphics, insane internet browsing .. It's like using a laptop/pc when using this device. The Dre beats in-ear headphones are pretty awesome as well. Simply superb.
The only downsides of the phone are the battery (even though it's much better than the first Sensation), which lasts about 10-14 hours with my heavy usage and the RAM consuming Htc Sense.
But this can be tweaked/fixed with a root.
Sensation xe is great with all its features and capabilities.
Over the past 4 years I've had iphone 3gs, 4g, Samsung galaxy s2, HTC desire, incredible s, Sensation and now..... Sesation XE. And I have to admit that this beast is better than all of the above mentioned great smartphones.
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I moved to Sensation XE from iphone 4g and never looked back.
I just upgraded mine to ICS 4.0.3 (OTA) and HTC Sense 3.6.
There is no streaming or file manaing that sensation xe cant handle.
Powerful dualcore, awesome crispy graphics, insane internet browsing .. It's like using a laptop/pc when using this device. The Dre beats in-ear headphones are pretty awesome as well. Simply superb.
The only downsides of the phone are the battery (even though it's much better than the first Sensation), which lasts about 10-14 hours with my heavy usage and the RAM consuming Htc Sense.
But this can be tweaked/fixed with a root.
Sensation xe is great with all its features and capabilities.
Over the past 4 years I've had iphone 3gs, 4g, Samsung galaxy s2, HTC desire, incredible s, Sensation and now..... Sesation XE. And I have to admit that this beast is better than all of the above mentioned great smartphones.
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Just asking by but... why did u change from Sensation to Sensation XE? Hardware is the same, only changes appearance of the case and buttons :S
Suposing you are rooted and install a custom XE version on your Sensation I mean...
Btw... If I could I'd change to XE just for those shiny red capacitive buttons
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Just asking by but... why did u change from Sensation to Sensation XE? Hardware is the same, only changes appearance of the case and buttons :S
Suposing you are rooted and install a custom XE version on your Sensation I mean...
Btw... If I could I'd change to XE just for those shiny red capacitive buttons
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Well yeah, you're absolutely right about the similarity of the 2 Sensations. The only difference is the XE has an 'overclocked' cpu (300 megahertz more), Dr. Dre beats and the shiny lights and logos on the phone's case. And of course the battery's mah.
Why I changed to XE?
Main reasons: the battery in the old Sensation was horrible.. annoying.. dust under the screen.
Also I was lucky to sell the old Sensation and buy the XE for a very reasonable price.
Secondary reasons newer phone, better looking, the headphones.
You gotta get out more! But yes I personally love my Sensation!
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