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[Q] Desire HD vs Sensation? worth uppgrading?

Im a DHD owner and are unsure if ishould uppdate.
Have major problems with My dhd
Bad with MY dhd
Bad call reception
BLUETOOTH CALL PROBLEMS
pure battery
Pure wifi reception
We own4 dhd in the family and mine is theonly one with problems. Tierd of leaving it for ser vice after 3 times, everytime 2-3 weaks!
So sensation owners what do u think?
Edit.excuse my speeling. Writing on a transformer pad screen.

I am desire Hd owner and I will be upgrading to the sensation once it gets unlocked.
As long as you can get a fair price for your desire HD, i say upgrade it

I just traded my Desire HD and Dell Streak for the Sensation I hated the power button my Desire HD. Not sure if it was just mine (I did have the digitizer replaced) or it was like that by design, but the power button on the Sensation is loads better
I say do it. The Sensation is the successor to the Desire HD. So many things that are better about it!

I hate that power button also

I always found my DHD to be a bit creaky in the hand, especially the sim cover. The Sensation does feel solid, quality.
I listen to music a lot over bluetooth, I like the fact that the quality is so much better than DHD, with SRS/equaliser also available over A2DP.
Camera also seems much sharper.
Battery not sure about yet, looks encouraging though.

Yes
Sell your DHD. The Sensation is a magnificent peace of hardware a lot better , faster , thinner .Battery life is a big improvement after a week I would say between 50 and 75% percent impovement.
Is there is a trowback it's the sense 3.0 a lot of eyecatching nonsense ; not so usefull but still memory eating. The Unlock screen at the other hand is very well done.
So yes .

I'm on my second Sensation... First developed a screen response issue, followed quickly by random resets... The replacement is fantastic, just as the first was supposed to be.
I highly rate this phone, everything from the screen to the battery (I managed 11h 30m from a 80% charge, and still had 30% left. Not mad usage, few calls, sms, games).
I wasn't so happy with the build quality on the DHD. Power button and volume buttons seemed to be mis-aligned, and the sim and memory card cover was ill-fitting...
The new design cover may be harder to get off, but it's miles better...

I would say, the Sensation is a great bit of hardware. But Sense 3.0 is a total donkey, whizzing out of control for no reason, convoluted contacts system.
Just a total pain in the arse, I upgraded from a standard Desire. I wanted to be able to test games I'm developing on qHD. I never felt like I needed an upgrade really. Strangely, what I missed most is the track-pad, and the comparatively snappy response of Sense 2.0.
Hope this help
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My 2 cents...
NO dont upgrade.
I have had no issues with my Desire HD running Sense 3.0 and OC to 1.8ghz, so...
The Sensation is Hardware wise Desire HD x 2.
Sure its an upgrade... but an upgrade that is worth it compared to other competition. I'd say no.
The Screen is crappier then the 1 on my inspire (SLCD vs SLCD) and hardware is basicly identical other then dual core + gpu.
Also Sensation has worse Build quality then desire hd.

3kgt said:
Im a DHD owner and are unsure if ishould uppdate.
Have major problems with My dhd
Bad with MY dhd
Bad call reception
BLUETOOTH CALL PROBLEMS
pure battery
Pure wifi reception
We own4 dhd in the family and mine is theonly one with problems. Tierd of leaving it for ser vice after 3 times, everytime 2-3 weaks!
So sensation owners what do u think?
Edit.excuse my speeling. Writing on a transformer pad screen.
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I think i'm going to sell my brand new Sensation on the bay. Is has no major value and also has no big changes. I though it was faster than my DHD with Android Revolution, but it was not. Yes it has a great battery life, but not a very big changes with my old DHD. It has a very good resolution but it's not what I was looking for. My DHD is not crappy, nothing to say. If you scroll the menu fast I see some freeze. Yeah, I'm wondering the reason why I bought it. Beeing a dual core is not so faster than, oh yes, than the iPhone.
When I changed my Desire for the Desire HD I noticed an incredible change... not now.
I suggest you you wait something different...Sorry.

Maedhros said:
My 2 cents...
NO dont upgrade.
I have had no issues with my Desire HD running Sense 3.0 and OC to 1.8ghz, so...
The Sensation is Hardware wise Desire HD x 2.
Sure its an upgrade... but an upgrade that is worth it compared to other competition. I'd say no.
The Screen is crappier then the 1 on my inspire (SLCD vs SLCD) and hardware is basicly identical other then dual core + gpu.
Also Sensation has worse Build quality then desire hd.
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How is the build quality worse? I've found it so much better. My Desire HD's battery cover used to creak all the time, and there was a significant gap between the battery cover and the aluminium back.

redbullcat said:
How is the build quality worse? I've found it so much better. My Desire HD's battery cover used to creak all the time, and there was a significant gap between the battery cover and the aluminium back.
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I have an Inspire 4 so..
No Creaking on my hardware. Nor any gap. I'd recemend calling HTC to send out free replacements.
When I say better build Quality I mean the Desire HD is ONE piece, whilst the Sensation is not. And from Initial reports Sensation has Reception + screen issues.
Why would I upgrade to a phone which has a screeen which is Inferior to my current?
HTC REALLY needs to step up...
My Guess for Sensation 2 is... Super SLCD Screen (equal to Inspire 4g's) with 1 GB of Ram + more ram + HTC sense 3.5....

Maedhros said:
My Guess for Sensation 2 is... Super SLCD Screen (equal to Inspire 4g's)
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The Inspire has a much lower resolution of 800x480, as does the Desire HD. That display would be a downgrade from the Sensations screen. I really don't want another 800x480 display, part of the reason I didn't keep the Galaxy S2.

True. The battery cover can be flimsy. In that sense the untidy back cover its more solid. Plus the dual core beast and qhd slcd is better
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

You guys are scaring me away from getting it. Yet I'm still getting it. still waiting otterbox to release defender but wonder how are they going to make it as the curved screen.
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ikhzter said:
True. The battery cover can be flimsy. In that sense the untidy back cover its more solid. Plus the dual core beast and qhd slcd is better
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Lol let me rephrase. The battery cover on the dhd can be flimsy
On the sensation it should be more solid.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

If you really not sure you can always wait and see if theres gonna be a GSM version of the EVO 3D

The problem with sensation is that it is based on the same proccessor
that Desire HD has, only that this time is DualCore paired with a better
GPU.
This means that the cpu sensation has is still an CortexA8 CPU and not
a CortexA9 like exynos2.
So in my opinion don't upgrate cause you will essentially buy an old
hardware just doubled up.
The DHD is still a wonderfull and fast device, i believe is better to wait
for HTC το release a new hardware revision.
It's the same situation that happened one year ago.
HTC released HTC Desire which was based on HTC HD 2 hardware
and some months later released Desire S and Desire HD with a far superior
hardware leaving Desire buyers in the cold.

Well i dissagre in some parts
I bought a new Sensation.. And there is a Big diffrence for me, and its Worth it
Sensation
Faster
Better battry (A bit early to say but but)
Screen have Much better colors
Smother screen
Sense 3,0 is Awsome
Only bad vs DHD is that it have a Smaller Screen! it says 4.3 for both but the DHD is larger! and i like the large Screen size, but not the fat bak side

3kgt said:
Well i dissagre in some parts
I bought a new Sensation.. And there is a Big diffrence for me, and its Worth it
Sensation
Faster
Better battry (A bit early to say but but)
Screen have Much better colors
Smother screen
Sense 3,0 is Awsome
Only bad vs DHD is that it have a Smaller Screen! it says 4.3 for both but the DHD is larger! and i like the large Screen size, but not the fat bak side
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DHD screen is not bigger (ok, someone proved it is by 1mm or smthng) bit WIDER in portrait mode. That's why sensation feels smaller and this is the only reason i got myself 4.3 phone. DHD, SGS2 and likes are just too wide for me.

[Q] Sense 3.0 lag,unresponsive touchsreen,lousy battery life... Evo3D better choice?

Hi mates, I've been reading up on comments, reviews and opinions on the Evo 3d and Sensation for the past few weeks and am already getting headaches from it. Now I'm at the brink of buying one of these (preferably this week as my iphone makes me sick more and more).
Your opinion is very important to me as I'm about to extend my contract for 2 years!
I don't need the 3d, but I'm having the feeling that the Evo3d is the overall better device. However, the bulky design and the inferior camera make it hard not to go for the Sensation (especially since I don't give a damn about 3d).
What I need to know from you guys are the follwoing things:
1. The Sensation's been known to have a slight lag in Sense and overall slower performance compared to the evo 3d. It was said many times this could be due to software issues. Has the performance since been improved in a way that it's on par with the Evo? Are the European units any better/different than the American ones?
2. I live in Europe. Are chances high I will get a faulty unit with a bad touchscreen? It seems to be a hardware issue so I guess there will be no software fix and sending the unit in 5 times with weeks of waiting in between is a dealbreaker for me.
3. I have read many reviews saying the Sensations battery life is superior to that of the Evo 3d and I have read just as many reviews that claim the opposite.
I do the occasional surfing while in train/bus, maybe 1-2h of music listening, checking emails several times a day and use google maps+GPS from time to time. No 3d use, movie watching or hours of gaming intended. Which one will serve me better?
The Sensation is slicker and doesn't have the ugly and unhandy camera-bumps like the Evo, but I'm very allergic to lag so if the Sensation is just underpowered compared to the Evo, i'll go with the snappier of the two.
Thank you!

As far as I know, the EVO 3D is pretty much identical hardware to the Sensation. And it also runs Sense 3.0. Check here for a comparision: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3901&idPhone2=3875
With a custom Sense ROM, it is much more smooth.
Really don't see why the EVO 3D performance would be THAT much better then the Sensation...
The touchscreen isn't a problem. The only issues seem to be on the lockscreen, so it's software.

I don't see the reason either (apart from 1gb ram over 768mb) but apparently the Evo runs soomther plus i hear the sensation starts to show lag over time...
anyways, evry review says evo is snappier... i just wonder whether thi sis soething that can be fixed by updates or if it is due to bad hardware

My experience is limited to the Sensation only, but:
1. Yes. Annoyingly so. Stock performance on the Telstra model isn't very good. I've used three units and all have been identical. Once you S-OFF, install a custom ROM and a custom kernel, the problem is lessened somewhat. Sense 3.0 seems to underpin all the problems with this device.
2. Completely random. Out of the dozen or so people I know who own Telstra units, I am the only one with a 'good' Sharp panel. There's not a lot of difference in the picture quality of both screens, but there is a definite difference in the ghosting while scrolling. Mine's better, but it's still there. Looks to me like a refresh rate issue, but I'm not sure. Apparently the digitiser can 'de-sensitise' over time, I've had mine a fortnight and no issues as of yet.
3. I find the Sensation's battery life admirable. After a moderate day's use I get home with 80-60% remaining. I don't OC, I use WiFi all day at home and HSPA when I'm out, make a few calls, send maybe 80 texts, download a few apps and listen to music for an hour or so. Even after a solid hour of continuous Market browsing, I'd reportedly lost <10%.
Good luck in your choice!

Those side-effects are all results of Sense. Just install CyanogenMod or any other AOSP ROM (when they're released) for a much, much better experience.
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Those side-effects are all results of Sense. Just install CyanogenMod or any other AOSP ROM (when they're released) for a much, much better experience.
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Absolutely.
I've never been a fan of CyanogenMod, but I will say that I am very much looking forward to it becoming available for the Sensation. The Alpha AOSP ROM looks promising also!

Thank you very much juzz86 and the others. Your post was very helpful. The thing is, I WANT Sense 3.0. If it was for the hardware alone, I'd go with the SGSII, although it's butt-ugly and feels like a child's toy in your hand. The Sensation's hardware is not so sensational when you compare it to other flagship phones. It's Sense that is making me want a HTC phone, but if the darn device can't handle it, despite dual core fanfare, I don't want it.
I'm so disappointed in this device It should have been everything the SGSII is, but with better design and Sense on top.
Anyways, the Evo seems to deal just fine with Sense 3.0 (at least that's what I read). I think I will give it a shot then, but not before I actually had the device in my hands. I'm a Pperson that is rather careless with it's phone. My iphone survived just fine because of a rubber case that saved it many times. But The Evo has ONE big glass plate in front of the two cam lenses... one unfortunate drop and goodbye picture taking.
I will have to think about that and see how the device actually feels...

Vipeout said:
Thank you very much juzz86 and the others. Your post was very helpful. The thing is, I WANT Sense 3.0. If it was for the hardware alone, I'd go with the SGSII, although it's butt-ugly and feels like a child's toy in your hand. The Sensation's hardware is not so sensational when you compare it to other flagship phones. It's Sense that is making me want a HTC phone, but if the darn device can't handle it, despite dual core fanfare, I don't want it.
I'm so disappointed in this device It should have been everything the SGSII is, but with better design and Sense on top.
Anyways, the Evo seems to deal just fine with Sense 3.0 (at least that's what I read). I think I will give it a shot then, but not before I actually had the device in my hands. I'm a Pperson that is rather careless with it's phone. My iphone survived just fine because of a rubber case that saved it many times. But The Evo has ONE big glass plate in front of the two cam lenses... one unfortunate drop and goodbye picture taking.
I will have to think about that and see how the device actually feels...
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Sounds like a plan. Don't drop the coin on it unless you're happy (only stupid people do that... ).
A recommendation: If you love Sense, and daily performance is more important to you than what looks good on paper, the Incredible S is an extremely good choice. It's 'just' a single-core, and it runs an older Sense, but it absolutely runs rings around the Sensation. The only real difference between the Sense version is the lockscreen, which is the only 'plus' I've come across in Sense 3.0

Thx for the advice, but I think it's rather stupid to buy a single core mobile in the age of dualcore processors and quadcore soon to be unleashed onto the world. I don't care if my Lambo is slower compared to a F1 Ferrari, but that don't mean I 'd go with a Fiat too
One more question regarding the lag/slowness of the phone: Is it sluggish out of the box or does it's performance degrade over time? How bad is it?
I often hear people complain about ceratin bugs, but only few seem to feel bothered by the performance...

Vipeout said:
Thx for the advice, but I think it's rather stupid to buy a single core mobile in the age of dualcore processors and quadcore soon to be unleashed onto the world. I don't care if my Lambo is slower compared to a F1 Ferrari, but that don't mean I 'd go with a Fiat too
One more question regarding the lag/slowness of the phone: Is it sluggish out of the box or does it's performance degrade over time? How bad is it?
I often hear people complain about ceratin bugs, but only few seem to feel bothered by the performance...
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For me it was slow out of the box. But I just flashed InsertCoin and it's very smooth compared to stock. CM7 will be even smoother
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

I don't know whether I should be happy or afraid because of that :O
Will CM7 still have Sense 3.0 or is it something completly different? I'm new to andorid, sry have no clue about it... Just saw that InsertCoin still has it.
I just read that the European Version of the Evo 3d isn't h4ackable as of now Different bootloader version or sumthin...
Yeah great, now I'm reconsidering the Sensation with a custom ROM. Geez this is getting old now...

Vipeout said:
I don't know whether I should be happy or afraid because of that :O
Will CM7 still have Sense 3.0 or is it something completly different? I'm new to andorid, sry have no clue about it... Just saw that InsertCoin still has it.
I just read that the European Version of the Evo 3d isn't h4ackable as of now Different bootloader version or sumthin...
Yeah great, now I'm reconsidering the Sensation with a custom ROM. Geez this is getting old now...
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CM7 will not have Sense at all. Most of the current crop of ROMs available still have Sense - even those that offer a 'sense-less' option still have the underlying frameworks included.
For me it was untolerable out of the box. I'm very susceptible to lag though.
I stick by my recommendation of a good single-core over a dual-core at this point. If it's fluid and quick in everyday operation, do you really need anything else? It's all just hype at this point, and the real-life benefits of dual cores aren't here yet.
I've ditched my Sensation for a Sharp SH-12C and it stomps all over it with just a single core and it does (pretty cool) 3D to boot. Pretty hard to come by, but so far a very polished package, and I'm getting much more enjoyment from it than from the Sensation.

I'm a big fan of stock android. I love cm can't wait for it to become available. That would definitely speed up things. Not sure I care about sense.
On another note I completely abuse my phone as far a use goes. WiFi on all day now Bluetooth too. I get 5.5hrs on a full charge. But again I completely abuse my phone. I listen to music all damn day I have a car charger so I'm happy and love my phone.
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I was sick of waiting and got the sensation yesterday. Haven't had too much time to spend with it but so far things are looking good, and it's fast, I see no lag. Only thing that's bothering me is te free memory, which is somewhere around 100mb usually. that's kinda lame. Why on earth did HTC not include simply 1gig?
No I wonder which rom to install. I figure crystal pyramid isn't too bad?

Vipeout said:
I was sick of waiting and got the sensation yesterday. Haven't had too much time to spend with it but so far things are looking good, and it's fast, I see no lag. Only thing that's bothering me is te free memory, which is somewhere around 100mb usually. that's kinda lame. Why on earth did HTC not include simply 1gig?
No I wonder which rom to install. I figure crystal pyramid isn't too bad?
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Task Manager is showing the wrong amount of RAM, go to Settings-Applications-Running Services and check there. I agree it should have been 1 GB though
For a ROM I recommend InsertCoin 2.3.4 because it's very fast However, maybe you will like another one better, so try them out and use the one you like best.
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

Vipeout said:
I was sick of waiting and got the sensation yesterday. Haven't had too much time to spend with it but so far things are looking good, and it's fast, I see no lag. Only thing that's bothering me is te free memory, which is somewhere around 100mb usually. that's kinda lame. Why on earth did HTC not include simply 1gig?
No I wonder which rom to install. I figure crystal pyramid isn't too bad?
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Glad to hear you got a good one mate, nice job. I was also a bit skeptical of the reported RAM under the task switcher, seemed very low. As stated above, it appears to be a bit off. Uninstalling Sense actually freed up about 80MB for me, so hopefully something like AOSP will free up even more and make it really sing.
Crystal Pyramid is very nice. You won't be disappointed with any of the custom Sense ROMs at all, they're all nice and slick.
Enjoy!

I also have problems with the fact that the phone is so slow,and i was expecting much much more from it,i couldn't wait to finally get my hand on a Sensation .I have the stock rom with no modifications,but my Desire HD was also stock and it worked perfect,with no lag.I was playing Angry Birds Rio yesterday and the phone had lots of lags(like a video with low frame rate),and there wasn't any running program in the background .The Desire HD never had this problem,even if there were programs running in the background,the phone worked flawlessly.I am starting to regret that i sold the desire hd and bought the Sensation.

HTC Sensation OR HTC Incredible S

HTC Sensation OR HTC Incredible S
Which phone should I buy ? and why ?
Or any other recommendations(SE Xperia Arc OR HTC Desire HD).
Help me out. I'm new here
Thanks

awesomexda said:
HTC Sensation OR HTC Incredible S
Which phone should I buy ? and why ?
Or any other recommendations(SE Xperia Arc OR HTC Desire HD).
Help me out. I'm new here
Thanks
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Already been a few threads on this exact topic mate, here's one of them for you to check out. I enjoyed the Incredible S a lot more.

But they have not given a perfect explanation which one is good. It does not matter which one HTC Sensation OR HTC Incredible S Or something similar.
I just want reasons which one to buy
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awesomexda said:
But they have not given a perfect explanation which one is good. It does not matter which one HTC Sensation OR HTC Incredible S Or something similar.
I just want reasons which one to buy
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Damn, I thought my post in there was pretty good
I'd choose the Incredible S over the Sensation, personally. The everyday performance of the Incredible trumps the Sensation. I was very impressed with the Incredible. One of my most regretful sales, actually
Different strokes for different folks, of course. There are many who feel exactly the opposite. My best advice is to get some 'hands-on' time with the devices before you buy if possible. Only you can tell which one will be best for you

But Sensation has sense 3.0 and dual core processor. And It's newer. I dont understand How do you prefer Incredible S over Sensation :O
What about SE Xperia Arc OR HTC Desire HD ?

awesomexda said:
But Sensation has sense 3.0 and dual core processor. And It's newer. I dont understand How do you prefer Incredible S over Sensation :O
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I understand that. I'll try and explain my perspective for you
I buy a lot of phones. Average one new phone a fortnight. I change them more frequently than socks.
For me, the most important feature of a phone is how it feels and operates on a day-to-day basis. I don't care about 'cores'. I don't care about Quadrant, Linpack, or any of that nonsense. I care about responsiveness, about the user experience. I don't care if it's got twelve cores at 5GHz, if it stutters and lags opening the Launcher, it's a no-go for me.
Case in point: Sensation. On paper, it's a beautiful phone. Out of the box, it was disappointingly laggy and stuttered a lot. I had to S-OFF and install custom software just to make it usable. Out of the box, the Incredible S smoked it, despite not looking as flash on paper. It was a far better optimised package all-round, it ran well, had a beautiful screen and showed very minimal lag. The Sensation didn't, although the screen is fantastic. This is largely due to Sense, but it still marred an otherwise stellar product for me.
I loved the performance of the Galaxy S2. It is an amazing piece of hardware. What lets it down for me is the cheap, glossy plastic body. It's just horrible.
As I said before though, different strokes for different folks. Everyone wants something different. If you want something bragworthy and new, that looks great on paper, you're forced to keep up with the cutting edge. All I ask for out of any device is flawless day-to-day usage.
Just so you know, I'm using a Sharp phone currently that only has a single core. It still smokes the Sensation, even after all the customisation I did to the Sensation to get it right.
There are lots of people who will disagree with my view. My take-home point, is that you will get a ton of opinions on here, but if you stick with what looks good on paper, rather than what feels good in use, you are sometimes very disappointed

Thanks for the advice. I would like to hear from other people too
By the way do you have any idea about Desire HD OR SE Experia Arc ? I think you are the guy to take an advice from since you use a lot phone as you mentioned above.
Thanks

awesomexda said:
Thanks for the advice. I would like to hear from other people too
By the way do you have any idea about Desire HD OR SE Experia Arc ? I think you are the guy to take an advice from since you use a lot phone as you mentioned above.
Thanks
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Wise words. Everyone likes something different, and getting a lot of opinions will help you balance the pros and cons properly. Just remember, I and anyone else who give you advice aren't going to be using it; you are
The Arc was a lovely phone, but the design put me off a lot. I'm really not into fashion phones, and found it quite feminine. It's very thin, curvy and light. The screen is amazing, and the stock firmware mine had (Rogers) was quite zippy. It was very responsive, I just couldn't live with the design.
As for the Desire HD, it was a favourite for quite a while. Big screen, nice and snappy (I had the Telus version - not the AT&T 'Inspire') - although not as snappy as the Incredible S. I wasn't a fan of the battery flap (broke it twice trying to get it off - very difficult) and the battery life was pretty average.
If I had to pick one for daily use it'd be the Arc, if you can live with the design. If you can't, the Desire HD is still a winner. I think if I'd had the silver Arc I may have liked it more. I have another one on the way, plus a silver housing I'm going to put on it.

I'm sorry if I keep disturbing you with the same topic. Im really confused since Its a lot of money to spend to
Whats the real deal between HTC Desire HD and HTC Incredible S ? Which one is better and Why ? Your word I'm gonna buy it
Thanks

awesomexda said:
I'm sorry if I keep disturbing you with the same topic. Im really confused since Its a lot of money to spend to
Whats the real deal between HTC Desire HD and HTC Incredible S ? Which one is better and Why ? Your word I'm gonna buy it
Thanks
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Not at all mate, that's why I'm here
In internal hardware, they are all but identical. The Desire HD uses a 4.3-inch LCD screen, the Incredible S uses a 4-inch S-LCD screen. Colour reproduction is better on the Incredible S, as is pixel density (same resolution, smaller screen).
The Incredible S uses a slightly updated camera over the DHD, it had reasonable picture quality (for an HTC device - cameras aren't a strong point for HTC). The Incredible S' soft keys on the front are actually LEDs, they rotate if you use the phone in landscape mode. The back is coated in soft-touch rubber paint, which feels great.
The Desire HD has a good screen - if you like them big. It has a solid build and comfortable weight, but is let down by the battery cover and the average battery life.
In daily use there is little difference, however there is more aftermarket (read: XDA) support for the Desire HD than the Incredible S. What's on offer for both devices, though, is awesome.
They both shoot 720p video. They both have wireless N and Bluetooth. They both have about 1.5GB internal space. They both use a 1GHz Scorpion with 768MB RAM.
I preferred the Incredible because I like a sharp, crisp picture. That's just me.
In short, go with the design you like more

Sensation is better with all aspects.
But it has signal issues. BT, Wi-Fi, and GSM antennas connected to back cover. If you'll cover device's back, you'll Wi-Fi and BT signal. Also it has weak GSM signal.
You can find videos about issues on youtube.
Mounth ago I bought HTC Sensation. It's very good, fast, and sexy looking device...but with signal problems!
I've tested 3 different Sensation, they all have same issues. I think it's built-mistake...

Now I have chosen Incredible S Over sensation and Desire HD. But the problem is Arc is a good phone as you said. I went through some review. Arc is a quite a good phone but 384 MB memory is not going to do the job as i guess. In other words I won't be able to install many apps as I want. What do you think ?
By the way I'm still dying inside mate, because I would luv to buy a Sensation. But it has tons of problems such as battary life , laggy etc as I read. I dont wanna waste my money on a buggy phone ;-)
Thanks

Thanks for the reply orkhanahmadov. Do you experience any touch issue ? Lagging ? Low Battery life ? Any issues at all
Thanks

awesomexda said:
Now I have chosen Incredible S Over sensation and Desire HD. But the problem is Arc is a good phone as you said. I went through some review. Arc is a quite a good phone but 384 MB memory is not going to do the job as i guess. In other words I won't be able to install many apps as I want. What do you think ?
By the way I'm still dying inside mate, because I would luv to buy a Sensation. But it has tons of problems such as battary life , laggy etc as I read. I dont wanna waste my money on a buggy phone ;-)
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No no, the 384MB is RAM, not ROM. RAM is used by the system. Simple explanation; more RAM = more things open at once without slowing down.
In terms of overall zip, the Arc and Incredible were very close. It is a good phone.
If you're dying inside, however, I recommend a quick visit to the Hospital, followed by a trip to a phone shop to get yourself a Sensation. You're always going to wonder, otherwise

awesomexda said:
Thanks for the reply orkhanahmadov. Do you experience any touch issue ? Lagging ? Low Battery life ? Any issues at all
Thanks
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Some of Sensation users reports that they also have touchscreen lag issues. To be honest used it about 15 days but never had touchscreen problems.
I could live with weak BT and Wi-Fi signal, but I can't even make normal calls.
BTW, you can see this issues here, here and here.

You are funny man Noh way GSMArena says 320 MB storage, 512 MB RAM.
Im currently using a Wildfire. Its too slow. Thats why I would like to move on. On wildfire
384 MB RAM; 512 MB ROM. Not enough for me. I guess same applies to Arc too. As i know internal memory is important to have more apps
By the way You say that ARC and Incredible is very close. Which means still Incredible is better right ? What are the pros and cons Choosing ARC over Incredible and vice-versa ?
Thanks

orkhanahmadov said:
Some of Sensation users reports that they also have touchscreen lag issues. To be honest used it about 15 days but never had touchscreen problems.
I could live with weak BT and Wi-Fi signal, but I can't even make normal calls.
BTW, you can see this issues here, here and here.
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In other words Its not useable right ? That means I should go for Incredible over sensation ?
Thanks

awesomexda said:
You are funny man Noh way GSMArena says 320 MB storage, 512 MB RAM.
Im currently using a Wildfire. Its too slow. Thats why I would like to move on. On wildfire
384 MB RAM; 512 MB ROM. Not enough for me. I guess same applies to Arc too. As i know internal memory is important to have more apps
By the way You say that ARC and Incredible is very close. Which means still Incredible is better right ? What are the pros and cons Choosing ARC over Incredible and vice-versa ?
Thanks
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Ah, I misunderstood your post. I didn't think 384MB RAM sounded right. 320MB of storage isn't much, but you can put most of your Apps onto the SD card now so it's not a huge issue, unless you aren't using a memory card. Contrary to what a lot of people think, 512MB of RAM is ample today, unless you're an Atrix running WebTop
As for comparisons between the Inc S and Arc, I only favour the Incredible S out of the two because of design. The Arc was every bit as good a performer as the Incredible. It doesn't have Sense, but Sony's UI isn't too bad at all. The screen is a little bigger and very, very good. Excellent camera, especially videos. Battery life was comparable to the Incredible S.

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In other words Its not useable right ? That means I should go for Incredible over sensation ?
Thanks
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It has factory defects. Maybe you'll never face GSM, BT signal or touchscreen issues, but you'll see every Sensation have Wi-Fi signal problems.
If you like Incredible S, you can go with it.
But my choice was Samsung Galaxy S2.

i wouldn't recommend the arc.. look how much you find about it on xda, and compare it to the htc devices..
well but if you dont care about tinkering, why not
the sensation was never an option for me, i always wanted to get a GSII.. but now that i used one of a friend i have to say that i just dont like how its build.. its too light >.< but you should try it.. (i'm maybe just too spoiled from the buildquality of my HD2)
now im still with my HD2. i'll wait till they release the new phones around september/oktober/november..
the nexus prime is my hope
i would recommend to wait..

NEED an HONEST USER opinion PLEASE ^^,

ive posted a soliciting opinion in the galaxy s II forum..of corz most of the answers was inclined to having a galaxy s2..
im torn to choosing between htc sensation and sgs2.
ive read many users opinion and complaint regarding so many issues about htc sensation..one of which is the "death grip" on wifi radio.some are the unresponsive touchscreen and the screen acquiring dust overtime...compared to sgs2 yellowish tint problem and the back side being very hot..
so i want to solicit opinions to the real htc sensation user before buying it..viewing angle is not an issue for me coz i really dont want others on my side to see what im doing with my phone specially when im texting or something..
so if any of u has a hands on with htc sensation and the sgs2..please i need ur help..im using xperia arc as of now and want to buy a phone with dual core cpu ^^,
thanks and more power

Working in a mobile shop I get to play with phones all day. When it come to death grip all smart phones have it sensation and gs2 included. I chose the sensation purely on the build quilty. The galaxy s 2 is plasticy and feels cheap but the screen is amazing. When it come to faulty units HTC has less issues than other manufactures and I see less returns on them too.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

Honestly it's really hard to pick between either.
I honestly went with the Sensation because I like HTC due to their customer service. They were friendly to me and replaced parts on my Touch HD. After heavy usage and heat it went crazy and then HTC fixed it for me even though I bought it internationally and shouldn't have gotten any warranty.
That's not to say Samsung has horrible customer service, it's just after that I very much stayed with HTC.
I could be a rare case though.

I own both phones and without question IMO, the sgs2 is the best android phone available. I do like the build quality of the Sensation better but I don't care how it feels I only care about how it works.

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I own both phones and without question IMO, the sgs2 is the best android phone available. I do like the build quality of the Sensation better but I don't care how it feels I only care about how it works.
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ok..im aware that using benchmarks, etc, sgs2 is really the best..but when im watching reviews, send UI is somewhat on the plus side for me compared to sgs2 touchwiz..im not sure coz honestly i havent held any one of the 2 phones yet..i hope soon coz im really planning to buy one..
since u own both these device, did u xperince a lag using htc sensation?and on ur recommendation, u would recommend sgs 2 basing on the overall user experience?

Benchmarks mean nothing.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

I bought Sensation, because I love good built phones (I don't want to pay 450€ for mobile phone, which is from cheap plastic...) . And because I prefer Sense to TouchWiz.
But anyway, I have a suggestion for you. Flip a coin and say that head is Sensation, and number is SGS2. And when the coin will be in air, you will know which side you hope to be. And then buy one phone, which you are hoping to fall. And not the one that really falls =)
Hope it helps

Sensation vs SGS2
I bought my sensation because:
Stylish (not similar to other devices- ex. apple suing samsung)
Sense UI (best UI, hands down)
Power consumption
Screen (Less power consumption)
Built Quality
P.S.
Death grip can only happen if intentionally done (check youtube)
SGS2 screen technology (AMOLED) "drawbacks include reduced brightness and colors that are often over-saturated. OLED screens also suffer an awkward aging effect, where the red, green and blue sub-pixels will deteriorate and lose efficiency at different rates, which causes brightness and color consistency to worsen over time. While improvements are being made, it's important to understand that this display technology is still relatively immature." ....Engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/engadget-primed-all-mobile-displays-are-not-created-equal/

If you can, go to the store and try both. You will see which one you like better
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

I was actually torn between getting these two, at one stage I placed an order for the SG2 - lucky paypal was being slow with giving me my money from the sale of my iPhone - Thus after a day I cancelled the order and re-ordered the Sensation purely for the qHD, aluminium unibody and build quality along with what I thought and hoped would be the faster phone!
Hopefully over the coming months the gap will close between the two phones, remember that at 1.5GHz this phone benchmarks better that the SG2 and HTC under clocked it to 1.2GHz, also in benchmarks the phone is pushing something like 25% more pixels

jlevy73 said:
I own both phones and without question IMO, the sgs2 is the best android phone available. I do like the build quality of the Sensation better but I don't care how it feels I only care about how it works.
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Joshhedge said:
I was actually torn between getting these two, at one stage I placed an order for the SG2 - lucky paypal was being slow with giving me my money from the sale of my iPhone - Thus after a day I cancelled the order and re-ordered the Sensation purely for the qHD, aluminium unibody and build quality along with what I thought and hoped would be the faster phone!
Hopefully over the coming months the gap will close between the two phones, remember that at 1.5GHz this phone benchmarks better that the SG2 and HTC under clocked it to 1.2GHz, also in benchmarks the phone is pushing something like 25% more pixels
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thanks bro..im just thinking regarding the back cover..the upper lip of the cover is like coversing the upper part of the phone right?when covering it, the upper part of the back cover that is covering the upper part is sealed well?i mean dust will not likely to go inside freely?and also to the side?that is one thing im worried about coz i dont want dust to go inside the phone for example..as what others are saying that there are dust inside the screen specifically...

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thanks bro..im just thinking regarding the back cover..the upper lip of the cover is like coversing the upper part of the phone right?when covering it, the upper part of the back cover that is covering the upper part is sealed well?i mean dust will not likely to go inside freely?and also to the side?that is one thing im worried about coz i dont want dust to go inside the phone for example..as what others are saying that there are dust inside the screen specifically...
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Dust will go inside the phone from the top and from the camera holes. I clean the inside 1's a week, but dust does not go inside the screen. the good thing about the sensation design is that you can replace the cover with a new one if you damaged it and it will be like new as long as you don't damaged the screen.
I think you should go to a store and play with both phones and decide for yourself which one you like best. Both are great phones with plus and minuses. If you like the design and plastic build of the SGS2 then buy it. I would have bought the SGS2 if it was designed like the sensation.

n1kon said:
Working in a mobile shop I get to play with phones all day. When it come to death grip all smart phones have it sensation and gs2 included. I chose the sensation purely on the build quilty. The galaxy s 2 is plasticy and feels cheap but the screen is amazing. When it come to faulty units HTC has less issues than other manufactures and I see less returns on them too.
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i also like the built quality of htc sentation compare to the sgs2..
when u were playing with both phone..particularly htc sensation, did u notice any lag when opening apps or games or something?how abut in browsing

I have tried very hard to try to recreate this "death grip" and I cannot do anything to lose signal! I wouldnt even put that into your equation right now. As far as the screen, my screen is very responsive an accurate but I do have a bit of dust under it but that is more a minor annoyance. I am a little bias as I am a sensation owner, but Im just saying, I use to be a stock android guy and hated sense, but sense 3.0 is bomb! I would take the sensation over the sgsII almost any day just because of sense 3.0. (Its that good) And then again everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

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i also like the built quality of htc sentation compare to the sgs2..
when u were playing with both phone..particularly htc sensation, did u notice any lag when opening apps or games or something?how abut in browsing
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There is a bit of lag in stock roms but I never use a stock rom I'm all for customs
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I've have owned the sgs2 and currently have the sensation.
The only reason I changed over is cos I missed sense UI, if that isn't a problem for you then I'd say get the galaxy s2.
Galaxy s2 is faster, web browsing is faster, the camera and colours are brill, the speaker is louder and in my opinion better.
I've noticed my sensation hangs on web pages, apps don't open as quick.
Im not sure if I'm correct on saying this but to me it feels that sense 3.0 isnt supposed to run on this device even though my old desire hd handled it flawlessly.
I understand when people say that touchwiz looks very iphonish, and I agree also.
The one thing that bugged me with the galaxy s2 is defo the fact there is no notification light.
I'm gonna finish now and will probably get flamed but its just how I feel.
Like I said I come back to HTC cos I missed sense, but if ur not bothered bout UI then I'd say get galaxy s2.
Hopefully HTC bring out an update that would make my device fly.
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dazza_84 said:
I've have owned the sgs2 and currently have the sensation.
The only reason I changed over is cos I missed sense UI, if that isn't a problem for you then I'd say get the galaxy s2.
Galaxy s2 is faster, web browsing is faster, the camera and colours are brill, the speaker is louder and in my opinion better.
I've noticed my sensation hangs on web pages, apps don't open as quick.
Im not sure if I'm correct on saying this but to me it feels that sense 3.0 isnt supposed to run on this device even though my old desire hd handled it flawlessly.
I understand when people say that touchwiz looks very iphonish, and I agree also.
The one thing that bugged me with the galaxy s2 is defo the fact there is no notification light.
I'm gonna finish now and will probably get flamed but its just how I feel.
Like I said I come back to HTC cos I missed sense, but if ur not bothered bout UI then I'd say get galaxy s2.
Hopefully HTC bring out an update that would make my device fly.
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No Flaming here just manlove I totally agree with you. I switched from touch HD to sensation. I would have bought SGS2 if it was designed differently. I think it is a great phone except I just can't get over the design, it is ugly

I'm going to speak primarily of the Sensation because I have no experience with the SGS2:
Pros:
Build quality (although I honestly don't get why people think this is such a big deal when a lot of people put covers on their phone)
UI (I need to stress that VISUALLY I like Sense 3.0, you'll see what I mean later)
qHD resolution
Design (basically same category as build quality)
Web browsing (qHD makes it really nice, and I've also read that the SGS2 doesn't automatically rewrap text when you zoom in/out like the Sensation does)
Cons:
Screen tech (I will never buy a LCD phone again; LCD is absolutely worthless in direct sunlight and bright areas and I can't see my phone's screen in said situations; and plus as SAMOLED+ technology matures they'll take care of problems like the yellowish tint)
Speaker (there is no way for me to put this other than to say the Sensation's speaker is absolutely ****ty; my brother's old MyTouch 4G has a WAY louder speaker and it's an older phone)
Processor (this is sort of a time-related thing, because in a technical sense the Sensation's chip actually has some advantages on paper like asynchronous cores; the problem is is that Gingerbread apparently doesn't have adequate dual-core support and I don't believe an asynchronous dual-core phone will do as well as a synchronous dual-core phone until ICS, but even then we'll have to see what does better)
UI (while I also put UI in the Pros section for its looks, I have to say that Sense 3.0 is laggy as **** on the Sensation and is not optimized; I'm saying this while I'm on one of the faster custom ROMs, which still is laggy; I don't like the looks of Touchwiz like many on here, but I would kill for its smoothness)
Camera (not that it's bad, it's quite good, but reviews are unanimous that the SGS2 camera is even better)
Internal memory (1 GB vs. 16 GB; need I say more?)
RAM (768 MB vs. 1 GB; again, need I say more?)
Deathgrip (I know people will say that all phones experience deathgrip issues, but I don't think most have it as bad as the Sensation does)
Battery (this is minor, because the battery life is pretty decent, but most top-line phones are coming out with upwards of 1700 mAh batteries these days)
That sums up my views, I may be missing a few points here and there. The only things I like about my Sensation are the design and build quality, the UI, and the qHD resolution. Otherwise, I honestly think that the Sensation was completely out-spec'd even at the time it came out.

I have Sensation for about three months now! I came from a HD2 ( a special case ) and i was expecting the most powerful smartphone in the world. At first i was disappointed (before S-off ). The lag that everyone is talking about WAS there! The phone wasn't really laggy but it was not as i expected. The apps were launching really fast but i knew it could get much better. The gs2 was at the time a lot faster. The normal user couldn't tell the difference and every day experience was the same if not better ( i prefer sense ui too ). I'm writing in the past tense because after the S-off and with a custom rom (IC 2.3.5) my Sensation is blazing fast ( almost as i want it to be ). Anyway, you should go and try both of them. GS2 is a great phone and if you choose to buy it you won't regret it. It's a matter of personal preference! I prefer HTC's quality, looks, qHD screen, customer service and Sense UI. You may prefer the Super Amoled Plus, more built in memory and RAM. It's your choice .

I love my Sensation. Bought 5 of them for the family. Haven't had any issues. Especially now that updates are out and bugs are getting fixed (not to mention custom roms), the Sensation is a super sweet phone.

Should i upgrade?

Hello sensation community
Currently i am a proud owner of a HTC desire s and i want to upgrade my phone. I am looking for me with a better battery but also a bigger screen and a faster processor. I very much like the build quality from HTC and their unique unibody case. So the sensation is on my list. Would you recommend this phone to me?
I have also some questions
Is it easy to s-off, root the phone and to apply custom roms?
How long last the battery with medium/heavy usage (heavely whatsapp/sms?
And do you guys think i can play upcoming android games?
I would really appreciate some answers
Thanks in advice
- Jahai
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I have HTC Sensation. It was very easy to S-OFF it and install custom ROMs. Usually I charge it every evening, but after overnight charge it can hold 2 days if used very slightly. Havy usage will kill it during one day for sure There are also batteries with extended capacity, like Anker, available.
Considering performance, I think this phone has a great potential that will be unleashed with ICS.

Jahai said:
Hello sensation community
Currently i am a proud owner of a HTC desire s and i want to upgrade my phone. I am looking for me with a better battery but also a bigger screen and a faster processor. I very much like the build quality from HTC and their unique unibody case. So the sensation is on my list. Would you recommend this phone to me?
I have also some questions
Is it easy to s-off, root the phone and to apply custom roms?
How long last the battery with medium/heavy usage (heavely whatsapp/sms?
And do you guys think i can play upcoming android games?
I would really appreciate some answers
Thanks in advice
- Jahai
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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The development is getting much better in here ics is fully working only need to charge at might with a day of heavy usage, double that with moderate, everything with regards to custom roms is simple,
However the desire s is a Good phone, wait a little while there's a few new phones round the corner ike the htc ville or the sg3
Sent from my CM7 Sensation XE using xda premium

Jahai said:
Hello sensation community
Currently i am a proud owner of a HTC desire s and i want to upgrade my phone. I am looking for me with a better battery but also a bigger screen and a faster processor. I very much like the build quality from HTC and their unique unibody case. So the sensation is on my list. Would you recommend this phone to me?
I have also some questions
Is it easy to s-off, root the phone and to apply custom roms?
How long last the battery with medium/heavy usage (heavely whatsapp/sms?
And do you guys think i can play upcoming android games?
I would really appreciate some answers
Thanks in advice
- Jahai
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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hey, I've owned the HTC Sensation z710e since launch and I can tell you I'd actually advise NOT to get it. It's branded as a fast phone but truth be told it really isn't. When I've asked about the speed compared to sgs2 they say sense slows it down so i used an aosp rom, still slower, until i overclocked till 1.7ghz, it was just a bit better. The phone has over-heating issues, the bottom of the screen and back cover get extremely hot after about 10-20 mins use. There is also a rather pathetic death grip issue, at the top AND bottom of the phone. I'd go for a samsung phone, deffinately. Apart from these three rather annoying facts, it's extremely easy to root and run roms.

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hey, I've owned the HTC Sensation z710e since launch and I can tell you I'd actually advise NOT to get it. It's branded as a fast phone but truth be told it really isn't. When I've asked about the speed compared to sgs2 they say sense slows it down so i used an aosp rom, still slower, until i overclocked till 1.7ghz, it was just a bit better. The phone has over-heating issues, the bottom of the screen and back cover get extremely hot after about 10-20 mins use. There is also a rather pathetic death grip issue, at the top AND bottom of the phone. I'd go for a samsung phone, deffinately. Apart from these three rather annoying facts, it's extremely easy to root and run roms.
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Don't wanna make this into an argument but I don't have any of these issues and with ICS the phone is buttery smooth handles 3D games easily like gta and need for speed, out if the box its pants, it doesn't get over heated bit it will at 1.7 the death grip is there but only if you put your whole hand over the back of the phone
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I'd have to agree with whynot66, also note that a lot of the complaints/problems about the sensation (ie. dust problems, overheating) are coming out of a very vocal/unlucky minority. After all, users with no problems don't post "HEY I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH MY PHONE!" threads.
Personally, my phone runs super smooth and with ICS I get 60 hours battery life on one overnight charge and medium usage.
I would recommend adopting a wait and see approach though, since the next generation is about to be unveiled.
Side note, isn't it crazy that a generation of phones only lasts for a year tops? And I used to think console generations are short...

MoodyTunic said:
I'd have to agree with whynot66, also note that a lot of the complaints/problems about the sensation (ie. dust problems, overheating) are coming out of a very vocal/unlucky minority. After all, users with no problems don't post "HEY I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH MY PHONE!" threads.
Personally, my phone runs super smooth and with ICS I get 60 hours battery life on one overnight charge and medium usage.
I would recommend adopting a wait and see approach though, since the next generation is about to be unveiled.
Side note, isn't it crazy that a generation of phones only lasts for a year tops? And I used to think console generations are short...
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+ 1 that I bought the xe when it came out didn't know it was just an overclocked sensation till I got it only had it about 6 months and I'm thinking about quad cores lol, console generations are slow in comparison the ps4 will have to be something special tho
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Draw back to having the latest phone is that you will be stuck with stock ROM from HTC, development only happens for popular phones and the rate of new models mean no-one spends time learning to code for them.
Look at the HD2, well past it's use date and still going strong because of the huge and expert user base, they've performed miracles with it. I was surprised when I moved from HD2 to Sensation that so little coding has been done for it, no offence to devs, but AOSP is still a while off yet and all the ICS releases are tweaks of a stock ROM leak.
I hope the release rate of new phones slows, otherwise the userbase gets more and more fragmented. Looking at HTC's drop in sales I think they must be realising that cutting edge hardware on it's own itsn't enough, it needs excellent software to shine.
Next time I buy a new phone I'm first gonna check which phone the best devs are buying, then follow them.

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The development is getting much better in here ics is fully working only need to charge at might with a day of heavy usage, double that with moderate, everything with regards to custom roms is simple,
However the desire s is a Good phone, wait a little while there's a few new phones round the corner ike the htc ville or the sg3
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That sounds very good. With my Desire S I'm already used to charge it every night so that isnt a problem. But with my current phone i can't always have mobile data on, for whatsapp, facebook, etc. I would really appreciate it if i could have allways mobile data on and use it for textings, no much downloading or surfing, just texting
And do you guys can give some information about battery life? Pls with the screen on time otherwise it would been senseless
Buying another battery like the 1900mah anker isn' a problem either
I don't want to buy these phones cause as mentioned already the developement isnt really big, it's at the beginning of the growning then. Otherwise will these phones be at high prices :/ maybe 450-600€ (europe).
I've heard that the developement on the sensation is very far progressed, is it right?
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hey, I've owned the HTC Sensation z710e since launch and I can tell you I'd actually advise NOT to get it. It's branded as a fast phone but truth be told it really isn't. When I've asked about the speed compared to sgs2 they say sense slows it down so i used an aosp rom, still slower, until i overclocked till 1.7ghz, it was just a bit better. The phone has over-heating issues, the bottom of the screen and back cover get extremely hot after about 10-20 mins use. There is also a rather pathetic death grip issue, at the top AND bottom of the phone. I'd go for a samsung phone, deffinately. Apart from these three rather annoying facts, it's extremely easy to root and run roms.
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At the moment I'm using my Desire S with a optimized Sense 3 Rom and it is 75% smooth and thats with a 1GH singlecore processor. So i think the 1,2GH Dualcore processor of the Sensation will be satisfying my needs for speed and smoothness
Besides that I'm to this "overheating" and the death grip. In my opinion its pretty normal for a aluminium-uniboy-phone
I wouldn't go for Samsung as I don't like the plastic case. I don't care if it is high quality plastic or not, I simply don't like that as much as the aluminium unibody from HTC. And I really like HTC Sense, also don't care if it slow downs the phone, I really like the options on Sense and how it is user friendly + the looks so Samsung isn't really an option for me.
A short information, on my current phone, the Desire S, I have to get S-Off (simply with the revolutionary tool, very easy), then install a custom recovery like cwm or 4ext (adb push or as PG88IMG.zip per bootloader, easy too) and then can flash a zip for superuser/root or custom roms.
So I am already used to adb/fastboot commands and can use these as well as update zips within the bootloader. Is it the same on the Sensation or are there any other steps to do?

I have had mine for a week or two. I do not have death grip issue or any of the issues some report to have. I recommend this phone. I absoluty love it. It is not as fast as my g2x but it also doesn't have all the bugs my g2x has. This phone looks great runs great and I do not regret purchasing it.
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Jahai said:
That sounds very good. With my Desire S I'm already used to charge it every night so that isnt a problem. But with my current phone i can't always have mobile data on, for whatsapp, facebook, etc. I would really appreciate it if i could have allways mobile data on and use it for textings, no much downloading or surfing, just texting
And do you guys can give some information about battery life? Pls with the screen on time otherwise it would been senseless
Buying another battery like the 1900mah anker isn' a problem either
I don't want to buy these phones cause as mentioned already the developement isnt really big, it's at the beginning of the growning then. Otherwise will these phones be at high prices :/ maybe 450-600€ (europe).
I've heard that the developement on the sensation is very far progressed, is it right?
At the moment I'm using my Desire S with a optimized Sense 3 Rom and it is 75% smooth and thats with a 1GH singlecore processor. So i think the 1,2GH Dualcore processor of the Sensation will be satisfying my needs for speed and smoothness
Besides that I'm to this "overheating" and the death grip. In my opinion its pretty normal for a aluminium-uniboy-phone
I wouldn't go for Samsung as I don't like the plastic case. I don't care if it is high quality plastic or not, I simply don't like that as much as the aluminium unibody from HTC. And I really like HTC Sense, also don't care if it slow downs the phone, I really like the options on Sense and how it is user friendly + the looks so Samsung isn't really an option for me.
A short information, on my current phone, the Desire S, I have to get S-Off (simply with the revolutionary tool, very easy), then install a custom recovery like cwm or 4ext (adb push or as PG88IMG.zip per bootloader, easy too) and then can flash a zip for superuser/root or custom roms.
So I am already used to adb/fastboot commands and can use these as well as update zips within the bootloader. Is it the same on the Sensation or are there any other steps to do?
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I am with you, I absolutely love sense!. I have held and played with samsung phones especially the GS2 and plastic doesn't feel anything like aluminum and SGS2 just looks ugly. SGS2 is a great device except for its choice of materials and design, I would have bought one if it wasn't too ugly. Sensation is a nice phone and except for the dust under the screen problem that I have, it is absolutely amazing. But since it is 2012 and quad core phones are coming, I suggest you wait for htc Edge or anything that is quad core.

1.5 dual core is the true measure the development is steadily growing. I have mobile data always on and/or wifi. We're running sense 3.6 leak. But htc will be releasing ics officially soon with sense 4.0 once that is released it will be even better. There is some exceptionally skilled devs around here too
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brusko1972 said:
I am with you, I absolutely love sense!. I have held and played with samsung phones especially the GS2 and plastic doesn't feel anything like aluminum and SGS2 just looks ugly. SGS2 is a great device except for its choice of materials and design, I would have bought one if it wasn't too ugly. Sensation is a nice phone and except for the dust under the screen problem that I have, it is absolutely amazing. But since it is 2012 and quad core phones are coming, I suggest you wait for htc Edge or anything that is quad core.
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Thats are exactly my thoughts except the part with the waiting
i don't need a quadcore and i can't see where a quadcore could improve something. the most apps on the market are for singlecores and dont take any advantage from more cores. even the dualcore isnt really used, its still useful especially for sense but i didnt see the point in using quadcores. its the same as the ram. for what do you need, let me say 2gb ram, if all the time 1,4gb are free? if you use a device with 768mb of ram and you only use 500mb it isnt a advantage for you to have 2gb of ram. its useless, and in my opinion its the same qith the amount of cores of the processor. we shouldnt move to quadcores if we dont optimized the dualcore to the max.
as always just my thoughts

Jahai said:
And do you guys can give some information about battery life? Pls with the screen on time otherwise it would been senseless
Buying another battery like the 1900mah anker isn' a problem either
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Battery life for me, with the Anker 1900, is between 24 to 36hrs with phone, data, wifi and sync on all the time - that's with 5 to 6hrs of the screen being on.
For the S-off, root and CWM the sensation is pretty similar, there are several sticky threads you need to read.

Yes it is easy to S-off, root and flash custom ROMs and I havn't had any real issues with it. However, I had a Desire S before my Sensation and I wouldn't say that it was a very big jump between the 2, I agree with a few others on here that you are better off waiting until something else comes along that is worth the extra outlay for a more significant upgrade.
With regards to battery life I have found it to be similar to the Desire S, although the Sensation has a bigger battery it also uses more power so I get a similar amount of life out of it, less than a day at my reasonable heavy usage level.

Something to note, the asmp design of our dualcore Snapdragon is definitely not optimized for performance, and the supposedly powerful Adreno 220 gpu is either overrated or htc just gave us crappy drivers for it.
So like someone said above me, the real world difference between Desire and Sensation will probably not be huge. The Sensation is a good phone, but if you want raw power for gaming, you might want to wait and see what comes down the pipeline.

I also wouldnt go for the Sensation now. The step from Desire S to the Sensa just isnt big enough to justify investing the money. Just wait for a month or two and get the latest model than....which most likely wont be much more expensive then the Sensa XE is now.

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I also wouldnt go for the Sensation now. The step from Desire S to the Sensa just isnt big enough to justify investing the money. Just wait for a month or two and get the latest model than....which most likely wont be much more expensive then the Sensa XE is now.
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but the sensation xe is on a price level were i wouldnt even considering it.
the sensation is now on a price were i really think about upgrading, the screensize of my desire s does really annoying me with the time, its simply to small.. i've looked in shops and tried different phones with different sizes. and 4,3inch fits perfectly for me, 4,65 or even 5,3 is just too big were 4 is a bit too small

I'd say wait too, more so since you're already coming from a good phone.
Hopefully, MWC will push prices of older phones down a little and let you see what new stuff there is too.