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So who is going to buy the new phones when at&t releases them, or be like me and wait about 6 months to see what else pops up?
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If you play the waiting game, you'll be waiting forever.
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If you play the waiting game, you'll be waiting forever.
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Thats why i am waiting about 6 months, enough to see if anything better then the atrix will come out.
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Why are we working on 2.2
Why not 2.2.1 or 2.3
Let's not beat a dead horse.
Sorry to be blunt, but there is numerous threads about this.
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Why not 2.2.1 or 2.3
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I am talking about when you know you are going to drop the captivate... but if your going to wait and see what other stuff comes out or not.
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i will WAIT!!bring on the samsung galaxy hologram phone lol..but i wonder about att.pricing for data on their so called 4GNETWORK. you you all ever hear of internet2 you are going to love that,it will keep you safe
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i will WAIT!!bring on the samsung galaxy hologram phone lol..but i wonder about att.pricing for data on their so called 4GNETWORK. you you all ever hear of internet2 you are going to love that,it will keep you safe
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you do know of this,yes?,,i will eat my laptop in 11 months from now if this **** doesnt happen,and you mikey also think google will not start censoring the net before that? i hope you right,,,,,,,i dont want it ,,,heyyyyyyyy lets get mikey,live in your dreamworld here,i hope you are prepared.you good sir sound like a SHILL,good day
LMAO @ that insult video
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Thats why i am waiting about 6 months, enough to see if anything better then the atrix will come out.
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Thats so long though; I got the captivate last july(?) And i can upgrade right noW. The Atrix and dock are very tempting but theyre going ti announce some good stuff at MWC. I just hope to god they take a note from Apple and have the phones ready to ship within a month or so.
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FLAC Vest said:
Thats so long though; I got the captivate last july(?) And i can upgrade right noW. The Atrix and dock are very tempting but theyre going ti announce some good stuff at MWC. I just hope to god they take a note from Apple and have the phones ready to ship within a month or so.
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For three reasons mostly, to see the good of the phones, the bad, if they will get updated, and what new phones are planned.
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Thats why i am waiting about 6 months, enough to see if anything better then the atrix will come out.
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exactly and when that next great thing is released in 6 months....don't you think you will want to wait another six months to see what other next greatest thing is about to be released?
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exactly and when that next great thing is released in 6 months....don't you think you will want to wait another six months to see what other next greatest thing is about to be released?
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No matter what you get, or when you get it, it's obsolete in a matter of weeks.
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Yea, I would say think "video card". Those suckers are pumped out so fast, that is the only item in my pc that I am hesitant to buy.
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No matter what you get, or when you get it, it's obsolete in a matter of weeks.
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Yea, I would say think "video card". Those suckers are pumped out so fast, that is the only item in my pc that I am hesitant to buy.
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these two posts = thumbs up.
the question is. when to stop waiting? its either now or never imo
oh, and thumbs down to the thread title. its very unimformative, it could be about the world ending or about a new cat you just got... i cant tell by the title.
I agree. Please title your threads appropriately OP. "So...." is a title that should get you banned for a week.
If you know that AT&T is going to release better products down the road (and you do, if you're thinking about waiting 6 or so months) then you have to decide whether or not its worth it to get an HSPA+ phone or wait for the inevitable LTE devices to rear their heads. Personally, I'm thinking of getting an Inspire 4G retail when they're launched as a birthday present to me from me, and then possibly using my upgrade later on when an LTE device shows up. It's all a matter of whether it's worth the wait to you.
i used my update on my craptivate with my 2.1dumpdate1. if it wasnt for you devs then i would be pissing on samsungs doorstep right now. i think ill either get the atrix or a nexus s since dev phones are about the only thing guarunteed to get the latest stuff. paying full price anyway. id like to see motorola drop a high powered device like the atrix but wrap it up all tanky like the defy.
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If you know that AT&T is going to release better products down the road (and you do, if you're thinking about waiting 6 or so months) then you have to decide whether or not its worth it to get an HSPA+ phone or wait for the inevitable LTE devices to rear their heads. Personally, I'm thinking of getting an Inspire 4G retail when they're launched as a birthday present to me from me, and then possibly using my upgrade later on when an LTE device shows up. It's all a matter of whether it's worth the wait to you.
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Exactly. See, I already have the Captivate now which, although won't be the best thing on the market soon, is still a damn good phone and @ 1.28ghz it keeps up just nicely with the best if them.
I have an upgrade and the question now is; what do I get? Since the Atrix was a flop (pricing and required tethering) im definitely waiting for MWC to see whats coming; the new Samsung phone should be great.
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http://phandroid.com/2011/06/01/htc...ers-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-scheduled/
I look forward to the official update so the devs can get to work and this whole Ginger radio thing can be put to bed.
You would think so but you never know with HTC. Here is for hoping though.
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You would think so but you never know with HTC. Here is for hoping though.
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Very true. However, they at least have the sense overlay done (or so it would seem), so that leaves the LTE radio... that's about it.
*raises a glass to HTC*
Don't let me down *****es.
I am so jelous.
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Gingerbread will come out after the maintenance fix update that verizon & HTC are working on. The maintenance update is scheduled for this month so hopefully not to much longer for ginger...
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Gingerbread will come out after the maintenance fix update that verizon & HTC are working on. The maintenance update is scheduled for this month so hopefully not to much longer for ginger...
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You say that pretty confidently. Do you have a good source of information? Just curious if you've got inside knowledge or if this is coming from the internet rumor mill.
Either way I hope you're right. I can't wait for some GB action.
Thanks!
Let's hope they fix it because my Bolt has been a turd. 5 random reboots yesterday.
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You say that pretty confidently. Do you have a good source of information? Just curious if you've got inside knowledge or if this is coming from the internet rumor mill.
Either way I hope you're right. I can't wait for some GB action.
Thanks!
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I can say that it does come from verizon and its not your everyday cs rep or a store employee. I have known the person since I'm 5 (41 Now) and they have been with verizon 15 years and has worked his way up from tech to a nice position.
I can also add that they were looking into making the maintenance update part of the GB upgrade but were having issues with it so as of now they are two seperate ota's.
Im sure some of the devs here can check and see if this has any validity. I cant get him to confirm a GB date but he said nothing will be set for GB until current issues are dealt with..
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I can say that it does come from verizon and its not your everyday cs rep or a store employee. I have known the person since I'm 5 (41 Now) and they have been with verizon 15 years and has worked his way up from tech to a nice position.
I can also add that they were looking into making the maintenance update part of the GB upgrade but were having issues with it so as of now they are two seperate ota's.
Im sure some of the devs here can check and see if this has any validity. I cant get him to confirm a GB date but he said nothing will be set for GB until current issues are dealt with..
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Where have you been all my (Android) life?!
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Where have you been all my (Android) life?!
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In my pants...
Been using multiple GB 2.3.3, and 2.3.4 roms, including alpha CM7, with very little issue. I would expect official release soon if I didn't know Verizon so well.
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The EVO has been out a longer than the thunderbolt, and its just now getting it. I'm not saying it will take that long for the tbolt to ft GB, I'm just saying don't get your heart completely set on getting it real soon. Who knows these days really..
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I hope it doesn't have the issues the Droid X has with the ota update that rolled out.
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I hope it doesn't have the issues the Droid X has with the ota update that rolled out.
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All updates have issues so it's going to be pretty much unavoidable. Factory resets can generally clear up most of them though.
Huh at&t or google screwing us over already one of the two lol. We don't even have official gingerbread and there getting ready to release this? Wow!
http://www.redmondpie.com/android-j...r-android-with-game-changing-features-report/
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Hey bro, how does this equal "Google screwing us?" ATT's the one to blame for us not having an official Gingerbread OTA drop.
EDIT: Better yet, I'm going to find you in IRC
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Hey bro, how does this equal "Google screwing us?" ATT's the one to blame for us not having an official Gingerbread OTA drop.
EDIT: Better yet, I'm going to find you in IRC
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.......infuse.....Infused....infusion.........
Some people lack common sense.lol but ya dude..its all AT&T not google..
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Nowhere in the posted article does it say that Jellybean is "about to be released."
It's almost comical that they are referring to another release when ICS hasn't even been released.
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It's almost comical that they are referring to another release when ICS hasn't even been released.
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Rumor has it. ICS is gonna be release in October with the nexus (droid)prime
Android kicks apples ass.. Infused 2.1.0
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Nowhere in the posted article does it say that Jellybean is "about to be released."
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Ok there Guy could be early as next month but mostly points at October or November. We don't need a bunch of doctor Phil's In here trying to correct everything. Lol funny. Just read the post and leave it be.
But Google is comical they don't even have other things fixes but they are trying to release more. Im glad they are staying in the fastlane but they need to kick ATT in gear and fix other issues then release new stuff.
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I blame Samsung and not AT&T. My Atrix we updated twice within 2 months of it coming out.
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ATT definitely needs to get on the bandwagon with the Infuse, my Atrix got Gingerbread pretty quick. Not sure what the big deal is.
I hate to say it guys but get used to it. ATT is terrible with updates. Each phone may get one major update and thats about it. Any of you that have been in the smartphone world for a while will know this. Hell sometimes ATT wont push any updates for a phone at all.
I mean think about it. A phone is termed EOL after 4 months of ATT releasing it.
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I hate to say it guys but get used to it. ATT is terrible with updates. Each phone may get one major update and thats about it. Any of you that have been in the smartphone world for a while will know this. Hell sometimes ATT wont push any updates for a phone at all.
I mean think about it. A phone is termed EOL after 4 months of ATT releasing it.
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I know its just crazy you would of figured this phone being 4g lol would have been perfect opportunity to run newer faster system
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I know its just crazy you would of figured this phone being 4g lol would have been perfect opportunity to run newer faster system
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T-Mobile was bad with updates except with the Nexus S.
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Samsung or ATT?
We don't know who is holding up the update, do we? It could be either Samsung or ATT. It's so frustrating that Ice Cream Sandwich is supposed to be released within the next few months and Infuse owners don't even have Gingerbread yet.
its the captivate all over again, over emphasis on updates(2.2 works fine for me), and a carrier that doesn't care about updates. why make the infuse their flagship and not push samsung to update it? i mean motorola got the atrix updated and att doesnt push that phone as hard, htc also got the inspire updated, att doesnt give a dan about that phone. but i really think it is samsung who wants to push updates only after a new device is released (sgs2!) and only because they want the new device to look beter the the "old" one
Bottom line here is simple: don't ever buy hardware in anticipation of future software releases (with the exception of a Nexus device). Once the device is sold the manufacturer really has no obligations to ever have anything to do with it again except for warranty services.
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Ok there Guy could be early as next month but mostly points at October or November.
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Reread the first paragraph, Tyshemi. Ice cream sandwich will be released in Oct/November. Jelly Bean will be released AFTER that, and if you go by Google's usual schedule, it would probably be around February.
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Reread the first paragraph, Tyshemi. Ice cream sandwich will be released in Oct/November. Jelly Bean will be released AFTER that, and if you go by Google's usual schedule, it would probably be around February.
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Doesn't matter when really a month two months its the fact that phone released at the same time as ours have seen nice updates and dome even two updates since launch. Its the fact that this was a eye opener for ATT you know a "look at me " phone that's going to need a time machine to catch up.
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All I see is too many phones coming, that the ave user will miss out on, because they are stuck on a 2 year contract, lol not everyone can afford to blow 300 plus every few months on the something new,
Truth be told I have an atrix ( which I love, great little workhorse ) and a infuse coming monday, Also have a droid incredible, and a inspire, and a few others laying around,
But the funny thing they all do the same thing, just some slightly faster than the other, etc.. right now even the droid incredible/nexus 1 still is plenty fast for gingerbread... and does everything those new dual core beasts can do.. for me its gonna boil down to design and the screen, much like when i used to shop for a pc/laptop.. <----hardly use those anymore, too. my 2 year old asus still runs like a champ. guess my point,. is choose what you like. dont get caught up in specs and hype. ..
rant over...
hey guys although i havent find nothing online that said so but a seen a few people talking about it in threats and even a tmobile sales men told me that there suppost to be a another ota for the g2x. some people thinks its gonna be 2.3.4 and have the LG Camera in it?
im just wanted to pass this along
and i will appreciate no hateful comments against LG/Tmobile.
we have this phone and we just go from there
Well, we're getting ICS either way thanks to Cyanogen... But it would be nice if LG and T-Mobile still showed some love for our phones!
I kind of doubt we will see another OTA update anytime soon but if we do great.
T mobile is all about the Sensation and Galaxy S 2, and LG has had enough if this fiasco of a phone. Cyanogen is the only hope of this ever getting another update, of any flavor.
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i hope this is true since i don't root my phones
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i guess you guys are right!! i just cant understand when tmobile gave my friend from tmobile tech support a g2x with gingebread for test when the g2x came out!
it was 2.3.4 and their ota its 2.3.3 i talked to my friend today to see if he heard anything of another ota for the g2x. he said no he hasnt heard anything and pretty much they have forgotten or given up with the g2x.
my opinion on this is if this phone isnt going to be that much of a deal to companies. well i thing NVIDIA should release their drivers to the devs!!!
and another thing this is suppost to be a GOOGLE phone! why google aint doing nothing!
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and another thing this is suppost to be a GOOGLE phone! why google aint doing nothing!
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Look here to find your answer: http://tinyurl.com/3pshom4!!!
New rule: Anyone who posts a LMGTFY link gets their fingers chewed off by drunken chimpanzees.
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omarsalmin said:
Look here to find your answer: http://tinyurl.com/3pshom4!!!
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and you have to be a jerk to a person that is just asking a question why.
maybe i should google that too.
The guy makes good points and is upset he threw his money away you have to add to that by being a jerk?
If the "OTA" is going to be 2.3.4, it's going to be outdated. We've been on 2.3.5<-- for almost 2 months now. (Well, with CM7, EB, Faux123, MIUI, etc.)
well that would be nice to see 2.3.4 at least.. maybe they can make the damn 4g icon and signal bars green like gingerbread is suppose to be. then give us the lg cam back then hopefully give us gtalk with video chat.. since skype hates tegra 2's and wont support are phones.. i shouldnt have to root my phone to get things that should just work with a stock rom.
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well that would be nice to see 2.3.4 at least.. maybe they can make the damn 4g icon and signal bars green like gingerbread is suppose to be. then give us the lg cam back then hopefully give us gtalk with video chat.. since skype hates tegra 2's and wont support are phones.. i shouldnt have to root my phone to get things that should just work with a stock rom.
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I guess you're right
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If the "OTA" is going to be 2.3.4, it's going to be outdated. We've been on 2.3.5<-- for almost 2 months now. (Well, with CM7, EB, Faux123, MIUI, etc.)
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Nexus One just updated today via OTA to 2.3.6. Hopefully LG skips a few versions and catches up if they issue another update.
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Nexus One just updated today via OTA to 2.3.6. Hopefully LG skips a few versions and catches up if they issue another update.
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thats what im saying!!! Nexus One or Nexus S are google phones thats why they get updates first but the g2x its a google phone too! so WTF
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thats what im saying!!! Nexus One or Nexus S are google phones thats why they get updates first but the g2x its a google phone too! so WTF
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It's not a google phone.
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It's not a google phone.
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Correct, it's just with google on the back of the phone like the G2. Only Google phones made are the nexus line.
Hell will freeze over before this phone gets another official update. If you wont root and update it yourself but are savvy enough to use xda you have no one to blame but yourself.
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The difference is that the devices in the Google Nexus line have their roms developed by Google engineers. Other devices must rely on the respective manufacturer to update them. On the Nexus line Google also pushes out the OTA themselves and never takes them down like T-Mobile did for the G2X. That was lame. Why not keep the OTA on your servers forever like Google does. Plus Google lets anyone get the OTA on any carrier. TMO limited it to people connected to their network (not even MVNOs) only. Since Google does their testing of new versions of Android on their own Nexus line, new roms get pushed out pretty darn fast. Soon, alas, they are going to declare the venerable Nexus One end of life (EOL) and stop providing roms for it. It might get ICS but we'll have to wait and see.
But the G2X is a great phone and the differences between 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 and 2.3.6 are so minimal there is nothing really to be upset about. No O2X worldwide has even gotten any official versions of GB yet, so you can be thankful, for once, that the US is a litigious society and the class action forced LG to release GB before they planned to. But now that they did, any future versions are questionable. LG doesn't have a good record of updating phones very often or very quickly.
i almost got to the point where i was gonna trade my g2x for a nexus s just because its a google phone and i know it will always be updated fast. but its hard to down grade from the g2xs nice specs
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i almost got to the point where i was gonna trade my g2x for a nexus s just because its a google phone and i know it will always be updated fast. but its hard to down grade from the g2xs nice specs
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I'd much rather keep my G2X, even if it was still on 2.2, rather than trade for a Nexus S. Keep your G2X.
HTC just tweeted, "ICS for thunderbolt is coming soon..."
About time. Thunderbolt needs new life breathed into it. Can't wait for this!
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HTC just tweeted, "ICS for thunderbolt is coming soon..."
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Lol you must have read my other post. They have been saying this since July mind you. Don't get your hopes up to high yet. Verizon can always shoot it down.
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I was under the impression that Verizon already had HTC's ICS. It is Verizon that is not releasing the software.
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HTC has been posting that same twitter reply since they was testing the test build back in April lol.
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Bout time, cant really find a phone that with a better radio and easy of use rootwise than the tb plus the darn thing will run any app and setting I toss at it.
If they only would hurry up and updrade it or shut up and admit that they built a monster that they cannot code for.
Its okay to admit failure you f'ing retards. Its the first phone of its kind and you were not prepared for it. (i.e. HateTC and VZW)
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ICS = Inadequate Customer Support
Of course they have happily provided that to TBolt owners for almost 2 years now.
Yes I still rock the Thunderbolt. You gotta problem with that?
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/12/1...-ice-cream-sandwich-update-will-be-here-soon/
Mind you i dont think there ar emany left in the thunderbolt area, but i cant wait to see it.
If an update doesn't come within a year of Google releasing it, it shouldn't count as an update.
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Lol you must have read my other post. They have been saying this since July mind you. Don't get your hopes up to high yet. Verizon can always shoot it down.
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That is certainly true but I also suspect that HTC wouldn't bother devoting any resources to developing s/w for a phone if a carrier has even a remote chance of shooting it down.
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That is certainly true but I also suspect that HTC wouldn't bother devoting any resources to developing s/w for a phone if a carrier has even a remote chance of shooting it down.
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I remember a few months ago there were rumors htc finished the build and was waiting on Verizon's approval.
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If you call HTC they mostly say Verizon has it. Then if you call Verizon they say waiting on HTC.
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Was the leak from ihtfp69 (TeamBamf) legitimate ? It was real nice other than the suck-the-life-out-of-battery kernel it had.
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Was the leak from ihtfp69 (TeamBamf) legitimate ? It was real nice other than the suck-the-life-out-of-battery kernel it had.
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From what I understand it is but the build was a very incomplete rom.
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Not before the end of the world!
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Was the leak from ihtfp69 (TeamBamf) legitimate ? It was real nice other than the suck-the-life-out-of-battery kernel it had.
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My understanding, right or wrong, was that HTC/VZW released some T-Bolts with an ICS "soak test" to around maybe 100 people? I applied too late to get in on it. The phone came with an NDA that apparently was almost iron clad as there were NO leaks at all until after the test ended and the test phones were returned.
It's my belief that the TeamBAMF leak was from one of those phones, someone may have copied it to his/her/it's PC and leaked it AFTER the test had closed and AFTER he/she/it had learned how to remove the identifying bits so that he/she/it wouldn't be subject to enforcement of the NDA.
I may be wrong, the above is merely pieced together from what I've read here and elsewhere.
FWIW, I ran the leak and had the usual short battery life BUT..... Later I restored the backup I'd made and, after a couple of days, the battery life improved a huge amount, it became about the same as other ICS ROMS.
As always, YMMV.
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From what I understand it is but the build was a very incomplete rom.
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They probably had the same issues as the devs did and can't figure it out but it's on the back burner and not forgotten. I hope
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At this point, I would be pretty surprised if ICS was released at all. I found that ICS, combined with Sense 4, is too much for the phone to handle smoothly. And I'm sure it would be worse when the typical Verizon bloat is added. Some work could probably be done to make it smoother and more power efficient, but I don't think that struggling HTC has any motivation to expend development resources on a phone that's rapidly approaching its second birthday.
Most Thunderbolt owners are able to upgrade now, or at least will be in the next couple months. Most people probably will -- and might even get a DNA. At least that's what HTC hopes!
I blame HTC for turning their backs on their customers and I will never buy another HTC product. They probably won't be around much longer anyway.
They have promised ICS for the Bolt several times before. I got tired of waiting, upgraded to Droid Maxx HD. 3 days after buying it Verizon pushed out Jelly Bean. Wow it was nice to actually get an update that fast!!!!
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Most Thunderbolt owners are able to upgrade now, or at least will be in the next couple months. Most people probably will -- and might even get a DNA. At least that's what HTC hopes!
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If they wanted me to get a DNA they'd have given it a removable battery and an SD card slot, as it is it's totally useless to me.