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These forums are getting littered with people asking for help after screwing up their phones trying to install CM7. Why are people who don't know what they're doing trying to install a ROM that is not yet fully functional? This should be left to devs who are trying to fix issues, not people who need their phones to work. I just don't get it.
I thought the topic was taken down.
Edit: Nevermind, the topic is still there. Imo though, I think it should be taken down and only progress be shown. Might prevent the massive amounts of bricking and general failure to read directions.
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Its actually pretty stable and works great long as you read step by step.
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Lol, gingerbread I suppose. :facepalm:
But yeah, they should know what they are doing. Otherwise, bricks ahoy!
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.
Thats exactly it, Gingerbread.
41LY45 said:
Lol, gingerbread I suppose. :facepalm:
But yeah, they should know what they are doing. Otherwise, bricks ahoy!
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.
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I bricked mine like 3 times trying to get "simple" Serendipity to work for the first time.
Gotta love the jig though. Didn't have one brick during the CM7 process though. Just a lot of resets back stock b/c of the mistakes.
41LY45 said:
Lol, gingerbread I suppose. :facepalm:
But yeah, they should know what they are doing. Otherwise, bricks ahoy!
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.
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Lol, it's amazing how badly some people cream their pants over bigger version numbers.
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miahsoul said:
I bricked mine like 3 times trying to get "simple" Serendipity to work for the first time.
Gotta love the jig though. Didn't have one brick during the CM7 process though. Just a lot of resets back stock b/c of the mistakes.
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Tough luck brah.
Flashed Andromeda 1.0 for my first ROM. Worked like a charm.
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Lol, it's amazing how badly some people cream their pants over bigger version numbers.
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People are people and
It's Gingerbread!!
Not sure if gingerbread is worth the risks, but I'm happy that there's lots of people trying it out so I can use a stable release in the future.
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Thats exactly it, Gingerbread.
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And exactly what is in Gingerbread that makes salivating fools out of so many?
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Not sure if gingerbread is worth the risks, but I'm happy that there's lots of people trying it out so I can use a stable release in the future.
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Yeah, but too many of those people are ending up in here looking for help when it goes bad. It just takes up space and energy better used to solve issues with actual working ROMs. Let the Devs do the development work that they're so good at.
Probably because CM is a big name dev and people think it'll be superior to what they're currently using, oh, and like it was said earlier, Gingerbread... I don't see what the huge fuss is about with Gingerbread, nothing huge has changed from Froyo and Ice Cream is already in development so I think Gingerbread will turn out to be like the early 2.0 Eclair build, something to skip over until a big update is available.
CM isn't what it used to be back in its hayday with the G1/Dream and MT3G/Magic, so I'm not sure what people are expecting... Nothing against the CM team of course, the entire team does great work even if the releases are taking a really long time compared to before.
I'll be waiting it out, if I get an official Gingerbread update for either of my phones, I'll do them, otherwise I'm going to wait for the next big update which is actually worth installing... But I agree, there seems to be a huge deal about a simple update for no apparent reason at all, Its not like the Eclair > Froyo update which improved performance by a good margin, so really, there isn't much to gain by installing Gingerbread other than a few UI improvements (which most of us won't see anyways since we all use 3rd party launchers).
Here's a perfect example of how dangerous this place can be sometimes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11894653&postcount=8
She just joined, just got a Captivate and already she's asking about flashing CM7. Apparently, none of the warnings were enough, she's willing to take the advice of absolute strangers, some who are willing to push her onward.
It's that damn lock crt-off animation. It's our generation's version of the three sirens, and instead of sail boats, we have android phones
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These forums are getting littered with people asking for help after screwing up their phones trying to install CM7. Why are people who don't know what they're doing trying to install a ROM that is not yet fully functional? This should be left to devs who are trying to fix issues, not people who need their phones to work. I just don't get it.
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I haven't flashed it because I don't know what I'm doing, scared and too lazy to start messing with odin or the like, but I understand the urge. By all accounts it's stable enough. I'll probably give it a go within a few days. At which point, if I brick my phone, I'll get a new one and consider it a learning experience. Plus, based on what I read yesterday it's never going to be as simple as updating a .zip anyway, so I might as well cross that bridge sooner rather than later.
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It's that damn lock crt-off animation. It's our generation's version of the three sirens, and instead of sail boats, we have android phones
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And yes, I'm not one bit ashamed of lusting for the obvious the gimmick. Gingerbread CRT out animation alone would be worth the risk, tbh, much less the whole gingerbread rom.
If people refuse to heed warnings, its their own fault.
As for Gingerbread, I can't speak for the others, but I want SIP support.
JVM improvements
Gingerbread claimed to have faster garbage collection and OpenGL among other things. It will probably have bigger memory footprint on a downside.
I will wait til Audience noise suppression support is there, which is likely never.
I will probably try it when Voodoo Sound and OC/UV are in the kernel, and all major bugs fixed. This likely to happen with the help of Galaxy S community.
I don't get the attitude towards being more AOSPish. AOSP is already out there. It is Samsung Captivate which needs native driver support to have all its internals fully functional.
I keep Torch 1.5 as a workhorse for now.
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I haven't flashed it because I don't know what I'm doing, scared and too lazy to start messing with odin or the like, but I understand the urge. By all accounts it's stable enough. I'll probably give it a go within a few days. At which point, if I brick my phone, I'll get a new one and consider it a learning experience. Plus, based on what I read yesterday it's never going to be as simple as updating a .zip anyway, so I might as well cross that bridge sooner rather than later.
And yes, I'm not one bit ashamed of lusting for the obvious the gimmick. Gingerbread CRT out animation alone would be worth the risk, tbh, much less the whole gingerbread rom.
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Yes, that cursed crt animation. Was drooling over it on preview vid.
The risk of bricking my everyday phone w/o a jig prevents me from doing so.
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.
bravomail said:
Gingerbread claimed to have faster garbage collection and OpenGL among other things. It will probably have bigger memory footprint on a downside.
I will wait til Audience noise suppression support is there, which is likely never.
I will probably try it when Voodoo Sound and OC/UV are in the kernel, and all major bugs fixed. This likely to happen with the help of Galaxy S community.
I don't get the attitude towards being more AOSPish. AOSP is already out there. It is Samsung Captivate which needs native driver support to have all its internals fully functional.
I keep Torch 1.5 as a workhorse for now.
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There is no aosp for the captivate. Cm is built from actual source compared to piece together roms...which have been good by the way. And why create a thread about cm7 and peoples motives for flashing? Its new...that's why I flashed it! I have never used cm before so I personally wanted to see what it was like. It is the best rom I have used for speed without any lagfix. People have started flashing phones since I have been a member with no experience...it is going to stay that way. It hasn't just started with cm.
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There is no aosp for the captivate. Cm is built from actual source compared to piece together roms...which have been good by the way. And why create a thread about cm7 and peoples motives for flashing? Its new...that's why I flashed it! I have never used cm before so I personally wanted to see what it was like. It is the best rom I have used for speed without any lagfix. People have started flashing phones since I have been a member with no experience...it is going to stay that way. It hasn't just started with cm.
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True, but while every ROM has its share of issues, I see more posts from people who tried to flash CM7 and had it go horribly wrong than any other. It is a completely different animal as far as flashing goes.
The development seems like it is almost at a stand still. I was expecting to have at least MIUI by now. The 2X seems to be doing a lot better w/ dev. And the ROMs that are out seem like they have already been abandoned. I was really looking forward to Ultimate as well.
Anyone else noticing this?
I read somewhere that jumanface is working on MIUI. Also, we have nightlies for cm and two froyo mods and two kernel devs. These guys have lives as well and without gingerbread source and froyo being olds news these days, it is what it is.
I have seen quite a bit of development considering that a lot of their work may have to be completely redone when the official GB update drops. It stalled with the rumors of its impending release. They were poised to pick up the update and get their ROMs out as quickly as possible. With it not dropping and no real date you are seeing things pick up a bit again independent of what LG/TMO does or doesn't do.
I see Faux and Krylon360 in their threads all the time. Makes me wonder were they get the time to reply AND develop. There are several other developers getting donations or asking for a deal on a phone in the general section. We should see those people jump into the fray soon as well. CM just made an announcement and is obviously working on the G2X. There are just some larger hurdles than on some other devices at the moment.
Yep, development slowed, I believe, due to the Announced Gingerbread drop. The drop will bring (hopefully) a new kernel (though the devs have that pretty much covered) and more importantly better drivers.
That said, the CM team isn't slowing down to wait for the drop and it looks like they solved the one big remaining issue....the wonky battery meter.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128841
And has been said several other developers are eager to jump in once they have a development device....notably BirgerTime & Whitehawkx of vibrant fame. We could all help development immensely by donating our Monday morning coffee money...
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127338
And remember porting from the 2x (g2x's sister device) should be fairly straight forward after we get rolling (probably after GB).
So, while I understand your concern, I really don't think there is anything to worry about development wise.
Yeah you make a good point. GB ROMs I am not too worried about. I am staying away from the nightlies because they tend to be unstable. I was looking forward to Team Whiskey, but theirs had the same problem CM7 has and it hasn't been updated for many weeks. So I am currently using Ultimate. I just miss my MIUI I had on my Vibrant.
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Yeah you make a good point. GB ROMs I am not too worried about. I am staying away from the nightlies because they tend to be unstable. I was looking forward to Team Whiskey, but theirs had the same problem CM7 has and it hasn't been updated for many weeks. So I am currently using Ultimate. I just miss my MIUI I had on my Vibrant.
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Ah but when we get MIUI it will be GB based...more specifically MIUI is AOSP based and Faux's ASOP is coming along nicely...you can't make an omelet until you have the egg.
That said, work has begun on a MIUI port....Link: http://forums.miuiandroid.com/forumdisplay.php?52-LG-Optimus-2X-G2X
In short....we will get it. Patience, Grasshopper...patience.
any news about a sense 3.0 rom????
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any news about a sense 3.0 rom????
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Yeah it's called 'sensation'
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flaronb6 said:
any news about a sense 3.0 rom????
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Why do you want a sense rom. Get a sensation then
Development haven't slowed just that devs like krylon works more then one device at once
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Suprah said:
Why do you want a sense rom. Get a sensation then
Development haven't slowed just that devs like krylon works more then one device at once
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Really, dude? The guy can't want a Sense ROM and love the g2x hardware? Not picking a fight, but you throw a lot of acid (I'm guilty of that myself on occasion).
(to the guy that asked about Sense...it's not likely unless HTC releases a phone with very similar hardware to the g2x)
And some releases have slowed....partially BECAUSE developers, like Krylon, work on more than one device at a time (and that's a GOOD thing). The pending release of GB has also, in my estimation, played a part. But mostly it's the nature of the beast. Even when development is ongoing (as I'm sure it is) releases come in bursts. There may be a pause where it appears no development is happening. While behind the scenes the dev is working on something big (and more time consuming). And let's not forget the devs have lives...coding us a better Android (for free) may not be at the top of their to do list on a given week.
Anyway, while I also perceive a slight lull in the action...I see NO problem with our development situation. I'm actually VERY excited about it considering the talent we have involved.
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Really, dude? The guy can't want a Sense ROM and love the g2x hardware? Not picking a fight, but you throw a lot of acid (I'm guilty of that myself on occasion).
(to the guy that asked about Sense...it's not likely unless HTC releases a phone with very similar hardware to the g2x)
And some releases have slowed....partially BECAUSE developers, like Krylon, work on more than one device at a time (and that's a GOOD thing). The pending release of GB has also, in my estimation, played a part. But mostly it's the nature of the beast. Even when development is ongoing (as I'm sure it is) releases come in bursts. There may be a pause where it appears no development is happening. While behind the scenes the dev is working on something big (and more time consuming). And let's not forget the devs have lives...coding us a better Android (for free) may not be at the top of their to do list on a given week.
Anyway, while I also perceive a slight lull in the action...I see NO problem with our development situation. I'm actually VERY excited about it considering the talent we have involved.
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+1 totally agree
Folks... double-edged sword here. The CEO of my company wants a phone with a big screen, and came to me for input. He's not interested in an iPhone (not sure why, but I didn't press the matter), and is open to Android. I've been using a Captivate for 9 months and have played around with tons of ROMs for that device, so I know the pitfalls with custom ROMs.
My question for you all is this: if you had to recommend a ROM for the Infuse, what would it be (including stock ATT&T)? He's pretty much the typical CEO, with the added bonus of being fairly approachable and willing to try new things. But I CANNOT piss him off. He's the CEO, after all.
Thanks!
I'd look for something by GTG, Entropy or LinuxBozo in the development section. They all look good to me. Go with something like stock but with additional features. Noone needs CM7 on their first android.
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I'd look for something by GTG, Entropy or LinuxBozo in the development section. They all look good to me. Go with something like stock but with additional features. Noone needs CM7 on their first android.
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Thanks for the quick response. Have you any personal experience with any of them?
I'd suggest one of the initial Infused ROMs like 1.5.3. I know that's only going to be Froyo, but I think that would be more usable and stable for his uses than trying to go with one of the current Gingerbread builds. I doubt he's going to want to keep up with updates unless he's surprisingly tech savvy.
I'd go with infused 1.5.0 and personally still use 1.5.0 (no loopy, no slightly weird haptic feedback stuff that my phone got in 1.5.3)
+1 on infused 1.5.0. 1.5.3 does have a weird thing going on with haptic feedback. but loopy smoothness makes a difference, so maybe that could be added.
I also think the stable release of infused v2 is good. but if he hopes to use the hdmi mhl adapter then its a no-go. v2 is rogers based and they didn't get hdmi capabilities in canada for some odd reason. also the att rom and modem get better speeds, even after the "fix" I don't get quite the transfer rates that the att firmware offered but gingerbread seems to have much improved browsing performance so its not a big deal to me. other than that I can't think of any issues with it.
I'd say Infused 1.x. If he REALLY wants Gingerbread, Infused 2.x, but that's still a work in progress. Infused 2.x is my "daily driver" but it has some known issues. (I just don't care about said issues as they don't affect me - I'm still trying to help fix them if I can. Data speeds I can't work on as I live in the boonies, we've only had 3G for two years!)
There are no ROMs from Bozo and I - we're kernel hackers. (Exception: LB is working on a CM7 port but it is NOWHERE near ready).
Actually, any of the Froyo ROMs are very solid. There's only one Gingerbread ROM out now.
The nice thing about the Infuse is that our devs coordinate with each other. As a result, in terms of ROMs and Kernels, currently it's "quality not quantity". We don't have any "hey look I can deodex too!" ROMs. (at least not yet)
I'm loving Infused v2 and use the Bluetooth pairing daily in my car. Its been as stable, if not moreso, than stock. The browser also doesn't checkerboard like stock did - which is a big win if you're looking forward to browsing the web on this huge screen.
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I'd say Infused 1.x. If he REALLY wants Gingerbread, Infused 2.x, but that's still a work in progress. Infused 2.x is my "daily driver" but it has some known issues. (I just don't care about said issues as they don't affect me - I'm still trying to help fix them if I can. Data speeds I can't work on as I live in the boonies, we've only had 3G for two years!)
There are no ROMs from Bozo and I - we're kernel hackers. (Exception: LB is working on a CM7 port but it is NOWHERE near ready).
Actually, any of the Froyo ROMs are very solid. There's only one Gingerbread ROM out now.
The nice thing about the Infuse is that our devs coordinate with each other. As a result, in terms of ROMs and Kernels, currently it's "quality not quantity". We don't have any "hey look I can deodex too!" ROMs. (at least not yet)
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well there is that one guy working on CM7 (but you have to compile it yourself)
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well there is that one guy working on CM7 (but you have to compile it yourself)
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You quoted me, but you clearly didn't read what you quoted...
I thought discussion of "best" rom was forbidden on xda?
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You quoted me, but you clearly didn't read what you quoted...
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probably only skimmed it and saw "one" and "gingerbread rom" and mixed things the wrong way.
whoops.
Thanks for your input folks!
I really appreciate the input from everyone. Methinks I'll try Infused based on what you all have said. Here goes nuttin....
I know my post count is low... but I am a senior level dude w/ 10 years at my current company and am speaking from personal experience here (albeit from the iOS side). Unless your CEO is capable of flashing ROMs and troubleshooting issues on his own, my advice is to leave it bone stock. Show him some cool apps on the Market, point him to XDA, answer questions that he may have, hell maybe even suggest checking out the dev section and looking into aftermarket ROMs. But once you modify his phone, it now becomes your responsibility and CEOs work 24x7x365...
I guess I'm just really surprised that I'm the only one here who thinks this might be a bad idea, and maybe I'm just an old fart but I just wanted to provide some experience from the flip side of the coin. I assume you've already flashed - so good luck man!
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Data speeds I can't work on as I live in the boonies, we've only had 3G for two years!)
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We just got 3g about 8 months ago...
Also, no development occurs in a one Rom per niche town. That's not a good thing that there are no can deodex too Roms.
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I know my post count is low... but I am a senior level dude w/ 10 years at my current company and am speaking from personal experience here (albeit from the iOS side). Unless your CEO is capable of flashing ROMs and troubleshooting issues on his own, my advice is to leave it bone stock. Show him some cool apps on the Market, point him to XDA, answer questions that he may have, hell maybe even suggest checking out the dev section and looking into aftermarket ROMs. But once you modify his phone, it now becomes your responsibility and CEOs work 24x7x365...
I guess I'm just really surprised that I'm the only one here who thinks this might be a bad idea, and maybe I'm just an old fart but I just wanted to provide some experience from the flip side of the coin. I assume you've already flashed - so good luck man!
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agree.
If you or your boss can handle any issue that may arise,say,boot loops
If you both are noobs then stick with stock.
bahumut075 said:
I know my post count is low... but I am a senior level dude w/ 10 years at my current company and am speaking from personal experience here (albeit from the iOS side). Unless your CEO is capable of flashing ROMs and troubleshooting issues on his own, my advice is to leave it bone stock. Show him some cool apps on the Market, point him to XDA, answer questions that he may have, hell maybe even suggest checking out the dev section and looking into aftermarket ROMs. But once you modify his phone, it now becomes your responsibility and CEOs work 24x7x365...
I guess I'm just really surprised that I'm the only one here who thinks this might be a bad idea, and maybe I'm just an old fart but I just wanted to provide some experience from the flip side of the coin. I assume you've already flashed - so good luck man!
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I could not agree more. I am a Senior IT Support Engineer and my CEO is a gadget guy who has to have to the newest toys. I would NEVER load a custom ROM on one of his devices EVER as this would put me in a very bad position especially if his device suddenly started acting flakey. Keep it stock and show him some apps and he will be perfectly happy using the phone and if you are like me get him to buy you an Infuse and you can play around with yours and when you find a good stable platform then upgrade his device to that. I always get an identical device to the CEO because he wants me to be able to assist him with issues. I know everyone isn't as lucky as me but it can sometimes be a serious PIA as he will call me constantly with stupid questions.
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I could not agree more. I am a Senior IT Support Engineer and my CEO is a gadget guy who has to have to the newest toys. I would NEVER load a custom ROM on one of his devices EVER as this would put me in a very bad position especially if his device suddenly started acting flakey. Keep it stock and show him some apps and he will be perfectly happy using the phone and if you are like me get him to buy you an Infuse and you can play around with yours and when you find a good stable platform then upgrade his device to that. I always get an identical device to the CEO because he wants me to be able to assist him with issues. I know everyone isn't as lucky as me but it can sometimes be a serious PIA as he will call me constantly with stupid questions.
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+1 to Stock.
Unless he and you want to be tinkering all the time with each other.
Go for refuse 1.7. Good first ROM
Agreed on staying stock
Believe it or not, I was seriously considering staying stock anyway (for all the stated reasons), but wanted to get an idea of what some of the 'better' (a highly subjective term, I know) ROMs were based on people's opinions, as a means of comparison. Fortunately for me, he got called out of town so I now have a week to live with the device for awhile and learn it's idiosyncrasies and whatnot.
So, unless stock proves to suck, (which I doubt), I'll keep it that way.
Thanks all for your input.
I recently upgraded from Vibrant to SGS4G and I'm very satisfied overall (I hate that changing Rom's isn't as simple a process as it was on the Vibrant). Even though I know the hardware is nearly the same, my experience on the SGS4G has been much smoother: less lag, snappier performance, better battery life... even a higher Quadrant score (1600+ vs 1200+).
I haven't sold my Vibrant yet, so I thought I'd try ICS--man, what a mistake! It's so slick that it hurts to go back to my now seemingly-clunky SGS4G. I'd have been better off not knowing what I was missing.
So why does it seem like there is no work being done on an ICS port for the SGS4G? Is it because the phone is less popular than the Vibrant (less handsets out in the wild)? Or has everyone just moved on? And if the Vibrant and SGS4G are so similar, why can't the Vibrant port be modded somehow for the SGS4G? I'd do it myself if I had the time and the know-how...
In any case, would putting some cash up spur some developers to get a working ICS rom for the SGS4G? I know I'd be willing to kick in $20 and I'm sure there are plenty of other people on the forums who would do the same.
ICS will be available once the search feature gets fixed. Seems a lot of sgs4g users are having issues with using it.
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what search feature?
I think it was a subtle attempt at humor, in reference to the search feature for XDA forums. Meaning that the topic has already been brought up. You know, the typical sarcastic response that has nothing to do with the post.
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I recently upgraded from Vibrant to SGS4G and I'm very satisfied overall (I hate that changing Rom's isn't as simple a process as it was on the Vibrant). Even though I know the hardware is nearly the same, my experience on the SGS4G has been much smoother: less lag, snappier performance, better battery life... even a higher Quadrant score (1600+ vs 1200+).
I haven't sold my Vibrant yet, so I thought I'd try ICS--man, what a mistake! It's so slick that it hurts to go back to my now seemingly-clunky SGS4G. I'd have been better off not knowing what I was missing.
So why does it seem like there is no work being done on an ICS port for the SGS4G? Is it because the phone is less popular than the Vibrant (less handsets out in the wild)? Or has everyone just moved on? And if the Vibrant and SGS4G are so similar, why can't the Vibrant port be modded somehow for the SGS4G? I'd do it myself if I had the time and the know-how...
In any case, would putting some cash up spur some developers to get a working ICS rom for the SGS4G? I know I'd be willing to kick in $20 and I'm sure there are plenty of other people on the forums who would do the same.
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The two really are only similar in looks. The vibrant was much more popular so it had a lot more dev support. I also am willing to kick in $20 for the cause.
when i move to cali and make my super computer in a month or so maybe raver and i can start something and get help from the legends aka krylon
Because if you give the people what they want, all you get is more *****ing and moaning about how broken it is.
If you hold back and only give people what they need, they only ***** and moan about what they want and ignore the fact that what they have is broken to all hell
<3 OEM/ISP's and their inability to give serious time to updates
Most of the time the reason we don't have an update ( Like ICS ) is because we're waiting for the underlying sourcecode from the OEM for that version of Android. IE: why did we have to wait so long before we got GB ?
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when i move to cali and make my super computer in a month or so maybe raver and i can start something and get help from the legends aka krylon
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damm right lol
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when i move to cali and make my super computer in a month or so maybe raver and i can start something and get help from the legends aka krylon
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the krylon rumors have been circulating since we got official GB.... if only they were true. I hope they will be some day
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How is it I have a g1... a g mf'n 1 running jellly bean. And this damn sidekick is stuck on 2.1........ wtf? Samsung can lick the boo sack noodo fo sho
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Lmao, boo sack. Funniest asian guy ever. But, I digress. Yeah, it's because the source was a mess. The people who happened to be interested in the phone aren't mature mostly. Most of the userbase of the Sidekick 4G are teenagers/kids. (It's always how it's been since it was released, it was nothing but a fad.) Most teens tend to not know how to program at an early age, (though there are some who can). Personally, my Galaxy S II has Jelly Bean 4.1.1 and has been receiving upgrades since Gingerbread 2.3.6, including 4.0.1, 4.0.3, and as of today, 4.0.4. The reason this is the case is because this phone is generally bought more in stores. Companies are willing to spend more time and money if they are in-turn making money on a phone. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)
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Lmao, boo sack. Funniest asian guy ever. But, I digress. Yeah, it's because the source was a mess. The people who happened to be interested in the phone aren't mature mostly. Most of the userbase of the Sidekick 4G are teenagers/kids. (It's always how it's been since it was released, it was nothing but a fad.) Most teens tend to not know how to program at an early age, (though there are some who can). Personally, my Galaxy S II has Jelly Bean 4.1.1 and has been receiving upgrades since Gingerbread 2.3.6, including 4.0.1, 4.0.3, and as of today, 4.0.4. The reason this is the case is because this phone is generally bought more in stores. Companies are willing to spend more time and money if they are in-turn making money on a phone. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)
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It's the same story on the SGH-T959V side (Galaxy S 4G). The two phones seem to be marketed at parents with teenagers.
Our forums get flooded with demanding unknowledgeable (and they don't seek knowledge either) teenagers, and we have very few device developers.
Galaxy S 4G was lucky to get Gingerbread. Sadly, I was hoping SK4G would also at least get gingerbread, but it got stuck on froyo.
There is a glimmer of hope. If you search some of code in the Galaxy S 4G's source drop, you find mentions of sidekick in there.
Search this file for SIDEKICK. The difference between the Galaxy S 4G and Captivate Gingerbread source drop are very little (although they are very different devices and take very different paths in the code).
So the sk4g is still an aries device and imho, can at least get a gingerbread port.
Galaxy S 4G has been ported to CM9, AOKP, SlimICS, Gummy (when it existed, not so much now), and a few other GB and ICS based "from source" roms. So GB and ICS should still be possible on SK4G. And I know we plan on porting JB after we finalize the sgs4g to aries kernel port, and since SK4G and SGS4G hardware is similiar (plus or minus a few components) SK4G should be able to run JB.
It will all just take a little time.
bhundven said:
It's the same story on the SGH-T959V side (Galaxy S 4G). The two phones seem to be marketed at parents with teenagers.
Our forums get flooded with demanding unknowledgeable (and they don't seek knowledge either) teenagers, and we have very few device developers.
Galaxy S 4G was lucky to get Gingerbread. Sadly, I was hoping SK4G would also at least get gingerbread, but it got stuck on froyo.
There is a glimmer of hope. If you search some of code in the Galaxy S 4G's source drop, you find mentions of sidekick in there.
Search this file for SIDEKICK. The difference between the Galaxy S 4G and Captivate Gingerbread source drop are very little (although they are very different devices and take very different paths in the code).
So the sk4g is still an aries device and imho, can at least get a gingerbread port.
Galaxy S 4G has been ported to CM9, AOKP, SlimICS, Gummy (when it existed, not so much now), and a few other GB and ICS based "from source" roms. So GB and ICS should still be possible on SK4G. And I know we plan on porting JB after we finalize the sgs4g to aries kernel port, and since SK4G and SGS4G hardware is similiar (plus or minus a few components) SK4G should be able to run JB.
It will all just take a little time.
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Haha man, I like you. You're right on the ball and damn heck of a lot better experienced than me by eons. But yeah, Windixi
s source is lying around, do you have it yet? I can get it for you if you don't have it.
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Haha man, I like you. You're right on the ball and damn heck of a lot better experienced than me by eons. But yeah, Windixi
s source is lying around, do you have it yet? I can get it for you if you don't have it.
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He has some interesting ways of getting things to work.
There is more then one way to skin a cat.
Ahh, and yes.. 4.0.4 would be delicious on the sidekick 4G, is it possible? I or is the hardware difficult to deal with? I'm thinking of learning how 2 become a dev myself
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Im never buying another product with the name sidekick in it, it just gets abandoned. Like a prom dress, wear in once then lose it.
insanedrunk said:
Im never buying another product with the name sidekick in it, it just gets abandoned. Like a prom dress, wear in once then lose it.
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Hahaha, this happened to more then just this phone. The only reason the galaxy s 4g has anything is because me and a few other people stuck it out.
There are other phones that never got anything and were more then capable of running everything up to jellybean.
The funny thing is, I hear a lot of users get all butt-hurty because their phone doesn't have the latest greatest rom. I say: too bad.
This is xda-developers.com, not xda-pimp-my-phone.com. The developers choose which phone they want to dev on, and go for it. Sometimes they are good and sometimes they suck. If a phone doesn't have too many developers, it's kind of a sign.
It sounds like there are a few devs around here that still want to make things happen.
So I wouldn't write off the sk4g quite yet. But also, don't expect things to happen right away.
Patience.
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Hahaha, this happened to more then just this phone. The only reason the galaxy s 4g has anything is because me and a few other people stuck it out.
There are other phones that never got anything and were more then capable of running everything up to jellybean.
The funny thing is, I hear a lot of users get all butt-hurty because their phone doesn't have the latest greatest rom. I say: too bad.
This is xda-developers.com, not xda-pimp-my-phone.com. The developers choose which phone they want to dev on, and go for it. Sometimes they are good and sometimes they suck. If a phone doesn't have too many developers, it's kind of a sign.
It sounds like there are a few devs around here that still want to make things happen.
So I wouldn't write off the sk4g quite yet. But also, don't expect things to happen right away.
Patience.
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In a nutshell. Rightly so my good man.
bhundven said:
Hahaha, this happened to more then just this phone. The only reason the galaxy s 4g has anything is because me and a few other people stuck it out.
There are other phones that never got anything and were more then capable of running everything up to jellybean.
The funny thing is, I hear a lot of users get all butt-hurty because their phone doesn't have the latest greatest rom. I say: too bad.
This is xda-developers.com, not xda-pimp-my-phone.com. The developers choose which phone they want to dev on, and go for it. Sometimes they are good and sometimes they suck. If a phone doesn't have too many developers, it's kind of a sign.
It sounds like there are a few devs around here that still want to make things happen.
So I wouldn't write off the sk4g quite yet. But also, don't expect things to happen right away.
Patience.
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Im not the type to whine when i dont have jellybean on my sk, however i do get upset this phone still has alot of problem even after running half assed roms on my phone. No real dev here yet, most likely never will be one.
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Im not the type to whine when i dont have jellybean on my sk, however i do get upset this phone still has alot of problem even after running half assed roms on my phone. No real dev here yet, most likely never will be one.
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There was. They got chased off by the ungreatfuls.
sduvick, ayoteddy for example were two of the best devs for this phone. And if it weren't for them, we'd still probably running stock-ass-retarded phones.
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There was. They got chased off by the ungreatfuls.
sduvick, ayoteddy for example were two of the best devs for this phone. And if it weren't for them, we'd still probably running stock-ass-retarded phones.
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Aggreed 100% I've been here since pretty much the release of the sk4g and the original dev teams were on the ball but had very little to work with I bet you sduvick and ay0teddy got some patchwork gb to work or at least cm6 or cm7 running on the sk4g but kept it to themselves. I've watched this forum go downhill till the official discontinuation of the phone and I'm pretty sure if I managed to get gb or ics running on my sk4g is keep it to myself with all the kanging and immaturity on here. But that's just opinion. I personally don't think the sk4g could handle ics only due to the lack of ram. The hummingbird 1Ghz processor could handle it but lack of ram would make it unbearable especially for a stock OTA.
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azcledel said:
Aggreed 100% I've been here since pretty much the release of the sk4g and the original dev teams were on the ball but had very little to work with I bet you sduvick and ay0teddy got some patchwork gb to work or at least cm6 or cm7 running on the sk4g but kept it to themselves. I've watched this forum go downhill till the official discontinuation of the phone and I'm pretty sure if I managed to get gb or ics running on my sk4g is keep it to myself with all the kanging and immaturity on here. But that's just opinion. I personally don't think the sk4g could handle ics only due to the lack of ram. The hummingbird 1Ghz processor could handle it but lack of ram would make it unbearable especially for a stock OTA.
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Nah, sgs4g has the same specs, and can handle ics just fine.
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As a matter of fact, our phone can handle Jelly Bean.
I think I should just get it over with, I'm gonna buy the Samsung galaxy s 3, forget physical keyboards exist, and throw this phone into a bucket of fresh cement.
insanedrunk said:
I think I should just get it over with, I'm gonna buy the Samsung galaxy s 3, forget physical keyboards exist, and throw this phone into a bucket of fresh cement.
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Well, if you do, don't loose your sk4g. I'm waiting for TheLastSidekick to mail his phone, then it's on like donkey kong.
Please see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31266818#post31266818
bhundven said:
Well, if you do, don't loose your sk4g. I'm waiting for TheLastSidekick to mail his phone, then it's on like donkey kong.
Please see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31266818#post31266818
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ROFL! It's funny, I make a bad habit of saying this **** online.
I thinK I can have it send out on Monday btw, not today because of Tornado watch in my county....and they don't ship on Sundays. Bhundven should have the SK4G AT MAX within 2 weeks guys.