[Q] Touchstone Charger Mod - TouchPad Accessories

So, I picked up a touchstone charger to go with my touchpad. I also have the phone touchstone charger modded to work with my Incredible. I'm curious to know if the the touchstone for the touchpad uses the same induction pieces as in the phone<->touchstone charger (phone end specifically). I would like to charge my kindle with the touchstone charger, but do not want test with either my phone or the kindle. If this is the case, the touchpad charger could be made quite useful to many things. Thanks.

I'm not sure how realistic it is, but this article was just on Engadget....
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/19/touchstone-mod-blesses-samsung-epic-4g-touch-with-inductive-char/

Ah yes. I've done this for my phone. My question is, will the touchpad version work with the same part that goes into the phone for the kindle? Something tells me the amperage is going to be higher in the touchpad version, thus killing the 1.0a for charging phones or the kindle.

i have a powermat inductive charging pad with a door for my old dx. i tried the charger with my tp but it doesnt work. I dont think there is a difference between that and the powermat

hi because I wanted to use all web os on my touchpad I decided to buy the pre 3 there is a different dock to buy , and if I look at the back of the pre 3 there's like a cell that revives power from the touchstone and then charges the battery if this even helps think there will need to build in a reciver like in the pre3 to then send power to the battery and like on the power mat they also have case that revives power for the iphone 3
dunno if this helps anyone

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alternative to the hp charging cable

I lost my wall charger that came with my HP touchpad. The round plug thingie is what I'm looking for. Searching on Amazon brings up a number of items, for example:
http://www.amazon.com/HP-North-American-Charger-TouchPad/dp/B0055QYJJM/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_3
However, is there an alternative that works? I was able to use the Evo cable rather than the original HP sync/charge cable that came with the wall charger, but is there an alternative wall plug that works as well? Paying almost $28 for a charging cable seems a bit ridiculous.
Any help and advice would be most appreciated.
[[FOUND MY ANSWER]]
I found that Walmart was having a sale on the North American charger with the barrel wall connector for $11.99 and Meritline was having a sale for 6' long USB to micro-usb cables (pair for $4.99 no tax/shipping).
The listing on the Meritline page says that the cables are compatible with the Evo.
Given that the cable that comes with the HP barrel charger is pretty much monkey spit and fails within a month, I found a solution that works for less than $20.
Links are below:
Walmart HP Touchpad charger
http://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-TouchPad-Accessory-Travel-AC-Wall-Adapter-Charger/16641536
Meritline Cables (use this code MLCK222YNL1 for discount (cannot guarantee how long this code is good for, drops the price for a twin pack of the 6' cables from $10.99 to $4.99)
http://www.meritline.com/showproduc...e=6-feet-high-speed-micro-hdmi-cable-ethernet
Pretty much any USB charger will work, but most give a notification on the Touchpad screen indicating that they may not be charging. This is because the official charger is at the high end of both voltage and current capability. I charge from laptop, desktop and a variety of Blackberry chargers with no issue, but the available current will determine how long it takes to charge and whether it charges much while the screen is on. Go for a USB charger that gives you 2 Amps and you should be fine.
dmarchant said:
Pretty much any USB charger will work, but most give a notification on the Touchpad screen indicating that they may not be charging. This is because the official charger is at the high end of both voltage and current capability. I charge from laptop, desktop and a variety of Blackberry chargers with no issue, but the available current will determine how long it takes to charge and whether it charges much while the screen is on. Go for a USB charger that gives you 2 Amps and you should be fine.
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Thank you for the advice. To be more specific, can you recommend any alternative charging cables/wall charger units specifically?
Any brand name USB charger that gives off 2 amps should be fine. I tend to stay away from really cheap generic chargers. Any microUSB cable should be fine even a generic one if it has decent reviews. I worry about generic chargers since a poorly regulated one could send a voltage too high, but generic cables should be fine.
The chargers I am currently using, as well as the one that came with the TP, are the one that came with a Blackberry Playbook and the one from my HTC Desire HD.
The Blackberry charger gives an error on the screen that it may not charge the TP, but as it gives 2 amps, charges in pretty much the same time as the official unit.
The HTC again gives the warning and takes about twice as long to charge.
what about the nook color charger i know it higher amps might work as well
cesar2010 said:
what about the nook color charger i know it higher amps might work as well
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I just tested the TP with a charger for the NC, and unfortunately, it still gives the same "may not charge" warning...
There is NO after market charger that will charge at full rate like the HP barrel charger!
At best they will trickle charge at a much lower rate and take considerably longer to charge.
The TP relies on precise signaling which it will only get from the OEM item or specially modded after market units or cables.
Do a google for further info ie webosnation.com forums.
I think your looking for a 5.1v charger, aka rapid charger. This is used by the iPad, and some android phones like the Motorola droid 3, razr and htc rezound.
I could be wrong though,I haven't gotten my touchpad yet.but I do own all said device above (except the razr) and they all use the faster charging technology.
Sent from my rezound.
Izeltokatl said:
I think your looking for a 5.1v charger, aka rapid charger. This is used by the iPad, and some android phones like the Motorola droid 3, razr and htc rezound.
I could be wrong though,I haven't gotten my touchpad yet.but I do own all said device above (except the razr) and they all use the faster charging technology.
Sent from my rezound.
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They will not work at full rate!
No one else uses 5.2 volts
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2
Don't believe all the hype about using ONLY the HP charger, there are many that do the job perfectly well. Too many people make these authoritarian statements and all they do is cause FUD.
At my office, I use the AC charger from my last Samsung phone (mythic) and it works IDENTICALLY to the OEM one. I have also used a Moto and and LG with NO PROBLEMS. I have no issues getting to fully charged in little time.
At home, my OEM cable is plugged into a high-power USB port (2.1A, I believe) and it has no problem charging from near zero to full as well. Front or top-mounted USB ports tend to be 500mA or less, but the rear ones (coming directly off the motherboard) tend to have a higher supply. I also use a non-HP USB cable occasionally and it works fine.
(I got my TP during the original fire-sale and have been charging it these ways ever since with ZERO ISSUES.)
R1ptide said:
No one else uses 5.2 volts
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2
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The small voltage difference is marginal and isn't going to matter, the internal hardware should be able to tolerate a few tenths of a volt difference. In fact, I tested my Motorola charger rated at 5.1v and the Touchpad charger rated at 5.2v on a multimeter. The Motorola charger was outputting 5.20v and the Touchpad charger 5.16v. Granted this is at no load, but switching transformers are regulated so they should supply rated voltage at any current draw equal to or less than rated. Also depending on how well the voltage is regulated there may still be a slight AC ripple that the device has to deal with.
Does anyone know the time difference between using the TP charger and a standard droid/blackberry charger? Also curious if the charges last the same. I know theoretically they should since the battery is full either way, but electricals can be tricksiy..
sirclesam said:
Does anyone know the time difference between using the TP charger and a standard droid/blackberry charger? Also curious if the charges last the same. I know theoretically they should since the battery is full either way, but electricals can be tricksiy..
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Its all down to the charge rate that the TP is able to draw.
2A which is theoretically possible from TP AC barrel charger would charge the 6A+ battery of the TP from flat to full in approximately 6.5 hours.
If the BB charger were able to have 500mA drawn by the TP then it would fully charge in approximately 26 hours.
The charges would be no different.
To convert any regular USB charger into a TouchPad charger you need to add 2 resistors as per the diagram attached.
The presence of the resistors will trigger the TouchPad to draw the full 2A from the charger rather than the trickle charge it does when they are not there.
Please do not modify a cheap charger that is only rated for 500mA as you will most likely overheat it and it could present a fire risk.
stuart_f said:
To convert any regular USB charger into a TouchPad charger you need to add 2 resistors as per the diagram attached.
The presence of the resistors will trigger the TouchPad to draw the full 2A from the charger rather than the trickle charge it does when they are not there.
Please do not modify a cheap charger that is only rated for 500mA as you will most likely overheat it and it could present a fire risk.
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Just pointing out that you need to start with a charger that is rated at least 2Ah to start with.
You can't turn a low rated one into a high rated one.
pa49 said:
Just pointing out that you need to start with a charger that is rated at least 2Ah to start with.
You can't turn a low rated one into a high rated one.
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oh, for the love of gods. REALLY? I was just asking for a replacement cable. I don't want to reinvent the charging paradigm. I just need a simple recommendation for a cable. If a thread could be highjacked any further I don't know how it could be.
I appreciate all your "advice" but seriously, this is NOT what I was asking.
Anyone know if I can get a similar cable in the UK? Kind of lost my TP cable, and I miss the flexibility the long cable gave me, it was so much easier to use on charge!
well i know that my tbolt cable works. i have to use the tp adapter though. my tbolt adapter makes the touchpad say that the charger is incompatible.

[Q] Touchstone vs Touchpad vs Qi Style Charging (Not working)

I have 2 Touchpads, and 2 Touchstone Touch Pad Chargers
I also have a Pre Touchstone (Like the hockey puck style)
I put a pre touch charger on my Galaxy S3's backplate.
This: http://www.fasttech.com/products/1154/10001946/1149700
S3 + Pre Touchstone = Charging
S3 + Touchpad Touchstone = Nothing happens on either one. (Even by moving all around)
What am I doing wrong?
AMRivlin said:
I have 2 Touchpads, and 2 Touchstone Touch Pad Chargers
I also have a Pre Touchstone (Like the hockey puck style)
I put a pre touch charger on my Galaxy S3's backplate.
This: http://www.fasttech.com/products/1154/10001946/1149700
S3 + Pre Touchstone = Charging
S3 + Touchpad Touchstone = Nothing happens on either one. (Even by moving all around)
What am I doing wrong?
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That site says the backplate is a Qi backplate. The TouchStone isnt a Qi charger. And it wouldnt work with the Touchpad's charger. I've never seen that before. Hopefully you didnt get scammed.
EDIT: After reading more, the site says that it is made for it and not Qi compatible.
"This wireless charger is not Qi-compatible:
The included back plate is custom designed to work with the Galaxy S3 on the Palm Touchstone charger.
It is compatible with Palm chargers (included) and is not compatible with Qi chargers."
I dont really know anything about that product. Sorry. Maybe they sent you a Qi backplate by mistake.
jsgraphicart said:
That site says the backplate is a Qi backplate. The TouchStone isnt a Qi charger. And it wouldnt work with the Touchpad's charger. I've never seen that before. Hopefully you didnt get scammed.
EDIT: After reading more, the site says that it is made for it and not Qi compatible.
"This wireless charger is not Qi-compatible:
The included back plate is custom designed to work with the Galaxy S3 on the Palm Touchstone charger.
It is compatible with Palm chargers (included) and is not compatible with Qi chargers."
I dont really know anything about that product. Sorry. Maybe they sent you a Qi backplate by mistake.
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No the touchstones are original factory.
The backplate uses the touchstone standard (and it works on the touchstone)
What doesnt work is the touchpad touchstone. at all.
AMRivlin said:
No the touchstones are original factory.
The backplate uses the touchstone standard (and it works on the touchstone)
What doesnt work is the touchpad touchstone. at all.
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Oh. So the Pre Touchstone works. I missed that part. The Touchpad touchstone wont work. I believe the charging connection in that Touchstone is on the very bottom lip. Not the back that stands the Tablet up. So to charge on that, the connection on your phone would have to be on the sides of your device.
Hey
I'm a little confused, but recently got a Touchstone for my touchpad,
Was wondering if there was a way to get my Galaxy Note 2 charged by it ?
If I understood it right from this topic, no hope ?
Thanks
Hi Guys,
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but just wondering... does the Palm Pre Touchstone (hockey puc style/shape) work with the HP Touchpads...? Or is it different technology??
My HP Touchpad is dead, and I dont want to buy the official Touchstone if its not gonna make a blind bit of difference, where as the Palm Pre (puc style) is like half the price...
I wasn't even aware the Touchpads were wireless charging capable...?? What type of technology is the Touchpad wireless charger?? I have a wireless charging pad from another phone here, and wondered if that would work?? I will look out the model of my wireless charger later to see if its compatible....
Nokia DT-601
https://www.nokia.com/en_int/.../Nokia_Wireless_Charger_DT-601_UG_en_GB.pdf
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nokia-Universal-Wireless-Charging-Compatible-Blue/dp/B00GZL1SL8
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Cheers, Lister
If you want to wireless charge the TouchPad, you need the official wireless charger. It works well. It's the only reason I still use the touchpad... no idea why other companies don't make something just like it.
Hwy guys i have a touchpad lying around and there seems to be no chargers or touchstone available in my country to buy,i was wondering if there's an altenative for the touchstone ? will 3rd party wireless chargers work ?
Leo Deepak said:
Hwy guys i have a touchpad lying around and there seems to be no chargers or touchstone available in my country to buy,i was wondering if there's an altenative for the touchstone ? will 3rd party wireless chargers work ?
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There is no alternative for the Touchstone, just the barrel charger. Get one rated for at least 2.1 amps. .
shumash said:
There is no alternative for the Touchstone, just the barrel charger. Get one rated for at least 2.1 amps. .
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but it says "to reliably charge use the cable and power adapter that came with your device" after i charge it for a while,and turns off
Leo Deepak said:
but it says "to reliably charge use the cable and power adapter that came with your device" after i charge it for a while,and turns off
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Ignore it. I've been charging my Touchpads with generic chargers for years. Just make sure it is output rated for 2 amps (2000 ma) or greater @ 5 volts

Qi Wireless Charging Kit turns on and off repeatedly

I bought a generic Qi wireless charging kit. It has a white receiver which you open up the back cover of the galaxy s4 and then fit the prongs in place. Then closed the back cover and put it on my charger pad. The charger pad is powered by my OEM Samsung 2A output adapter so that should be plenty of power. There are two lights, one red that is constantly on which I assume is the power light. The other light is green, but it flashes. I'm not sure if it is supposed to do this, but pretty sure it is not as my phone will display a popup notification that wireless charging is enabled. One second later, the popup is gone and the battery icon no longer shows the thunderbolt charging symbol. Another second later, the notification comes back and the battery icon shows the thunderbolt charging symbol. So both the charger pad flashes and my phone's notification and battery charger icon appear and disappear every few seconds repeatedly, anyone know what is going on?
Kind of hard to tell without seeing which one you specifically have. Got any links? Have you made a good connection with the contacts on the back of the phone? And are you placing the phone in a good spot on the charger? I have 2 qi receivers like yours and I don't have these problems unless I'm using the official nexus wireless charger. I think the magnets in it do something to offset it. I have another wireless charging pad and I don't have these problems at all.
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Kind of hard to tell without seeing which one you specifically have. Got any links? Have you made a good connection with the contacts on the back of the phone? And are you placing the phone in a good spot on the charger? I have 2 qi receivers like yours and I don't have these problems unless I'm using the official nexus wireless charger. I think the magnets in it do something to offset it. I have another wireless charging pad and I don't have these problems at all.
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I actually do have the link: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/181216698737...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
I made sure to buy the GS4 i9500 and almost certain this is a right purchase as the prongs fit perfectly. Based on the instructions, the actual charger is under the symbol/icon, which I have tried to place perfectly. Heck, I tried so many spots with no success. I'm not sure if the receiver is faulty or if the charge pad is faulty. I'm looking into a ChoeTech and Incipio Qi charger right now as its around 30 bucks and have quite some positive reviews.
Well that thing is one of the thicker ones. And I've never liked the design of it. I'd definitely switch receivers. Then chargers if you problem still occurs.
1. check to make sure the contacts on the receiver are not getting disconnected inside the phone.
2. you need to find the sweet spot on your pad when you put your phone on it
Well, I'm in the process of getting a refund on eBay. Guess I'll have to go for a more branded charger instead of some no-name generic.

[Q] best qi set up ?

Just wondering the best set up for qi, receiver and pad that work well together. Thanks guys
bazz7777777 said:
Just wondering the best set up for qi, receiver and pad that work well together. Thanks guys
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Technically, any receiver will work well with any charger. The thing you need to look for is a charger that can output 5V at 1A. Pretty much every charger will have that rating so it's hard to mess that one up. As far as the receiver goes, the higher the current output the better (measured in "ma"). And by "better" I mean the phone will charge faster. I have a 1A (1000ma) receiver in my Note 4. It charges pretty quickly, but interferes with NFC. Also, a higher current for a receiver typically means it will also be thicker, making the back of your phone bulge more.
Which charger and receiver are the most durable/well built is a much more difficult question to answer as there are so many to pick from. Just think about how you want to use it, do you want your phone tilted up at you while it's charging? Do you want a super grippy pad so your phone won't walk off the pad when it vibrates? Do you want it to be portable like the mobile pal 2 in 1? The best charger for you will be dependant on how you answer those questions.
Similar questions need to be asked for the receiver. Do you want it to work with NFC? Will you generally just use wireless charging to charge overnight? If so you can get away with a smaller, lower current receiver since you won't need quick charging. If you'll be charging throughout the day you'll want to get a receiver with a higher current rating.
Well, that answer was longer than I originally intended. But I hope it helps!
Thanks TM that's a lot to go on. But a lot of useful information
From my research online, the CHOETECH Stadium seems to be one of the best rated chargers (if you're not going for the official Samsung setup). I've ordered one and am awaiting its arrival, along with the FoneSalesman N4 SlimPWRCard.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00JA7HNZO
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00OFKS66G
The CHOETECH Stadium has 3 coils as opposed to some chargers that only have one - from what I've read that makes for faster charging and less problems positioning the phone correctly. This is my first foray into wireless charging though, so I'm only repeating what I've read online, not speaking from experience
I use fonesalesman powercard, and my trusty Nokia Qi charger. The thing is you have to find the right spot for the Qi receiver and charger to line up, then it will charge as it should.
Please report backs kinsman when you get chance to try it out thanks
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Please report backs kinsman when you get chance to try it out thanks
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Will do - but sorry, it might be the end of the month before I have a chance to test this all and report back, due to other commitments
I'm using a modified official wireless cover (removed guts) and the tylt vu. It works really well for me.
trussrules said:
I'm using a modified official wireless cover (removed guts) and the tylt vu. It works really well for me.
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That tylt stand looks nice
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Will do - but sorry, it might be the end of the month before I have a chance to test this all and report back, due to other commitments
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No problem
If anybody interested I went with this set up in the end. 3 coils in stand so works very well
Kosee Qi Smart Wireless Charging Cradle Stand for Samsung Galaxy Note 4 by Kosee http:/
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OZQOK42/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_-sskvb0WEQSDV
bazz7777777 said:
If anybody interested I went with this set up in the end. 3 coils in stand so works very well
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Glad you got sorted out and it's working well. Just got the CHOETECH Stadium (which is also 3 coils) set up and the FoneSalesman N4 SlimPWRCard installed. So far very impressed - the card is unnoticeable except for that slight bulging below the flash, which isn't really visible at all in a case. You can basically 'throw' the phone down onto the charging pad without having to worry too much about positioning. So far I have only used the CHOETECH connected to a PC USB port, not a wall adapter, but even at that, with the phone powered on, I got 10% of charge in an hour (65%-75%). Expecting even better results tonight with the CHOETECH plugged into the Samsung charger and the phone off. In any case, it's great to have that trickle charge while you're sitting working at the computer, without having to plug in. Yay for wireless charging
EDIT: Got just over 10% in half an hour with the charger plugged into the Samsung adaptor, and charging through a UAG case. :good:
EDIT 2: Charged phone overnight from 1% to 100%, it took approximately 5 hours. Good thing is there were no beeps or sounds from either the phone or the charger, and no noticeable 'hum' from the charger either - so good for bedside usage

Fast wireless qi back cover or pad... Does it exist for our phones?

Looking for a back cover OR a qi "pad" that fits inside the phone that ALSO takes advantage of fast charging qi. Not the standard rate of wireless charging. Thanks
I haven't seen anything but cheap stuff. Perhaps phone doesn't support fast charging via those contacts on the back. Also I don't see anyone developing such a thing for an outdated phone.
The Note 4 doesn't support Fast Charging on wireless charger. If you do put it on a Wireless Fast Charging pad, it will charge at normal speed. I actually tried this with a Samsung wireless Fast Charging pad and a Samsung Note 4 S-view case made for wireless charging. In order to use wireless charging on the Note 4, you have to have a case or battery cover that supports wireless charging. Or, you can get one of the wireless charging receivers available on Amazon, eBay or elsewhere. I haven't tried one of the receivers, though a friend did. He had mixed luck getting it to charge at regular speed. Apparently not all receivers are made accurately enough to touch the necessary contracts on the case and phone.
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S-view case + fast charge pad
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How does the combo Fast charge Samsung pad and S-View wireless combo work together? I mean, does it heat up the phone and how fast does it approximately charge? Thanks.
The one of the wireless chargers I use made the phone too hot for my liking. The other one seemed to work fine. Haven't tried the Samsun ones. I had a wireless charging pad initially on the back of my phone, but I popped the back off enough times and it always felt like it was bulging out a little, so gave the old s-view case to a friend, and bought the one where it was integrated. Works great. But yeah, I don't think it supports the fast charging.
I've using this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/301400816942?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT, for over a month. I'm using it with a "normal" samsung reciever, it works well, the phone doesn't get too hot, but the charging speed is far from fast charging, so, it is more like a gimmick.
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How does the combo Fast charge Samsung pad and S-View wireless combo work together? I mean, does it heat up the phone and how fast does it approximately charge? Thanks.
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It works well. Not fast, but it also doesn't heat up the phone. That's the reason I got it. I didn't really time it, but I would expect it to charge at the standard 1 Amp/hr. So, about 3-4 hours if the phone was totally dead. I got it because my phone was over-heating with the fast charger that came with it. I got my charger as an open box at my local Microcenter. However, Amazon has them for around $20-50, depending on if it's the Fast charger or the standard one. One thing I would look at carefully is whether the Samsung wireless chargers at Amazon are real OEM Samsung, or fake. The wireless S-view case I got came from Amazon. It was in Samsung retail packaging and sealed. It was around $31.50 and new. Fortunately I got it with Amazon Prime shipping for free shipping. I just checked, though, and the prices have gone up to over $40. There is one for $33-$34. Another possibility is buying the "battery charging system." It is basically a battery charging case, a new battery and a carrying case for your spare battery. I got it from Sprint for around $25 + tax. The shipping was free. You have to use your own charger with it. It seems less likely to overheat. It has been better for me to have the extra battery. I think I mentioned that I had gotten my Note 4 replaced under TEP, as it was over-heating. I think it was that particular phone that hated the first update to MM. OTOH, my replacement Note 4 has been very happy on PG1, which was on it when I got it. I usually make it through the day with a charge left on the battery I started with. I carry my spare in case. It hasn't overheated. I am hesitant to use Fast Charging, if I don't have to. I believe Fast Charging is more apt to overheat the phone and battery, and probably shorten the life of the battery, if not the phone as well.
are all the s-view cases supporting Qi charging? how can I tell if one does before I buy it? how many contact pins will it have?
thanks!
I use the following 3rd party Qi charging back, and although it is a tight fit, it seems to work well and says it supports 650ma output via the charging pins. It also says that it supports s-view function, but I don't have a s-view case to test with.
Again it is a tight fit, but if you put it on from the bottom first, it can be massaged on.
https://www.amazon.com/H-ber-Portab...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=GHAAGMSYBCFYFHBARHR7

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