[Q] Backup apps an keeping data between ROM Flashes - HTC Sensation

Hi,
Being fairly new to the sensation and with the wide choice of ROMs that have been developed, I am keen to try a few of them out.
However after installing Titanium Backup it says unable to acquire root privileges (this is after flashing ARHD), I was under the impression that ROMs came rooted? This also happened after i had rooted following the guide in the development section. Anyway im back to stock ROM for the moment but i am just wondering how i can back everything up on the stock ROM for when i next decide to flash say InsertCoin or any other ROM?
Thanks

Titanium backup is the way to go. It saves all your data so its like nothing is missing. Try reinstalling it, and make sure you have superuser in your app bin.
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Titanium back up keeps your apps and info in the apps... You could also do a Nandroid back up done from the boot menu but i will go back to whatever rom you had at the time of back up and put all the info back where it belongs

Ok thanks, do i need to be rooted or just S-Off to use Titanium Backup? Does it not get removed when you do a super wipe?
Thanks

I thought it was going to be a dumb question if I asked if you had S-off but yes you need S-off cause that I believe is the security to let titanuim back up super user permissions so get the s-off and you should be fine

ok thanks a lot for the help, i shall give it a try!

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[Q] NB Question regarding removal of crapware

I am new to android world. just got HTC TMOUS sensation. i read about root your phone and S-Off etc. looks intimidating to a newbie like me. what I want to do is just be able to permanently remove crapware and just have clear device. i was able to do it temp-root method ,and used Titanium backup to uninstall crap. but if by any chance phone reboots , then i have to do it all over. So my question is
1) how can i achieve permanent removal of extra software (bloatware, crapware) without flashing any ROM? If that not possbile , then
2) is there any script or automated option for Titanium backup to unistall all the crap in one go, instead of doing it one by one?
Thanks in advance.
abachhan75 said:
I am new to android world. just got HTC TMOUS sensation. i read about root your phone and S-Off etc. looks intimidating to a newbie like me. what I want to do is just be able to permanently remove crapware and just have clear device. i was able to do it temp-root method ,and used Titanium backup to uninstall crap. but if by any chance phone reboots , then i have to do it all over. So my question is
1) how can i achieve permanent removal of extra software (bloatware, crapware) without flashing any ROM? If that not possbile , then
2) is there any script or automated option for Titanium backup to unistall all the crap in one go, instead of doing it one by one?
Thanks in advance.
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start here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200403
do some reading youll feel more comfortable with things
Go to this thread and get S-Off. Its very simple if you follow it step by step and there is plenty of people out there willing to help. (hell send me a PM if you need help)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Then your going to want to update your radio using this thread, another easy one just put latest file on sd card. shut off phone and boot using power and down volume. itll automatically ask you to flash it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178143
Then get on the latest and greatest rom. youll have speed, stability, and better battery life. Download InsertCoin 2.3.4
thanks 4 quick reply, gathering some courage. what is the best way to backup all my app setting? (titanium backup ?) i have temp-rooted the device.
If you don't want to flash any ROMs you can just get S-OFF using Revolutionary, acquire root (follow the guide), and then use Titanium Backup to fully uninstall the crap you don't want. That will be permanent.
I would go ahead and get S-OFF and ditch Temp-Root as that is pretty obsolete at this point. It's easy if you read beforehand, follow the guide, and ask for help if needed.
abachhan75 said:
thanks 4 quick reply, gathering some courage. what is the best way to backup all my app setting? (titanium backup ?) i have temp-rooted the device.
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titanium is the way to go to backup stuff if your temp-rooted. Id reccommend just batch backup of USER apps not system ones because the custom roms youll be installing will have a lot of updates to system apps.
Good luck man any questions shoot me a pm or raden^ he knows his **** and is helpful as hell too
thanks friends, i will try over the weekend. now it is time to go ...
Id seriously reconsider S-OFF if you DONT want ROMs! It aint easy to get S-ON again in the event a button falls off your phone or some other random warranty related incident occurs. If you send back an S-OFF phone to Tmobile or HTC, they MIGHT accuse you of voiding your warranty.
If you just want to stop bloatware, go the temp root method and FREEZE (Not delete) the thing you dont want. Then, you can reboot and no longer be rooted and still be S-ON.
I say to FREEZE and not DELETE because Tmobile or HTC may become suspicious as to where their bloatware went when you send them your phone. If you simply froze it, you can temp root, then UNFREEZE what you did and then reboot to remove the traces of an obvious root.
Alot of people here are irresponsibly pushing S-OFF on people when they REALLY need to find out if that is what they TRULY need!
I dont want to flash ANYONE's ROMs, but plan to get CM7 a shot.
Matt
mrg02d said:
I say to FREEZE and not DELETE because Tmobile or HTC may become suspicious as to where their bloatware went when you send them your phone. If you simply froze it, you can temp root, then UNFREEZE what you did and then reboot to remove the traces of an obvious root.
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I would agree with this. Don't delete anything without a backup or use the Freeze method with Titanium Backup. That way if something goes wrong, you're not up a creek!
mrg02d said:
Alot of people here are irresponsibly pushing S-OFF on people when they REALLY need to find out if that is what they TRULY need!
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Agree'd again. Don't jump into S-OFF if you aren't comfortable with it or don't plan on flashing custom ROMs. If it's just bloatware you wish to remove, use Titanium.
Good luck!
now i am bit more confused as they say at wall street, it is a risk-reward balance you have to consider.
i have installed launcher EX, i like it so far, can i uninstall sense altogether using titanium backup app?

[Q] some clarification about rooting pls

Would appreciate some clarification about the rooting thing. I've read and rooted my HTC sensation...S-off and clockwork. Have a few questions that I would like to clear up:
1) when a new OTA update is available for example...can I actually just install that instead of flashing a rooted ROM? I understand that I will lose root...but can't I just reflash the superuser file to obtain root again? Or must I use a rooted ROM or custom ROM.
2) right now, I am using the ROM that came with the phone and only went through the rooting process. If I want to keep this ROM as an original so I can go back to...do I have to back up this one now? I've done a Nand backup in clockwork before I rooted it as instructed...can I simply use that and then flash the SU file again if I ever want if I want to stay on this current ROM after I change it?
3) I performed backup using titanium backup including apps and system data...does that include all the contacts info?
4) finally, what exactly is Radio and Kernel? Do I need to change it...from what I read, if things are working...I don't need to change anything right?
Thx for clarifying this. I've read various threads but haven't gotten a clear answer to these questions.
newr said:
Would appreciate some clarification about the rooting thing. I've read and rooted my HTC sensation...S-off and clockwork. Have a few questions that I would like to clear up:
1) when a new OTA update is available for example...can I actually just install that instead of flashing a rooted ROM? I understand that I will lose root...but can't I just reflash the superuser file to obtain root again? Or must I use a rooted ROM or custom ROM.
2) right now, I am using the ROM that came with the phone and only went through the rooting process. If I want to keep this ROM as an original so I can go back to...do I have to back up this one now? I've done a Nand backup in clockwork before I rooted it as instructed...can I simply use that and then flash the SU file again if I ever want if I want to stay on this current ROM after I change it?
3) I performed backup using titanium backup including apps and system data...does that include all the contacts info?
4) finally, what exactly is Radio and Kernel? Do I need to change it...from what I read, if things are working...I don't need to change anything right?
Thx for clarifying this. I've read various threads but haven't gotten a clear answer to these questions.
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1. You could, but the ota could include some security changes or something making it hard to achieve root again. Easiest to just flash a pre rooted ROM that includes the updates
2. Yes that would work, but why not create a backup after root instead?
3. Tb can backup contacts, but the file might not be compatible with newer roms due to software changes. I just let google keep mine, that way the ROM doesn't matter
4. by radio we mean the software that is connecting your phone to the mobile network using the physical radio. Sometimes newer version can be more effective, and some are region specific. Between the radio and the ROM is the ril (radio interface layer), which helps the two interact. The kernel is the layer of software that directly controls the hardware of the phone (battery drain, cpu frequency and governor, all that stuff). rarely is changing any of that stuff necessary, but some of us just want to tweak everything we can
Thx for the clarification.
What to you mean by pre-rooted ROM? Wouldn't I need a rooted ROM now that my phone is rooted or it'll lose root?
As for the backup...yeah.. so if I perform a NAND now..it would be a rooted version of the ROM right? And it'll have all the contacts as well?
Thx
newr said:
Thx for the clarification.
What to you mean by pre-rooted ROM? Wouldn't I need a rooted ROM now that my phone is rooted or it'll lose root?
As for the backup...yeah.. so if I perform a NAND now..it would be a rooted version of the ROM right? And it'll have all the contacts as well?
Thx
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I meant when an update comes along, instead of all the effort of UN rooting, updating, and re rooting, just wait for a dev to post a ROM with the update cooked in. Much easier, less work = less risk of a problem.
And yes

So many options... feeling overwhelmed

Hello everyone. I'm fairly new to android, although I've been following its development since it first came out. I just got an HTC Sensation XE, and though I've read up on the general FAQs, the guide to installing S-Off and the Q&A posted in here, I'm feeling overwhelmed by all the information available.
I'm considering rooting the phone and flashing a custom ROM, but I feel I should wait awhile, as I've only had this phone for a couple of weeks. I think at this point I'll wait for CM9 before I do that.
What I want to do right now is root my phone and remove some apps that HTC pre-installed, such as a plethora of Singtel apps I can't use (I think it's default for South east Asia phones, even if we don't have Singtel in our country), Facebook, Plurk, etc. Not planning to touch any of the HTC sense things yet, I just want to get a feel for things.
Can anyone point me to the right direction or set of directions to follow?
(additional info that may or may not be relevant: phone is 'open-line,' it can accept any SIM from any network; home computers are running Ubuntu)
Thank you.
I'm in the same situation as well. I really wanna remove bloatware and possibly install a custom ROM.
As far as I know you have to install custom recovery if you gonna remove apps otherwise after restart they will come back. (Dont know for sure)
I found it quite easy to S off etc. Mind you Im quite experienced with flashing custom roms as my previous phones have being android.
Just start with this guide if you feel daring
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Pikabat said:
I'm in the same situation as well. I really wanna remove bloatware and possibly install a custom ROM.
As far as I know you have to install custom recovery if you gonna remove apps otherwise after restart they will come back. (Dont know for sure)
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I think you just need root to uninstall unwanted system installed apps. you can do it with titanium back up. I rooted my sensation before and uninstalled some system apps then reinstalled it to SD, but I have returned fully stock with only s off remains. I have decided that I am happy with a stock rom just the way it is.
So, if I understand correctly, to do what I want to do (remove some pre-installed apps), I will need to:
use Revolutionary to S-off
install Recovery
Root phone
Is this correct? I want to make sure before I do anything.
yes sir. flash this from recovery to obtain root: http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed.zip
After some nerve-wracking button presses (the long response time for turning on/off repeatedly gives me the the "did I brick it?!" scare) I have now succeeded in rooting my phone.
I did run into an error- "error in E:/Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed.zip, error 0, aborting" or something similar, but when I used the su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip file provided in the guide and it worked. Yay.
Thanks everyone.
Gratz.
Now you can delete the apps with titanium backup
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Yes I did. Killing Facebook feels so good.
Congrats on root!
And don't be afraid to flash custom rom, just follow instructions in the threads. You will love your sensation even more - promise!
Device: HTC Sensation - S-off - Rooted - 32Gb sd
ROM: ARHD 5.0.2 ICS + no-sense
Kernel: Stock
Radio: 11.59.3504.00U_11.16.3504.16_M
Recovery: 4Ext Touch
I've just done the same thing today. I've just been and set the Titanium backup to download so I too can remove some of the Vodafone apps that are pre-loaded on my phone.
Good luck... Hope mine woks out too

If I rooted my phone..

Hello everyone, I want to ask if I rooted my phone will my original ROM stay or not ?? and if yes I can still update it like it's unrooted ??
Your original Rom will be untouched, if you install a custom recovery you will not be able to install the OTA updates, if you update you will probably loose your root
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yes on both. but do make a backup if you every want to change it back to the original.
After you do S-OFF, flash the recovery (CWMR 5 or 4ext) and backup your current ROM and save it. You can also find the shipped rom over the internet
I remembered i proper jobbied myself when i first rooted my HTC Desire. I thought i'd get taken to jail lol.
If you don't like the idea after its done, you can always re-install the stock rom from these forums, and all will be well.
However, once you get into this stuff, you'll wonder why you didn't sooner

Questions before I root

Hello everyone - Please apologize if this is not the right place to ask this and feel free to move this thread where it belongs. So I have finally decided to root my HTC Inspire (Desire) - primarily to get rid of the bloatware and improve the battery life. I had a question before I do it - do I need to make any kind of backup before I proceed? Also, how easy/hard is it to go back to stock after you root? When you get an official software update, you need to be in the stock mode before you can get that update, correct?
I am planning to use the titanium backup pro after I root to freeze the bloatware - is there a better option available to do that or would you guys recommend titanium? Thanks much!
After you root, you won't want to have any "official" updates. We're not getting official ICS anyway. The ace hack kit does include a method to return to stock if you really needed to, say for warranty purposes. Rooting won't erase anything on your phone, but make sure all your contacts and everything are synced before you flash a new ROM. You need to wipe everything before that.
Titanium backup is the way to go for freezing/removing bloatware. Just be careful what you remove. I suggest freezing something before removing it to make sure the it doesn't make the phone act wierd. I made the mistake of removing a system app that I thought I had no need for, and it made my sync stick. Always had to manually cancel it or it would run forever. I ended up having to reflash to fix it.
Thanks a bunch. Could you clarify what you mean when you say that there is no need for the "official" updates after I root the phone? Won't I need the software updates from AT&T or HTC in the future? Let's say an upgrade to Android in the coming days or something similar?
For only rooting purposes, I don't need to make any backups, correct? I am under the impression that I need to make a backup only if I need to flash a ROM. Is that a correct assumption?
If I freeze a bloatware, does it still hog the system resources (CPU/memory)? Or is it just a way to hide it from the app drawer?
Thanks for your help.
jkm2282 said:
Thanks a bunch. Could you clarify what you mean when you say that there is no need for the "official" updates after I root the phone? Won't I need the software updates from AT&T or HTC in the future? Let's say an upgrade to Android in the coming days or something similar?
For only rooting purposes, I don't need to make any backups, correct? I am under the impression that I need to make a backup only if I need to flash a ROM. Is that a correct assumption?
If I freeze a bloatware, does it still hog the system resources (CPU/memory)? Or is it just a way to hide it from the app drawer?
Thanks for your help.
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There will be no more updates from AT&T or HTC for the Inspire. Your only choice for updates will be to use a custom rom. They are much better than anything "official".
A back up is recommended before you start making changes once you have root. It is easier to restore a nandroid than to flash a RUU file.
Apps that have been frozen do not use CPU or ram but are still using storage.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25822169
I had posted something for the user in this thread maybe the info I made could help you out or give you the idea
My Inspire
to ease you mind, I just rooted my Inspire using aace.. its totally easy basically plug and play, just read the directions and make sure you followed the prereq' directions.. Its not hard at all and very worth it, can belive i didnt do it sooner, just flased CM7 today and it AWESOME!!!! do and dont look back!!

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