So, I got my Bionic yesterday and, to be honest, I miss my Thunderbolt. As much as I love HTC phones, I've always thought Moto had better build quality. That is not the case with this phone. It doesn't feel as well made as my OG Droid, Droid X, or Thunderbolt. It is a snappy little device, but I miss the Sense UI and it's easy Facebook integration. So, now I'm just waiting on the Vigor or Prime in the next few months and I'll be out of the Bionic.
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So, I got my Bionic yesterday and, to be honest, I miss my Thunderbolt. As much as I love HTC phones, I've always thought Moto had better build quality. That is not the case with this phone. It doesn't feel as well made as my OG Droid, Droid X, or Thunderbolt. It is a snappy little device, but I miss the Sense UI and it's easy Facebook integration. So, now I'm just waiting on the Vigor or Prime in the next few months and I'll be out of the Bionic.
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I wonder how many people feel like you do?
I have never seen a better example of "The grass always seems greener on the other side of the fence" than when it comes to people and phones.
I have always been shocked at how many times some people on here swap phones and get them off contract at full price or add lines just to have a newer phone.
I'm mostly just grateful I don't have a Blackberry running a crippled OS like BBOS 4 or 5 anymore. Compared to that, even having a older phone like the Incredible or Moto Droid 1 would be preferable.
The overall return on satisfaction from swapping a pretty new Android phone to a slightly newer Android phone just doesn't seem as long lasting as a big leap like going from a Blackberry to Android to me.
Bionic is fast. Really fast. This does not make up for:
Cheap feel.
Kiddy look with painted on buttons.
Mesh pattern on screen. It is BAD.
Meh battery. I didn't see much improvement.
Locked bootloader.
Horrible software. It looks pretty but the functionality isnt there.
I had an X. I loved the build quality and the LED's and the intensity of the vibrate. All things which the Bolt lacks, minus the build quality. My old X is sitting in my desk drawer and I don't miss it.
I think the UI has a lot to do with how I feel. I've learned to live without LED's. I had the moto A630 about 4 or 5yrs back. I loved that phone, too. I'm HTC, from here on out though.
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Bionic is fast. Really fast. This does not make up for:
Cheap feel.
Kiddy look with painted on buttons.
Mesh pattern on screen. It is BAD.
Meh battery. I didn't see much improvement.
Locked bootloader.
Horrible software. It looks pretty but the functionality isnt there.
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Couldn't agree more. After being an Atrix owner I'm over Motorola. The phone felt cheap as hell and the locked bootloader was annoying. Add that to the fact the qHD screen was very disappointing I chose to never buy Motorola again unless they put a device out that proves me wrong.
I'm sticking with the TBolt until the Prime hits VzW!
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Bionic is fast. Really fast. This does not make up for:
Cheap feel.
Kiddy look with painted on buttons.
Mesh pattern on screen. It is BAD.
Meh battery. I didn't see much improvement.
Locked bootloader.
Horrible software. It looks pretty but the functionality isnt there.
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Exactly!! Luckily, I don't pay for cell phones or I'd be a little more upset than I am. I'm going to weigh my options between the Vigor and the Prime when they hit the market.
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adrynalyne said:
Bionic is fast. Really fast. This does not make up for:
Cheap feel.
Kiddy look with painted on buttons.
Mesh pattern on screen. It is BAD.
Meh battery. I didn't see much improvement.
Locked bootloader.
Horrible software. It looks pretty but the functionality isnt there.
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Absolutely agree. You listed exactly every issue I have had with this phone. Even the extended battery barely helps with heavy use on 3G. I must say other than the thinness, lightweight, and dual core speed this device has turned out to be a great dissappointment (incomparable to the Galaxy SII). Also, I no longer trust Motorola's UI due to it's lack of basic features such as seperate notifications for e-mail accounts and syncing only existing contacts with Facebook. If the ThunderBolt had a dual core CPU, even to this day I would call it the best device on Verizon (I'll deal with the extended battery if I have to). I'm definitely switching to the next flagship Verizon device. At this point, my only decision here is Samsung Galaxy Prime, HTC Rezound (Vigor), or the LG LU6200 (Revolution 2?).
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So, I got my Bionic yesterday and, to be honest, I miss my Thunderbolt. As much as I love HTC phones, I've always thought Moto had better build quality. That is not the case with this phone. It doesn't feel as well made as my OG Droid, Droid X, or Thunderbolt. It is a snappy little device, but I miss the Sense UI and it's easy Facebook integration. So, now I'm just waiting on the Vigor or Prime in the next few months and I'll be out of the Bionic.
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Yeah, I dropped in a VZ store when I was at a mall last week. I messed around with all of the phones there, including the Bionic, and was very disappointed with them all. The Bionic is overall nice, but something is off with the screen. Despite it being newer, it seems to have poorer quality than a relatively mediocre TB screen. Especially up close.
Samsung has a good rep, and admittedly I am eyeing the Prime...However the Charge is just a POS. It feels like a kids toy in your hand and looks ridiculous.
I loved LG flip phones back in the day...but they are far behind in the smart phone arena. That's all there is to it.
For all of us who nervously bought the TB months ago instead of waiting for the Bionic...Looks like we made the right choice. I managed to drop mine in a lake and revive it, but the speakers are shot. So I am looking for an upgrade. Haven't seen anything worthwhile yet, hoping the Prime is decent. Supposedly it will have a metal frame, which I loved on the OG droid.
The bionic is nice... screen is lackluster but speeds are definately better. I am torn between better service or nicer screen. May send my bionic back, just not sure yet.
I returned my Bionic after 4 days, the straw that broke the camel's back for me was an annoying feedback when using my earbuds
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I returned my Bionic after 4 days, the straw that broke the camel's back for me was an annoying feedback when using my earbuds
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I wish I could use my ear buds with my t bolt. Either the audio jack was messed up out of the box or within a couple weeks of use the left side output stops working, all 6 have been like this. This is one of the reasons I want a new Motorola. The Bionic has the noise but at least it isn't a broken jack, I think it'll be fixed in a future firmware, or custom Rom.
All 6?
Son, your earbuds are what is jacked, LOL.
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All 6?
Son, your earbuds are what is jacked, LOL.
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I would have to agree with this statement.
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I wish I could use my ear buds with my t bolt. Either the audio jack was messed up out of the box or within a couple weeks of use the left side output stops working, all 6 have been like this. This is one of the reasons I want a new Motorola. The Bionic has the noise but at least it isn't a broken jack, I think it'll be fixed in a future firmware, or custom Rom.
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Not trying to be a **** here but why do you even post here anymore? It seems lately all you do is bash HTC or the Thunderbolt and love all over Motorola and the Bionic. You know there is a Bionic forum right?
Oh and for the record I'm still on my first TBolt and have had no hardware issues at all.
I've got a slightly bent patch cable in my car that will only work if turned in one way, otherwise the left side drops out. That's probably the issue.
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Not trying to be a **** here but why do you even post here anymore? It seems lately all you do is bash HTC or the Thunderbolt and love all over Motorola and the Bionic. You know there is a Bionic forum right?
Oh and for the record I'm still on my first TBolt and have had no hardware issues at all.
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I've argued with this guy a lot. I don't know how to explain his experience. I went to BlackBerry for a while because of Motorola devices. I literally couldn't replace them as fast as they broke.
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I've got a slightly bent patch cable in my car that will only work if turned in one way, otherwise the left side drops out. That's probably the issue.
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I've argued with this guy a lot. I don't know how to explain his experience. I went to BlackBerry for a while because of Motorola devices. I literally couldn't replace them as fast as they broke.
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Agreed. I've heard way too many people claim Motorola makes great devices with excellent build quality. Then explain the Atrix to me then for one. I owned that phone and it felt like a plastic POS toy my 4 year old would play with. Every HTC phone so far I've owned or played with felt sturdy and durable.
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All 6?
Son, your earbuds are what is jacked, LOL.
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I've tried 3 sets of ear buds 1 pair of head phones and 2 aux jacks all of which work fine on my wife's X, my 2 mp3 players as well as her mp3 player.
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Not trying to be a **** here but why do you even post here anymore? It seems lately all you do is bash HTC or the Thunderbolt and love all over Motorola and the Bionic. You know there is a Bionic forum right?
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Because I have a t bolt and not a bionic, I haven't said anything about the bionic except that it seemed fast and smooth for the 10 I used one in the store and that I would prefer that over my t bolt. I do talk about how good Motorola phones have been for me in the past (several razr's, krazr's, ad an X) but nothing about a bionic because I haven't owned one and can't honestly give my opinion. I would be fine with the t bolt if I could just yr one without hardware issues. I used to rave about the t bolt (for 2 weeks) and a couple people bought them because I recommended them, they now have charges' after several faulty t bolts but I refuse to own a Samsung or LG, that's why I still have a t bolt
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I've tried 3 sets of ear buds 1 pair of head phones and 2 aux jacks all of which work fine on my wife's X, my 2 mp3 players as well as her mp3 player.
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Because I have a t bolt and not a bionic, I haven't said anything about the bionic except that it seemed fast and smooth for the 10 I used one in the store and that I would prefer that over my t bolt. I do talk about how good Motorola phones have been for me in the past (several razr's, krazr's, ad an X) but nothing about a bionic because I haven't owned one and can't honestly give my opinion. I would be fine with the t bolt if I could just yr one without hardware issues. I used to rave about the t bolt (for 2 weeks) and a couple people bought them because I recommended them, they now have charges' after several faulty t bolts but I refuse to own a Samsung or LG, that's why I still have a t bolt
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Ahh ok. Well anyways seems like you and your friends have bad luck though. I know a few people other than myself who are all on TBolt #1 and love it and have had no issues. One of them was a Charge owner who despised his battery life. It literally drained faster than I have ever seen a battery drain. This happened for the first 4 days he owned it with basically nothing installed (former BB owner wasn't used to Android yet). I'm sure there are defective bolts out there just like there are defective everything out there though. I personally think Motorola is overrated and won't purchase another product of theirs.
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Now that some of you have had your Thunderbolts a while now, I dont know how many had a droid x before. but for those of you that did was it a huge upgrade or what. I've been putting off upgrading but the urge wont go away because I want 4g. I'd probably have to buy it used on craigslist. Is it worth it? Reliable? Sense vs Blur etc. Any opinions appreciated.
Jeff
Bro I had the same feelings as u but I jumped on the Bolt a day after release and let me tell u its the best decision ever. The phone is super fast and 4g speeds are hell of amazing. I def recommend u get the tbolt personally there isnt a better phone you an get from verizon other than the bolt and their wont be for months. I say go for it you will be happy you did.
I dont know if its a huge jump but Im not looking back. My dx was phone had good Roms but was ready for something different. Must have been what I was looking for because Im sticking with it.
My wife got a DX last year. I never liked it, and I really tired too. I stuck it out with my Touch Pro 2 until about 3 weeks ago, when I finally got my TBolt. What a great phone this is. I am really glad I stuck with HTC. I like the build quality, and the overall feel of the phone. I have used HTC phones since the 6700, and the TBolt does not disappoint.
Now, on the flip side, my wife HATES my TBolt. Her DX died on her a week ago, and we had to get a refurb. She used my phone several times over a day and a half, and she said she would never own a TBolt. Guess my wife will be getting a Bionic for Christmas!
Rob
I've had the D1, D2, DX, Fascinate, and now the Thunderbolt. None of the phones I had in the past compare accept for the D1 because of the developer support. This is the first time I have been all the way happy with a phone purchase in my life. The funny thing is that I got the Thunderbolt just to lock in 4G thinking it wasn't that much of an upgrade. Wow I was so wrong.
I've got a TB, my wife has an X.
I absolutely love my TB, even with it's battery life being less than optimal. I can't stand her X, I think Blur is the ugliest UI ever.....
I don't know if this is a totally fair opinion since she won't let me root hers, and I'm rooted running das BAMF 2.1......
That aside, even when I was stock, I felt that her X lagged a lot more than my TB.....probably due to my extra RAM.
It's an upgrade in some areas and a downgrade in others. The only reason I didn't go back to the X was 4g.
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Now that some of you have had your Thunderbolts a while now, I dont know how many had a droid x before. but for those of you that did was it a huge upgrade or what. I've been putting off upgrading but the urge wont go away because I want 4g. I'd probably have to buy it used on craigslist. Is it worth it? Reliable? Sense vs Blur etc. Any opinions appreciated.
Jeff
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I had a Droid X before. It was a better phone. While the Thunderbolt is noticeably faster and snappier, but the DX has better build quality and is much more reliable. In addition to that, it could go 2 days easily on a charge without installing a ROM or turning everyting off.
Honestly, if it wasnt for the 4G capability, the TB would be a pretty "meh" phone.
I loved my X. It was like a member of my family. I've been a Moto guy since the StarTAC but I can safely say I do not regret going with the Bolt for one second. It's a different experience altogether but there is a lot of fun to be had with the Bolt.
I am also a big Moto guy but I do like my Thunderbolt. The screen is much better and I don't find myself missing those extra 54 pixels too much anymore. The one thing I hate about the Thunderbolt is the plastic body. The materials used in the DX are much better but the polish of HTC seems much better than Moto. For example the phone doesn't start to overheat for no reason or reboot for no reason (at least mine doesn't). Also the headphone jack feels solid and I really don't think it will break like the one on my DX.
Thanks for all the opinions, ill give myself two weeks or so to make the switch. Funny you brought up the headphone jack since I use my phone for music alot. It cuts out if I move a certain way while working. It just started doing that a few weeks ago, and does so with 3 different sets of headphones. Im rooted/deodexed/overclocked and was running liberty. I dont mind the setup besides 3g and now the hassle of returning to stock and then getting one of their crappy refurbished x's that my girlfriend has gotten 3 of by now. (they ended up being worse than her original she hated)
It seems that build quality and reliably are the two most missed things about the X. The X is half the weight but it feels like a tank compared to the Thunderbolt. there are a few things that are a major pain for me on the tbolt like when I long press in any browser I get the wrong pop up unless I zoom in (I'm a tab browser so this is really annoying.) I never had a problem with the headphone jack on the X in 10 months, but I do on the Thunderbolt in just 2 months, along with a now recessed power button. At first I didn't like the tbolt screen as much, now I've changed sides, I think this depends on which one your use to. All in all I like my tbolt but I would gladly give it up for the next Motorola 4g phone , once its rooted.
Edit: Battery life is almost as good on my tbolt running Das BAMF Stripped 1.8 as my X with ApeX or Liberty.
I came from the Dinc and my wife has the DX, I had the option to trade my Dinc for the X when it first came out but didn't. I have never been very impressed with Moto phones. I didn't like the feel of it in my hand. I really like the TB but I'm a little unimpressed with the support we have received since they screwed up the last OTA. If they will release GB 2.3.4 I will be tickled pink with this phone. I have played around with my wife's DX a bit but I just don't like it. The things I don't like about the TB are the battery & not having the latest software. The 4G rocks though!
Seems like people are a little blind to brand loyalty. Hmmmm build quality and reliability, Last I checked the Thunderbolt is solid as hell. Remember all of the problems the X had when it came out and how long it took to fix even with rooting? Remember all of the random freezing? The only knock I would give the thunderbolt is that it didn't come with 2.3 out of the box, but that doesn't matter because I'm running it rite now.
Edit: I almost forgot that some people aren't happy that the Thunderbolt is single core. Well as long as the real life performance stays close to dual core phones for while like it is now then that argument doesn,t hold up
I couldn't bring myself to buy the X, it looked too much like a calculator. On design alone the Tbolt wins out IMHO. Having said that the Thunderbolt is the best phone I have every had. Bamf GB 2.1 remix 2.0 radio
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Honestly, if it wasnt for the 4G capability, the TB would be a pretty "meh" phone.
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I agree that the Tbolt is pretty "meh" out of the box, but a custom rom turns it into a completely different beast. Yes, that is true about custom roms on any phone, which is why I wouldn't consider a Moto Bionic or Droid Charge or LG Revolution. The Tbolt developer community is outstanding.
tbolt 4g lte reigns supreme and you can talk AND use internet at the same time
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Seems like people are a little blind to brand loyalty. Hmmmm build quality and reliability, Last I checked the Thunderbolt is solid as hell. Remember all of the problems the X had when it came out and how long it took to fix even with rooting? Remember all of the random freezing?
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The Thunderbolt is far from solid. Most (not all) have random reboots, the only time I had any with the X was when I overclocked too much. I don't remember any freezing problems when I got the X or many of the problems, especially ones that couldn't be fixed with root, but I got it 10 days after release so I'm not sure of any problems in the first week. The only problem I remember was how slow the X could be at times, but root and autokiller fixed that. Hardware wise (build quality) my X never gave me problems, but some people hat problems with the headphone jack, all the other problems were minimal. With my thunderbolt the headphone jack is already giving me problems, I have dead pixels and I now have a flush power button. I will be getting another soon it just sucks that I have to get a refurbished phone to replace my new phone. If it happens again (the power button seems to be a big problem for many people) I'll request another Motorola phone, I really miss the great reception and call quality my MOTO phones have had. I will never use a LG or Samsung again, I have had several crappy phones from them. The thunderbolt hasn't turned me off of HTC but I'd rather wait until their hardware matches the quality of their software (even though I don't like sense, it is the best stock UI other than vanilla android) and Motorola's software can be fixed by devs to match their hardware quality.
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tbolt 4g lte reigns supreme and you can talk AND use internet at the same time
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This is a nice feature, I'm not sure why other manufactures aren't using this. Maybe all the manufactures will start using this with their next line of phones.
As much as I hate to rant, I don't know where else would be appropriate to do so, so ignore this if you don't care.
I have own htc devices since the ppc6700. I have owned an iPhone and a Moto droid, but the rest htc. I have always found htc to build a quality product. I love the phone internals and gingerbread, oh and the kickstand has become imperative, but I feel like this is the worst quality htc handset I have ever owned. Since launch day I'm on my 5th phone. All manufacturer warranty exchanges. I had 2 recessed power buttons, one recessed volume rocker, and a broken wifi. The power button is again begining to recess more every day, on all of my tb's the metal finish on the kickstand flaked of.....I mean is anyone else kind of disappointed here? Have I just had ****ty luck? I am so gentle with these things I really don't understand what's going on.
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As much as I hate to rant, I don't know where else would be appropriate to do so, so ignore this if you don't care.
I have own htc devices since the ppc6700. I have owned an iPhone and a Moto droid, but the rest htc. I have always found htc to build a quality product. I love the phone internals and gingerbread, oh and the kickstand has become imperative, but I feel like this is the worst quality htc handset I have ever owned. Since launch day I'm on my 5th phone. All manufacturer warranty exchanges. I had 2 recessed power buttons, one recessed volume rocker, and a broken wifi. The power button is again begining to recess more every day, on all of my tb's the metal finish on the kickstand flaked of.....I mean is anyone else kind of disappointed here? Have I just had ****ty luck? I am so gentle with these things I really don't understand what's going on.
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Still on my first phone no screen cover, no phone case, rooted and flashed many ROMS and radios. So far so good, holding strong till Incredible HD
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"If i helped you please thank me"
Had mine a month. Had one shut down that required a battery pull to get the phone to come on. Kickstand coating is just beginning to peel. Not happy about that, but been a good phone otherwise.
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Thought I would add that my brother bought one and has had his about three Weeks. He's sending his back due to constantly losing data coverage in the same area I'm in and his phone vibration rarely works. Stock Roms for both of us. And his kickstand is warped, but he keeps his in his pocket and I use a clip-on.
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Funny this post popped up.
My power button went kaput tonight.
I'm on my 5th t bolt as well, horrible build quality. My latest phone runs great but the screen has a green hue to it and the power button was messed up out of the box. All five of mine have had messed up power buttons (either out of the box or within a month) a retarded proximity sensor and the speakers and mics are poor quality and make this horrible as a phone (luckily I don't talk much) and one of them wasn't stable at 1 ghz, I had to underclock it to 800 mhz to stop the shut downs.
I got this phone because I know most of their phones are great, but even people I know who were big time HTC fans switched over to the charge. I really don't want to swap for a Samsung or LG but thats all they will switch my phone for, I wish they would switch it for a Motorola to get me through until my upgrade.
I'm at about 4 months or so with the TBolt and no issues what-so-ever. I have flashed numerous ROMs, kernels and radios over and over and no issues there either. Only thing is the kickstand has a few little flakes coming off but whatever it's a phone not an antique to be worried about. I actually think the build quality is quite nice and I like how it feels sturdy in my hands not glass like the jesusphone or plasticy like other Android phones I have had....ATRIX!!!!
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I'm at about 4 months or so with the TBolt and no issues what-so-ever. I have flashed numerous ROMs, kernels and radios over and over and no issues there either. Only thing is the kickstand has a few little flakes coming off but whatever it's a phone not an antique to be worried about. I actually think the build quality is quite nice and I like how it feels sturdy in my hands not glass like the jesusphone or plasticy like other Android phones I have had....ATRIX!!!!
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Oh good, I'm not the only one around here that calls it the jesusphone, lol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JesusPhone
only problems I've had on our 2 bolts is peeling of the kickstand. It's not hd2 build quality, but not bad. I don't like the plastic feel of the samsung devices.
I just called to have my 6th t bolt sent to me. I shouldn't have given up my Droid X, that was a great phone.
All the tbolts are buggy. Why send one back?
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only problems I've had on our 2 bolts is peeling of the kickstand. It's not hd2 build quality, but not bad. I don't like the plastic feel of the samsung devices.
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The HD2 has to be the best, most beautifully built phone I've ever owned.
Have you guys been offered any other phones in exchange? I've gone through 3 replacements and they haven't offered me any other phones.
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I have two original TB's and havent had any problems with either. Maybe its the luck of the draw. I am also very nice to my phones. As for well built, the OG droid will never be beat.
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Cause when your battery pops, or your earpeace is horribly distorted, or your WiFi doesn't work, or your proximity sensor is wiggin out, or your headphone jack doesn't work, you return it. I would love to get my hands on a thunderbolt without any issues, new or referb.
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The HD2 has to be the best, most beautifully built phone I've ever owned.
Have you guys been offered any other phones in exchange? I've gone through 3 replacements and they haven't offered me any other phones.
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They offered me the charge or revolution but I don't plan to own anymore Samsung or LG after all the crappy phones from them over the years. So far blackberry and Motorola have been th only good phones I owned.
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I would love to get my hands on a thunderbolt without any issues, new or referb.
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Me too, or a Bionic.
I think the reason I keep getting crappy phones is because these refurbished/certified phones suck and was someone else's reject before we get them.
Yea, I've had no problems on the functionality/software front. My problem is this is the most I've ever paid for a device on contract so I refuse to use one with a messed up power button, or a flakey kickstand, or wifi radio that's broken. I only bought this phone because:
1. Wanted unlimited data
2. Wanted 4g
3. Good Past experiences with HTC
I planned to upgrade to the bionic and give this phone to the fiance, but it took too long and now I'm not impressed with it. I love the experience and functionality of this phone. I like the charge too, but the only thing that pisses me off about the charge is that the browser is crippled. Its so laggy that it would make me embarresed to show my buddies with an iPhone something on the web.
With all this being said, I think the droid/nexus prime will be my next device. Reason being is that google has official stated that android will be focusing on OMAP compatibility in ice cream sandwich development, and I have a feeling the vigor will ship with a Qualcomm chipset. That combined with my thunderbolt experience. Still, I see no other devices on verizon currently that catch my interest.
I have no idea how some of you go through so many devices. It really blows my mind. I've had no issues at all with this thing.
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I planned to upgrade to the bionic and give this phone to the fiance, but it took too long and now I'm not impressed with it. I love the experience and functionality of this phone. I like the charge too, but the only thing that pisses me off about the charge is that the browser is crippled. Its so laggy that it would make me embarresed to show my buddies with an iPhone something on the web.
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I'd love to have a Bionic, but I'm not using an upgrade for it. They told me I could do an early upgrade since I've had so many problems but I feel I should be entitled to a decent phone since I already paid them $270 for this pos. I wasn't suppose to get an upgrade until may, and I want to hold out until then to get a phone that'll hold me over for 2 years but I need a phone to get me through until then and all they offer is Samsung and LG which I stay away from (phones only, I love my Samsung tv and I keep eyeing a galaxy tab). The only reason I don't switch to the charge is poor signal, all of my old Samsung phones had poor signal and most reviews I read about the charge mentioned that as one of the cons. If the browser is the only thing holding back from a charge why don't you try a 3rd party browser?
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I just called to have my 6th t bolt sent to me. I shouldn't have given up my Droid X, that was a great phone.
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After going through 6 of them you'd think they'd try to offer you something else. I've been through 3 so far & as soon as I get an extra $310 I'm done with Verizon/HTC.
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After going through 6 of them you'd think they'd try to offer you something else. I've been through 3 so far & as soon as I get an extra $310 I'm done with Verizon/HTC.
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They have offered, but they've only offered the charge and revolution and I've already had all the crappy Samsung and LG phones that I care to. I'd go back to a Droid X if they would refund some of the $270 I spent on this piece.
The charge and the thunderbolt. Yet I'm trying to figure out which one is the best one. The charge has that super amoled plus screen, and the thunderbolt has the amazing body. What are your guys decision thanks.
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I think it's worth noting that I know a couple of people who have Charges, and every single one of them gets a worse signal than I do on my TB. I'll even get 4G in areas where they're still stuck on 3G. That said, the TB seems to have a lot of manufacturing issues, but if you get a solid phone it is amazing especially when rooted.
The Tbolt certainly has superiority regarding connectivity. It's currently the ONLY device that will do simultaneous voice and data in both CDMA and LTE. The Samsung is limited to 4G for that.
When we upgraded I got the bolt and my girlgot the charge. Her charge had a defective mic and the replacement charge also had a defective mic she has been on a bolt ever since.
Liquid Gingerbread 3.0!?
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/05/samsung-teases-and-briefly-shows-off-the-galaxy-nexus/
Wait a few weeks
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I think it's worth noting that I know a couple of people who have Charges, and every single one of them gets a worse signal than I do on my TB. I'll even get 4G in areas where they're still stuck on 3G. That said, the TB seems to have a lot of manufacturing issues, but if you get a solid phone it is amazing especially when rooted.
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This is why I won't get a charge, poor signal. However I've also been through 6 t bolts all with hardware issues, t bolts also have poor call quality (not a defect, they just use crappy material) I know 3 people who went from a t bolt to a charge and love it, but I don't do Samsung or LG phones because of all the signal problems I've had in the past. 2 of my t bolts have run great, 2 were ok, 1 was slow and one was almost unusable (all were clocked at 1 ghz, except the unusable one which was unstable so I under clocked it to 800 mbs.)
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/05/samsung-teases-and-briefly-shows-off-the-galaxy-nexus/
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This deal probably won't last that long, and if it does they wouldn't offer that for free.
I had a charge for a long time. I really enjoyed the battery and loved the Samsung leaked roms. Thought the screen was amazing. Traded for the bolt and I don't honestly see a huge difference in screen quality. The bolt is less slugish but the battery life isn't so hot. That being said, I would probably never go back to the charge.
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I would wait for the Htc Vigor, should be out this month and is supposed to be an animal. Dual core and plenty of ram, sense 3.5.
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This is a no brainer. TB
I generally like samsung phones, and will probably pick up the new Prime when it is released...but man samsung really laid an egg with the charge. Just pick the thing up and play with it. Sure the screen is ok, but everything else about the phone is garbage. It's thick, oddly shaped and feels like a fragile, cheap kids toy. It has physical buttons, plus it just looks ridiculous.
The Thunderbolt had plenty of software problems early on, but now that those have been worked out it is a very solid, fast device. The screen is surprisingly good for a phone that is almost a year old, certainly better than the new bionic, and on par with the charge.
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This is why I won't get a charge, poor signal. However I've also been through 6 t bolts all with hardware issues, t bolts also have poor call quality (not a defect, they just use crappy material) I know 3 people who went from a t bolt to a charge and love it, but I don't do Samsung or LG phones because of all the signal problems I've had in the past. 2 of my t bolts have run great, 2 were ok, 1 was slow and one was almost unusable (all were clocked at 1 ghz, except the unusable one which was unstable so I under clocked it to 800 mbs.)
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What the heck do you do to your phones? lol
I have had my phone since release day. I had all sorts of issues early on, but it was all software related (reboots, gps, service, calls, ect...). This was the first 4g device, so some of this was expected. With the latest roms this device is solid as could be. I even dropped it in a lake, recovered it, revived it, and and am still using it today.
didn't pay attention to connectivity differences, but with the Charge the screen seems a tad more crisp and easier to see when you're out in the sun... although the battery seems to drain a bit faster.
I had the Charge and now I have the Tbolt. I would not buy either of them again. I don't know why I bought the either of them. I absolutely hated touch wiz and I only mostly hate Sense. But I was coming from the OG Droid and I really wanted "the hottest new phone" I think they are both pieces of crap and I would not buy either of them right now with a couple of releases on the horizon.
I would even consider going to the locked bootloader bionic over either of those phones.
Just me though.
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I had the Charge and now I have the Tbolt. I would not buy either of them again. I don't know why I bought the either of them. I absolutely hated touch wiz and I only mostly hate Sense. But I was coming from the OG Droid and I really wanted "the hottest new phone" I think they are both pieces of crap and I would not buy either of them right now with a couple of releases on the horizon.
I would even consider going to the locked bootloader bionic over either of those phones.
Just me though.
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The bionic is ugly and clumsy the x2 is better...
My name is Revos I'm a recovering flashaholic running Liquid Gingerbread 3.0
Admittedly, the TB had several issues when it first came (was rushed?) to market. I've had mine since release weekend, and I'll tell you what: It's a better phone today than it was when I got it back in March. The combination of radio updates and custom ROMs (I'm running CM7.1.1) have made this exactly the phone I wanted it to be. I'm glad I stuck it out, because now I have no need to try to get my upgrade early (or pay full retail) to get the next big thing.
Also, I'm on my original TB. None of the crazy build or firmware issues so many others seem to have suffered through.
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I would wait for the Htc Vigor, should be out this month and is supposed to be an animal. Dual core and plenty of ram, sense 3.5.
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Agreed. Wait for the Vigor
I need to buy a new 4G phone soon.
My Wife needs a phone (she does not have data now but wants it) & we don't want to miss the temporary 4G for 2G tiered price deal.
I figured I would buy the Galaxy Nexus if/when it ever comes out. I have both an upgrade available & a couple hundred dollars in credit from VZ.
I will probably buy from BestBuy so I can get the 30 day return/exchange policy. Right now, I have a Charge running 2.3.6 GB, imoseyon 4.0, fuju tweaks, Launcher Pro Plus, coredroid theme etc.etc.etc.
My Charge flies (2400 in Quadrant) & I absolutely LOVE the thing (no lag whatever, not a single FC etc.). With the camera button mod, it is almost the perfect phone IMHO. This makes it tough to decide what to do as I figured I would give my Wife the Charge & buy the GN for myself (the Wife could care less which one she has).
My problem is, my Boss just bought a Rezound & with all the bloatware removed it is an AWESOME phone. I am now tempted to buy that instead of the GN. The Rezound has a jaw-dropping screen with its better rez than the iphone. It is fast as hell (especially after I installed LPP+) & should be rooted sometime in the next few weeks. Not everybody likes it, but I'm no audiophile & I think the beats sound is really a plus for listening to it all day at work.
I am looking for peoples opinion of the Rezound. It already has an extended battery & cover available (I love this with my Charge) & definitely has a few advantages over the GN. I do wish the screen was slightly bigger but it is what it is.
I may just buy the Rezound, & then if I don't like it hopefully by that time the GN will be out & I can swap the two.
Any opinions welcome, good or bad.
~John
In my opinion, go with the Nexus. You'll get constant updates and have more dev support than any other phone. I'm sure the screen will look great too.
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You'll get constant updates and have more dev support than any other phone. I'm sure the screen will look great too.
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I know you're right about the constant updates.
I'm not so sure about the screen. I am a little paranoid about a pentile screen, the guy at the desk next to mine has a Razr and I think the screen blows on that phone although I realize the GN is much higher rez.
~John
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I know you're right about the constant updates.
I'm not so sure about the screen. I am a little paranoid about a pentile screen, the guy at the desk next to mine has a Razr and I think the screen blows on that phone although I realize the GN is much higher rez.
~John
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Yeah, I haven't had the chance to see the RAZR yet. A buddy of mine is in the market to upgrade from his OG Droid and said the RAZR screen looked bad in person--he's waiting for the Nexus now.
I think you're going to have to do what he's doing, which is waiting for the Nexus to get in stores so he can see and play with one in person.
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Yeah, I haven't had the chance to see the RAZR yet. A buddy of mine is in the market to upgrade from his OG Droid and said the RAZR screen looked bad in person--.
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Some people may like the Razr screen, it is quite bright and saturated/colorful.
found this:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/29/screen-comparison-galaxy-nexus-vs-droid-razr-vs-htc-rezound/
The lack of resolution is blatantly obvious to a lot of people (like me) however.
I had a Razr briefly, but hated the screen-lack of a removeable battery etc. (I have really been spoiled by the ridiculously good Charge screen) & passed the Razr on to a coworker. To me, it was really obvious that it was a pentile screen especially on text, straight lines, gradient screens etc etc etc
~John
You shouldn't worry about Pentile on GN as the high resolutions make it near impossible to see the pixels. As for Razr, I've played with the phone at the store, the Pentile is very visible (for me).
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In my opinion, go with the Nexus. You'll get constant updates and have more dev support than any other phone. I'm sure the screen will look great too.
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+1 here. I am tired of waiting on OEMs to update software and release source code. (I also don't like any of the OEM UI)
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After some more comparison, I will definitely be waiting on the Nexus.
Comparing my Charge side by side with the Rezound, I just realized how much wider the Charge screen is. I really like the wider screen setup a LOT & the GN has the wider screen config also..
My old DroidX that I absolutely LOVED, had that same tall narrow config. That was really the only thing I didn't like about the X design.
I really like using portrait orientation a lot, & the skinny screen forces you to do a lot more side to side scrolling on internet sites etc. I just like the look of the shorter wider screens also, even if you disregard the functional issue.
~John
+1 for Nexus.
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if not Nexus I'd go with the Rezound... there's not much dev work on it because no s-off yet but the devs are close, also I like the screen and wouldn't mind Sense as an overlay (of course when custom ICS roms come out they'll be stock aosp), if the Nexus release is gonna take much longer or if its really gonna be 750+ off contract I'm just gonna hold out and probably go with the Rezound
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Yeah I'm REALLY considering the Nexus myself. This was the best phone of the original 4G bunch, but the lack of dual core, ram and a higher resolution are leaving much to be desired. I really made up my mind when I saw the review on Phone Arena for the Nexus. I'm getting bored lately of Android in general (just a phase I go through about every 2 years with mobile OSes) and I think ICS would invigorate my desire to not jump back to Apple.
Getting the pure Google experience and knowing all the previous Nexus's have VERY strong communities is just another perk for me. I think the Rezound will turn into a Charge type of community later on in life, with rom releases getting farther and farther apart. Coming from an original Droid, seeing this community dry up hasn't been fun and I havent been able to load a new rom every week lol. It's just getting a bit stale lately for me.
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Yeah I'm REALLY considering the Nexus myself. This was the best phone of the original 4G bunch, but the lack of dual core, ram and a higher resolution are leaving much to be desired. I really made up my mind when I saw the review on Phone Arena for the Nexus. I'm getting bored lately of Android in general (just a phase I go through about every 2 years with mobile OSes) and I think ICS would invigorate my desire to not jump back to Apple.
Getting the pure Google experience and knowing all the previous Nexus's have VERY strong communities is just another perk for me. I think the Rezound will turn into a Charge type of community later on in life, with rom releases getting farther and farther apart. Coming from an original Droid, seeing this community dry up hasn't been fun and I havent been able to load a new rom every week lol. It's just getting a bit stale lately for me.
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Hey at least the community isn't like Droid x2 or the stratosphere which Verizon markets as "a galaxy s phone"
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display its amazing had the galaxy note with pentile no comparison
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THE PHONE IT SELF LOOKS GREAT
WORRIED THAT WHEN THE INT VERSION OF GS3 COMES OUT I WILL BE KICKING MYSELF
nope, not one bit. I'm not even going to get into CPU specs as they are all amazing at this point. I did wait to order my One X until I saw what Samsung was coming with, but one look at that phone and I immediately ordered my One X.
I for one love what HTC has done with sense on this phone and it kills touchwiz by far in my opinion. Also I think the looks of the One X far and away are more refined then the samsung.
I have been using an original iPhone (yes original edge speed) before getting my One X. I have never needed nor wanted to swap my battery or did I ever need a micro SD, so for me personally, I couldn't be happier.
my problem is i think i have OCD when it comes to gadget............
I waited till the GS3 launch before getting the One X. But I just don't see any way of not returning this and waiting to compare them in person. The phones are so different it will be easy to make the wrong decision if you're on the fence at all.
The One X is a fantastic phone and I'm grateful that we have to such great options to choose from, but there are a couple things that I don't care for that affect usability in a big way. I too am afraid the GS3 will release and I'll immediately regret it. Most, including myself, had a terrible reaction to the Samsung, but it's been growing on me.
One X:
-Build is just ridiculously good. Even more so since it's plastic and durable.
-Stunning screen. I doubt the GS3 will be as good.
-Sense 4.0 is just great. Touchwiz will certainly blow in comparison, but this is Android so that's less of an issue.
-Polycarbonte body. Texture feels great. Nothing shows on the white model.
-Screen seems to be fingerprint proof.
GS3:
-One X is not the easiest phone to use one handed because of the size. GS3 has rounded edges which look like it'll allow better reach. I'm just barely able to reach the corners on the One X, so this may bring it into the comfort zone.
-Generally the shape seems to sit in the hand very well from what I've seen and read.
-Power button on the side is so much better than the top in the One X.
-I am severely ocd about fingerprint/oil accumulation and the GS3 couldn't be worse in this regard. Hopefully there will be some decent replacement rear covers available.
Don't care about the microsd or removable battery (though hopefully the One X battery will be durable in the long term). It's the finer details that affect everyday usability that will win me over.
i was also waiting for the gs3 announcement before ordering my hox.my factors were...
16gb internal is fine for me...
and the onex is sexier imo..
really comes down to preference...also after owning htcs and sammys i still prefer htc for that "quality" feel...
but thats just me :-D and im still waiting for my hix to get here...ugh!
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no regrets here (other than at&t's performance) the HTC One X is a very solid device. the S3 is a bit underwhelming honestly. they did some neat things and clever tricks, but in the end the One X is simply a work of art and the S3 feels more like a gimmick to me. at least from what i'm reading of course not having it in hand.
not since we got root and s-off on the way
before that, the sIII was on my mind.
I'm not torn at all. The SGS3 is an ugly piece of crap, and as it's been stated before. "A handset designed by lawyers."
Dat back? It's flexible plastic? Ugh. Gross. Are you kidding me? I don't care how much storage it has, etc. It's ugly. Pentile screen? Are you kidding me? What is this 2003?
Ugh. Gross. I have unlimited data, so I'll stick with One X and be happy at my more industrial design, better build quality, etc.
i will return before my 30 day window expires get iphone 4s sell and buy the gs3 .....then i will make my decision ...... but so far its the best phone i ever had
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not since we got root and s-off on the way
before that, the sIII was on my mind.
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I waited until the S3 announcement. Once I saw unpacked I decided that the One X has taken the crown.
The one x is the most beautiful handset ever in my opinion. As far as looks go, one x hands down. BUT... The Galaxy S3 will outperform the one x even if they have similar specs. Samsung has always done a better job with drivers and optimizing things. If you want a great user experience, the Galaxy S3 is the clear winner to me. Lag free, smooth as butter, fast and lots of new features.
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What is s-off
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Quote from Addictive tips:
In a nutshell, S-OFF means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. The default setting for HTC’s devices is S-ON, which means that neither can you access certain areas of the system nor can you guarantee a permanent root. Furthermore, signature check for firmware images is also ensured by the S-ON flag.
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Basically, S-off is mandatory for what we want to do with the phone...
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The one x is the most beautiful handset ever in my opinion. As far as looks go, one x hands down. BUT... The Galaxy S3 will outperform the one x even if they have similar specs. Samsung has always done a better job with drivers and optimizing things. If you want a great user experience, the Galaxy S3 is the clear winner to me. Lag free, smooth as butter, fast and lots of new features.
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Those features will come to our phone in ROMs...we already have Flipboard...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644212
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Basically, S-off is mandatory for what we want to do with the phone...
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Those features will come to our phone in ROMs...we already have Flipboard...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644212
SVoice will come...
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thanks for the answer
Ewww GS3.
One X >
Like a lot of people waited for announcement before jumping on the one x. If it turns out the gsiii's battery life is better I'll be depressed. I'm sure its not though
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Like a lot of people waited for announcement before jumping on the one x. If it turns out the gsiii's battery life is better I'll be depressed. I'm sure its not though
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Battery life should be better since it'll be coming with a 21,000 battery as opposed to the 18,000 of the one X. Still on the wall about this phone. Kinda tired of touchwiz and samsung and want a new experience. HTC not having a memory card slot is killer for me. Might join sprint since the EVO ONE has way better specs.
Buy first, decide later
Nope, no led notification light still? Even a small one like the htc one would suffice but nothing? They arent listening to consumers.
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The one x is the most beautiful handset ever in my opinion. As far as looks go, one x hands down. BUT... The Galaxy S3 will outperform the one x even if they have similar specs. Samsung has always done a better job with drivers and optimizing things. If you want a great user experience, the Galaxy S3 is the clear winner to me. Lag free, smooth as butter, fast and lots of new features.
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the thanks was on accident, but its free lol.
anyways, i have to disagree with you.
samsung's touchwiz is very well known for being laggy, also samsung is terrible about updates (infuse just got official gingerbread the other day....)
as far as asthetics alone, the One X is quite sexy, gs3 not so much.