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Root, Rom mod, what next?

As a new Android user who is very familiar with the command line and with Linux/Unix environments, I still feel extremely overwhelmed with the amount of 'fixes' and 'root' hacks going around.
I've played with linux for 100's of hours and have broken the install and fixed it...
But this is a phone that bricks, not a computer. I don't like playing "oh I'll just try this and see what happens" with my $400 phone.
Plus I honestly can't determine which one is best for me.
I started this thread so that someone could assist me in creating a guide for what you want to do and what is best to do it.
For example, I want to upgrade to Froyo when it releases.
In the mean time I want to install a lag-fix/ custom rom.

mymansionisabox said:
As a new Android user who is very familiar with the command line and with Linux/Unix environments, I still feel extremely overwhelmed with the amount of 'fixes' and 'root' hacks going around.
I've played with linux for 100's of hours and have broken the install and fixed it...
But this is a phone that bricks, not a computer. I don't like playing "oh I'll just try this and see what happens" with my $400 phone.
Plus I honestly can't determine which one is best for me.
I started this thread so that someone could assist me in creating a guide for what you want to do and what is best to do it.
For example, I want to upgrade to Froyo when it releases.
In the mean time I want to install a lag-fix/ custom rom.
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Do people not know how to read stickies? there are guides and how-to's in this section alone. There are more in the development section. If you don't know how to search a forum, I'm not entirely sure you should be messing with your phone's firmware.

Kaik541 said:
Do people not know how to read stickies? there are guides and how-to's in this section alone. There are more in the development section. If you don't know how to search a forum, I'm not entirely sure you should be messing with your phone's firmware.
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I actually have read all of the stickies.
Im not asking 'how-to' do anything.
What I am saying is that this forum has an absolute overload of 'information' and 'solutions'
There should be a more concise sticky discussing the advantages/disadvantages of each rom/lag fix/flash/recovery/etc. (Or at least about the ones anyone cares about)
If this exists, I sure as hell don't see it.

mymansionisabox said:
I actually have read all of the stickies.
Im not asking 'how-to' do anything.
What I am saying is that this forum has an absolute overload of 'information' and 'solutions'
There should be a more concise sticky discussing the advantages/disadvantages of each rom/lag fix/flash/recovery/etc. (Or at least about the ones anyone cares about)
If this exists, I sure as hell don't see it.
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I think you're in a wrong forum if you want someone to give you any kind of "distilled", spoon-fed info just because you're afraid to mess with your "$400" phone.
Again, to second the other reply, all the info is posted. Just RTFW/S.

mymansionisabox said:
I actually have read all of the stickies.
Im not asking 'how-to' do anything.
What I am saying is that this forum has an absolute overload of 'information' and 'solutions'
There should be a more concise sticky discussing the advantages/disadvantages of each rom/lag fix/flash/recovery/etc. (Or at least about the ones anyone cares about)
If this exists, I sure as hell don't see it.
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there are tons of guides and they're all condensed. I have to agree with the other poster, if you aren't going to take the time to read and learn what you're doing, don't do it. each sticky offering to help you through all of these processes are there for a reason.
There's the "Pimp My Captivate" thread which is exactly what you say you want. And there have been comparisons of each lagfix by Zilch25, clockwork recovery by Koush is clearly explained in his thread, each ROM is discussed in their own thread.
Ironically, you're asking for a sticky so as to have less stickies. Finding out which ROM you want to use is up to you and if you're not going to take the time to figure out what each tool offers or what each base ROM means, then maybe flashing your phone is something you should steer clear of for now.

If you're afraid of bricking it, just do a Nandroid backup. If something goes wrong, then you can just flash back and it'll be A-OK. If you seriously brick your phone and it's 100% messed up, it's probably because you tried to mess it up.

Hydrocharged said:
If you're afraid of bricking it, just do a Nandroid backup. If something goes wrong, then you can just flash back and it'll be A-OK. If you seriously brick your phone and it's 100% messed up, it's probably because you tried to mess it up.
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Even guys that intentionally tried to brick their phone can't do it. I don't have much to say as it already has. Just take the time to read. There is a condensed version of what you can do to your phone, the pimp my captivate. Otherwise there are many different ways of rooting, lax fixes, firmwares to flash etc...so there is not one thing that you can do that will make your decision easier.

flashman2002 said:
Even guys that intentionally tried to brick their phone can't do it. I don't have much to say as it already has. Just take the time to read. There is a condensed version of what you can do to your phone, the pimp my captivate. Otherwise there are many different ways of rooting, lax fixes, firmwares to flash etc...so there is not one thing that you can do that will make your decision easier.
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don't say that. there have been several confirmed bricks from i9000's using the i897 one-click downloader. While there is no immediate, known, for-certain brick method for your phones... you never know who or what may be the first... always read as much as you can in the threads before you attempt to do anything

As someone who was new to the Captivate scene, but not XDA, just two weeks ago the best advice I can give you is start with the "Pimp my Captivate" PDF file. Read through that and then move forward to other stuff like flashing new firmware and using odin. Trust me you will catch on. I am no move on to working on friends phones for them without any worry of breaking (bricking) them.
Just read, read, read, and sometime read some more. If you have a question about a certain hack, fix, firmware...ect then just ask that question in that thread. Trust me there will be very useful helpful people to answer your questions.

I did what is probably the easiest method. I used unleash the beast and then one click lag fix. That's it and my phone is amazing now. I plan on sitting tight until froyo comes out and whatever the top rom happens to be.

I do appreciate everyone's answers.
Despite that, I really don't understand this particular forum's aversion of being more organized and concise. (imo)
I don't think any of you who told me to read actually understood my intentions of making this post since,although I didn't state it, I have already flashed mods to my Captivate and I have modded my previous phones.
I'm new to XDA so maybe this site is far more trustworthy than where I've been.
I'll check it out and read at least the last 10 pages of each thing that I install.
Thanks though.
Mod please close this thread.

mymansionisabox said:
I do appreciate everyone's answers.
Despite that, I really don't understand this particular forum's aversion of being more organized and concise. (imo)
I don't think any of you who told me to read actually understood my intentions of making this post since,although I didn't state it, I have already flashed mods to my Captivate and I have modded my previous phones.
I'm new to XDA so maybe this site is far more trustworthy than where I've been.
I'll check it out and read at least the last 10 pages of each thing that I install.
Thanks though.
Mod please close this thread.
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we have nothing against being "organized," I just believe your definition of organization is far too complex. You want all the ROMs compared side by side, followed by the tools, and the rooting methods, and the lagfixes and to know which is "best."
Each thing is kept separate from the other because there would be an absolute and definite overload of information in each thread. Look at SRE (a fine example of how to do it properly), he details the result for the end-user and then provides links to where each part of what he did came from. The development section provides a thread on reverting to stock and just that because it should focus on that, rooting can be left for a thread on rooting. SRE shouldn't be tossed into a thread with UTB because they provide different effects.
If you were to compile everything into one big mega-thread, questions would never be answered because there would be far too much crossover. The Pimp My Captivate thread is as good as it gets in that regard, they provide optimizations and suggestions and where to find more information, which is good enough.

I understand.
After this post I am done though, because I'm getting no where with this.
Check out the web page below, this is really what I meant. I can't post links so just close the gap between http:// and ga..
http:// gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/12/17/osx-netbook-compatib.html
I belong to several forums that had been attempting to put mac osx on netbooks and on one of them a chart of compatibility was compiled, which is similar to what I was suggesting we needed.
Ignore the comments below the chart; that would be unnecessary.
All I was proposing to do was have a locked/stickied thread that only a moderator could change up as new changes/improvements occurred.
Each root/lagfix/rom would have a href connected to their actual thread.
So there would be no need to have comments/ questions asked on that particular page. ****.. it could just be a damn wiki page, but I digress..
If no one thinks that would be beneficial to the community, that is fine.
I don't care, I can easily figure it out myself.
Mod, please close thread.

Some advice for n00bs from a n00b

Ok, so I have been using the EA11 leak for roughly one week, but have been reading for two. I wanted to write something for other new peeps to read as a "guide" if you will, to point them in the right direction and maybe answer some of those first questions. Let me make this clear right away, I AM A N00B, period. I am absolutely sure that there will be parts of this that will need corrected so please read everything. That's actually a great place to start. READ EVERYTHING.
1. Read Everything.
When I say two weeks, I mean that from the time I started reading. And reading, and reading, and...well you get it. Take every opportunity to research what it is your going to do. I read every single article I could on the Mesmerize. When a term came up I didn't recognize I went to google search. Once I learned the term I went back and READ IT ALL AGAIN. Familiarizing yourself with these forums is an invaluable tool. I also recommend downloading the XDA app, its a must have.
2. I have all these files now what?
I tried my best to get organized and put all my files in one location only to find out that my MacBook is worthless on the rooting process. I am no programmer and using Terminal scares the hell out of me. So once I got organized on a windows PC I started by reading very carefully and following the directions. I can honestly say they are concise and to the point. I must have read them 3 dozen times before starting up Odin and holding my breath.
3. I have a couple of dumb questions.
NO YOU DON'T. For the most part people around here are polite, helpful, and willing to answer most any questions. This is the process I personally go through. I first read every page of the thread that pertains to what I'm doing. Most of the time your answer is there. If no answer can be found/understood, I go to the web chat room link usually located under a senior poster. I believe it is #samsung-mesmerize. There are usually people there that can answer your questions right away. The next place to go is a PM. But please remember these people have lives and are doing all of this in their free time. FREE time. So be polite, and be patient. If all else fails then I would post a thread in the General Forum for the Mesmerize, although I have never had to do this. The odds are you won't either.
4. I have some complicated questions.
Read the above paragraph
5. I did it! Now what?
Go to the development forum, find who is responsible for your success and buy them a beer! No this is not required nor a command. I just feel personally, that these guys work pretty tirelessly and deserve it. But, I can promise that a simple thank you will go a long way.
I am running EA11, red cwm, voodoo lagfix, SGS tools new TW launcher. My battery life is better than before on stock and since using SGS tools its much faster as well. I apologize if for any reason this post seems un-necessary or if I ranted. Feel free to ask any questions or leave comments. Remember...be nice, these guys work hard.
Now running as of Sun Feb 27, 2011
Froyo EB-16 with Pick n Pack
Red CWM Recovery
Voodoo Lagfix - quadrant was 1565 Today
Splash of Color Rom (EB-16)
SGS Tools Upgraded TWlauncher
and I'm sure more to come...

[Q] A little helpplease HTC Tattoo

ok, let me first get this out of the way... I dont care if this is breaking the rules and has been asked before, i am not willing to spend the rest of my life searching through vast amounts of text on this site to maybe, just maybe, find that someone once before asked what im asking, this is a forum, questions are suposed to be asked here.
Irritated rant after spending hours looking and not finding over.
So simply my question is, is there a definitive guide to, i dont know what were calling it, its not jail breaking, thats for iphones, and its not updating, because its not the proper software, anyway whatever we're calling it, im looking for a definitive guide to upgradating?? the HTC Tattoo to 2.2, (Froyo).
now i know it can be done, ive seen lots of people say they have done it.
Ive found the guides on general dicussion.
But is every HTC android phone the same to upgradate? The guide isnt specific to any phone, just says "android"
Any help or pointing of in the right direction is much appreciated

or could someone tell me if this is any good please.
http://thegadgets.net/trickt-boy/how-to/how-to-run-android-2-2-froyo-on-htc-tattoo//
i ask because im currently lookin at this guide...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872128
...and they're very different from each other!

Come on, someone answer. There not differcult questions.
Bloody typical mind, I dont think any of these mods sites be it iphone, xbox360, or this are very newbie friendly. in my experience of firmware mods etc ive found your supposed to know everything immediatly and the only people that get help are those who have an idea to start with.
So please, one of the 58 or so next to look at this thread, please leave some answers... or just point me in the right direction, im very capable.

What you're looking to do is root your phone & then install a custom rom that has 2.2 firmware.
There are multiple methods to root, not sure about your model of phone. But try searching about rooting, there are plenty of guides. It's something you need to read up on before you do it or else you'll end up bricking your phone.
After you've looked it over, if you still need some help send me a pm.
Sent from my badass HTC Supersonic (Evo 4g) using XDA Premium App

Thanks for your reply, exactly what i was looking for.
Spend hours yesterday reading, reading and more reading about what to do, but with different methodes out there i wanted someone to explain just what i would be trying to do (rooting aparently).
Thanks very much.
It's HTC Tattoo btw.

[Q] root incredible s, if possible using ubuntu

like the title says, i want to root my incredible s, if possible using ubuntu as the OS. so far from what i googled i came up with solution that were not permanent.
any help ?
thanks

anyone that can help?

Shadow-7 said:
anyone that can help?
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Have you looked in the forum for your phone? I mean the steps are pretty much the same no matter the OS, you just get the android sdk http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html and do whatever the directions tell you in the tutorials. Typically those are stickied in the developer's section of your phone's forum.
Here's the guide to rooting your phone and such as well as how to install cyanogenmod on it. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Incredible_S:_Full_Update_Guide
I suspect since you don't have any idea how to root it already, you also don't know what else you want to do with it. You should really do some reading on it.

yareally said:
Have you looked in the forum for your phone? I mean the steps are pretty much the same no matter the OS, you just get the android sdk http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html and do whatever the directions tell you in the tutorials. Typically those are stickied in the developer's section of your phone's forum.
Here's the guide to rooting your phone and such as well as how to install cyanogenmod on it. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Incredible_S:_Full_Update_Guide
I suspect since you don't have any idea how to root it already, you also don't know what else you want to do with it. You should really do some reading on it.
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thank you very much but this part wasn't really needed "I suspect since you don't have any idea how to root it already, you also don't know what else you want to do with it.", so next time I would suggest you to be more careful and less aggressive

Shadow-7 said:
thank you very much but this part wasn't really needed "I suspect since you don't have any idea how to root it already, you also don't know what else you want to do with it.", so next time I would suggest you to be more careful and less aggressive
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It wasnt meant to be aggressive. It was an observation from you posting the question in the general forums and not noticing the stickied topics for the forum specific to your phone (since if you had, you wouldnt need to ask, right?). My guess was you were new to xda since you just registered as well as to rooting and such and you should read more about it before jumping in. Take that as you will, but there's no need to be defensive when I think my observations were valid and I was being helpful to your current situation.
Try to avoid reading every post with the assumption it's negative if I can give you anymore advice about joining xda (though some obviously are). I could put smilies all over my replies, but that gets kind of tiring and annoying to me and others, lol.
No need to get defensive if you think I'm insulting your geek cred by inferring you're a noob. Everyone is a noob sometime and xda welcomes noobs.

[Q] Noob wanting to root***

Ok so I'm looking to root my HTC M7, I've been told the obvious problem already, I dont know enough yet to be rooting. Sorry, still want to try. That being said, I'm looking for some direction. A good site, a good video, anything or recommendations that will help me out. Yes I have gone to You Tube step by step videos but I always seem to run into a problem. For example, the person in the video says to follow a link below in description, I go and the link is no longer there. Or, maybe its there but takes me somewhere different than described. One of them even changed my browser to AVG (I know, I'm retarded).
Does anyone have any ideas on where to go, where to learn and where it will literally be a step by step?
By the way, the unlocking part seems easy enough. I think its from that point I run into trouble. Also, why? Everyone seems to want to know why. Simple, I would really like to learn for one. Second, I hate the garbage att lays in on me. Id like to mess with the speed (I've heard this is possible) and Id like more choices. I just want to keep the phone interesting. The last reason, I saw yesterday. If its not BS, Id like to get function from my HTC logo.
So I hope this is not to silly for all of you. If so, I do apologize.
Thanks, Chris

root htc m7
have you tried this?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...one-m7-and-install-recovery-xda-developer-tv/

Yes, it may sound repetitive but read, read and read it again. There is an incredible amount of knowledge contained throughout this site. Sometimes the smallest mistake/oversight can lead to a huge headache, that's why its so important to have a basic understanding of any modifications you are about to make. Start with the dedicated forum for ur service provider/phone. All the info your going to need will be included in the forum and subsequent sub-forums. Good luck and don't be afraid to ask questions, we've all been in the same spot before. Use the tools that the site provides, search for your answers and read thru the forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2222

Thanks.
Thanks for the help. I did end up finding more help in the dedicated area, especially when I went to my phones forums. Huge thanks for the encouragement. I will deff. read a little more before jumping off the cliff. Looks like the process has become much easier and people are developing all in one tools. Cool stuff, thanks again!