ok, let me first get this out of the way... I dont care if this is breaking the rules and has been asked before, i am not willing to spend the rest of my life searching through vast amounts of text on this site to maybe, just maybe, find that someone once before asked what im asking, this is a forum, questions are suposed to be asked here.
Irritated rant after spending hours looking and not finding over.
So simply my question is, is there a definitive guide to, i dont know what were calling it, its not jail breaking, thats for iphones, and its not updating, because its not the proper software, anyway whatever we're calling it, im looking for a definitive guide to upgradating?? the HTC Tattoo to 2.2, (Froyo).
now i know it can be done, ive seen lots of people say they have done it.
Ive found the guides on general dicussion.
But is every HTC android phone the same to upgradate? The guide isnt specific to any phone, just says "android"
Any help or pointing of in the right direction is much appreciated
or could someone tell me if this is any good please.
http://thegadgets.net/trickt-boy/how-to/how-to-run-android-2-2-froyo-on-htc-tattoo//
i ask because im currently lookin at this guide...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872128
...and they're very different from each other!
Come on, someone answer. There not differcult questions.
Bloody typical mind, I dont think any of these mods sites be it iphone, xbox360, or this are very newbie friendly. in my experience of firmware mods etc ive found your supposed to know everything immediatly and the only people that get help are those who have an idea to start with.
So please, one of the 58 or so next to look at this thread, please leave some answers... or just point me in the right direction, im very capable.
What you're looking to do is root your phone & then install a custom rom that has 2.2 firmware.
There are multiple methods to root, not sure about your model of phone. But try searching about rooting, there are plenty of guides. It's something you need to read up on before you do it or else you'll end up bricking your phone.
After you've looked it over, if you still need some help send me a pm.
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Thanks for your reply, exactly what i was looking for.
Spend hours yesterday reading, reading and more reading about what to do, but with different methodes out there i wanted someone to explain just what i would be trying to do (rooting aparently).
Thanks very much.
It's HTC Tattoo btw.
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Hi Guys,
Who knows what the HTC name for this device is!? I am assumiong it is a HTC device.
Also does anyone have any real work experiance in using this device, its this or the HD, any advice welcome.
Thanks in advance.
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http://www.my-xda.com/pdf/technical_specs/Flint_Tech_Spec.pdf
Embassy.
Come on, was it really that hard to go to Google and find out it is really an HTC Advantage.
Phones Review
WM Experts.com
engadget
All off the first page of results.
^Come on, was it really that hard to provide help without being negative?
it wasn't intended to be negative, i did post the reults.
It must have taken longer to start the thread than i spent on Google.
deedee right if you cant be arsed searching then dont ask coz thats not what we do we develop and test. not help people who cant be bothered to spend 30 seconds on google
I did google it actually,
There are different models of the device you refer.
It does seem a bit counter productive to automatically assume that everyone who posts a question you think is stupid or readily available must not have been bothered to look into it. Without knowing the full situation.
Think of all the occasions in your and all reading this where jumping to conclusions as been a mistake.
Thanks for the info you did provide however.
This is NOT, and I repeat NOT a guide for rooting. It is a warning. Helpful advice if you will. It is here to deter you from making your life as well as those here who help others a nightmare. We are here to help those who want to help themselves. As mentioned in another thread, this forum is here to HELP people. This advice is here to help as helping also includes prevention. The advice below is for the sole purpose of preventing those who don't know what they're doing from bricking their devices prematurely.
If you don't like my advice or my opinion; that is your given right. Remember the forum rules and keep it impersonal, clean and respectful.
I am here to help people and if that includes encouraging members to learn first before they do harm to their device then so be it. If I can prevent even one person from ruining their phone before they learn how to use it then I accomplished something.
Note: Whosdaman; please feel free to move this to whatever section you feel this better fits in. I took a shot putting it here.
Disclaimer/Advice/Humble Opinion:
My advice (without trying to hurt anyone's feelings too much) is DON'T ROOT. I would suggest you familiarize yourself with everything (Linux, ADB, XDA, Google) before diving in head first.
Despite popular belief, having root does NOT in fact make you cooler.
Way too many new users are trying to root because they think it's cool or heard it's cool. Well; it's not cool to be a n00b and attempt root. You need to learn your device first.
If you don't know how to perform a Nandroid backup, or restore a previous ROM backup, flash updates, install custom ROM's, boot into Safe mode, Mount R/W, run shell commands or Terminal Emulator etc, then you should NOT root. You should browse the forums here, read, read and re-read everything until you know it well. Google search related topics. Exhaust all available avenues, then ask questions. After you've executed all of these options you might consider rooting and starting to tinker with your device.
If you don't even know what some of the things are that were mentioned, then you should absolutely NOT root your phone. You will likely brick or screw up your phone and then be right back here asking for help in a new thread most definitely created by you out of haste or costing [insert phone manufacturer/carrier here] money by sending your phone back and asking for a replacement simply because you had no idea what you were doing. JMHO
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* Rooting voids your warranty.
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Again, this is not here to offend anyone's sensitivity or hurt your feelings. Many have argued that bricking and recovery is the way they learn. That's fine [for them]. I highly doubt those same people started running before walking, or walking before crawling. But the majority of people need to learn first. Preventing someone from ruining their device is MY best advice.
I didn't know android had a safe mode.
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I didn't know android had a safe mode.
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1.) Power Off>remove battery>WAIT for at least two minutes.
2.) Power On Phone while Holding MENU key until you get to the lock screen>At the bottom left corner of the display in transparent text will be the words "Safe Mode"
When in safe mode, Android does not load any third-party apps, and you can uninstall the application that gave you trouble from Settings > Applications > Manage applications.
To exit Safe Mode:
1.) Power off phone again>remove battery>wait two minutes
2.) Do a normal power on ...
So after reading this I still couldn't figure out how to get this root stuff you were talking about. I don't know what this "search" or "google" is. But if this makes me cool then I'm all about it- maybe I could get a girlfriend finally.
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WHY?
The advice, while a successful deterrent, is not very useful. If people are here on this website, chances are they are here to learn something new about how to improve or customize their phones. We were all noobs at one point in time an I know that I benfited greatly from all the guides and reference threads here. Why not post some links to some helpful threads and say "Read these BEFORE you try anything," not "Don't try it at all and if you want to do it, find your own way to." Just a thought.
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If people are here on this website, chances are they are here to learn something new about how to improve or customize their phones.
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And that is exactly my advice. LEARN FIRST. Browse through the threads and see how many are beginners who jumped too soon and are now asking for help. It's ridiculous. If you don't like my advice move on and troll another thread. Many here agree with what I've suggested. Take it or leave it.
In my experience, the ones who have a problem with this are the ones who are guilty of it. People who want to be 'cool' and root without learning then clutter the forums begging for help.
Honestly I think you're making a sweeping generalization assuming that anyone who roots their phone without reading everything there is to read first is just trying to be "cool".
Granted, there are a lot of folks out there that could stand to take a lesson or two in common sense, but I don't think it does anyone any good to tell all the "n00bs" to essentially eff off until they've done more research than I think most people on this forum who've successfully rooted would normally do.
There are numerous disclaimers that tell people to stay away from rooting unless they either know what they're doing or are willing to take a risk, and there are numerous people who learn by doing rather than reading.
In fact I would venture a guess that, were people to subscribe to your suggestion, this forum and indeed the entire Android dev ecosphere would suffer greatly, because many devs learn by tweaking and fixing... usually something that they themselves broke!
I don't ask that you change your opinion. Simply that you ask yourself what you really hope to accomplish with this post. It would seem to me that the people you hope to deter would just be insulted and ignore it.
As a previous poster had mentioned, it would be more convincing if you provided resource links to help educate those you are trying to reach.
Also, before you sling that "troll" moniker my way as you did a previous poster, you might do well to remember that just as you have the right to post your opinion, others have the right to disagree.
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well sir, maybe some of us noobs got tired of not being able to use any apps over wifi on our blackberry without data a blackberry plan and bought an android phone so we can have more freedom.
maybe some of us noobs are diving into rooting so we can use setpcu and squeeze more than the stock 2 hour heavy use we get from a stock MT4G
maybe some of us want to learn more about the system but we ask so many questions because we dont know where to get VISIONary plus since its no longer in the market place.
i dunno about other noobs but a thread with links to what to read to learn more is way more beneficial to me than this one telling me to stay out the circle of android trust.
perhaps you are the one who thinks being rooted is "cool"?(no disrespect meant)
some of us do really want to learn and we appreciate every help and every answer we get to our questions from you veterans.
so please have a little patience and/or noob tolerance. someday we'll learn and stop asking the same question that had been answered a doze times already
A simple Google search turned up 302,000 for Visionary. Maybe if you stopped and thought before you posted you might have better results.
Again, this thread wasn't meant to hurt anyone's sensitive feelings [as it seems it has]. It was meant to deter new members/rookies from diving into something before they learned it. Obviously with the new breed of youngsters these days that just isn't the case. Common sense seems to have taken a back door to rushed gratification. Intelligent strategy is how many of us learned, not jumping in and screwing things up.
By jumping in and messing things up, you not only make things harder on yourselves but waste our time helping with things that have been answered a thousand times and a simple search would have taught you that.
As with anything in life, you need to 'learn' before you do something. Cognitive retention is key to mastering anything.
Your logic of diving in without thought or regard for yourself or others that will end up helping you is almost insulting. You will find that many of the longtime users/devs/veterans here enjoy helping people who take precautions and want to help themselves. But almost none of them/us really care to help those who jump blindly.
JMHO. Take it however you like. And you don't need to take it from me; just try and get help in here when you do something dumb and see how much help you get from senior members.
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A simple Google search turned up 302,000 for Visionary. Maybe if you stopped and thought before you posted you might have better results.
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I don't know what you did there, but I just did a simple google search for Visionary and got "About 9,880,000 results (0.11 seconds)"
Maybe your google fu is weak or something..
On another note back on topic, I couldn't disagree more with your OP.. As a newb I think diving right in is the best thing to do to learn.. I Can read a wiki for hours about a phone, but that doesn't give you the same experience of 10 minutes hands on does..
My biggest suggestion to a newb to this **** is dont start with a high end device.. Buy a HTC Wizard or Excalibur off craigslist & play with & tweak them 1st.. Then maybe a g1 or something.. That way if you do **** up & brick your device your not toast..
IMHO there is no better way to learn something then to do it.. But also when you have problems, don't think your unique & that nobody has ever posted your question before, Search for it 1st & then only post asking for help if you cant find it..
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.. But also when you have problems, don't think your unique & that nobody has ever posted your question before, Search for it 1st & then only post asking for help if you cant find it..
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And search further then the first page.
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I think I'll leave it in here, maybe even sticky it later
CB, while I can understand your frustration I believe your attitude could be seen as elitist.
I think that perhaps what we should be doing is trying to come up with a root cause solution that might work instead of telling people not to try something like rooting. As another poster implied, it's not that people shouldn't be rooting, but that they shouldn't be asking questions for which there are already answers.
This seems like the problem you're trying to address, not the problem of someone rooting their phone or not.
So let's put aside the discussion of how one learns and who has the right to root and focus on the issue of "inappropriate" posts.
Does that sound like a reasonable alternative?
Hopefully whatever comes out of this discussion could be used to improve the forum experience for everyone.
I should mention that I'm not really sure this thread should be in the dev section of the forum... Seems more like general discussion since the OP is more of an ideological opinion piece at this point.
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OP, does your soapbox come with a salad? Someone likes to hear himself talk...sheesh.
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viper3ez said:
well sir, maybe some of us noobs got tired of not being able to use any apps over wifi on our blackberry without data a blackberry plan and bought an android phone so we can have more freedom.
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As much as I HATE blackberries, I have to correct you. You do NOT need a data feature to use web over wifi on a Blackberry. How the hell would that make sense, seriously? But yes keep in mind, I am still not a BB fan lol, hate those pieces of crap.
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yo
so im not cool?
teamsilence said:
so im not cool?
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You're still cool in my book.
teamsilence said:
so im not cool?
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Your the bee's knees! Lol
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teamsilence said:
so im not cool?
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Your so cool your like an iced glacier.
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A simple Google search turned up 302,000 for Visionary.
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Good lord, does anyone here actually have the time to go through 302.000 pages? Maybe I am the only one who has kids and a wife, but I know I don't have time to take a freaking computer programing course to teach myself how to use freaking cmnd lines. The crap I have seen on different forums that walk people through different rooting procedures on different phones acts as though everyone know WTF they are doing and/or has the time to spend hours a day learning. Guess what? Not everyone does. I spend hours a day teaching people the basics of how to use their phones and I have to give directions my grandmother could follow, is it to much to ask for detailed instruction that someone who has a very basic understanding of how to use these phones could follow? I don't think so. If you "seniors" could realize that you aren't cooler because you know what you are doing, and did the responsible thing and shared your knowledge without *****ing, moaning, and complaining about n00bs, you could help more n00bs become 'seniors' themselves and have more people out there able to help others.
what does it mean to turn radio on and off and ENG on off..what is the point of that im just about to get my inspire and i understand rooting and such but ill be wanting to add a custom rom and oc the phone i am getting... im just curious of what you guys think the best rom/kernel would be for this phone? i had revolver and rev on my tablet i had before and i wish the phones would be easy as the tablet i mean with the tablet i could install to the flashcard and then go into cwm but i just cant seem to find the exact answers im looking for... so please could you explain these things to me like what that all means im sorry i keep switching between cellphones bc i cant seem to find one that keeps my attention xD
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what does it mean to turn radio on and off and ENG on off..what is the point of that im just about to get my inspire and i understand rooting and such but ill be wanting to add a custom rom and oc the phone i am getting... im just curious of what you guys think the best rom/kernel would be for this phone? i had revolver and rev on my tablet i had before and i wish the phones would be easy as the tablet i mean with the tablet i could install to the flashcard and then go into cwm but i just cant seem to find the exact answers im looking for... so please could you explain these things to me like what that all means im sorry i keep switching between cellphones bc i cant seem to find one that keeps my attention xD
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Really man? Reading is fundamental. Please do your research before asking a question. While the process may seem unbelievably easy, which it is provided you read everything and research, rooting and flashing roms,radios,kernels should not be done lightly. Did I mentioned read and search? yeah do that. Everything you're asking has been covered more then 1,000 times.
If you haven't already rooted, see the hack kit thread in the dev section. Read everything, the OP and the effen manual. Once you do that, do it again and then again for comprehension. After you've rooted, the process in flashing a new rom is not complicated at all. Again, these are all things you can find by searching and educating yourself. If you ever ask what the best rom/kernel is again, I'll blow up your house. I'm just kidding but that's a dead horse that people continue to kick over and over and over and over and over again. Don't believe me and want to find the answer for yourself why I say that, search best rom and see the response. You'll thank me later.
i have indeed rooted before and i do know about the fancy lingo but i just wanted to see what others were using and their opinion i have read it but i guess ill go read it again... im on my phone currently and trying to enter in the search phone the browser wont allow me to click enter :/ i have problems with my xperia play thats why im getting the htc hopefully it wont irritate me as bad lol but thanks again
toxicpaulution said:
i have indeed rooted before and i do know about the fancy lingo but i just wanted to see what others were using and their opinion i have read it but i guess ill go read it again... im on my phone currently and trying to enter in the search phone the browser wont allow me to click enter :/ i have problems with my xperia play thats why im getting the htc hopefully it wont irritate me as bad lol but thanks again
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I'll give you the "best rom" speech lol. There is no best rom. All roms will have bugs. What is best for me, is not best for you. It all depends on what you want out of the rom. There are some things some roms have while others don't and the more you test out the more you'll know what you can live without and what you can't. So the best thing to do is, try them all out and see what you like. My recommendation is Bindroid for sense, Absolution for AOSP.
Believe me, reading is key and you clearly get that. I just don't want to see you make a mistake that could have been easily prevented ya know! If you want my personal take on why I recommend the above roms, PM and I'll share.
Well, after looking through the stickies, i have a question. Is there a glossary of terms for the inspire? I'm trying to learn about procedures and processes on this device but most of its Greek to me. I know rooting and flashing, basic stuff. But S off/on, eng off/on, hboot,etc. I currently use a Captivate and those are terms I'm not familiar with.
thats pretty much what i was asking xD
Ok, Google answered my questions. And i have read the effin manual. Probably read it 2 or 3 more times. Just in case.
Friends that are asking about radio and rooting just check out the inspire or w.e phone your looking to get and read about the radios and rils to see what they do and most if not all roms talks about the radio ril
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Hello, I have a htc inspire and I have rooted it a few months back. I do not have a lot of time to spend here. wish I did but I don't. I have been looking around trying to find how too guides to do the basic stuff. Backing up rom, flashing custom rom to phone. I understand the flashing part. I am looking to find out how to back up my current rom. it is a stock rom. would love to start trying out custom roms on my phone. I don't care if I brick my phone, just do not want to brick it because I didn't know how to do basic stuff. I will keep looking, for the guides on soft ware. I have root explorer astro and other software to back up the roms but not knowing how to use them sucks. if someone could point me in the right direction would be great. thanks again.
can the mod please move this to the proper fourms sorry did not know not to post a question in this fourms. thanks.
You should take time to read and google the information...no one will do your homework for you. If you brick your phone nobody will care but you, so take the time you have and go step by step...
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I have to agree with glevitan and the one thing I will say is, Google is your friend...
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Saying "I don't have a lot of time to spend on here" and asking others to do the work for you is the last thing you want to do on this site. Most of the people on here are more than willing to help if you at least give the impression of trying to help yourself first.
Yea, it's kind of like "i would love to help you with your needs, but this is a dev site and i dont really have the time to bother with it." Kind of has a different meaning when said back to you doesnt it?
I agree with everyone here, I was able to find everything I needed on Google and using that information I found, was able to root my phone and flash a custom ROM in less than a half an hour. Finding the information for yourself is the best and only way to learn. Read, read and read some more.
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As stated, if you are gonna run a custom rom then you will need to find the time to do the research and learn what you are doing.
Google is a great thing, also my sig contains a search plugin for Firefox or IE for XDA. This helps alot.
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Ok so I'm looking to root my HTC M7, I've been told the obvious problem already, I dont know enough yet to be rooting. Sorry, still want to try. That being said, I'm looking for some direction. A good site, a good video, anything or recommendations that will help me out. Yes I have gone to You Tube step by step videos but I always seem to run into a problem. For example, the person in the video says to follow a link below in description, I go and the link is no longer there. Or, maybe its there but takes me somewhere different than described. One of them even changed my browser to AVG (I know, I'm retarded).
Does anyone have any ideas on where to go, where to learn and where it will literally be a step by step?
By the way, the unlocking part seems easy enough. I think its from that point I run into trouble. Also, why? Everyone seems to want to know why. Simple, I would really like to learn for one. Second, I hate the garbage att lays in on me. Id like to mess with the speed (I've heard this is possible) and Id like more choices. I just want to keep the phone interesting. The last reason, I saw yesterday. If its not BS, Id like to get function from my HTC logo.
So I hope this is not to silly for all of you. If so, I do apologize.
Thanks, Chris
root htc m7
have you tried this?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...one-m7-and-install-recovery-xda-developer-tv/
Yes, it may sound repetitive but read, read and read it again. There is an incredible amount of knowledge contained throughout this site. Sometimes the smallest mistake/oversight can lead to a huge headache, that's why its so important to have a basic understanding of any modifications you are about to make. Start with the dedicated forum for ur service provider/phone. All the info your going to need will be included in the forum and subsequent sub-forums. Good luck and don't be afraid to ask questions, we've all been in the same spot before. Use the tools that the site provides, search for your answers and read thru the forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2222
Thanks.
Thanks for the help. I did end up finding more help in the dedicated area, especially when I went to my phones forums. Huge thanks for the encouragement. I will deff. read a little more before jumping off the cliff. Looks like the process has become much easier and people are developing all in one tools. Cool stuff, thanks again!