Over the past several weeks, any updates from the market usually become unresponsive. They will perpetually show downloading. At the same time, if I try to look at my application list, they just show "computing" and never complete so I can do something simple as clear the cache.
When I reboot, it sometimes takes 5-15 minutes for the apps on my SD card to show up. Once they do, the market works for a while and once it goes unresponsive, I have to reboot if I want to do any app updates. The rest of the phone seems to work fine however.
I do use a class 4 microSD card as my expansion and about 80% of my apps are there.
I have hard reset and erased my micsoSD card one already.
Any suggestions?
Brian
This problem seems to have gone away...still takes a while to scan all of my apps then going into Manage Applications though.
when you went to my apps in the market, did your apps show up?
for the last 4 days, i only show 3 apps in my market, none of my other 30 or so apps including purchases show up.
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Hi, I've started this thread to get some advice from the members who are experienced in modding their phones.
As lots of G1 owners did, I greedily installed app after app until i was running low on space and ended up getting rid of a load. By this time my phone was running slowly anyway.
After recently playing with JF 1.5 then going to the official cupcake release, i have now only installed 24 apps and have 60mb free internal memory - so plenty of space for the browser/maps/youtube caches to grow.
My problem is understanding exactly how the system works though. How can I force each app to continue running in the background until I go back to it?
When first opening an app it takes anything from 0.5sec (dialer) to 17sec (maps) to go from the initial blank screen to actually drawing the app interface on the screen. This is fine when you first use an app, and if you go home then back to the app this is pretty much instant because the app is still running.
My problem however is the small number of apps the system allows to keep running before closing them, it only seems to be about 4 or so, and when you reopen an app you used a little while ago then you have to go through the painfully slow initial waiting while the app interface is drawn on the screen.
My questions really then are:
1. How many apps does the system keep running, and can this be increased? If so, then how & at what price?
2. Is there a way to force the system to always keep certain apps running and not close them (apps I use repeatedly througout the day, such as gmail, chompsms, browser)? I want the instant snappiness all the time for these apps.
3. Can I force the system to close other memory/processor hog apps as soon as I finish using them (maps, youtube, gallery)?
4. Will moving my apps and dalvik cache to a really fast class 8 microsd card help the speed of my phone in any way? Or is this just a way to increase free space on my phone memory?
Thanks in advance for any answers/advice/help!
17 sec for map? Something is wrong. I just opened my map and it took 2 sec to open up the map, another 1 sec to get my rough location. I was inside so I can't comment on getting exact GPS location but, if I had to guess, usually it's about 4-5 sec to lock onto that.
Now onto your question: Android manages it's own memory and there's no way of telling it how to manage it. You can do couple of things:
1) Get an "Open Overclocker" and increase the speed of you CPU to 384/528Mhz from stock 284/384Mhz
2) Get "Task Manager for root users" which will let you shut down programs that you don't use.
3) Reduce the number of widgets you have installed. In my experience, all of the news widgets run in the background even if you don't have them on your screen.
4) Clear you caches regularly (once a day). Very important.
5) Reboot your phone once a day.
Good luck.
borodin1 said:
17 sec for map? Something is wrong. I just opened my map and it took 2 sec to open up the map, another 1 sec to get my rough location. I was inside so I can't comment on getting exact GPS location but, if I had to guess, usually it's about 4-5 sec to lock onto that.
Now onto your question: Android manages it's own memory and there's no way of telling it how to manage it. You can do couple of things:
1) Get an "Open Overclocker" and increase the speed of you CPU to 384/528Mhz from stock 284/384Mhz
2) Get "Task Manager for root users" which will let you shut down programs that you don't use.
3) Reduce the number of widgets you have installed. In my experience, all of the news widgets run in the background even if you don't have them on your screen.
4) Clear you caches regularly (once a day). Very important.
5) Reboot your phone once a day.
Good luck.
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I've just opened my map again after rebooting the phone (and ensuring wifi is switched on, so there's no delay in downloading data for the map) and it took 7sec from hitting the icon until i had a map drawn on my screen. So perhaps the 17 sec was a one off. Even still, it feels painfully slow.
I will look into rooting my phone, and the over clocking and the TaskManager.
The only widgets i have installed are the google search bar, and a playlist.
Any thoughts on moving my apps/dalvik cache to a fast sd card? I think i read somewhere that a class 6 sd card is about the same speed as the internal memory in the G1, so would a class 8 card be even faster than this with regard to loading apps up?
Thanks for your advice so far!
There are multiple discussions about that and at this point it sounds like it does not matter where you caches are in terms of speed. Don't ask me why, I'm not that tech savy. Most people move caches to save space and to avoid clearing them every day. The beauty of this is that you can try it out and go back if you think it's not for you.
Also... look into what apps do you have on your phone, some of them may bog down system significantly. I know for sure that Phonebook from VoxMobile will, there are few others, can't remember which though, look for the thread about it from couple of months ago.
Good luck.
Thanks borodin1!
You do realize, unless the section of the map is cached, it has to be downloaded over your wireless connection right? (and cell networks has a very long latency.)
As to your questions 1-3, all running tasks are managed by the android system and non-active ones are terminated if memory is required by an active program. You cannot control this, but you can kill running apps if you want.
Also due to the slow nature of the terrible dalvik VM, you can't get much performance improvement by moving the dalvik-cache. I suppose you can get some boost by increasing the CPU speed, but the battery life will be much shorter.
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You do realize, unless the section of the map is cached, it has to be downloaded over your wireless connection right? (and cell networks has a very long latency.)
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Which is why people move caches to the card and don't have that problem
but the map app does not use /cache. the latter is designed for non-transient temporary storage, not for big chunks of junk like the map.
I more or less like how android is managing apps on it's own, but sometimes it's just too random. I want some apps to just keep in memory no matter what.
Sometimes I get out of an app 1, do something in app 2 for 10 minutes then get back to app 1 and it turns on instantly. In other cases I go from app 1 to app 2, do 1 second thing, get back to app 1 and it has to load for 10 seconds because Android already cleared it from memory. When I have to make 1 second jumps a lot and half of the time android decides it has to add me 10 second wait it gets just frustrating.
I've found dozens of task managers, but all they do is let me kill apps manually to free the memory(which I don't really see point of, as the most I cleared was probably about 6 megs) and easily swap between apps. But problem is the swapping is worth nothing if apps have to load every time.
I am just looking for app/a way to force android never to clear memory of chosen apps until I kill them manually. It would do wonders for ebook reader, which sometimes has to open big epubs, and all of them take a while opening it. I might want to add dialer app to it too, as it starts a bit too slow when android decides it's unnecessary in memory.
I know that spare parts can make home screen try to keep in memory, so there should be possibility to force other apps to try to keep in memory, right?
The android market on my captivate is slow, it'll take anywhere from 15-25 seconds to load a page sometimes. Also my music player is sluggish, I only have about 300 songs on there right now and the player lags a little bit. Anyone else having these problems?
I also face the same problem with android market.
Any application takes a while to start installing, sometimes even upto 10-15 mins for the installation to start.
I reset my phone to factory settings a couple of times before and still this problem exists.
I know this may sound a bit crazy, i think the GPS malfunction on this device has got to be somehow connected with all the lag.. (Most of the applications required your current location, and maybe the GPS gets activated or something like that).
I know it may sound lame, am not a software guy, but i am just thinking that it may be the case!
Same for me with the Android Market lag... of course my GPS too but that's a given :-(
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hmm, i dont use the music player (pandora ftw) but i do use the market quite a bit. I havn't noticed any page loading lag (this could be due to you reception) but now that i've hit 50 apps, when i install new ones, the phone has a brain fart while its installing and becomes generally slower untill the install completes. However downloads and installs dont take any longer than normal...
yeah my installing is fine, it's just when i try to load pages. Sometimes it'll take 15-20 seconds to load the page and it's quite annoying. I tried clearing the cache from manage applications settings but that didn't do much.
wheres FROYO!!!!!!!!!
Simple solution that helped for me on several phones.
Exit all applications.
Go to Settings => Accounts & Sync => Uncheck Background Data and confirm
Quit all screens with back button
Start Market => You will receive a message that Market can't run without Background Data => click Activate => Enable Background Data and click the back button
Now test Market again
Enjoy!
If you are rooted the OCLF helps this issue immensely. I had it installed and just uninstalled the OCLF to see if there was any difference in load times and I'm ready to reinstall, it helps out a lot!
About half a year ago, some of the system apps started to malfunction. Most noticeable is gallery - it closes immediately after trying to load thumbnails.
Photo viewer, which comes with gallery, also crashes a second after loading, without even showing a picture.
Google Play Market crashes randomly, with usually a minute after loading, or just nearly instantly.
Sometimes after rebooting, if Bluetooth was disabled, it just won't turn on again, until i reboot it several times.
There's also random weird "fast" reboots, when my phone crashes(???) and automatically reboots, and... does it much faster than usual, manual reboot.
This is a very weird case and i was unable to find any information about this, but something tells me it might be some kind of memory corruption? I've tried to do standard procedures of erasing app's cache data, downgrading them and so on, and nothing helped.
Phone is rooted with Magisk and has TWRP.
I have a very old V30 from 2018, I just love this thing too much to upgrade. I've taken good care of it, replaced the battery, haven't dropped it or anything. Recently I've noticed that the UI drops to 15fps every few seconds. It affects everything, even just basic scrolling through apps in the home screen, scrolling through web pages, Discord, etc. I did a test where I just used my finger to scroll up and down continuously on the home screen and it would be smooth for a few seconds, then 15fps ish stutter, then smooth again, then stutter, repeat. It seems to be https://omegle.onl/ vshare consistent too, not random. Almost a rhythm at this point. Rebooting doesn't fix it, and I've tried to remove a bunch of apps and my storage is far from full.
What could it be? A virus? Some app in the background mining without me knowing? Should I reset the phone completely? Or is it maybe time to upgrade (to a new V30 hahahaha)
What Android version?
Any new or updated apps?
How much available ram?
How much available internal storage?
Scan with Malwarebytes. Clear system cache if you have that option.
Hard reboot (not factory reset!!!)
Use SD Maid to clean it up.
See what services are running and their ram usage. Any app that shouldn't be there?