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MT4G to be launched in Canada as HTC Emerald /w Android 2.3 + HTC Sense

http://www.androidbugle.com/2011/04/htc-glaciermytouch-4g-to-hit-mobilicity.html
Once system dumps are obtained, maybe a 100% compatible HTC Sense 2.3 ROM can be cooked?

Taknarosh said:
http://www.androidbugle.com/2011/04/htc-glaciermytouch-4g-to-hit-mobilicity.html
Once system dumps are obtained, maybe a 100% compatible HTC Sense 2.3 ROM can be cooked?
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You can be 100% sure that the dev won't let this past. Looks like our updates to GB looks alot better now hehe
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epsix said:
You can be 100% sure that the dev won't let this past. Looks like our updates to GB looks alot better now hehe
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Yeah, hopefully this allows for a bug-free Gingerbread/Sense ROM on our mt4g's.

I take away two things from this. First, it shows just how much T-Mobile SUCKS. Why they insist on having a fugly, customized (read bastardized) version of Sense on their HTC phones. Second, why they can't come out with a Gingerbread update in a timely manner is beyond me. The EVO will have Gingerbread in two months, and that phone isn't near as powerful and came out long before the MT4G! Rant over.
This is actually awesome news. This could give us the kernel source we've been waiting for forever, in addition to a ROM that can be directly ported (much like the Desire HD ROMs).

TeeJay3800 said:
I take away two things from this. First, it shows just how much T-Mobile SUCKS. Why they insist on having a fugly, customized (read bastardized) version of Sense on their HTC phones. Second, why they can't come out with a Gingerbread update in a timely manner is beyond me. The EVO will have Gingerbread in two months, and that phone isn't near as powerful and came out long before the MT4G! Rant over.
This is actually awesome news. This could give us the kernel source we've been waiting for forever, in addition to a ROM that can be directly ported (much like the Desire HD ROMs).
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Actually the mt4g will get gingerbread, its been confirmed by tmonews!

smooth3d said:
Actually the mt4g will get gingerbread, its been confirmed by tmonews!
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Yes I know, that's why in my second paragraph I express my happiness about that development.

i think he means mt4g us is getting an ota update, could be wrong though.

darinmc said:
i think he means mt4g us is getting an ota update, could be wrong though.
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If it takes till June the Mobilicity HTC Emerald will hopefully be out before then.
And it's running the nicer (IMO) version of Sense!

2.3 is already scheduled for Q2
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I love tmobile's twist on sense, I never stay on another ROM (Cyanogen, Desire ports, or anything) cuz they're not like our stock sense. Even if it compromises speed/memory or something, I doubt it's not much what with all the power our phone has. Just my opinion, so an official tmobile release is gonna be rad!
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Taknarosh said:
If it takes till June the Mobilicity HTC Emerald will hopefully be out before then.
And it's running the nicer (IMO) version of Sense!
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Doesn't matter if Canada have new sense its still sense 2.1 we have alot of roms running Sense 2.1. We just need the kernel and the lib so we can fix all Sense 2.3.3
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epsix said:
Doesn't matter if Canada have new sense its still sense 2.1 we have alot of roms running Sense 2.1. We just need the kernel and the lib so we can fix all Sense 2.3.3
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Good point, yeah all you need is the kernel. Point is it will be out before the update is pushed to T-Mo users.

theres a new ROM now that has the 2.3 update .

http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/05/11/a...ail-at-mobilicity-for-499-99-launch-imminent/
They'll be calling it the HTC "Panache".
I noticed the Genius button is gone, back to a plain old search button.
I hope they don't lock down this variant as stringently as the Incredible S. I wonder if there's any hardware differences that'd make it incompatible with a RUU from the MT4G?
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I'm currently using the ROM right now and I think it runs great.
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AndrewAD3 said:
I'm currently using the ROM right now and I think it runs great.
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Stock Sense is less hungry than Mysense/espresso IMHO. Mysense has genius plus other crap in the background compared to stock so it uses more ram.

Ace42 said:
Stock Sense is less hungry than Mysense/espresso IMHO. Mysense has genius plus other crap in the background compared to stock so it uses more ram.
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Sense has to be the most streamlined custom UI out there.

eliasadrian said:
I love tmobile's twist on sense, I never stay on another ROM (Cyanogen, Desire ports, or anything) cuz they're not like our stock sense. Even if it compromises speed/memory or something, I doubt it's not much what with all the power our phone has. Just my opinion, so an official tmobile release is gonna be rad!
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Aosp is quite a bit faster and leaner. Phone runs well on stock sense but I've been on cm7 for 5 months and I'm not looking back.
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HTC Panache Rom
You can install this rom from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079091
Is the Stock version of HTC Panache / HTC Emerald of Canada.
Work Great!
If you want to install the Royal Panache with a few mods ...
Install from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074783

Why would the GB update come with Sense 2.1 and not 3.0?

Topic.
(http://www.androidcentral.com/thunderbolt-update-may-bring-gingerbread-skype-video-along-reboot-fix)

I was wondering that myself when I saw this ...
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YankInDaSouth said:
I was wondering that myself when I saw this ...
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I think it has been stated that we would only get sense 2.1 when our GB comes. Plus if you remember the leak did have 2.1.

If I'm not mistaken, the evo has gb now but sense is still the same as it was when the phone came out a year ago. It seems to be HTCs MO to only upgrade sense on newer devices and leave the rest out in the cold.
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This is why we root our phones, so when HTC decides that our phone cant handle sense 3.0 when really it can we can still get it

They've already stated they feel its too CPU taxing for their 1Ghz single core processors. Simple as that. Judging by the reviews of the Sensation's speed/lag they may be on to something for a STOCK CPU tune where they are interested in longevity and reliably as opposed to us rooters who don't mind pushing all the hardware for everything It's worth. From personal experience the 3.0 port/preview NEEDS overclocking to perform well, something that ain't happening in an OTA update.
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stanlalee said:
They've already stated they feel its too CPU taxing for their 1Ghz single core processors. Simple as that. Judging by the reviews of the Sensation's speed/lag they may be on to something for a STOCK CPU tune where they are interested in longevity and reliably as opposed to us rooters who don't mind pushing all the hardware for everything It's worth. From personal experience the 3.0 port/preview NEEDS overclocking to perform well, something that ain't happening in an OTA update.
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just adding my two cents. had made a thread earlier and I along with a few others I know and have read about feel that it isn't sense that is causing lag, but the fact that the dual core does not run simultaneously like the tegra 2 and exynos. but like I said, that's just my opinion.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I don't like sense 3.0. It's starting to become distracting to android and not just a skin...

I honestly don't know a thing about sense 3. I was just wondering why the tb wasnt getting it
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HTC has already come out and said that parts of Sense 3 are incompatible with older devices but they will be bringing the elements that are still compatible over to Sense that is compatible with the device.

Neverendingxsin said:
This is why we root our phones, so when HTC decides that our phone cant handle sense 3.0 when really it can we can still get it
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Agree 100%, we already have the option for Sense 3.0 thanks to dasBAMF and it's only going to get better and better.

Guys just so you know that update you see is fake. It was made by some trolls. But yes it will be 2.1
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Nikolai2.1 said:
Guys just so you know that update you see is fake. It was made by some trolls. But yes it will be 2.1
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Source?
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I'm just happy I can use das bamf to have a lot of the sense 3.0 elements. So far I've been able to run it smoothly but I do overclock...

I'm running Das Bamf 3 pr 4. Very happy with it and love sense 3. No lag issues that I have noticed. No special settings other than stock rom settings. Not surprising that HTC is staying conservative.

DasBAMF Sense 3.0 available in Development threads now. Hmm, works just fine on my phone. Thanks to XDA Devs. They're the Best.

Neverendingxsin said:
This is why we root our phones, so when HTC decides that our phone cant handle sense 3.0 when really it can we can still get it
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Amen, brother. +1!

GB updates stock to 2.1 so you're forced to buy a new HTC phone with Sense 3.0 if you really want it.
Or you could just root and flash BAMF Sense 3.0 GB RC1... your call.

iheartrevenge said:
GB updates stock to 2.1 so you're forced to buy a new HTC phone with Sense 3.0 if you really want it.
Or you could just root and flash BAMF Sense 3.0 GB RC1... your call.
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Exactly. They consider Sense 3.0 to be a big selling point. They'd rather you buy a new phone that includes it than give it to you as a free update. They've already got our money at this point.

I think ima just give them more money and by EVO 3d...
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Sense 3.5?

They are working on a Sense 3.5 ROM for the incredible, anyone working on this for the T-Bolt?

We (Team BAMF) are. Not sure if we will stick with it.

I think you should. Sense 3.5 might be different, but it's definitely an improvement. It seems to be running buttery smooth right from the getgo on the Desire HD, unlike Sense 3.0 which not only (apparently) required a lot more work to port, but still ran choppy on even dual-core devices like the Sensation.
Plus, I like the new look. n_n

Yes, but GSM to GSM ports are like...cake compared to GSM to CDMA.

adrynalyne said:
Yes, but GSM to GSM ports are like...cake compared to GSM to CDMA.
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Awesome.
Thanks for the laugh. I needed it, crummy week for me.
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adrynalyne said:
Yes, but GSM to GSM ports are like...cake compared to GSM to CDMA.
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That's true, but wasn't the Bliss rumored to have CDMA radios as well? (that would make it a world phone)

adrynalyne said:
We (Team BAMF) are. Not sure if we will stick with it.
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i think 3.5 looks like **** IMO.

fixxxer2008 said:
i think 3.5 looks like **** IMO.
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Ditto
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Th3ory
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...waiting for the \/IGOR...

please keep up the work Team Bamf! Sense 3.5 would be amazing!

Pretty much couldn't care less.

If you don't care for it, move along, some of us would like it, or atleast try it. I am sure it will be nice for those that like sense.

fillyo said:
If you don't care for it, move along, some of us would like it, or atleast try it. I am sure it will be nice for those that like sense.
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No, i love sense and hate 3.5, i think they made it to sway aosp users over. Horrible fail.
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If you don't like it, don't flash it to your phone.

fixxxer2008 said:
i think 3.5 looks like **** IMO.
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I'm kind of on the fence about it. I wouldnt mind being able to play with it a little bit. Either way, wouldnt replace aosp for me.
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Really? Come in here, just to say that you don't care? Lovely person, aren't you?

EggoEspada said:
I'm kind of on the fence about it. I wouldnt mind being able to play with it a little bit. Either way, wouldnt replace aosp for me.
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That's exactly how I feel minus the part about AOSP. I'm just more of a sense guy I guess but I certainly don't have anything against AOSP.
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Been watching videos of Sense 3.5
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lpOf-iS5h0 )
I never imagined that the 3D UI of 3.0 would be so smooth. I had to go back to Sense 2.1 because every 3.0 rom I tried was so incredibly laggy. The new widgets, improvements to the apps and widgets, improvements in speed, and the rotation animation (something I've wanted ever since I got the OG Droid) definitely make me excited to try it out.

I can say that team bamf is the only team I know is working on it. It is going to be getting quite as far as thunderbolt development for a while. A lot of amazing people here are on leave and they deserve it.
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I loaded it on my Droid Incredibe last night and played with it for a few hours. I like it and will run it on my Thunderbolt when a ROM drops.

SENSE 4.0 Port

I was wondering if any dev was working on a port of sense 4.0 from the HTC Endeavour RUU leak? I'm going to look into it.

Need ICS for Sense 4.0

I'm sure when the Tbolt gets it's ICS update (however long that might take... probably towards the end of the year if I had to guess ) we will get a Sense 4.0 port working.
We will probably see Sense 3.6 with the official update though.

I have a feeling sense 4.0 will be running like crap on the bolt. Still would be cool to try though.
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rajuabju said:
I have a feeling sense 4.0 will be running like crap on the bolt. Still would be cool to try though.
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Well, Sense 4.0 is supposed to be lighter than 3.0/3.5. 3.5 works pretty smooth on the Tbolt. Its hard to say though. Even if it isn't smooth, it would be cool to try out.
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like he said above..don't expect 4.0...we will deff be getting 3.6 officially..but hey once we get ICS and 3.6 who says someone wont make a 4.0 port that will work well?

musicfreak190 said:
like he said above..don't expect 4.0...we will deff be getting 3.6 officially..but hey once we get ICS and 3.6 who says someone wont make a 4.0 port that will work well?
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Well said. HTC said 3.0 wouldn't work well (which I still agree with......) but 3.5 runs smooth as butter on my Tbolt, so I say 4.0 will work well at some point.

most stable rom.

hey all, looking to flash the most stable rom for the inspire out there! anyone wanna give me a few good stable roms?

Anything gingerbread is rock solid. ClearDroid and Virtuous Unity are my favorite for Sense and Gingerbeast and Absolution rock if you want to be senseless. The ICS roms are stable enough for daily use but might have small issues that keep them from being the right choice for you. Personally, I love Redemption but there are others that have more active development. I haz not tried jellybean but I would guess that is the same or worse when compared to ICS. You will have to try some out and see what works best for you.
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Warrior 3000 said:
hey all, looking to flash the most stable rom for the inspire out there! anyone wanna give me a few good stable roms?
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Anything based on stock will be the most stable. 2.47.502.7 and 3.20.502.52. Att just released the last base with sense 3.0. I'm on blackout Ics right now and really am enjoying it. It is sense and Ics. But as always try them out and see what you like. No single rom is for everyone.

The one you find stable when you try them out. Anything else is strictly opinion and these threads are not allowed
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I don't think he is outta line really. Not the usual "what's the best Rom" thread which isn't allowed. Just looking for stability which actually there are more stable roms than others. Stock being the most stable.
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Gizmoe said:
Anything based on stock will be the most stable. 2.47.502.7 and 3.20.502.52. Att just released the last base with sense 3.0. I'm on blackout Ics right now and really am enjoying it. It is sense and Ics. But as always try them out and see what you like. No single rom is for everyone.
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This...minus Blackout ICS..I'm still using Abso 3.7 (have been for the last 3 months or so)..I've heard great things about blackout though..I'm impressed after my hiatus from XDA that people are a little less quick to fire bomb someone asking a question that has been asked numerous times before. :good::good: and it's been a while Gizmore!

MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
This...minus Blackout ICS..I'm still using Abso 3.7 (have been for the last 3 months or so)..I've heard great things about blackout though..I'm impressed after my hiatus from XDA that people are a little less quick to fire bomb someone asking a question that has been asked numerous times before. :good::good: and it's been a while Gizmore!
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Yes it has been a while. I just recently returned too a few weeks ago. Had to put down the phone for a while back in January.
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Gizmoe said:
I don't think he is outta line really. Not the usual "what's the best Rom" thread which isn't allowed. Just looking for stability which actually there are more stable roms than others. Stock being the most stable.
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But he uses his phone different than you and his phone isn't your phone thus what may be stable for you isn't stable for others
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Nick281051 said:
But he uses his phone different than you and his phone isn't your phone thus what may be stable for you isn't stable for others
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Actually his phone is my phone. Both Inspire™4G. What was made to actually run on this phone is going to be the most stable. Thats just a fact. As far as preference in options and ui then thats opinion.
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Gizmoe said:
Actually his phone is my phone. Both Inspire™4G. What was made to actually run on this phone is going to be the most stable. Thats just a fact. As far as preference in options and ui then thats opinion.
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Not necessarily, his phone is the same model, but they aren't the same exact device. Also, that isn't necessarily true, at&t's last update was completely broken and unstable. Any rom in the section was made to work with our phone and can run it just as good as an at&t built rom. Most times better.
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Nick281051 said:
Not necessarily, his phone is the same model, but they aren't the same exact device. Also, that isn't necessarily true, at&t's last update was completely broken and unstable. Any rom in the section was made to work with our phone and can run it just as good as an at&t built rom. Most times better.
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I agree that 2.47.502.7 was buggy and I did not like it even when devs re cooked it. As for the last update 3.20.502.52 or even the original Rom they ran flawlessly. And to use roms with these bases was really all I was saying to him. Just stick to roms built off of these for the most stable experience. I've spent quite amount of time unrooted and also running every Rom you could possibly flash on this device and when I am on an actual inspire base every part of the phone runs the way it should ( with the exception of 2.47.502.7). I think we agree, I just meant roms based off stock, not necessarily stock itself.
As for what Rom to run that differs all together. I'm on an Ics sense Rom that was never intended for our device but I'm willing to live with a little instability for more options and Ics
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Stable roms = Gingerbread
Small issue roms = ICS and JellyBean
Is all you need to know. We can use DHD roms on our Inspires if you want to take look at that forum as well.
You will have to test a rom out for yourself cause what may be awesome to one person may be utter crap to others its yp to your preference.
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Reinaldo33897 said:
Stable roms = Gingerbread
Small issue roms = ICS and JellyBean
Is all you need to know. We can use DHD roms on our Inspires if you want to take look at that forum as well.
You will have to test a rom out for yourself cause what may be awesome to one person may be utter crap to others its yp to your preference.
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This is pretty much all I was trying to say
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This is pretty much all I was trying to say
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And what I said in the first reply.
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And what I said in the first reply.
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Yes I agree. Gingerbread is most stable. Some dhd base though have minor issues like agps not updating accurately, scanner apps not reading barcodes, battery drain, intermittent WiFi/data issues, Sound problems.. etc. Nothing major though. My favorite dhd base was the sense 3.0 update they got. Runs the smoothest imo. Sense 3.5 and up gets a little clunky.
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Gizmoe said:
Yes I agree. Gingerbread is most stable. Some dhd base though have minor issues like agps not updating accurately, scanner apps not reading barcodes, battery drain, intermittent WiFi/data issues, Sound problems.. etc. Nothing major though. My favorite dhd base was the sense 3.0 update they got. Runs the smoothest imo. Sense 3.5 and up gets a little clunky.
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Sense 3.5 was actually the sensation xl, very similar hardware. I kinda liked it my favorite being erebus xl, dev recently updated it and it is pretty sweet
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Sense 3.5 was actually the sensation xl, very similar hardware. I kinda liked it my favorite being erebus xl, dev recently updated it and it is pretty sweet
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Yeah I really do like 3.5. The options are definitely worth it. I used to be on bindroid team and we had it running pretty good. I haven't tried any gb based ones recently I bet they got em running pretty smooth now.
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As stated before, Gingerbread ROMs are generally more stable than ICS ROMs. That said, my favorite is Primo-S v3.5. Its ICS + Sense 4.0A. Its not the most stable mod out there, but extremely stable, enough t be used as a daily driver. The most stable I've tried is of course Cyanogenmod 7. Second is Android Revolution HD.
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I am looking for a stock rooted rom, i rooted and jailbroke the phone but now there is no sound, every where i look that has it the links are broken, can i please get some help...

stdroid said:
I am looking for a stock rooted rom, i rooted and jailbroke the phone but now there is no sound, every where i look that has it the links are broken, can i please get some help...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810461? I believe it works, I flashed it just a couple days ago...