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Secretly tethering

Is there a way to tether without your carrier knowing? What does the carrier even look at to know you're tethering? I'm on i-wireless in Cincinnati. I have TRULY unlimited 3g, but when I tether I just get a splash screen saying my plan doesn't allow tethering. I'd pay for it, but that's not an option. The real **** part is that even browsing within my phone gives me that splash screen afterwards. Sometimes I can fix it by playing with APNs but I usually have to call and have them reset the data.
Thoughts?
#AngelFace#

Are you rooted? Tethering wirelessly or using a cable? What app are you using?

I'm using a rooted HTC glacier, or mytouch 4g, and I've tried using the built in tethering on cm7, as well as wireless tether for root users. Both resulted in the splash page, but AndroidAP allowed me to get to Google.com once. Could have been a fluke though.
#AngelFace#

I also got the masqed crusader app, hoping to hide my tethering. It allowed me to use the built in hotspots app, but same results. Wifi tether for root didn't work at all with this running.
#AngelFace#

[Q] Wifi tethering for root users

Able to wifi tether to apple devices, but no luck with laptops or android devices. " does support ad hoc network" What wifi tether programs are others using? Thanks

wifi tether works. i used it this past weekend for 2 days.

if youre already rooted, you can just use native tethering. just delete tethermanager from /system/app no need for barnacle of wifi tether for root.

The Jack of Clubs said:
if youre already rooted, you can just use native tethering. just delete tethermanager from /system/app no need for barnacle of wifi tether for root.
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What does this mean? I downloaded wifi tether and then uninstalled it, but would like to be able to tether my tablet when we are on vacation. I am rooted.

android has the ability to tether out of the box.
carriers disable that and charge like $20 extra if you wanna be able to tether.
if you use titanium backup and freeze tethermanager.apk (or whatever it is called) you get the ability to wifi tether again without messing with any other third party apps.

look for it in /system/app and once you freeze it delete it or whatever you want to do with it, go to settings > wireless and network > mobile ap. if tether manager is gone you are able to use this native mode already on your phone to tether all you like. i would steer clear of apps like pdanet and tether for root, as usage of these apps appears to be sent back to att by tethermanager.

Is the built in tethering part of AT&Ts "bloatware"? I may have deleted it using Titanium Backup.
Is there a way to get it back?
Thanks in advance.

Thx it worked for me . I installed busy box as root user , then installed titaniumbackup . i went to backup restore tab. Froze tether manager then uninstalled tether manager and it works flawlessly now . Thx forums
Samsung infuse 4G

Yes!
It's these kinds threads that make me want to buy you guys a beer! As a new android user, I know very little, but when I ignore the haters/trolls/ignorant people, and smart asses, I find gems like this. To think I almost paid for it because of the salesman insisting that tethering through AT&T was the ONLY way. Thanks a bunch to all you guys who give back.

Thanks! Worked like charm. AT&T go kick rocks!

Mobile AP warning message
I am running Infused 1.5 on my phone. So from what I am reading in several tethering threads, I am able to use the native app for tethering. When I use MobileAP, the original warning message is still there "A Tethering/Mobile Hotspot plan is required...."
Sorry if this is a noob question, but is this message not supposed to be there anymore? or did I do something wrong?

yes you should not be getting that message. check to see if tethermanager is still in /system/app.

sobeast101 said:
I am running Infused 1.5 on my phone. So from what I am reading in several tethering threads, I am able to use the native app for tethering. When I use MobileAP, the original warning message is still there "A Tethering/Mobile Hotspot plan is required...."
Sorry if this is a noob question, but is this message not supposed to be there anymore? or did I do something wrong?
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I was just about to post a similar question Im also on infused 1.5 and just tried the tethering, the message your talking about is the one at the top of the screen that doesn't go away that says "Tethering/Mobile hotspot plan is required to use this service. Please ect...." the one I was getting before I installed. The infused 1.5 I would click on the mobile AP box to turn on the tethering and a message saying I didn't have the service would pop up and turn off the tethering but that doesn't happen anymore I also just checked my plan features and tethering does not show up. I remember reading one of the features of the infused 1.5 was tethering but I didn't know how it worked until I read this thread. Thank you guys

But if I'm running Infused, why woukd that file still exist?
So you think I would be ok ignoring the message?
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The Jack of Clubs said:
look for it in /system/app and once you freeze it delete it or whatever you want to do with it, go to settings > wireless and network > mobile ap. if tether manager is gone you are able to use this native mode already on your phone to tether all you like. i would steer clear of apps like pdanet and tether for root, as usage of these apps appears to be sent back to att by tethermanager.
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And about the message, if its the one that is on the top of the screen and not the one that pops up when u turn on the tethering I would ignore it.

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not sure if am doing this right ,,,
but I did manage to FREEZE " the Therering manager via Tit'um
and yet I cannt connect to ATT @ their hot spots
what else do I need ?
thanks in advance

Hot spots? Isn't this ment for connecting your phone to your labtop/computer to share your phone's internet?

lalojamesliz said:
Hot spots? Isn't this ment for connecting your phone to your labtop/computer to share your phone's internet?
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Yes, also called wifi tethering or mobile access point. You can enable this in wireless settings if you pay extra for a tethering plan or remove tether manager.
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The Jack of Clubs said:
Yes, also called wifi tethering or mobile access point. You can enable this in wireless settings if you pay extra for a tethering plan or remove tether manager.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA App
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Okay wait, so just freezing tethermanager wont work. I'd have to uninstall it to tether? I'm running stock rooted btw

i still dont know what freezing means, but it doesnt sound very guaranteed. tethermanager is malicious at best so i just completely delete it, theres no advantage to keeping it around.

[HOW-TO] Enable Wifi and USB Tethering on AT&T Samsung Galaxy S4 with Android 4.3 MK2

[HOW-TO] Enable Wifi and USB Tethering on AT&T Samsung Galaxy S4 with Android 4.3 MK2
After some research on various forums including this one, I got both Wifi and USB Tethering working on my AT&T Samsung Galaxy S4 with Android 4.3 (build MK2). Figure others may look for similar solutions so I put together the steps I used in this post.
1. Background
I have been tethering with SVTP (paid version) since acquiring the Galaxy S4 in June 2013, with my unlimited data plan. Then it stopped working after a week when AT&T pushed out the software update. Furious, I googled around and found the "Click the home button when the checking popup appears" trick, and had been happily tethering, until AT&T push another update (MK2) two weeks ago. It defeated that trick and none of the tethering apps work. Oh man, not again!
I googled again and found FoxFi. The wifi tethering didn't work (it only work on Verizon as reported(), but the USB and Bluetooth tethering do work. I am relived as I had a temporal solution. However, both the USB and Bluetooth tethering drop and resume the internet connection every minute. Very annoying when downloading a bigger file, or playing online games that require constant connection. Finally can't stand it anymore. I keep googling around and found there's no other solution except rooting the device. And I decide to take the risk and give it a shot.
2. Result
After following the steps, I was able to get all tethering apps works. Specifically all these works;
SVTP
ES File Manager
FoxFi
And, the native Tethering from the phone also work. This give me the hint that probably most, if not all, tethering apps should work.
Furthermore,the built-in USB tethering also work! Unlike the one from FoxFi, this one work continuously without dropping/resuming the connection every minute. This can be handy as you can charge your phone while tethering. Pretty cool, uh?
Last but not least, I disable the AT&T Software update, so I don't have to do this again
3. Steps
Here's the steps I used. I piece them together from various sources. Many thanks to the folks who put them together, and to the folks who tried before me and post the positive result. Basically you need do to a few things:
a. Root the device
b. Modify the tethering file
c. Turn on tethering and verify it works
d. Disable the AT&T Software update (Optional)
Please see the next post for details.

Steps
a. Root your device
Scary, isn't it? I was in the same boat and really hesitated to do it. However with no other option available it may worth a try. It does work well and give you good control of the phone. Worthy in my opinion, especially when it allows you to do what you want to do.
a1. If you are new to rooting your phone like me, some background reading may help:
http://www.kingoapp.com/help/android-rooting.htm
https://sites.google.com/site/tomsgt123/all-videos/samsung-galaxy-s4
a2. Watch this video as a preparation and confidence building:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uii_mYm8IGE&feature=youtu.be
a3. Root your device using the steps here. It echoes the steps in the video. Even though it is made for the Verizon model, it works on AT&T too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
b. Modify the tethering file:
b1. Follow the steps in the post. It works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2535141
b2. Pay attention to the mount /system as RW mode step. It is missing in the original post:
"I was not able to rename files or copy until I change 'Mount R/W'.
To do this, you click on globe/phone on top left corner.
Scroll down to "Root Explorer" and hold for a second or two.
When you let go, a pop-up screen appears. Click on Mount R/W,
and change "/system" from OR to RW."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48950107&postcount=87
c. Verify tethering works
c1. Use your favorite tethering app, it should work. Just disregard the AT&T Popup (click OK).
And if you don't use any tethering app before, rest at ease. Your phone's native Wifi and USB tethering also work. That maybe the best part as you don't need to purchase any "unlocked" version of those apps. Just go to "Settings->More networks->Tethering and portable hotspot". Turn on Mobile Hotspot and you can use Wifi tethering as usual.
c2. Or while at the same screen, connect your phone to the laptop with a USB cable and enable "USB tethering". Your laptop will automatically install a USB driver and you will be connected to the internet via USB. This option works especially well when all you need is connect one laptop to the internet. It not only saves the battery of your phone by not using Wifi, but also charge your battery while tethering!
c3. Stil not enough? How about make your laptop a wifi hotspot? Follow the steps here:
http://lifehacker.com/5369381/turn-your-windows-7-pc-into-a-wireless-hotspot
This way, you charge your phone while tethering using USB, your laptop is on the web, and others can connect to the internet via the Wifi hotspot on your laptop. It is a win-win-win situation
d. Finally, if you don't want to be annoyed in the future and redo all these again (which may or may not work anymore as they may close the door), turn of AT&T Software update. Follow the steps here:
Stopping AT&T Auto Software Update
Download and install "App Quarantine ROOT/FREEZE" from Play Store.
Open the app and go to settings by tapping on the wrench icon at the top right of the screen.
Uncheck the "Hide system services" option.
Go back to the app and select "AT&T Software update".
Tap on the lock icon on the top right of the screen.
It may ask you to enable the USB debugging.
Feel safe from AT&T's new attack
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387577
Again, many thanks to those who put the information together, and to those who tried it and proved it worked. You guys are great! Happy new year and happy tethering!

Good job!
I'm sure a lot of people will benefit from this.

I can verify that this method works perfectly for my ATT S4 Active ML2 - thank you!!!

Just found this thread today, I've been planning on rooting my phone for some time now and tethering is one of the biggest reasons why.
I just wanted to confirm that this fix has allowed you to tether using the native tethering function in android with an unlimited (grandfathered) AT&T data plan and you haven't had any problems with AT&T harassing you about it. I'm in the same boat and don't want to lose my unlimited data as I've heard as happened to some people.
Also thanks for the guide!

Does anyone know if this will work on non samsung AT&T phones. Like the HTC M8?

ProdigalHacker said:
Just found this thread today, I've been planning on rooting my phone for some time now and tethering is one of the biggest reasons why.
I just wanted to confirm that this fix has allowed you to tether using the native tethering function in android with an unlimited (grandfathered) AT&T data plan and you haven't had any problems with AT&T harassing you about it. I'm in the same boat and don't want to lose my unlimited data as I've heard as happened to some people.
Also thanks for the guide!
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Yes, it works fine with the AT&T unlimited data plan.

[Q] galaxy S5 tmobile wifi tethering free

Hey I'm trying to find a way to work around my hotspot tethering limit. I have unlimited data and want to use the most out of it, I have had unlimited data for about 3 weeks now and I have used 200 gigs of data and I want o be able to co next my Xbox and laptop for more than just a day or 2 because I only get 5 gigs of hotspot. So if anyone has a workaround for the tmobile s5 please comment and let me know

sgs5tetherhelp said:
Hey I'm trying to find a way to work around my hotspot tethering limit. I have unlimited data and want to use the most out of it, I have had unlimited data for about 3 weeks now and I have used 200 gigs of data and I want o be able to co next my Xbox and laptop for more than just a day or 2 because I only get 5 gigs of hotspot. So if anyone has a workaround for the tmobile s5 please comment and let me know
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Are you rooted?

Yes via towel root

sgs5tetherhelp said:
Yes via towel root
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.snclab.wifitetherrouter
I use it on my T-Mobile phones. Follow the link in the description for settings. Gotta warn ya though, it might not work without further tweaks. You might need to google up some more specific instructions. The problem with this app (not the app's fault though) is that every phone/brand/ROM is different and needs different settings, and unfortunately these settings don't have descriptions. Plus the author is Italian and his English ain't too good.
You'll probably also have to create a new APN for tethering. Go to your System Settings, More networks, Mobile Networks, Access Point Names, then hit the menu button to add a new APN. Copy everything in the default APN down, then make everything in the new APN exactly the same, but instead of IPv6, use IPv4.
For tethering to just your laptop though, I recommend PdaNet+ (not a root app) and using USB tethering. The reason is that using your phone as a wifi hotspot is a processor and battery hog, and the more it's used, the hotter your phone will get and the more your battery gets used (shortening its overall lifespan). USB tethering however basically turns your phone into a conduit, rather than a rebroadcaster, and won't fry your phone. It works by using a companion program on your computer (also does bluetooth, but it's much slower), and has the option (which you need to use) to "hide tether usage". Another cool feature is you can set it up so text messages will pop up on your computer. The one single issue with USB tethering with PdaNet is with Netflix. If you try to watch something, it'll take you to the page saying your computer doesn't meet the minimum system requirements. Whatever VPN/proxy/whatever that it uses to mask your usage doesn't jive with Microsoft Silverlight, which Netflix uses. The way around this is to disable the "hide tether usage" option when loading a video, and as soon as it starts loading, select "hide tether usage" again, and you're good to go.
The really cool thing is that these two apps work simultaneously. I use PdaNet to USB tether my phone to my laptop (which is plugged into my 42" TV). The same phone is running Wifi Tether Router so I can use my tablet on wifi. Seriously, how cool is that?!? Complete home internet and cell service for $89.08/month (after taxes).

Unlimited Tethering LG V10 Tmobile H901

So i've been a user of xda for quite sometime, however i never really contributed before so i'd like to share my latest discoveries and hopefully i can help someone in the future.
(Please note this is for intermediate users i will not be going into full details. Feel free to google any keywords here for further information)
Please note this will erase your device!
Disclaimer: I am not responsible for anything you do to your device ie: damages. Proceed at your own risk
This is a tutorial on how to get unlimited tethering on an LG V10 Tmobile
First you will need to unlock bootloader and get TWRP so you can flash SuperSU and get root.
I used a combination of these two guides. DOTtech i just used to get LGUP. I do not believe the .kdz (refurbish) step is necessary.
https://dottech.org/198032/how-to-root-lg-v10-t-mobile-h901-on-android-6-0-marshmallow/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-v10/general/root-android-6-0-h901-t3382819
make sure you use this .tot file from xda (most updated, July) link
once you have flashed the tot file. make sure you download supersu and save it on your phone. Link Here .You will need to boot into recovery mode. The best way i found to boot into recovery mode is to use "adb reboot recovery" command via adb command terminal. For help on setting up adb, usb debugging, and oem unlock. follow the youtube video below. Do not follow his recovery flash steps. (That is Outdated!). once you have adb set up, phone on, open a terminal, navigate to your adb folder and run the "adb reboot recovery" command. Phone will boot into TWRP. Find your SuperSU file. Flash it. You are now rooted!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPLwFGxLQA4
once you have root....
you will need wifi tether router from fabio grasso. Buy it. best money ever spent.
next you will need to edit your build prop.
download es file explorer. build prop is just a text file. enable root explorer in es file explorer. navigate to your root folder/system.
under system you will find build.prop. open with es text editor. at the end of the text file insert
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
hit back. and it will ask you to save. save it!
This will allow our wifi tether router app to work properly.
reboot your phone.
open your wifi tether router app. The most important setting here is under method. Use Native! This will tell wifi tether router to port it's connection through your native hotspot app.
You should now be ready to go.
Now, how do we prevent Tmobile from noticing our traffic is being tethered?
We need to change a few settings on our computers. You will want to change your defaultTTL to 65 (decimal) on all your PCs.
For details on that follow this youtube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZOqm98kzIU
for windows 10 its a little bit different. Use this command in a terminal.
netsh int ipv4 set glob defaultcurhoplimit=65
This should prevent Tmobile from noticing and counting your hotspot data.
If i missed anything, please feel free to message me along with any other questions.
Cheers!

Hi,
What are your setup parameters for Wi-Fi Tether?
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Encryption wpa2-psk
wifi channel 1
interface wlan0
method 4 -native tether
auto disconnect wifi when start tethering (check)
wifi scanning autodisabler (check)
i also root disabled all tmobile apps especially com.tmobile.pr.adapt
Good Luck!

When was the last time you've checked your usage? I'm using a vpn (in addition to build.prop and settings.db "hacks") as well, so not sure how they see it now. I'll change my TTL on the pc as next precaution. Vpn used to be the bullet proof method, but they're getting sneakier.

RussianBear said:
When was the last time you've checked your usage? I'm using a vpn (in addition to build.prop and settings.db "hacks") as well, so not sure how they see it now. I'll change my TTL on the pc as next precaution. Vpn used to be the bullet proof method, but they're getting sneakier.
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My apologies to everyone, i guess my post was a little premature. I just got the text message today saying i've used 80% of my mobile hotspot. RussianBear, i am interested in your settings.db hack. What is the purpose of that hack, and also what vpn do you use?
The TTL was a game changer for me with my S5. The problem i am running into with the LG V10 is that in the wifi tether router app, the hostapd method would not work anymore. I "enable wifi router" and i can't see my hotspot.
Russianbear, how far along have you gotten with this. Maybe we can help each other. Can you see your hotspot via wifi tether router? What are your wifi tether router settings? The only way i was able to activate it was with the Native method, however i believe the native hotspot embedded with the phone sends packets to tmobile.
I was wondering also if a custom rom can help me in this situation. It seems as though the native hotspot does not allow third party apps like "wifi tether router" to activate the hotspot. Can anyone recommend a good stable custom rom that can help me accomplish this?
Cheers!

jontav said:
My apologies to everyone, i guess my post was a little premature. I just got the text message today saying i've used 80% of my mobile hotspot. RussianBear, i am interested in your settings.db hack. What is the purpose of that hack, and also what vpn do you use?
The TTL was a game changer for me with my S5. The problem i am running into with the LG V10 is that in the wifi tether router app, the hostapd method would not work anymore. I "enable wifi router" and i can't see my hotspot.
Russianbear, how far along have you gotten with this. Maybe we can help each other. Can you see your hotspot via wifi tether router? What are your wifi tether router settings? The only way i was able to activate it was with the Native method, however i believe the native hotspot embedded with the phone sends packets to tmobile.
I was wondering also if a custom rom can help me in this situation. It seems as though the native hotspot does not allow third party apps like "wifi tether router" to activate the hotspot. Can anyone recommend a good stable custom rom that can help me accomplish this?
Cheers!
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I'm using private internet access vpn. Not currently using any play store apps, just my native usb/wi-fi tether, but it looks like they upped their game this month, as I've already ran out of hotspot data lol
The settings db "hack" was forcing zero flag inside a settings database. In MM it was moved to this location:
/data/system/users/userid/settings_[system|global|secure].xml"
On V10 it's under global.xml - search for tether_dun and make sure that's 0.
You can also try using adb or terminal emulator and execute commands found here:
https://pmf.silvrback.com/fixing-tethering-on-android-kitkat

I'm using the same settings but my usage keeps going up
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I have to find a way to get wifi tether router working on this phone. Wifi tether plus DefaultTTL will fix this. If anybody tries wifi tether and gets it to work with LG V10 please let me know. Maybe its my phone. I did use the .tot file in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-v10/general/root-android-6-0-h901-t3382819
I'm thinking maybe that might have corrupted something and is not letting me activate my hotspot via wifi tether router.

Looks like adjusting ttl has worked for now.

RussianBear said:
Looks like adjusting ttl has worked for now.
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Can you please explain where and how you did this?

I'll try this, but dont think it will work. I've used Wifi Tether Router alot before, but that was before Tmo started cracking down on heavy tether users not too long ago. Now if I try to use it, they always notice quickly. I also did the no provisioning trick but same results. I created a new APN with a guide I found, same thing. I didnt change any values on my other devices' end. I've heard it helps if you use a different DNS server but dont know for sure. It may also help if you use a different user agent.
I do believe the days of unlimited tethering with Tmo are over, I've tried lots of tricks but didnt get far.

luckydog98 said:
Can you please explain where and how you did this?
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use the video from the op above.
AnonVendetta said:
I'll try this, but dont think it will work. I've used Wifi Tether Router alot before, but that was before Tmo started cracking down on heavy tether users not too long ago. Now if I try to use it, they always notice quickly. I also did the no provisioning trick but same results. I created a new APN with a guide I found, same thing. I didnt change any values on my other devices' end. I've heard it helps if you use a different DNS server but dont know for sure. It may also help if you use a different user agent.
I do believe the days of unlimited tethering with Tmo are over, I've tried lots of tricks but didnt get far.
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Invest into a good vpn service.

@RussianBear: I actually use a VPN on my phone most of the time. However, by default, Android wont direct tethering to a VPN. I found a guide awhile back that shows how to use terminal commands to forcibly route through a VPN, it worked for quite awhile, but Tmo caught on eventually. I made sure the VPN and my script were already running before activating tethering. A VPN is supposed to be encrypted, so how they detected ne is beyond me. I guess they saw the sheer amount of data I was using and suspected tethering (over 500GB in one month, at the highest point).

AnonVendetta said:
@RussianBear: I actually use a VPN on my phone most of the time. However, by default, Android wont direct tethering to a VPN. I found a guide awhile back that shows how to use terminal commands to forcibly route through a VPN, it worked for quite awhile, but Tmo caught on eventually. I made sure the VPN and my script were already running before activating tethering. A VPN is supposed to be encrypted, so how they detected ne is beyond me. I guess they saw the sheer amount of data I was using and suspected tethering (over 500GB in one month, at the highest point).
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Can you not enable vpn on the clients instead? I have my asus router set up with my vpn settings, so anything connecting to it automatically gets passed thru the vpn ip instead. Lower your ttl on desktop/laptop, do the build.prop entry, set ipv to 4 in settings, and set tether dun to 0 in settings.xml (I made a script for that). You should be to go with your vpn then.

Honestly I see almost no point in having unlimited tethering since your data is slowed down around 26gbs. I'm fine with the 7gb I have rn. If I were to make use of unlimited tethering, I'd need truly unlimited since I do very heavy usage on any of my computer's. Usually 700-900 GB a month(and that's only download. Upload is around 200gb a month). Used to have an at&t business hotspot that I paid $125/month and used 300 or so GB a month for three months with no slow downs on it.

xBØYxTØYx said:
Honestly I see almost no point in having unlimited tethering since your data is slowed down around 26gbs. I'm fine with the 7gb I have rn. If I were to make use of unlimited tethering, I'd need truly unlimited since I do very heavy usage on any of my computer's. Usually 700-900 GB a month(and that's only download. Upload is around 200gb a month). Used to have an at&t business hotspot that I paid $125/month and used 300 or so GB a month for three months with no slow downs on it.
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Gotta pay to play. They "prioritize" your after 26, so it's not like it'll be slow 24/7. Annoying, sure. However, I haven't had home internet going on two years now. Worth it to me, based on my usage. With this tmo one stuff, they offer unlimited tethering, but of course, your primary usage has to be from your phone...

The victory was only half-way declared... They somehow know when device(s) that connect to my router are tethered. Router is setup with an openvpn configuration and connects to the vpn server automatically. All IPs check out, as well as ttl values, but they're still able to tell. One thing that was strange was if I did not enable vpn thru the router, but instead thru the client, the speeds remained constant - undetected. This is fine and dandy, but I'd lose my chromecast functionality this way... If things get rough and I can't finger this one out, I might hop onto to their unlimited everything for $95/month instead of the simple choice one I got now.

RussianBear said:
use the video from the op above..
Invest into a good vpn service.
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If you have good home internet with VPN supported router, you can run VPN through your home

mingkee said:
If you have good home internet with VPN supported router, you can run VPN through your home
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Yes, but somehow they can tell...even with a vpn setup thru a router.

RussianBear said:
Yes, but somehow they can tell...even with a vpn setup thru a router.
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They can tell tho the t mobile app the one the shows your data you have to delete it and delete this the one that has the red # by it, that how they track you and can see everything on your phone and know it you have root or not and anything you do on your phone .