[Q] Windows 8 - a possibility? - Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I was just curious if anyone has thought about trying to boot Windows 8 on the Xoom....or if anyone is going to be interested in it.
I nabbed the developer preview last week and loved it, and would love to add even more functionality to my favorite tablet.

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My join date is before yours, man. I know how to use search and did. Threads I found were unrelated to Xoom.
@gqstatus0685: I was aware it's closed source, but I guess the question is if the drivers will support the hardware (which is the usual problem). Since Win 8 is designed with tablets in mind, and specifically ARM processors, IMO there's a good chance it will come with drivers that will/could run on the Xoom. Was more just curious as to how much work it would take to hack it on there.

Agreed OP. Although it IS closed source, if the x86 version can run on the variety of devices it's been running on, I have no doubt on my mind we'll be dual booting the ARM version off of an SD Card/USB Drive. Or possibly even replacing Android, a touch optimized version of Windows 7 on my Xoom? I'm very enthusiastic. Netflix, Office products, and EVERYTHING else I do on my computer, no workarounds, nada. This would be ideal.
At this point I'm wondering what Android does that 8 wouldn't be able to do.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262002
Here is one.
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VPAD 10

I just won one of these things and it will be here tomorrow. I saw it only has 1.6 for android on it. Is there anyway to move it to honeycomb or at least anything newer then 1.6? I just want to know before I open it cause if not I will just take it to the store and get credit for it for a diffrent one.
First, this isn't the place to be asking this.
Second, the reason that the view pad can dual boot is because it has an x86 processor. I believe there may be x86 ports to froyo, gingerbread, etc but that's not what that tablet is about. The viewpad is a windows tablet that also dual boots android.
djyellowperil said:
First, this isn't the place to be asking this.
Second, the reason that the view pad can dual boot is because it has an x86 processor. I believe there may be x86 ports to froyo, gingerbread, etc but that's not what that tablet is about. The viewpad is a windows tablet that also dual boots android.
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So android on this tablet was more of an after thought then? Ugh, windows on a tablet just sounds....weird I guess. I never thought of it as being friendly with it. But I will look into it more, sorry about posting here I saw another one here about the v10 and thought it was okay.
One questions, so your saying all the newer androids builds are x64?
no this forum is for the tegra 2 Viewsonic G-Tablet the arm based processor architechture.
Can I lock or just delete this then? I don't want to bug you mates in the wrong place.
since this was moved, can anyone help or point me?
We have 2 of them. They are decent devices for what they are. Nothing to write home about. They come with 1.6 but if you check out the x86 google group, there is a 2.2.1 for it. Looking for 2.3.x or 3.x myself. If not, I may have to make it myself.
I like it.
seraph1024 said:
We have 2 of them. They are decent devices for what they are. Nothing to write home about. They come with 1.6 but if you check out the x86 google group, there is a 2.2.1 for it. Looking for 2.3.x or 3.x myself. If not, I may have to make it myself.
I like it.
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Could you link me to this group? I'll check google like you said. Glad someone else bought one. If you do work on honey comb for it let me know if you need donations to get it going.
Found it, now looking into it more.
Froyo now available!
Finally Viewsonic have added Froyo build.
Guide and files available here:
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/vpad10.htm
(click downloads)
Not installed yet, just wanted to let you know.
Thanks mate but already sold it for a transformer from asus
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How to install win7 and android on vpad
I have upgraded my VPAD to 64gb and having a problem installing to os. When i Install win7 i boot up but when installing android things fall apart. Can some one give me a setp by step installation guide. I thisk there is a problem with the way the drive is set up.
Thanks
Remove Android??
Hi,
My android is completly out of control, so i would like to remove it from my vpad10.
Anny sugestions how to doe this propperly?
I prefer it to run on windows only
use ubuntu and gparted the disk. copy windows from cd to usb remember make usb drive bootable. follow the step.that all.

[Q] Dual booting Ubuntu 11.04 and Android 3.0?

The dual-form nature of this item would fit a dual-boot scenario perfectly. Boot into Android when used as a tablet, boot into Ubuntu when docked. Just curious as to the possibility of this.
As far as I know, Ubuntu supports ARM architecture, so the Tegra 2 chip should work well with it. Ubuntu 11.04 was just released with the integrated Unity interface, which looks wonderful with the touchscreen: http://unity.ubuntu.com/projects/utouch/
The Unity 2D interface should fly on the Tegra 2, even if the Unity 3D mode lags.
Now I know that on the Xoom, we were able to run Ubuntu on a VNC server and connect to it locally, but that is obviously not an ideal solution, due to VNC's weakness, and the general inefficiency of it.
Are there any devs working on something like this so far? I am sure there would be a very sizable audience for something like this. I'd be happy to do any necessary testing, and I'm sure more will as well. I also wouldn't mind taking this as an opportunity to get involved with the dev community (I have a thorough background in CS, just no experience with this specifically), I'd be happy if anyone were to take me under their wing. =)
You're not the only one hoping for this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053641
I was just thinking about this yesterday. Dual booting Ubuntu and Android would make this the perfect device for me.
i would also love the ability to run linux on mine
I'm tempted to wait until this is guaranteed to happen before buying this thing. I need a new portable device for developing on the go, and I also want and need a Honeycomb device for testing apps and casual content consumption.
At the same time though, if anyone knows of a site or thread dedicated to making this dual-boot happen (similar to the dedicated Toshiba AC100 page here http://tosh-ac100.wetpaint.com/page/Ubuntu ), I wouldn't mind learning all about it and potentially help if I can, so please share.
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There are some devs who definitely pulled this off on the Atrix and I had Ubuntu on my phone so I'm sure we can get it on the transformer. I'll try to find them and see if similar methods can be used.
It'll take years but I don't see why it wouldn't work. If I can do this on my old ass wm6.5 phone then it's possible on the TF!
Maybe it wont take years, but more of these tablets have to hit the market. Still so many people waiting on their preorders, me included.
I think that there might be quite the interest in making this happen. I remember reading somewhere that Ubuntu allready runs on the Tegra2, so why should it be far into the future before we see it running on the Transformer?
Sorry for any typos. I have fat fingers, a 4" screen, a small child and a dictionary gone wild...
here's to hoping
So far i'm quite impressed with this little tablet. It crunches bytes as fast as i can throw them, and customizing it was easy enough. Although with the dock station and Tegra 2 it does feel more like a netbook than a tablet.
Android 3.0 IMO is the best compromise between a desktop and mobile phone OS. Although it's expandability is not quite what i would wish it to be. Possibly once more developers gear their programs for the higher resolutions and more powerful CPUs this will change. For now dual booting Ubuntu and Android would be perfect.
I'm on board with any project coming about to make this happen, and would offer up my hardware and feedback for beta testing. Hope to see a dedication in this direction soon!
Has anyone tried the method in the xoom development forums?
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Has anyone tried the method in the xoom development forums?
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I haven't seen the post, but I'm assuming you mean VNC?
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I haven't seen the post, but I'm assuming you mean VNC?
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Yeah, it's VNC. That's not that hard, we're talking about straight booting INTO Ubuntu.
i have this image from my desire, which boots linux xlde (or something) i cant get it to connect to that image. Pockecloud just get Server disconnected.... maybe another image.. actually that was loading it from removable MicroSD, im now going to try copying to the internal memory "SDCARD" as that would be what the script would have orignally been setup for. I will post results as soon as this has finished pasting the files...
EDIT: still cant get this to work, seems like terminal is ending too quickly which i think means the loopback memory doesnt work, i think thats how it works anyway.
No lock with WYSE pocket cloud or android vnc, i think we need another build for honeycomb, well not so much the OS but the Tegra chip instead.
ubuntuforums.org
There is a thread over at ubuntuforums.org regarding this matter, though they have a different take on it.
One of the posts state:
Re: Asus Eee Pad Transformer
I plan to get one (not available in my region yet, plus I hear there'll be a 3G version next quarter) and install Ubuntu on it, albeit with KDE/Gnome instead of Unity.
There's not technical reason it can't run Ubuntu, it's just a matter of getting the boot loader working. The instructions seem simple enough, although dual booting with Android might be a little more challenging.
If anyone does get one and install Ubuntu on it, please let us know how it goes.
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Maybe it's not all that farfetched getting Ubuntu to run on this device, or any other Tegra2 base tablet.
The original thread can be found at:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1741103&highlight=eee+pad+transformer&page=1
looks like dual booting may be fairly difficult; I wouldn't mind soloing ubuntu touch os on mine...
I think dual booting may be difficult, but I think chain booting (right terminology?) from Android first and then into Ubuntu would probably be possible.
I don't think many people understand how hard it will be to create a bootable version of Ubuntu. VNCing is easy for the most part.
Would it be possible to use the motorola xoom guide to get ubuntu running with vnc on the eee transformer?
Sorry for any typos. I have fat fingers, a 4" screen, a small child and a dictionary gone wild...
Is the VNC version that bad? Is it very slow or the picture is not full color? I'd like to use it maybe for Open Office (or something lighter) and some programming in text editor.
Looks like there has been significant progress on this. backtrack has been released for arm.. its a security-centric distro, but its built on an ubuntu base.
I'm downloading the img now.. dont know about dual boot though. guess someone needs to port grub over first =)
I cant post links....but a search for 'backtrack5 xoom' should get you there.

Android on Bookeen-Cybook Odyssey (eBook Reader)?

Hello everyone, I know this is a long shot but: is anyone interested in porting Android to this excellent eBook Reader?
Device description is here: http://www.bookeen.com/en/cybook/odyssey
It is basically a Nook Touch Simple/Sony PRS T1 like device that features a very fast e-Ink display (amazingly fast for an e-Ink) and should support some tablet like use (browsing the web, reading a RSS feed) quite well. You can see here and here what HSIS (High Speed Ink System) can do.
Stock version is using a Linux 2.6.31 based OS (doesn't specify what flavor)
From the little I know the main problems with porting a Android whould be:
- possible locked bootloader on the Cybook Odyssey -> no way to know without the device
- supported chipset -> an ARM A8 based chipset is listed
- display drivers -> maybe those from regular pearl e-Ink can be used?
- wi-fi drivers -> again, depends on the chipset
I'm out of my league (php, web stuff) here but I plan to buy the device next month if there's hope for it
Ideas?
Hi!
I would point out, before getting your hopes up on the porting, the fact that you asked just one day after the launch of the device, makes one think that you're thoughts are audaciously early. So unless some xda-developers are Bokeen insiders and, ahem, unbound by their job to work on this matter, either waiting or is the thing to do. Or, ahem, , learning how to port?
The chances I see for this port to happen are small (but than again still possible). Perhaps we could see if the linux running it might offer more flexibility and run apps directly (?). Porting would would have it's obvious advantages ... an Android with it's screen technology superior to any current eInk readers, except the Mirasol powered ones perhaps (those are limited to Korea for now) would we awesome.
csioucs said:
Hi!
I would point out, before getting your hopes up on the porting, the fact that you asked just one day after the launch of the device, makes one think that you're thoughts are audaciously early. So unless some xda-developers are Bokeen insiders and, ahem, unbound by their job to work on this matter, either waiting or is the thing to do. Or, ahem, , learning how to port?
The chances I see for this port to happen are small (but than again still possible). Perhaps we could see if the linux running it might offer more flexibility and run apps directly (?). Porting would would have it's obvious advantages ... an Android with it's screen technology superior to any current eInk readers, except the Mirasol powered ones perhaps (those are limited to Korea for now) would we awesome.
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Is there any news on debugging and or development possibilities on that platform? I have seen the gpl'ed linux source released at bookeen's site.
I have yet not found any pictures of a disassembled device and do not know if customized firmware updates are possible.
Would very much appreciate any news on that topic!
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Is there any news on debugging and or development possibilities on that platform? I have seen the gpl'ed linux source released at bookeen's site.
I have yet not found any pictures of a disassembled device and do not know if customized firmware updates are possible.
Would very much appreciate any news on that topic!
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I would also be interested in customized firmware for cybook odyssey. thanks
Any news on this anybody?
Anyone still watching this? I'd like to try to do it, but it's over my head, skill wise...
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Anyone still watching this? I'd like to try to do it, but it's over my head, skill wise...
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I know that internally some version of android ran on the device, but it's really not worth to do this. Android is absolutely not suited for such device and screen.
To install personalised linux/software, first crack the update format, then the device will be open to you...

WINDOWS 8 Prelease!!!!

Hey devs, lets start cranking this baby out. Lets do some research, and find out what he need to get W8 on the G Tablet
Please details, or possible obstacles you find, or feel
Sorry Charlie
DJTJ said:
Hey devs, lets start cranking this baby out. Lets do some research, and find out what he need to get W8 on the G Tablet
Please details, or possible obstacles you find, or feel
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Well, this has been answered before, but just to make you happy...the closest you will ever get to seeing Win 8 on a gTab is if you play a YouTube video of it.
Won't be possible for numerous reasons:
1. Doesn't meet the hardware specs (too little ram, too little storage, missing various pieces of hardware, screen res way too low, etc)
2. Unlike Android (which is open source), Windows is not...MS would be all over anyone butt if they tried to modify it for another device
3. MS has already stated Win8 (RT) will only come pre-installed on OEM devices meaning the OEM's build will be specific to their hardware
4. We can't even get drivers for our current hardware on Android...how do expect to get Windows ones for it??????
5. I could go one, but I hope you get the point
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the closest you will ever get to seeing Win 8 on a gTab is if you play a YouTube video of it.
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Precisely.
How many devices (of any type) can you name which run any form of Windows (or MS-DOS, for that matter) without MS's blessing? (Let's skip pirated copies here.)
rajeevvp said:
Precisely.
How many devices (of any type) can you name which run any form of Windows (or MS-DOS, for that matter) without MS's blessing? (Let's skip pirated copies here.)
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My thoughts exactly....... Why OH Why would you want Microsoft software on a Android Tablet. UI for Win8 are not that great and perfomance wouldn't be either. Really Metro on Android it's bad enough they have a launcher for it let alone someone wanting a OS. I would rather try putting IOs on this thing then somthing from Microsoft. Just saying.
Even if the UI is fantastic and the performance is great, the idea is a non-starter. Here's why:
Let's say Hannspree makes a deal with MS tomorrow and releases Win 8 (completely unlocked of course!) on their Hannspad next month. Now, since the Hannspad and the gTab are very close tablets, you could conceivably just pull the official files from that tablet and use it on the gTab with minor modifications. And let's also assume that you've got Win 8 working perfectly on the gTab by going in with a hex editor and patching whatever binaries. And finally, when you boot it, Win 8 blows the socks off everything else.
Unfortunately, what you've done now is create a pirated distro of Win 8 -- a warez distribution -- and no reputable BBS (certainly not XDA!) will touch it. You'll have to post your wonderful creation on some 0-day warez upload site for people to use.
The technical problems are actually a tertiary concern here.
I have it on my U30GT Cube, well, not really on it, but with the "Splashtop" app I can use my main PC (Win8) on my tablet touch screen and its great.
So, while you may not be able to fully install Win8 on the Gtab, if your main PC has Win8 (I assume any other Windows OS too), I do not see any reason why Splashtop would not suffice or indeed enhance any tablet.

[Q] Has anyone tried this with their Note Pro?

I've found this on Youtube and it was used for another tablet. Apparently , it installs Windows 8 on an Android tablet and someone could back up the Android partition in case said person wanted to get back to Android.
http://changemysoftware.org/cms8edition.php
Has anyone tried this on their Note Pros yet?
I am not enthused about win 8 on any platform.
Bystorm said:
I've found this on Youtube and it was used for another tablet. Apparently , it installs Windows 8 on an Android tablet and someone could back up the Android partition in case said person wanted to get back to Android.
http://changemysoftware.org/cms8edition.php
Has anyone tried this on their Note Pros yet?
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... didn't even know it was around... well, maybe I'm being unneedfully suspicious, but there's lots about this ( I watched the video ) that doesn't quite work...
... how Windows 8 is running on whatever chipset is in his tablet escapes me. My gut instinct is to say it's in some sort of virtualized container, but ...
... I noticed at the end of the video there was virtually no demonstration of how it performed. did the touch screen work? Was it laggy?
... anytime I'm just clicking away and letting software from who knows where just fly on to my device, well, I need to have my head examined.
It would be super cool if this was legit and produced a functional way to swap between OS's; I'm just not buying it for now based on what the site and video is showing.
I have an android tablet to avoid windows tablets... Pretty much zero reason to use Windows short of office.
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Echo the opinions of others when I say I have absolutely no desire to ever own a windows tablet.
The website in question though just screams STAY AWAY to me. It's clean . . too clean . . there's no testimonials, no compatibility lists, and no support FAQs or forums of any kind to allow one to see a history of testing and interaction with users. For me, support is often a big deal and that should especially be true for a product such as this where you're potentially going to softbrick your device when you repartition it. While I'm sure there would be a way to get back to stock I'm not the least bit interested in finding out . .
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I have an android tablet to avoid windows tablets... Pretty much zero reason to use Windows short of office.
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I'm between Android and Mac/iOS myself. Wherever the art geared tech flows, I follow, but that's just me. I don't see the point of Windows tablets myself, but if factors changed, I'd jump only with the other options had nothing to offer me anymore.
Don't even need Office anymore. Just get Libreoffice, which got a heavy UI overhaul recently. I just found it as a curiosity. I still remember running a virtual machine of 2000 on the Note 10.1 , and it was slow as can be. I'm not sure how well virtual machines run on the Note Pro, but I doubt anything beyond XP would run well.
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... didn't even know it was around... well, maybe I'm being unneedfully suspicious, but there's lots about this ( I watched the video ) that doesn't quite work...
... how Windows 8 is running on whatever chipset is in his tablet escapes me. My gut instinct is to say it's in some sort of virtualized container, but ...
... I noticed at the end of the video there was virtually no demonstration of how it performed. did the touch screen work? Was it laggy?
... anytime I'm just clicking away and letting software from who knows where just fly on to my device, well, I need to have my head examined.
It would be super cool if this was legit and produced a functional way to swap between OS's; I'm just not buying it for now based on what the site and video is showing.
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I agree with all your points. I found the site and a lack of an actual forum to navigate to be unfortunate, because I'd like to experiment with the software. I might sacrifice my outdated Captivate to see how this works.
That website is completely fake. DO NOT USE.
We've discussed changemysoftware.org several times before on XDA. It's fake.

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