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I want to upgrade the stock 4 GB microsd in my unrooted htc desire to a 16 GB microsd card. My question is can I copy what is on the 4 GB microsd and transfer them to the new 16 GB microsd and just insert it in? would all programs work?
many thanks for your help.
Yet, the apps are on the phones memory and the info is on the SD card so you can just copy across.
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Yet, the apps are on the phones memory and the info is on the SD card so you can just copy across.
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Cheers for the helpful reply.
Are ebay unbranded 16GB microsd cards reliable? Do they work?
i would stay away.
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i would stay away.
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I agree - I had lots of problems with an unbranded 16GB card. Eventually ebay closed the seller down as there were so many complaints. I did get my money back via paypal. I finally bought a branded 32GB card - costly (EUR100!), but I love having so much space for my music / video.
Is there really a need for anything above class 4?
My HTC Desire came with a sandisc 4GB class 2. I want to get a larger card, but never had any reading issues with the class 2, and music and video played off it with ease.
I've seen the following item here, which is for a class 6.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-m...r-TS16GUSDHC6/dp/B001PLIG5Y/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t
Anyone got one of these?
I've just bought the 'ultra' version of Sandisk's 16GB microsd card and I am very impressed with it so far.
Personally, I always feel that it is best to stick with the tried and trusted brands, and sandisk products have always been excellent for me
I just bought a 16GB SanDisk class 2 from amazon and it writes on average at 5MB ish
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I thought the class number i.e. 2 meant the read and write speed 2Mbps. Therefore class 6 would be 6Mbps. If you have a class 2 and get 5Mbps then that is pretty impressive.
The Class of the SD card is simply the *minimum* sustained write speed on a card which is completely unfragmented. So, a completely blank Class 2 card should always be able to write large files out at least 2mb/s, but can easily be faster.
My 16gb Sandisk Class 2 reads at 20mb/s and writes at 7.5mb/s - well above the Class 6 minimums.
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Dave
my 32gb is a class 2 and i have zero issues with streaming video or music from the card, i expect when i root that apps will not be an issue either. plenty of read write speed.
the higher classes are for devices that require a higher bitrate for recording such as mini hd recorders and such.
Im running a SanDisk 16GB Class 6 and its like Lightning!
Will i need higher than class 2 microsd card to support HD recording on the DHD something like ultra high speed class 6 microsd card for better access speed?
Though im not sure if class 6 is supported on the DHD. if anyone can shed a light on this is greatly appriciated.
As they provide a Class2 card with the phone and advertise 720p video recording, the Class2 standard is apparently enough. This is just a guess, but I strongly think that DHD supports Class6.
Ok, just not too sure if class 6 is based on ver 2.0
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As they provide a Class2 card with the phone and advertise 720p video recording, the Class2 standard is apparently enough. This is just a guess, but I strongly think that DHD supports Class6.
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It's enough cause we are talking here of a phone that has plenty internal memory to buffer data when you are recording stuff in 720p!!! Class 6 or 10 are needed on digital cameras or digital video cameras cause they usually don't have such huge internal memory to buffer data while recording...
Basically we are talking DHD as almost a computer in these particularly case
something else to consider is transferring anything to your phone or back again to a pc or mac. A class 2 card will be much slower than a class 6 or even a class 10.
I just thought I would check what Class my N97s Micro SD card was and it is a class 6 8GB, so that should keep me going for a bit.
Its pretty rubbish that when people are pay £500 for a phone, that they ship it with pretty old technology micro SD card.
Class 4 16gb kingston microsdhc are pretty cheap
guys what do you all think about this one
Transcend 16 GB microSDHC Class 6 Flash Memory Card
Look it up in amazon
it looks pretty good
patriotaus said:
Class 4 16gb kingston microsdhc are pretty cheap
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i've placed an order for one of this for £23.00 through amazon. Doube the capacity and in theory speed than the sd cards the came with my DHD
please post what micro sd card you are using and how you are finding it on the DHD, just so we can see which works the best.
the reason i ask is because I am thinking about getting a bigger micro sd, but not sure what to go for!
thanks
I got a Toshiba 16GB Micro SDHC card from these guys for my DHD for £16.99 inc P&P, and it works great : http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/pro...d=106505&PHPSESSID=4foeg41alltvi1s6sifidtoip0
Its rated as a Class 4 card but I have actually obtained steady transfer rates of 6.5 MB/s and even at times up to 10 MB/s with it whilst copying across large files from my PC to the phone via USB.
I really should look a bit closer before posting!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829737
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Class 4 stands for transfers not slower than 4mb/s
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Im planning on buying a 16 gb microsd card but all i can find is cards class 2 is that enough for recording 720p and loading applications installed to the SD card ? keep in mind that i also plan un buying a optimus 2x which has 1080p recording
Which brand do you like better? sandisk? kigston? trascend?
I read that sandisk class 4 cards are REALLY good but they dont show up in their website or amazon :/ , it seems they only sell class 2 cards, and kingston offers cards class 10 and 4 , class 10 seems a little excessive
Class 4 but really class 6 is what u need class 2 will die
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yeah minimum a class 4
class 2 is just a pain, it will make you want to throw the phone away, and explode it into a million tiny bits
class 6 is the normal speed for a fluid experience
Im using a Sandisk 32GB class 2 card, it writes at 5~7Mb/s depending if its a large file or several smaller ones and read as higher than 15Mb/s
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Class 4 but really class 6 is what u need class 2 will die
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class 2 will die? u mean its on its way out?
Ive been reading good comments about the sandisk cards, but they only sell class 2 cards :/ , what brands are u guys using?
If you are getting a 16gb card, or less sandisk, kingston or toshiba, class 2 or class 4 offers similar read/write speed, although the toshiba and kingston is a little faster, the sandisk is much stable.
Read is about 11-14mb
write is about 8mb
I had a toshiba 16gb class 2 in my i9000, it plays 720p videos without any problems, now i am using a lexar 32gb class 10, results aren't any different.
Hope this helps.
lexar 32gb class 10? jezus christ you must have payen an arm and a leg for that ****.
kms108 said:
If you are getting a 16gb card, or less sandisk, kingston or toshiba, class 2 or class 4 offers similar read/write speed, although the toshiba and kingston is a little faster, the sandisk is much stable.
Read is about 11-14mb
write is about 8mb
I had a toshiba 16gb class 2 in my i9000, it plays 720p videos without any problems, now i am using a lexar 32gb class 10, results aren't any different.
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so basically you're saying i can buy any card i like and itll be fine?
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lexar 32gb class 10? jezus christ you must have payen an arm and a leg for that ****.
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Approximate usd 85.
The class designation of SD Cards ONLY represents the sustained WRITE speed to the card in MB/s. So, class 2 means it can be written to at 2MB/s, while class 10 means it can be written to at 10MB/s.
The designation has no reference whatsoever to the read speed of the card. So, basically every response stating otherwise in this thread is wrong. You should be able to get suitable sustained read speeds out of any class 2 or higher SD Card for the purposes you will be using it for. It will just take you longer to transfer the data to it in the first place. As for video recording from your phone, class should should be plenty as I'm pretty sure 720P comes in under 2MB/s.
Wow, yea. Just that i seen some online shops which class 2 32gb cost 100$
But on amazon the lexar class10 32gb is really cheap...
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-MicroSD...610M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296152464&sr=8-1
Anyway, i got a 16gb class2 card (a-data) and i can play 720p and record just fine...
Electroz is right. Its only about transferring and stuff.
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so basically you're saying i can buy any card i like and itll be fine?
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The speed of the card used in the phone does not make much of a difference, its onlt when you transfer data to and from Pc, but its always best to get the fastest available, if the budget is the main problem, consider getting a kingston or toshiba, but make sure you get one that is made in japan, as the taiwan version is a litttle slower, japan version are becoming harder to get now, since the japan factor has transferred their production to the taiwan site.
The classes stated on each card is only the minimum it will reach.
Class 2 at least 2 mb read/write
class 4 at least 4 mb read/write. etc.
So it can be anything above the actual figures.
For more info on microsd, see my link in the sig, although its a little out dated.
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Wow, yea. Just that i seen some online shops which class 2 32gb cost 100$
But on amazon the lexar class10 32gb is really cheap...
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-MicroSD...610M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296152464&sr=8-1
Anyway, i got a 16gb class2 card (a-data) and i can play 720p and record just fine...
Electroz is right. Its only about transferring and stuff.
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The actual retail price for the lexar 32gb class 10 is 149 usd.
No problems with 32GB Class 2 here, it can record and decode 720p just fine, and there is nothing else as intensive as those tasks that you'll be doing with this handset (may not be enough to support 1080p in future handsets, but that remains to be seen).
Don't buy into this rubbish about needing Class 4 or 6 cards, unless you regularly load very large numbers of small files to your card, in which case you may want the higher write speeds.
when you run apps and/or games off the SD (App2SD) the slower the card the more time it takes to have a fluid experience, specially heavy stuff from gamesoft, or simply opening the application manager and waiting for the icons to load
repeat the same tasks with a slower card vs a faster card and you'll see the difference
of course you'll not really see much of a difference, unless you card is more than 50% full, and have over 300+ apps installed
You can buy a Kingmax 16GB Class 6 at Amazon for £43. I didn't had any problem to find it. Class 6 is much better. See you - Frank
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You can buy a Kingmax 16GB Class 6 at Amazon for £43. I didn't had any problem to find it. Class 6 is much better. See you - Frank
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for that price I can get 2 class 10 Kingmax 16gb.
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You can buy a Kingmax 16GB Class 6 at Amazon for £43. I didn't had any problem to find it. Class 6 is much better. See you - Frank
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amazon is always over priced, i rather buy them locally at the computer stores
Adata microSDHC 16GB, class 6 $35
Wintec microSDHC 16GB, Class 10 $36.49
Patriot microSDHC 16GB, class 4 $40
Kingston microSDHC 16GB, class 10 $102
i can also get authentic
Kingston 32GB microSDHC Class 4 Flash Card W/ Full Size SDHC Secure Digital Adapter $116.15
so at £43 pounds i easily get 2x Adata 16 GB class 6
which i already have many (each of my 5 phones has one, plus another one on the video camera CountourHD 1080p), and they work really good
LOL i always run out of battery before i run out of space in my video camera
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when you run apps and/or games off the SD (App2SD) the slower the card the more time it takes to have a fluid experience, specially heavy stuff from gamesoft, or simply opening the application manager and waiting for the icons to load repeat the same tasks with a slower card vs a faster card and you'll see the difference
of course you'll not really see much of a difference, unless you card is more than 50% full, and have over 300+ apps installed
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If your getting cards from a non generic name brand, the read speeds should be around 15-25Mb/s , My class 6 card actually had a slower read speed of 15Mb/s compared to my Class2 ( 28Mb/s )
At the end of the day the difference between loading something was barely noticeable even skipping to different portions of a 3.7GB movie, Im guessing the phone it self is the bottleneck and not the card.
1% or 99% full should have ZERO effect on the read/write speed this is not some mechanical drive nor having 1 or all the apps in the market.
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Again the class rating is only a rate on what is the minimum write speed the card can handle, sandisk rates their 32GB at class 2 when it writes at 6-7Mb/s ( making it class 6 ) on the phone and about 10Mb/s using a card reader ( making it class 10 )
AllGamer said:
amazon is always over priced, i rather buy them locally at the computer stores
Adata microSDHC 16GB, class 6 $35
Wintec microSDHC 16GB, Class 10 $36.49
Patriot microSDHC 16GB, class 4 $40
Kingston microSDHC 16GB, class 10 $102
i can also get authentic
Kingston 32GB microSDHC Class 4 Flash Card W/ Full Size SDHC Secure Digital Adapter $116.15
so at £43 pounds i easily get 2x Adata 16 GB class 6
which i already have many (each of my 5 phones has one, plus another one on the video camera CountourHD 1080p), and they work really good
LOL i always run out of battery before i run out of space in my video camera
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yeh, buying from a local store is cheaper, from the same price of a kingston 16gb class 10, you can get a 32gb class 4, but the fastest microsd on the market is the kingston 32gb class 10, but stock is very limited due to high prices, and you probable need to place an order and pay in advanced, i'm still searching for one, since the last time i heard about it about 9 months ago.
adata are the cheapest cards now, but the speed are rather slow, compared when they only released the 8gb about a year ago.
I have the stock 8G card in my Inspire, but want a 16G card so I can move apps (and other data) over. Is there any real difference from one 'class' of card to the other? what would you guys recommend?
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I have the stock 8G card in my Inspire, but want a 16G card so I can move apps (and other data) over. Is there any real difference from one 'class' of card to the other? what would you guys recommend?
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Get the san disk 16gb class 10. It will be really fast with transfers.
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Get the san disk 16gb class 10. It will be really fast with transfers.
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I read that some cards were more accurate with their transfer claims than others. Can't remember the brand of card but one was recommended as being closer to the spec than the others. Also remember reading something somewhere that suggested a Class 10 card wasn't desirable and not necessarily faster because of how it worked, and that a Class 6 would do better for read/write and battery life. Your thoughts?
not really sure if I would spend the extra cash on a class 10 16b over a slower card for use in a phone. class 10 are superior for video, especially hd, like with a digital camera.
now, if the price is not much more I would go for class 10 but that is because I have found that once you replace your device, you may use your old card in a new device that now needs a faster card.
from sd association:
Class 2 : H.264 video recording, MPEG-4, MPEG-2 video recording
Class 4: MEPG-2 (HDTV) video recording, DSC consecutive shooting
Class 6: Mega-pixel DSC consecutive shooting, professional video camera
Class 10: Full HD video recording, HD still consecutive shooting
I do not agree with all of those uses but class 6 should be fine for your phone, even class 4 may be. plenty of info on the web if you want to check it out more. Again, if price is not an issue or the price difference is minimal go for a faster card. also, do not buy from ebay as there are a ton of fake cards on the site.
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this was a good deal. just expired, but a similar one may surface :0
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=1019384&t=2794331
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I do not agree with all of those uses but class 6 should be fine for your phone, even class 4 may be. plenty of info on the web if you want to check it out more.
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The problem with these ratings is that they're intended for use in recording devices, and don't discuss suitability for use in a device such as a PDA where you'll be running programs off of the card.
The information I've seen on the 'net is sketchy, which is why I'm asking here.
Two things to answer:
1) What class is suitable for running programs from the card?
2) What brand/model of card comes closest to advertised rating?
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The problem with these ratings is that they're intended for use in recording devices, and don't discuss suitability for use in a device such as a PDA where you'll be running programs off of the card.
The information I've seen on the 'net is sketchy, which is why I'm asking here.
Two things to answer:
1) What class is suitable for running programs from the card?
2) What brand/model of card comes closest to advertised rating?
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It really depends on a number of things, how much information is being used at one time for a certain app, since all apps are different. So you can't really say, but if you want to make sure then go with a class 10. A class 6 should be fine for most of the apps on android though.
As for which brand of card comes closest to advertised. Each Sd card is different just like every processor is different. You can get a Kingston 8gig class 4 that only transfers at 3mb/s or one that transfers at 4.2 mb/s. Generally a good standard to go by is (cheap/fast/reliable) you can only pick two.
The only way you are going to know the actual speed of the card is to bench test it. For my money though I would probably go with kingston or pny.
The stock card is a Sandisk class 4 and based on that I would say that a class 4 would be fine, but a higher class shouldn't hurt.
capman231
My stock card is a samsung class 2..... And it is forever unexpectedly unmounting.......
Just ordered a Kingston 16gig class 4 for $30 shipped on amazon.
i just bought a 2GB PNY from BestBuy for $7. Couldn't be happier!
It really depends on what you plan on doing with the card/phone. If you are just going to use it for apps and smaller data files the class 4 or 6 will be fine. For me I use the phone for work and media. I stream music via bluetooth in my car and wired to my boat while also storing larger pdfs for work, like my companies catalog. Not to mention if I ever want to take any 720p vids.
I have a 16gb class 6 that has outlived its usefulness as Android stores more data on it than my previous windows phone, so I'm deleting more & more music to make room. I just purchased a Wintec 32gb class 10. I will test the speed with the card in the phone mounted to my computer via usb and if the speeds aren't there I have no problem putting it in a card reader to transfer what I need. I can easily throw 18gb of 192bit mp3s on it, more if I keep some of the songs as flac. I feel the time saved transferring justifies the $76 price.
If you go with a larger card just remember to unmount it before disconnecting and you'll save yourself a lot of headaches.
I want a 16 gb card, but which model is the fastest ? i know a class 4 can outperform a class 6 card and so on , a class 4 pny card? a class 4 kingston? or a class 6 trascend?
You have it backwards a class six is supposed to out perform a class four and a class ten is supposed to out perform a class six.
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You have it backwards a class six is supposed to out perform a class four and a class ten is supposed to out perform a class six.
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apparently the brands lie when they say what type of cards they're selling, think of it like a 5 mp camera outperforming an 8 mp camera i CAN happen
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apparently the brands lie when they say what type of cards they're selling, think of it like a 5 mp camera outperforming an 8 mp camera i CAN happen
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I'm not saying it can't, I have a 8 mega pixel sony cybershot that has a carl ziess lens and its pictures are way clearer then my 14 mega pixel cannon point and shoot, but like I said before you have to bench test it before you know its true potential. One kingston 16gig class 10 is not going to preform the same as another kingston 16gig class 10. It is possible to have a class 6 out perform a class 10, but in general the higher the class the faster the transfer rates.
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I'm not saying it can't, I have a 8 mega pixel sony cybershot that has a carl ziess lens and its pictures are way clearer then my 14 mega pixel cannon point and shoot, but like I said before you have to bench test it before you know its true potential. One kingston 16gig class 10 is not going to preform the same as another kingston 16gig class 10. It is possible to have a class 6 out perform a class 10, but in general the higher the class the faster the transfer rates.
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should i get the trascend class 6 then? the thing is i dont anything about that brand, are they any good?
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should i get the trascend class 6 then? the thing is i dont anything about that brand, are they any good?
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Personally I am not sure I tend to stick with pny and kingston. What I would recommend is looking on amazon or another place that has reviews usually a good reviewer will post a bench test with transfer rates.
I have been using this Adata 16gb cl6 for over a year and a half. The only problems I've had with it are occasional corrupting, but that is completely attributable to my lack of unmounting the card before disconnect. I haven't had a single issue since I started unmounting.
I would also recommend their cl10 card which can be found here.
I wish Adata made a 32gb version. I will report my results on the Wintec once I receive it.
I used a class 4 16gb SanDisk for a long time and it always was fine. I am a sucker for room though, and bought a Lexar 32GB Class 10 and I really couldnt be happier.
I just researched this the other day and can't find the link for the life of me..
Basically from what I read the class 2 and class 4 cards have a faster read than the class 6 and 10's. It has to do with some initializing the 6 and 10's do which is an extra step compared to the 2 and 4's.
For a digital camera the class 6's and 10's are better but for phones a class 4 is ideal. If I can find that darn link i'll post it.
I have an 8gb class 6 transend in my N1 atm and when I get my Inspire in tomorrow i'm going to test the class 4 against the class 6 to see which one has a higher read speed.
I am looking at either a Lexar or Samsung both class 10, both around £37.
any advise as to which one is best based on anyone using.
The other question is do you need to format before use?
At the moment I have a 16gb but it is 98% full. Never chenged a card before was planning to copy the old card into a folder on laptop and then back onto the new card.
Any advise welcome,,,,,,,,
Go with transcend. If they have 32gb class 10.
They only do a 16gb class 10. I looked for Transcend first as I prefer this brand.....
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They only do a 16gb class 10. I looked for Transcend first as I prefer this brand.....
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I like transcend more than anything else.
I never had luck with transcend, i have a sandisk 32 gig which works great,
i had a kingston 32 class 10 within a few weeks it just burnt out on me it stop reading and wouldnt want to format or anything
I'm also looking for a 32gb micro sdhc for my HTC Vogue. I currently have a Sandisk 16gb that is nearly full. Earlier today I stumbled onto this thread from here at XDA...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150369
I found it quite helpful. I hope you do too.
I was surprised that class 10 cards weren't the best choice for the things I use my Vogue for.
Here is a passage that surprised me...
"Class 2 and 4 cards have better random access speed and random read/write than class 6 or 10 cards in general. To get higher sequential write speeds, manufacturers sacrifice the random access speeds.".
I would agree with Random read/write access might be better in Class 4 cards than Class 10...
But arent we forgetting that most of the applications are read more than Written when u open it.. I think a faster read speed with lower write speed would still be better than having lower read/write all together...Not unless you are downloading a torrent in background and running HD game with it... infact in that situation.. both cards will fail badly..
I prefer Sandisk.
A class 4 should generally give proper performance... 10 seems a bit overkill imho.
I've used the 8GB class 4 memory card that came with the Sensation for a while, and after switching to a 32GB class 10 Lexar I must say - it DOES make a difference. It's a totally different experience.
Been using SAMSUNG ESSENTIAL 32GB MicroSD for more than 2 months without issues. It has helped me to parallely download videos from tubemate in high speeds. Good writing and reading speeds. No slowdowns/jatter in 1080P recording which iam always using to cap my child.
Just bought a 32GB Class 10 Samsung card from play.com for £34.99. Working great so far!
I got the 16GB SD card for two reasons
1. The 16GB has a faster write speed.
2. I didn't have $90 to spend on the 32GB.
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-MPAGA/US?from_mobile=true
Oh also I did not pat $55 for the 16GB
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005TUQUZA/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?redirect=true
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How fast is it?
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Copied a film over to it via usb last night and was getting 11.6 mb/s. Haven't tested with the card in a reader but would probably be faster even still.
Phil