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Hi Guys,
i pointed out that if you have G4 you wont be able to bring it back to the original stand-so you will loose your warranty in any case if you update your G4 model with new ipl/spl cause so far i know there is no way to downgrade it again.You wont be able to install original Software until your device is CID locked and there is no solution for cid unlocking for G4 so far.

charliess said:
i pointed out that if you have G4 you wont be able to bring it back to the original stand-so you will loose your warranty in any case if you update your G4 model with new ipl/spl cause so far i know there is no way to downgrade it again.
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Why to upgrade IPL/SPL ???
charliess said:
You wont be able to install original Software until your device is CID locked and there is no solution for cid unlocking for G4 so far.
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There is no free CID unlock, it's different
And you be able to install original software but not able to install official Operating System from other country , really different.

you can flash any Rom you want without any CID unlocked, just you can't downgarde the SPL, so just remove the SPL from any rom, so you are the Newbie here, there was a lot of threads bout this, sorry
IPL SPL, the software that runs the hardware, it is like bios of the motherboard or firmware of any hardware, it is important to update them

paradis_pal said:
you can flash any Rom you want without any CID unlocked, just you can't downgarde the SPL, so just remove the SPL from any rom, so you are the Newbie here, there was a lot of threads bout this, sorry
IPL SPL, the software that runs the hardware, it is like bios of the motherboard or firmware of any hardware, it is important to update them
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ähm sorry...but in any case -then tell me please how to get back the warranty it is not possible or?if you update ipl/spl what happens normally just by updating your os with the files you can download from here-gullums etc. then there is no way back to install the original updates from o2.Sure you can CID unlock for money- who wants that?i want it for free but there is no solution.So i started this thread juust to warn noObs not to update cause there is no way back without paying.got it? also i flashed my phone without ipl/spl i ve never said it doesnt work but i guess doing that wont give back warranty cause they also check ipl and spl and see that the device has been upgraded with some other versions->warranty gone.So instead of telling me what to post and saying that im the "dumb" you should bring solutions or simply not comment this thread-cause nobody could helped me with my problem i got no answers,so now to answer this thread is anything but not useful-sry guys my opinion

please check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300356
if you missunderstand someting please ask me

paradis_pal said:
please check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300356
if you missunderstand someting please ask me
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thank you for this thread but i already know it,even it is possible to install the different os versions without CID lock by following steps in this thread you wont be able to use the updates provided on the O2 site and IPL / SPL is still different to the originial ones-i wanted to sell my phone i have 1 year warranty left but i guess it doenst matter-who would buy a prophet with warranty if O2 would say it as none,cause it has being modified and who would buy a prophet if you are not able to install original software without spending money for this or something like that.but thx for your help

online warranty, will check the SPL? is that what you mean?
you may wait for my solution to write SPL using pdocwrite,
IPL can be downgrade without any problem, only spl has the problem, and if you write the SPL using pdocwrite, and install all using nb2nbf it will be again your old phone

SPL has nothing to do with OS, if you just install os.nb and extention.nb, no one can check it online,
I think, you may download your o2 orginial rom, and extract the nb files, make new one without only SPL it will work and maybe the supports guys will not notice, it will be your phone again
untell I write how to write the SPL using pdocwrite, if you restore your old SPL even the HTC support can't notice you istalled other roms

I had 2 modified prophet back to warranty and they don't check the IPL/SPL stuff.... lol do you think they care about that ? And spend a tech to check dead devices for boot loaders ? no way
Maybe HTC do, but then they don't care anymore.
You just have to put your old rom back.... if you had back it up or are able to find a download that suits.
@paradis_pal: if I understood correctly, your solution will downgrade the IPL/SPL but with a higher version number to fake the protection, so it will still appear as modified

no, using pdocwrite will flash 2.20 again
and you misunderstood me, I was writing what charliess was thinking, I think no one will check the SPL as you wrote, if you read my first post in this thread you wouldn't misunderstood me

Can someone please explain about CID

I have unlock the sim on my Kaiser 8925
I have unlocked the cid
I have Flash a NoThrills V3
My question is do I have to do the CID unlocker each time I Flash a new rom
Thanks guys

to find this out, hold down the camera button while pushing in the stylus in the reset hole it should take you to a tricolor screen that should say olipof blah blah blah. if it says this, you dont. if it doesnt, i would

cheers mbarvian for the reply
so basically i am free to flash any 8925 rom cause it say SPL-1.0 OliPof
thank you

ron999 said:
cheers mbarvian for the reply
so basically i am free to flash any 8925 rom cause it say SPL-1.0 OliPof
thank you
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Absolutely.......

I think the Wiki covers this. You can find most answers there faster than typing them in most cases.

ron999 said:
cheers mbarvian for the reply
so basically i am free to flash any 8925 rom cause it say SPL-1.0 OliPof
thank you
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I would also do this to be on the safe side.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
Here are the files you need with instructions
http://www.4shared.com/file/46447471/7ae96b57/Jockyw2001_HardSPL_-_SuperCID.html
Just run the SuperCID steps. This will security unlock your device. After my device got stuck with what was deemed, "the radio from hell" I have become and advocate of this process.
Seems that HTC has been doing some funny things. Jockyw2001 has confirmed this
jockyw2001 said:
A new sort of "Radio from Hell" emerged for the Diamond. See here. It combats rom updating by preventing us from running a SSPL.
A clear advice to all is: always make sure you have HardSPL installed and your device is security unlocked before installing a new radio !!
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All new radio's might be this way as they only way to change them is to update them.

ERROR [294] : INVALID VENDER ID while trying to upgrade to WM6.1!!!

What's wrong? I've tried different update files but they don't work
Please help,
I think I already wrote this on a wrong place!

Just to be sure, do you have a Kaiser?
Do you have HardSPL installed?
Follow these steps for ROM upgrading: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
Just to be sure, do you have a Kaiser?
Do you have HardSPL installed?
Follow these steps for ROM upgrading: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Ta
Dave
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Thanks Dave,
In three color screen it says KSIS130 and then SPL_1.93.000, CPLD-8
In fact It's not a locked phone that belongs to any provider! How come I should Install another SPL?

mehrdadr said:
Thanks Dave,
In three color screen it says KSIS130 and then SPL_1.93.000, CPLD-8
In fact It's not a locked phone that belongs to any provider! How come I should Install another SPL?
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Had to ask about the Kaiser, had someone with a Treo trying to use Kaiser Hard SPL the other day
You need to Flash one of the hard SPLs before you can flash ROM's from another carrier. The Hard Spls have the CID (carrier ID) check removed which allows this.
Thanks
Dave

DaveShaw said:
Had to ask about the Kaiser, had someone with a Treo trying to use Kaiser Hard SPL the other day
You need to Flash one of the hard SPLs before you can flash ROM's from another carrier. The Hard Spls have the CID (carrier ID) check removed which allows this.
Thanks
Dave
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What I don't understand is that why my phone is locked? I first tried the HTC website update file, the some others from the links of XDA.
Sorry for stupid questions, I'm not really familiar with all these locking and bought my phone supposed to be without any lock! Could this be the agent of HTC desire?

mehrdadr said:
What I don't understand is that why my phone is locked? I first tried the HTC website update file, the some others from the links of XDA.
Sorry for stupid questions, I'm not really familiar with all these locking and bought my phone supposed to be without any lock! Could this be the agent of HTC desire?
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All phones come CID locked, even the HTC ones, it means you can only flash ROM's made by the same manufacturer as the phone.
Your phone will probably be SIM unlocked meaning you can use any SIM card you like, but to flash a ROM with a different CID isn't possible without Hard SPL.
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
All phones come CID locked, even the HTC ones, it means you can only flash ROM's made by the same manufacturer as the phone.
Your phone will probably be SIM unlocked meaning you can use any SIM card you like, but to flash a ROM with a different CID isn't possible without Hard SPL.
Ta
Dave
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So the one I downloaded from their website must work right?
Yes it's SIM unlocked and works with everything.
I'm still looking for a proper time so that I can start operation on my phone! the big surgery

mehrdadr said:
So the one I downloaded from their website must work right?
Yes it's SIM unlocked and works with everything.
I'm still looking for a proper time so that I can start operation on my phone! the big surgery
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Should do ...
Ta
Dave

Now confision,
It's just due to the low IQ I know
In fact I read different explanation for SPL and found that after I start with SSPL-KAIS.exe then I'll need to have the hard SPL.
What If I want one of the original ROMs from http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Do I need to extract the SPL from one of the original files on the mentioned link? If not Which hard SPL?
And then can I just run one of the WWE shipped .exe files or again the new ROM file must be extracted and being installed?
thanks

mehrdadr said:
It's just due to the low IQ I know
In fact I read different explanation for SPL and found that after I start with SSPL-KAIS.exe then I'll need to have the hard SPL.
What If I want one of the original ROMs from http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Do I need to extract the SPL from one of the original files on the mentioned link? If not Which hard SPL?
And then can I just run one of the WWE shipped .exe files or again the new ROM file must be extracted and being installed?
thanks
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Actually, you dont need to do HardSPL or CID unlock for ROM upgrading,.
Those thing are used to make a smoother ROM (remove white screen, freeze, etc),.
When i have my TyTN at the second day, i flash to WM.6, and all works well,.
Make sure that you have download Kaiser ROM,.
make sure you dont have any corrupted download,.
ps: until now, my TyTN never been CID Unlocked,.

Garmin said:
Actually, you dont need to do HardSPL or CID unlock for ROM upgrading,.
Those thing are used to make a smoother ROM (remove white screen, freeze, etc),.
When i have my TyTN at the second day, i flash to WM.6, and all works well,.
Make sure that you have download Kaiser ROM,.
make sure you dont have any corrupted download,.
ps: until now, my TyTN never been CID Unlocked,.
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No I'm even more and worse confused!!! I think Dave says that I need to Unlock the CID. However in some of the articles I think I read that to.
By the way none of the files I downloaded worked on my phone. Really I tried several, either from the HTC website or from XDA but same Invalid Vender ID comes to the PC displaye

mehrdadr said:
No I'm even more and worse confused!!! I think Dave says that I need to Unlock the CID. However in some of the articles I think I read that to.
By the way none of the files I downloaded worked on my phone. Really I tried several, either from the HTC website or from XDA but same Invalid Vender ID comes to the PC displaye
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Just flash one of the hard SPL 3.* by Jockyw2001 and all should be OK.
Ta
Dave.

Please help me RElock CID my Kaiser. I need to return this phone to Warrenty

Phone info in sig
Used KaiserUnlocker (NOT kaiser-supercid - OP claims it doesnt work with hardspl 3.28 nor 3.29).
I can only find a relocker for the superCID unlocker
Can anyone help me relock my CID since I used KaiserUnlocker?

Have you called cust care yet? If not, call and ask for your unlock code because you plan on taking an extended buisness trip to canadialand. Say your company is using Rogers up there and is providing you a phone, but you cannot imagine your life without your tilt.
Then warranty it.

not sure if u looked at the "reverting" thread for this request here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568

phantomy2g said:
not sure if u looked at the "reverting" thread for this request here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
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I don't see anything in that thread about reverting CID back to OEM..unless I missed it.

cbass said:
Have you called cust care yet? If not, call and ask for your unlock code because you plan on taking an extended buisness trip to canadialand. Say your company is using Rogers up there and is providing you a phone, but you cannot imagine your life without your tilt.
Then warranty it.
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i need not to unlock my phone. it is already unlocked. i need to lock it so i can return it.
but lets say i call cust care, can they give me my OEM CID code to relock? All i can remember is mine starting with 8 lol

richabi said:
i need not to unlock my phone. it is already unlocked. i need to lock it so i can return it.
but lets say i call cust care, can they give me my OEM CID code to relock? All i can remember is mine starting with 8 lol
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It shouldn't make any difference. ATT is not like Sprint in this matter I believe. They don't care. Just put the original stock ROM on ATT with the Original Radio and it should be ok. Make sure the software is exactly as it is when its NIB (new in box). No customs ROMs or the Super eMo radio.
Thats what I did when I returned mine and nothing happened.
Although I might have been lucky. But in my opinion nothing should happen.
Att is just anal about giving the unlock code.
They don't care if you return in unlocked.
Once again this is my opinion.. Do it at your own risk.

I was saying that you should get the unlock code from them and return the phone unlocked. That way they can't question your phone being unlocked.

I hope this helps
richabi said:
i need not to unlock my phone. it is already unlocked. i need to lock it so i can return it.
but lets say i call cust care, can they give me my OEM CID code to relock? All i can remember is mine starting with 8 lol
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I used the relocker just yesterday. I don't think it matters what you used to unlock it. Just flash a compatable SPL before starting. I too was using SPL 3.29 comex. The instructions were a little tedious.
First: follow the steps to lock only replace file Super CID with relocker.exe in step two. {you must do this before you remove Hard SPL by Olipro, because you have to have hard spl to start the unlocker} This relock your phone. Left to do is remove Hard SPL and flash the correct ROM
Second: flash your OEM SPL because you haven't removed hard SPL you shouldn't need jump spl
Third: Flash your OEM ROM
This should have your good to go. I did deviate from the recommended sequence in that I fould that when I followed the steps in the thread I'd already removed hard spl and it was needed to get relock/unlock to work. PM if you need assistance I will provide you with my IM user name. and we can have a live chat to get you through it.
Fourth: Re

wow
you guys are amazing. thank you all for your replies.
I called them for the unlock code and CID number and the lady said don't worry about it. just to return the phone unlocked and she will make a note on my account.
of course, my account doesnt claim that i called in before that and was issued an unlock code so i dont know how that is going to work. the lady sounded a bit perplexed about my request so i don't know if i should trust her lol
I don't think its a big deal if a phone is unlocked. i wouldn't think it would void warranty. some ppl NEED to travel internationally and they have issues with their AT&T branded phones every day, ya know?

Well let me set the record straight. It's not a big deal. I've RMA returned two Tilts now back to AT&T, the first one I still had an HTC based cooked ROM on it from here (Dutty's Dualtouch v4) and the second had Garmin 4.2, but I reinstalld the AT&T Tilt ROM. But I didn't relock it. Anyways they can't tell, they rewipe it from scratch so the evidence of if it's locked or unlocked goes bye bye. They'd have to try to flash a nonstandard ROM to know for sure. They aren't going to do that obviously

Hello everybody, excuse my poor english, i am french.
I just have installed a cooked rom i will try it for a few days but it's possible that i will want to return back to the original orange Rom. I have the 3.29 hard spl and superCID unlocked (000000000).
Can i just execute the installation of the original rom ? or have i to do something before ? (i have killed a C500 by doing this kind of operation)
Thx for your help and have a nice day.

McAlister said:
Hello everybody, excuse my poor english, i am french.
I just have installed a cooked rom i will try it for a few days but it's possible that i will want to return back to the original orange Rom. I have the 3.29 hard spl and superCID unlocked (000000000).
Can i just execute the installation of the original rom ? or have i to do something before ? (i have killed a C500 by doing this kind of operation)
Thx for your help and have a nice day.
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I've answered to your PM...

Yeah. I returned a Tilt with HardSPL installed and got a refurb back. The coolest part was that the refurb had a 1gb card in it with a bunch of rom flashing stuff on it. I was laughing.
It didn't have HardSPL installed, though. Wonder if someone bricked it.

lookin "1.x" or ''2.x'' SPL for the Herald

Im looking for "1.x" or ''2.x'' SPL for the Herald to flash my T-Mo. Wing.
I bought it second hand and I need to change the IMEI with the original.Because its changed before I bought.I don't know is it a legal IMEI.So I want to Repair the IMEI with the original one which writes under the battery.I have got some programs to repair IMEI but the programs runs with the 2.x SPL or down.
I'm using PDA with,
IPL 4.10.0002
SPL 4.70.Yang
can someone help me?
Thanks.

carpe_diem45 said:
Im looking for "1.x" or ''2.x'' SPL for the Herald to flash my T-Mo. Wing.
I bought it second hand and I need to change the IMEI with the original.Because its changed before I bought.I don't know is it a legal IMEI.So I want to Repair the IMEI with the original one which writes under the battery.I have got some programs to repair IMEI but the programs runs with the 2.x SPL or down.
I'm using PDA with,
IPL 4.10.0002
SPL 4.70.Yang
can someone help me?
Thanks.
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1. I already answered this question over PM.
2. The only SPL released for the Wing is 4.x.
3. The only other SPL'd released for the HERALD are 1.x and 5.x.
4. Search for the Herald wm5.0 RUU. This is 1.x.
5. You never answered as to whether you were sure that tool was compatible with the Herald.

And you do realize that changing the IMEI, whether the one you have already is illegal or not is MASSIVLY illiegal. If your cellular network finds out about it they can fine you handsomely, like amazingly handsomely. Just to let you know ahead of time.