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Noobie here so please not too much burning
I want to buy the 3.5mm to RCA TV out cord (cause I think we're in agreement that the Micro USB to HDMI is not going to happen?)
My questions is can I connect it to a monitor with Composite inputs? Will I be able to hear anything?
I want to stream my slingplayer to a TV for when I go tailgaiting and don't really feel like lugging around my LCD I have in my living room and don't want to buy a TV just for these purposes.
Any suggestions welcome.
Thanks!
I'm not familiar with that device, but as long as you can output video through the 3.5mm slot, a 3.5mm to rca cable will work fine. RCA is composite, so as long as your monitor has a yellow rca you will see video. For audio you would need red/white rca in.
I read somewhere that you have to switch the red and yellow ends of the cable because of the way the captivates 3.5 jack is wired. The video will come across the red end of the cable, the left audio on the yellow and the right audio remains on the white. My problem is, I have the 3.5 to RCA/AV cable but can't get any arrangement to work. I have tried both tv out settings on the phone and every possible color combination at the RCA end of the cable and all I get is a scrambled video and a buzzing hum that drowns out the audio. My 3.5 to RCA audio cable works flawless. Maybe I just have a bad AV cable. Anybody else have these issues or any advice?
Rooster* said:
I have tried both tv out settings on the phone and every possible color combination at the RCA end of the cable and all I get is a scrambled video
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I've got the same problem on my captivate (stock ROM) anyone can help us out? TV displays Dark Gray - Blackish things, but the thing is that at some part of it I can see my device's desaturated screen.. Any ideas what the problem is?
What kind of modification did google make to the largest Nexus S in bustbuy to have Video out? don't really matter if its video out or hdmi.
techcrunch.com/2010/12/23/giant-nexus-s/
could it be something like a displaylink plugged to it?
i remembered someone did something similar onto a nexus one by reversing the USB port to be a host instead of a slave.
sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
any ideas?
or maybe the nexus S does has a video out device.
qwerp_ said:
What kind of modification did google make to the largest Nexus S in bustbuy to have Video out? don't really matter if its video out or hdmi.
techcrunch.com/2010/12/23/giant-nexus-s/
could it be something like a displaylink plugged to it?
i remembered someone did something similar onto a nexus one by reversing the USB port to be a host instead of a slave.
sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
any ideas?
or maybe the nexus S does has a video out device.
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honestly i have no idea how he would even know its a real NS inside, it could be..you know not
It's probably an opened up phone with a splice from the board to the display.
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It's probably an opened up phone with a splice from the board to the display.
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true, maybe they did just open up a phone remove the screen and take the connections that would normally be used for a screen and hooked em up to the screen using google voodoo
how i hope there is some sort of external hardware to do video out.
i remember reading it somewhere that SGS can do video out via the 3.5mm jack, but not the NS.
www.intomobile.com/2010/07/02/samsung-galaxy-s-video-out-through-3-5mm-headphone-jack-um-yes/
or maybe like streaming straight onto your telly via DLNA. that will be awesome.
I would be interested in this as well, but sadly the SGS and NS are not 100% identical inside.
I used a 3.5mm jack output with a white and yellow connector thingy on the end, sorry for being so technical lol but only the sound played out through the tv no video using the youtube app.
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that would make sense because it is you know, a headphone jack
I think his idea, was that on the SGS that wsa the video out port as well.
using the special nokia 3.5 video out cable
i have the cable, but i don't have an old TV / VCR to test it with.... all my TVs, Monitors, Projectors, Video Players, etc, are all HDMI or DVI or VGA inputs
LOL
it's so hard to find an old RCA inputs now in days
AllGamer said:
I think his idea, was that on the SGS that wsa the video out port as well.
using the special nokia 3.5 video out cable
i have the cable, but i don't have an old TV / VCR to test it with.... all my TVs, Monitors, Projectors, Video Players, etc, are all HDMI or DVI or VGA inputs
LOL
it's so hard to find an old RCA inputs now in days
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RCA stands for really crappy appliance
Since my cable tv got cut, and having no tv/vga out adaptor for my laptop (watching videos while working/browsing/play games is impossible), I decided to go for the TV out on the SK4G. Instead of the vague answers I've seen on here, I found the scientific truth.
Background
Basically, the SK4G has a 4 pin trrs socket that is used for headphones, wired controls, and tv out. While some people have issues using regular headphones (3 pin trs) due to the ground touching the 4th pin (a floating ground can trigger some actions), I have not, and due to the design, they shouldn't.
TRRS stands for Tip-Ring-Ring-Sleeve, as seen on the plug. On TRS, regular stero audio cables, it is Left audio, Right Audio, Common Ground (Mono audio connectors have TS plugs, with Left Audio and Common Ground, backwards compatible with stereo connectors).
RCA connectors on the other hand, are simpler. The prong in the middle carries the signal while the sleeve is ground.
Most TVs still have standard RCA connectors for composite video and left/right audio, and nearly 100% of them have standardized coloring of White (Left Audio), Red (Right Audio), and Yellow (Component Video)
The TRRS connector can be any combination of connections depending on the manufacturer, so not all AV cables are the same. One of the cables I have had TRRS of Right Audio (Red), Video (Yellow), Left Audio (White), and Common Ground.
Most Important part
The SK4G on the other hand, has a TRRS combination of Left, Right, Ground, Video.
What is most important is the position of Ground, on both sides of the cable. If this is in the wrong place, nothing will really work, but if it is, that's great, you can just switch around the rest. Any cable you get must have the TRRS connector with Ground as the 3rd from the top, and that must connect to the common ground sleeves on all three RCA connectors.
Some of the dollar stores around me have a generic brand cable, with a 90ยบ, right angle connector, but it has ground on the 4th TRRS connector, so it's no good.
On the other hand, some have the right cable, with the Red and Yellow switched around. Specifically, it is another generic brand (Sonitek), but geared towards computer cables and adaptors. This one is ""ipod compatible"" (cost me 2.49, has an extra long connector so it sticks out a bit, just make sure it clicks in.). Just make sure you plug in the Red cable to the Yellow/Video connector on your TV. There are other brands with the right cables too. Radioshack's standard av cable is right. The cable that came with my Canon camera released in 2005 as well.
Note: You might need to have no audio playing, and plug the tv side in first, otherwise it might not work.
SideNote: The LCD on the SK4G won't turn off while using the TV out for video, so use your power cable if you want it to last. You can still lock your phone so no video will be shown, but the connection is still on.
And I am on stock (but Rooted and Deodexed) KJ2. Now all I have to do is download a dlna app so I can stream videos to it, as connecting it to upload video is a pity. It does play flv video though with the stock media player.
It's worth noting that the resulting video from the composite output is pretty rough. Grainy, fuzzy, and the image doesn't fill the whole screen. But it's handy for playing nintendo emulators on a TV and stuff.
In Portrait mode, it takes the full height, but only about 20% of the length. In landscape mode it takes the full length, but about 90% of the screen. Granted, it is just composite video, not even s-video, so resolution won't be the best ever, but it's Good enough. If I wanted high res, I'd go waste money on a better phone
Update, yep, tested it out. As long as you leave the 3.5mm cable plugged in and tv out enabled, the display will not turn off. It does dim, but does not shut off. It will waste your battery if unattended/unplugged. You can make the screen turn off by pressing the power button as normal, and that will be mirrored on the tv (blank screen).
Wow, cool. I always wondered what that TV out setting was for. I've seen some cables that have microUSB-to-HDMI which would be awesome, but I never thought it would work (and it doesn't, right?).
FYI: The 4-pin TRRS is also used for GND, AudL, AudR and Mic when you plug in a wired headset. Cool to know it doubles as GND, AudL, AudR, Vid.
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Wow, cool. I always wondered what that TV out setting was for. I've seen some cables that have microUSB-to-HDMI which would be awesome, but I never thought it would work (and it doesn't, right?).
FYI: The 4-pin TRRS is also used for GND, AudL, AudR and Mic when you plug in a wired headset. Cool to know it doubles as GND, AudL, AudR, Vid.
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Not only that, but the phone can tell the difference. Tried an FM radio app, that needs a headset plugged it, but had my tv cable plugged it, and it told me that. It knew which cable was plugged in.
And yes, no usb video out. No MHL or anything. Just composite video over the headphone jack.
I had recently read an article on here (unfortunately I can't find it again) about a certain phone having the ability to display video through a 3.5mm to composite cable. I tried this last night with my blaze and not surprisingly it didn't work. BUT... I switched the rca ends around on the tv because I remembered that using a 3.5mm to composite on an 5th ipod video required I think the white end to be plugged into the yellow port on the tv. So I was changing which cable was plugged into the yellow port and every time I would plug/unplug the red end to/from the yellow port on the tv, the video that I had playing would pause.
I was just wondering if this reveals anything at all, possibly something that could lead to video out through the 3.5mm jack?
liquidstate said:
I had recently read an article on here (unfortunately I can't find it again) about a certain phone having the ability to display video through a 3.5mm to composite cable. I tried this last night with my blaze and not surprisingly it didn't work. BUT... I switched the rca ends around on the tv because I remembered that using a 3.5mm to composite on an 5th ipod video required I think the white end to be plugged into the yellow port on the tv. So I was changing which cable was plugged into the yellow port and every time I would plug/unplug the red end to/from the yellow port on the tv, the video that I had playing would pause.
I was just wondering if this reveals anything at all, possibly something that could lead to video out through the 3.5mm jack?
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I believe there is only audio output to the 3.5mm jack so what is happening when u put that rca in there is its making contact with the audio circuit and just as if u put headphones in and take them out itll pause or music the same with the movie since its only audio to the jack
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johnb380 said:
I believe there is only audio output to the 3.5mm jack so what is happening when u put that rca in there is its making contact with the audio circuit and just as if u put headphones in and take them out itll pause or music the same with the movie since its only audio to the jack
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What you're saying does make sense, I just wonder why it only pauses when I plug in the red end into the yellow port. It doesn't happen with any other configuration. I guess I was a little too hopeful :/. This phone would be perfect if it had video out capabilities.
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What you're saying does make sense, I just wonder why it only pauses when I plug in the red end into the yellow port. It doesn't happen with any other configuration. I guess I was a little too hopeful :/. This phone would be perfect if it had video out capabilities.
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I wish it did too but I'm getting a Note 2 or S3 or Nexus 4 whichever I can get the best deal on next month when taxes come in...and they all have video out then I'll b able to do what I want
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Does anyone know if the s5 has video out on the braphone jack like old galaxy s devices?
I need a solution to get composite audio and video to a projector. Projector has DVI / svideo / composite/ VGA.
Any ideas? I have seen mhl to hdmi which are cheap but then I would have to convert to dvi and loose audio and run a separate cable.
No but there is MHL to VGA adapters you can buy from eBay etc.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400785524940
But that's audio only.
I found thus that might do the trick and doesn't need any external power.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=251649511743&alt=web
Oh actually just looked again and there's an audio out socket on the aide of the VGA.
A7mag3ddon said:
I found thus that might do the trick and doesn't need any external power.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=251649511743&alt=web
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Says in the description you get video but you can't get audio out of that using S3/4/5 etc. Probably because of the newer MHL standard.
Perhaps they mean on the older phones? The description says AV cable. The A standing for audio and V standing for video. If it doesn't do audio then the item is not as described. I have just queried this with him. You can't have a title saying AV then in the last line if the small print say doesn't support audio.
Does that mean that the mhl to HDMI doesn't carry audio either?
A7mag3ddon said:
Perhaps they mean on the older phones? The description says AV cable. The A standing for audio and V standing for video. If it doesn't do audio then the item is not as described. I have just queried this with him. You can't have a title saying AV then in the last line if the small print say doesn't support audio.
Does that mean that the mhl to HDMI doesn't carry audio either?
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It means it works with audio and video on older devices using the original MHL, but S3/4/5 etc use MHL2.0 with different pinout and that's why you need an adapter, but maybe something about that RCA cable can't use the audio for whatever reason.
But as long as you use that little adapter you can use any MHL to HDMI with audio.
Just checked my MHL version is 2.1 hopefully they will clear it up. If that is the case can't I just use audio out the headphone jack and video from the mhl phonos? Pain in th ass from a wiring point if view but should still work.
A7mag3ddon said:
Just checked my MHL version is 2.1 hopefully they will clear it up. If that is the case can't I just use audio out the headphone jack and video from the mhl phonos? Pain in th ass from a wiring point if view but should still work.
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Yeah that'll work but audio quality won't be as good, but I guess it's the only way unless you buy a HDMI to RCA converter, but that means plugging 2 separate adapters into the phone and even more hassle.
Yeah plus I already bought that cable haha.
Your right its a massive hassle, I just gave away my iphone as well which was dead easy to connect via RCA, add that to my unable to swap extSD with inSD on kitkat problem and im starting to wish i hadnt bothered with the S5 now.
just bought Monoprice mhl vga converter which is supposed to be 100% compatible but can't connect... nothing happens,.. no sound, no error, just nothing. installed the Rom with stock kernel (thought that might be an issue (since I was running on Twi5ted Lollipop Rom with a custom kernel... same result, while my wife on her htc one m7 running a custom ROM too had no problem... just connect and enjoy... i'm at a loss... anyone here got an advice? thanx.
Galaxy S5 G900F... stock kernel.
I got an MHL converter in the end as well and it works great, you need to plug your charge cable into it as well at the same time to get it to work.